--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And that's because the policy of the rest of the world was to
support the reign of terror of Saddam Hussein ad infinitum
Only if you share Bush's Manichean world-view. I don't. But we have
covered this ground earlier, before the
I'm part of a group called Gold Star Families Speak Out. All of us lost
relatives in Iraq or Afghanistan. We support each other, speak at public
events and such. We are opposed to the war in Iraq and have called for our
troops to be brought home.
Two of our members are being forced to
On 11/26/06, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If need be, I can make a general case that our decision making process is
better informed when we do study pact actions and results in such a manner
than when we don't. Indeed, arguing against such a case would reject a
great deal of how we
On 11/27/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The proposition was made here that the US is responsible for all the
deaths currently occuring in Iraq.
Cite, please.
I don't recall anybody making any such argument.
Nick
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--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And that's
JDG wrote:
Ritu, it seems that you, Nick, and even Dan missed the point here.
The proposition was made here that the US is responsible for all the
deaths currently occurring in Iraq. While this was a reasonable
proposition when the deaths in Iraq were occurring largely as a result of
US
On 27 Nov 2006 at 8:45, Doug wrote:
The sectarian violence now occurring in Iraq was sparked when the
Al-Askari Mosque (the Golden Mosque) was destroyed last February by
Al Qaida. Why did Al Qaida do it? To prolong the violence in Iraq.
Why did they want to prolong the violence? Because of
Andrew wrote:
I wrote:
The sectarian violence now occurring in Iraq was sparked when the
Al-Askari Mosque (the Golden Mosque) was destroyed last February by
Al Qaida. Why did Al Qaida do it? To prolong the violence in Iraq.
Why did they want to prolong the violence? Because of the
maru dubshinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/22/06, Deborah Harrell wrote:
maru dubshinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/20/06, Deborah Harrell wrote:
snippage
...Also found: _Consider Philebas_ (?sp?)...
I wonder if Consider Philebas is where Banks got
his Consider Phlebas
Deborah wrote:
Oh dear, yet _more_ literary background required
before I can read Banks? Not having read any of the
'Culture' story yet, your quote certainly seems a
likely reference. sigh I shall have to get
cracking, it appears...
No, no, no, just read the book. It's a great read, my
Doug wrote:
Deborah wrote:
Oh dear, yet _more_ literary background required before I can read
Banks? Not having read any of the 'Culture' story yet, your quote
certainly seems a likely reference. sigh I shall have to get
cracking, it appears...
No, no, no, just read the book. It's a
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doug wrote:
Deborah wrote:
Oh dear, yet _more_ literary background required
before I can read
Banks? Not having read any of the 'Culture'
story yet, your quote
certainly seems a likely reference. sigh I
shall have to get cracking, it
Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm part of a group called Gold Star Families Speak
Out. All of us lost
relatives in Iraq or Afghanistan.snip
Two of our members are being forced to withdraw from
the group by their employers. snip
This seems utterly wrong to me. Since when
Apparently, you call Iran:
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20061127/D8LLLIEO1.html
Don't really know what to make of it all at this point.
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Deborah Harrell wrote:
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doug wrote:
Deborah wrote:
Oh dear, yet _more_ literary background required
before I can read
Banks? Not having read any of the 'Culture'
story yet, your quote
certainly seems a likely reference. sigh I
shall have to get
Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snippage
(And let me add - wow, on your summary.)
My take is that the radical fringe of Islam is a
sort of cargo cult.
This made me think of J. Diamond's New Guinean frind's
question, wich relates to this:
This is seen most clearly in the case of the
At 08:56 AM Monday 11/27/2006, Nick Arnett wrote:
I'm part of a group called Gold Star Families Speak Out. All of us lost
relatives in Iraq or Afghanistan. We support each other, speak at public
events and such. We are opposed to the war in Iraq and have called for our
troops to be brought
At 08:58 AM Monday 11/27/2006, Nick Arnett wrote:
I'm quite sure that's not needed, since it is common sense that one can
prophet from the past.
Aargh.
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At 04:31 PM Monday 11/27/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doug wrote:
Deborah wrote:
Oh dear, yet _more_ literary background required
before I can read
Banks? Not having read any of the 'Culture'
story yet, your quote
certainly
On 27 Nov 2006 at 6:56, Nick Arnett wrote:
This seems utterly wrong to me. Since when is membership in a peaceful
organization -- we have never done or said anything even remotely unlawful
-- a legitimate reason for denying employment or security clearances?
You can be denied a security
On 27 Nov 2006 at 12:42, Doug wrote:
Andrew wrote:
I wrote:
The sectarian violence now occurring in Iraq was sparked when the
Al-Askari Mosque (the Golden Mosque) was destroyed last February by
Al Qaida. Why did Al Qaida do it? To prolong the violence in Iraq.
Why did they want to
On 27 Nov 2006 at 6:56, Nick Arnett wrote:
This seems utterly wrong to me. Since when is membership in a peaceful
organization -- we have never done or said anything even remotely unlawful
-- a legitimate reason for denying employment or security clearances?
You can be denied a security
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, either your
proposing tripling the price of oil in this country, or you are
proposing a policy with about as much near-term relevance for energy
independence as drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
I remember
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's no question that we are walking
right up to the line, and a decently strong case that we are
crossing
that line, but I'm not sure that any previous generation has
hestitated
to walk right up to the line and
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
but I'd be curious
to see the methodology first. It probably was just an ill-designed
survey
Well, I'll give you what information I have and you can see if you can
hunt down the methodology. This is what the articles say:
The
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Similarly, I find the notion of bombing a people into democracy and
gratitude stupid. And I really honestly do not believe that Bush's
failure of imagination and my recognition of the same makes me
responsible for Saddam's crimes, or
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The world was with you on Afghanistan. You should have finished the
job properly.
Sorry, Charlie, but the world was *not* with us on Afghanistan.Oh
sure, they were there in word - but the world was painfully short of the
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The proposition was made here that the US is responsible for all the
deaths currently occuring in Iraq.
Cite, please.
I don't recall anybody making any such argument.
Nick
Ok
11/22 at 12:37am according to Yahoo!
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Andrew wrote:
Huh? No, again, you're somehow focusing on AQ hates Americans in
Iraw. They PLAIN HATE AMERICANS. They're prolonging the violence
by attacking Americans because it hurts American interests and
Americans. Iraq happens to be the current best place for them to do
that.
Why do
On 28/11/2006, at 2:52 PM, jdiebremse wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The world was with you on Afghanistan. You should have finished the
job properly.
Sorry, Charlie, but the world was *not* with us on Afghanistan.Oh
sure, they were there in
Charlie said:
Much of the world simply isn't able to provide soldiers as most 1st
world countries have been cutting back to basically a defence
force, and there have been enough friendly fire incidents in
joint task forces in the past to make military forces wary of
combining troops. And
On 28/11/2006, at 6:29 PM, Richard Baker wrote:
Charlie said:
Much of the world simply isn't able to provide soldiers as most
1st world countries have been cutting back to basically a defence
force, and there have been enough friendly fire incidents in
joint task forces in the past to
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