Re: Brin: The Future of the World Re: brin: war

2002-10-24 Thread Doug
Ray Ludenia wrote: Last poll* I heard here in Aus had 53% against and 39% for. Surprisingly little change in numbers after the Bali massacre. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/06/opinion/polls/main524496.shtml CBS News poll: More people now than just two weeks ago favor giving the

Re: test

2002-10-24 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 07:26 PM 10/21/2002 -0500, you wrote: Kevin Tarr wrote: test Feeling testy, are we? ;) Julia Very. Verizon is switching to secure mail. Oh, we don't support Outlook 97, you need Outlook 98. Well I don't want to buy Outlook 98.Your changes are

And you say my puns are bad.

2002-10-24 Thread Medievalbk
The duenna bots, or security robots, were so named by our good Dr. Brin because, obviously, they can be programmed to due enna thing you want them to do. William Taylor Though the Nish are gregarious among individuals of other races, something odd happens when a Nish is

Re: The future of the world

2002-10-24 Thread
Traditionally, the intra-national and international domains have been very neatly separated. The former gives rise to sovereign states which have the monopoly of power, and there is some kind of consensus that, everything else remaining equal, democracy and rule of law inside a country (nation

scouted: anti-science

2002-10-24 Thread The Fool
Right-wingers with an anti-science agenda: http://www.junkscience.com perports to debunk the 'junk' science behind global warming, DDT's, pollution, and pretty much every other religious right agenda item. ___

Re: The UN

2002-10-24 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Doug wrote: (...) That is to say, by that rule, England should have done nothing while Hitler took over Austria, Czechoslovakia, and Poland. Note here that the UN _did_ vote to act against Iraq when they invaded Kuwait, a situation analogous to Germany's invasion of

Re: World government in 50 years

2002-10-24 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Doug wrote: It's highly unlikely that there will be a dominant WG, but that doesn't mean that there could not be some sort of loose federation that represents most nations and has some method of collecting revenue, electing officials, policing, etc. When the World g*vernment

old-timers disease

2002-10-24 Thread The Fool
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/10/021024064926.htm Mild Injury May Render Brain Cells Vulnerable To Immune System Attack DURHAM, N.C. -- Duke University Medical Center researchers have discovered that a seemingly mild insult to the brain could sensitize neurons to attack by immune

Re: The UN

2002-10-24 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:03 AM Subject: Re: The UN Dan Minette wrote: Where in the UN charter does it say that a country must gain permission before defending itself? Your suggestion, that a

Re: Sniper

2002-10-24 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 11:27:05AM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: I *could* e-mail the article to interested parties. But ask soon, or wait awhile, because I'm about to head out the door. Oh, I can still read articles easily when you post a URL like you did. I was just venting that my automatic

Re: Sniper

2002-10-24 Thread The Fool
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 11:16:30AM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Good article at the Washington Post website, but they ask you demographic info to get to it: I used to read the Washington Post a lot more, but since they implemented that demographic

Re: Sniper

2002-10-24 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 11:16:30AM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote: Good article at the Washington Post website, but they ask you demographic info to get to it: I used to read the Washington Post a lot more, but since they

Re: Sniper

2002-10-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Horn, John wrote: Well, it looks like they caught the snipers. (see any of the major news sites for the story). Good article at the Washington Post website, but they ask you demographic info to get to it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4422-2002Oct23.html I'm hoping that if

Fwd: CNN Breaking News

2002-10-24 Thread Ronn Blankenship
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:46:03 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rifle, scope and tripod found in sniper suspects' car, Washington, D.C. radio station WTOP reports. (c)2002. Cable News Network, LP, LLLP. An AOL Time Warner Company. All Rights Reserved.

Fwd: CNN Breaking News on DC Sniper

2002-10-24 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 04:09 AM 10/24/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Police in Maryland say they have arrested John Allen Muhammad, who sniper-case investigators say may have information about the case. Muhammad's stepson also in custody. At 07:03 AM 10/24/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Sources tell CNN two

Re: test

2002-10-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, if you are using a library computer, ain't your hour up yet? Well, I went to read a magazine for 15 min, then got on another one (wouldn't have if there were folks waiting, but there are 5 'empties' right now). :) You do not live in Tucson

Calf Utilities

2002-10-24 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 11:41 PM Subject: Re: N. Korea Says Has Nukes Dan Minette wrote: It wasn't the worst of any worlds for the providers that came away with billions in profits. It was definitely

Re: Sniper

2002-10-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Horn, John wrote: Well, it looks like they caught the snipers. (see any of the major news sites for the story). Thank goodness! My default local news site is kvue.com (good weather site for Austin) and I found a story there at http://www.kvue.com/breaking/1024kvuealabama-jw.ecbc2728.html

RE: Italian author slams Islam's 'hate' for West

2002-10-24 Thread Jean-Louis Couturier
De : Joe Hale [mailto:halejr;bellsouth.net] This author makes a good point. People who claim Islam is a religion of peace are turning a blind eye to history. If Islam was a religion of peace there would never have been a Battle of Tours. The Moslems are currently fighting the Christians,

Re: Getting silly

2002-10-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Ronn Blankenship wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Julia Thompson wrote: snort :) Julia who knows why her legs are still sore, but isn't sure why her biceps are as sore as they are Well, I know why _I_ ache all over (Calypso, a bratty 4-year-old Paint, was

Re: Getting silly Re: war

2002-10-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Sonja wrote: snip I only have a good cure for a really bad cold. It involves a hot tub or a hot shower followed by two or three mugs of strong steaming hot black tea mixed with honey, lemon and a dash of rum (trust me this sounds better then it tastes) just before going to bed... Mom

Re: The UN

2002-10-24 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:17:21PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: the Security Council does whatever these five agree upon. Yes, 5 of the 10 temporary members have to concur, but it is likely to happen if these 5 agree. 4, I believe. -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: test

2002-10-24 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/24/2002 1:50:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yea, verily yea. with a nod to Danny Kaye :) ---Pull up your chainmaille! I do not live in desert heat. Denver weather's quite a treat. Fox trots past the library, 'puters wait for thee and

Re: Call the UNSC's Bluff

2002-10-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 08:21 23-10-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: The Franco-Russian obstructionism cannot be understood as a response to the Bush administration's hawkishness on Iraq, its doctrine of preemption or its drift toward unilateralism. Paris and Moscow have been championing the cause of Saddam Hussein

RE: a chipping we will go

2002-10-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Jean-Louis Couturier wrote: [Sonja wrote] Imagine You go into the store, pick a few items, walk out of the store, the tags are automatically scanned without you ever having been in line at a check out. You are scanned as well, your data on the implant are transferred, and the

Re: What's Wrong Here? Re: The Future of the World Re: br*n: war

2002-10-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 09:46 23-10-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: You mean it is completely amazing to hope that Democracy and Free Markets might triumph over Totalitarianism, Autoritarianism, Repression, and Fanatacism?? This is an opinion that I am to be ridiculed for? What's going on here? You

The UN and Democracies

2002-10-24 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:30 PM Subject: Re: The UN First of all, I do not know how may of the 191 UN member countries are dictatorships, so I cannot say whether or not they would comprise a

Re: The UN

2002-10-24 Thread Steve Sloan II
J. van Baardwijk wrote: Considering the fact that your country kept its representative government only because the US was willing to put NY and Washington on the line to protect it, Huh? That requires some explanation. During the Cold War, the US promised to defend western Europe as if

Re: Call the UNSC's Bluff

2002-10-24 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:59 PM Subject: Re: Call the UNSC's Bluff At 08:21 23-10-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: The Franco-Russian obstructionism cannot be understood as a response to the

Re: The UN

2002-10-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:19 23-10-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: A country's self-defense is an internal matter, not an UN matter. However, invading an other country is an act of aggression, not self-defense. So, all wars of self defense must stop at the border? It is wrong to defeat a country that attacks?

Re: Shooting Gallery

2002-10-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:00 23-10-2002 -0500, Steve Sloan wrote: Why? I see nothing in that scenario that even remotely suggests that trial by jury is required. For both trials (one for the Virginian civilian, one for the caught suspect of the sniper shootings, you only need a prosecutor, a lawyer to defend

RE: test

2002-10-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 18:42 23-10-2002 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: We're testing manual dinging. Would you mind using someone else's posts for that, please? Thank you. I get the impression that there is something wrong with either Nick's server or with his Internet connection. I have noticed in the last two

Re: Question for everyone

2002-10-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:19 23-10-2002 -0700, Matt Grimaldi wrote: The way it was phrased left that impression in my mind, and suggested a series of thoughts which were, oh, let's say unflattering, that the rest of the list should feel guilty for not doing exactly what you thought they should, and so on, it gets

Re: The UN

2002-10-24 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Jeroen wrote: At 15:19 23-10-2002 -0500, Dan Minette wrote: So, your argument is that England could only respond to Hitler _after_ English soil is attacked? These are different matters, Dan. Hitler did attack Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland. Iraq however has not attacked the US. In

Re: old-timers disease

2002-10-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- The Fool wrote: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/10/021024064926.htm Mild Injury May Render Brain Cells Vulnerable To Immune System Attack DURHAM, N.C. -- Duke University Medical Center researchers have discovered that a seemingly mild insult to the brain could sensitize

Re: What's Wrong Here? Re: The Future of the World Re: br*n: war

2002-10-24 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jeroen wrote: What's going on here? You misinterpreting what DB was saying -- that is what is going on here. I must confess that somehow I am also misinterpreting His ideas about Iraq. I would formulate a question, but I was stopped by a holyday exausting trip, His recent absence, and my

Re: test

2002-10-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If I ever get my act together and have a car with both a heater and AC, the Denver area is supposed to be great for library book sales. Yes, the public library has a big book sale once a year; one of my friends found a book that she'd been seeking

RE: test

2002-10-24 Thread Nick Arnett
To do real-world tests of dinging, someone has to ding (the dinger) someone else (the dingee). The dinger's messages slow down somewhat, the dingee's messages slow down more. Then we see what happens to the discussion. At the moment, I'm really only look at the effects on the dingee, since one

Re: test

2002-10-24 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 10/24/2002 6:42:16 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I rarely need either heat or AC while driving - but of course, when either is required, it's _parching_ or _below freezing_. Debbi You ain't old and worn out before your time. I have about

Re: Question for everyone

2002-10-24 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Question for everyone At 16:19 23-10-2002 -0700, Matt Grimaldi wrote: The way it was phrased left that impression in my mind, and suggested a

Baseball Re: test

2002-10-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote: And may I add, Go Giants. I haven't been much of a baseball fan since leaving Pittsburgh a couple of decades ago, but this World Series, with its strangely afflicted pitchers, has been sort of fun. I'd normally be rooting for Anaheim (AL snobbishness), but after watching

Re: test

2002-10-24 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:32 PM Subject: RE: test At 18:42 23-10-2002 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: We're testing manual dinging. Would you mind using someone else's posts for that, please?

Re: Call the UNSC's Bluff

2002-10-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
From a posted article; just a couple of nitpicks that I have - Debbi, who snipped a lot Let the U.N. Vote Wednesday, October 23, 2002; Page A26 Washington Post Editorial NEARLY SIX weeks have passed since President Bush challenged the United Nations to act to enforce its resolutions

Snide remark Re: Call the UNSC's Bluff

2002-10-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Deborah Harrell wrote: From a posted article; just a couple of nitpicks that I have - Debbi, who snipped a lot I've snipped even more, and am merely making a snide remark below. Let the U.N. Vote Wednesday, October 23, 2002; Page A26 Washington Post Editorial ...What explains

Re: test

2002-10-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippage Is your cat declawed? ??? Neither cat is declawed - I must say that I find that an offensive practice, like cropping dogs' ears for 'fashion.' Kia would be dead if he didn't have weapons, as one day last month I heard him _screaming_ and ran outside to

Re: test

2002-10-24 Thread Kevin Tarr
snip If I ever get my act together and have a car with both a heater and AC, the Denver area is supposed to be great for library book sales. I rarely need either heat or AC while driving - but of course, when either is required, it's _parching_ or _below freezing_. Debbi Funny, my AC

Re: Snide remark Re: Call the UNSC's Bluff

2002-10-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson wrote: I've snipped even more, and am merely making a snide remark below. snip [I wrote] chokes on a salted snack food, and thumps sternum vigorously Repeat the raised eyebrows sentences here, without excusing anyone's poor (or should I say incredibly, stupidly,

Re: Call the UNSC's Bluff

2002-10-24 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip We're off to free Iraqees...[no idea if this is correct.] If we only get Saddam. Somewhere, throughout this chaos, freedom lies. We represent the liberal press, the liberal press... William Taylor -- I have no idea

Re: brin: war

2002-10-24 Thread The Fool
From: His Brinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] John, you are too close to the problem. Step back. Again I ask, do you envision Planet Earth still being divided into completely separate sovereign nations with capricious right-of-war and subject to no overall legal authority, say, 1,000 years from

mobile phones

2002-10-24 Thread The Fool
LONDON (Reuters) - Italian scientists have raised new health concerns about the safety of using mobile phones, with research showing radio waves from the handsets makes cancerous cells grow more aggressively. When Fiorenzo Marinelli and his colleagues at the National Research Council in Bologna

Sea lion

2002-10-24 Thread The Fool
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns2960 Sea lion scores top for memory 19:00 23 October 02 Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition California

Re: The UN

2002-10-24 Thread Doug
Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:17:21PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: the Security Council does whatever these five agree upon. Yes, 5 of the 10 temporary members have to concur, but it is likely to happen if these 5 agree. 4, I believe. 5: U.S., U.K., France, Russia, China

Re: test

2002-10-24 Thread Doug
Kevin Tarr wrote: Funny, my AC failed last year right in the middle of summer, then again this year. It was a hot day, the AC was working. I drove for two hours straight, saw a rock concert (metal woo-hoo!), AC/DC? Doug 8^) ___

Re: The UN

2002-10-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Doug wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:17:21PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: the Security Council does whatever these five agree upon. Yes, 5 of the 10 temporary members have to concur, but it is likely to happen if these 5 agree. 4, I believe. 5: U.S., U.K.,

Re: The UN

2002-10-24 Thread Doug
Julia Thompson wrote: Doug wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:17:21PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: the Security Council does whatever these five agree upon. Yes, 5 of the 10 temporary members have to concur, but it is likely to happen if these 5 agree. 4, I believe. 5:

Re: The UN

2002-10-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Doug wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: Doug wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:17:21PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: the Security Council does whatever these five agree upon. Yes, 5 of the 10 temporary members have to concur, but it is likely to happen if these 5 agree.