Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 12 Nov 2008 at 19:08, Nick Arnett wrote:
Anybody here a Second Life participant? I'm talking to them about perhaps
joining the company... but I'm barely familiar with it as a user. Any
suggestions about things to try, etc. I'm most interested in metrics and
such,
On 15/11/2008, at 10:56 PM, Claes Wallin wrote:
Is there another virtual-world community with similar features that
you
would recommend as an alternative? I'm genuinely interested to know.
The pub?
Charlie
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Honestly, I should have known better.
LOL!
By the way, I noticed that some of your posts do not begin with
honestly. Is that a clue?
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Ronn! Blankenship
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you think there should be any minimum legal age for people to make
that decision and take those actions, as frex there is with alcohol or
tobacco?
Those minimum ages always struck me as rather arbitrary. I'd think
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I have pointed out, the only substantive difference between
viewpoints on this List is the degree to which we view goverment
control as acceptable.
Which is a euphemism for whether it is right to force one's will on
Charlie Bell wrote:
On 15/11/2008, at 10:56 PM, Claes Wallin wrote:
Is there another virtual-world community with similar features that
you
would recommend as an alternative? I'm genuinely interested to know.
The pub?
+1 funny, +1 insightful.
The pub does offer some of the benefits of
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, John Williams wrote:
Your two previous links did not give an example of how Bush
deregulated anything that may have lead to the subprime mortgage
crisis. The youtube video you listed does not give any examples of
deregulation either. I don't think that word means what
On 15 Nov 2008 at 12:56, Claes Wallin wrote:
Is there another virtual-world community with similar features that you
would recommend as an alternative? I'm genuinely interested to know.
It's still in beta, currently more limited and with a somewhat
different focus, but Metaplace, Raph
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:21 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I would have liked to see an example of Bush's deregulation.
Unfortunately, Bush was largely responsible for increasing government
spending and government interference. I forgot where I heard it, but
the joke is that Bush
At 07:39 AM Saturday 11/15/2008, Charlie Bell wrote:
On 15/11/2008, at 10:56 PM, Claes Wallin wrote:
Is there another virtual-world community with similar features that
you
would recommend as an alternative? I'm genuinely interested to know.
The pub?
Charlie
reaches for paper towel to
At 08:22 AM Saturday 11/15/2008, John Williams wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Honestly, I should have known better.
LOL!
By the way, I noticed that some of your posts do not begin with
honestly. Is that a clue?
Honestly?
. . . ronn! :)
At 08:27 AM Saturday 11/15/2008, John Williams wrote:
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Ronn! Blankenship
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you think there should be any minimum legal age for people to make
that decision and take those actions, as frex there is with
alcohol or tobacco?
Those
At 07:57 AM Saturday 11/15/2008, Claes Wallin wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
On 15/11/2008, at 10:56 PM, Claes Wallin wrote:
Is there another virtual-world community with similar features that
you
would recommend as an alternative? I'm genuinely interested to know.
The pub?
+1 funny, +1
At 10:51 AM Saturday 11/15/2008, Nick Arnett wrote:
Only the
hardest-hearted would argue that people choose to have medical problems.
Or those doctors who when they can't find a clear answer in five
minutes* announce that the problem is all in the patient's head and
hand out
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Ronn! Blankenship
Okay, let's approach it from the other end: Is there any age or
group of people by age that you think would be too young to
self-administer hard drugs for recreational purposes?
My kids, as long as I judge them unable to decide for themselves
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Ronn! Blankenship
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or those doctors who when they can't find a clear answer in five
minutes* announce that the problem is all in the patient's head ...
Yeah, that's what they said about Dave Land's brain tumor -- it was all in
his
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's the thinking that gave us the SL collapses, the Keating
Five, the sub-prime crisis, etc.
Actually, bad government regulation contributed to all of those, Dems and Reps
both. And no one has consistently predicted such
Don't let the facts get in the
way of a good piece of fiction!
what facts? after all this back and forth are you still in denial thbush
administration was largely responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis?
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:55 AM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Actually, bad government regulation contributed to all of those, Dems and
Reps
both. And no one has consistently predicted such things. You can't
preempt what you can't predict.
There have been many warnings and
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Don't let the facts get in the
way of a good piece of fiction!
what facts? after all this back and forth are you still in denial thbush
administration was largely responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis?
That
I'm done with this conversation since
you ducked my question about what
should replace government regulation.
our resident troll does that a lot. i
suspect he is an ayn rand, libertarian
wannabe, or he just likes to agitate.
one would think that the current
collapse would wake
what facts? after all this back and forth are you
still in denial the bush administration was largely
responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis?
That seems like a reasonable denial to me. It goes back
to the early 1980s. But that doesn't excuse the failure
to act, which is
On 11/15/2008 11:55:20 AM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Did you make any posts predicting the housing crisis before, say,
2004?
I don't recall having posted about this onlist, but it has been on my mind
for a few years as being a serious problem w/consequences.
What got me
Actually, bad government regulation contributed to all of
those, Dems and Reps both. And no one has consistently
predicted such things. You can't preempt what you can't
predict.
WHAT bad government regulations?
Did you make any posts predicting the housing crisis
before, say, 2004? Did
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Jon Louis Mann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't let the facts get in the
way of a good piece of fiction!
what facts? after all this back and forth are you still in denial thbush
administration was largely responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis?
LOL.
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:55 AM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
There have been many warnings and predictions;
That is a problem!
consistency in predictions is not a precondition for learning and acting.
Of
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/15/2008 11:55:20 AM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Did you make any posts predicting the housing crisis before, say,
2004?
I don't recall having posted about this onlist, but it has been on my mind
for a
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Jon Louis Mann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
are you saying no one predicted this was coming?
No, that is not what I wrote.
Have you ever seen a guy with a sign like Repent, the End is Near?
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what facts? after all this back and forth are you
still in denial the bush administration was largely
responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis?
LOL
so you admit you don't have any facts, AND that the bush administration played
a role in the subprime mortgage crisis...
are you saying no one predicted this was coming?
No, that is not what I wrote.
ah, so you ARE saying it was predicted!
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Jon Louis Mann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so you admit you don't have any facts, AND that the bush administration
played a role in the subprime mortgage crisis...
Surely you can give a single example to support your claim that Bush
deregulation was responsible
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Jon Louis Mann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i still don't understand how regulation is to blame; i would sure like to
hear some examples from someone...
I know you were on this list before September 23. Maybe you weren't
interested in examples then? If you are
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:34 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Of course it is! All sorts of people predict all sorts of things. The
only ones worth listening to are the ones who have a track record of
being consistently right.
If that were true, no market research company would be
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:34 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Of course it is! All sorts of people predict all sorts of things. The
only ones worth listening to are the ones who have a track record of
being
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 1:40 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
You want a pissing contest, do you?
Hardly. That's not an accurate description of my invitation to you.
Nick
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John Williams wrote:
Did you make any posts predicting the housing crisis before, say,
2004?
I did. Unfortunately, I can't find the post where I predicted it.
But I always predict disasters, so it's not surprising that
sometimes I'm right.
Cassandra Monteiro
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 1:03 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Jon Louis Mann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i still don't understand how regulation is to blame; i would sure like
to hear some examples from someone...
I know you were on this list
I do not consider it nonsense, as I don't consider most economics
arguments to be nonsense. Or, to put it positively, I think it makes
as much sense as many other economics arguments that I am familiar
with. Which is to say, plausible, but not entirely convincing, since
contradictory views
i still don't understand how regulation is to blame; i would sure like
to hear some examples from someone...
I know you were on this list before September 23. Maybe you weren't
interested in examples then? If you are now, then check the archive:
Did you make any posts predicting the
housing crisis before, say, 2004?
I did. Unfortunately, I can't find the post
where I predicted it. But I always predict
disasters, so it's not surprising that
sometimes I'm right.
Cassandra Monteiro
Cassandra's beauty caused Apollo to grant her
You want a pissing contest, do you?
Hardly. That's not an accurate description
of my invitation.
Nick
in other words, he knows he would
lose if he accepted your challenge.
so, any good stock tips?
jon
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah, yes, the McCain argument that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (via the CRA)
supposedly caused the sub-prime meltdown. The only trouble with that
explanation is that it is baloney. You have confused the tail with the
dog.
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 1:40 PM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
You want a pissing contest, do you?
Hardly. That's not an accurate description of my invitation to you.
I know, you wanted to compete on credentials
I know a little bit about forecasting...
I co-founded and ran a successful
market research firm and I have patents
for methods of forecasting markets. Do
you have any credentials or examples to
cite that would support your notion that
we should only listen to people who are
right all
so you admit you don't have any facts, AND that
the bush administration played a role in the subprime
mortgage crisis...
Surely you can give a single example to
support your claim that Bush deregulation
was responsible for the subprime mortgage
crisis.
tch, tch, there you go again,
the reason you did not post is one of these:
1) You were not certain enough of your prediction
to risk that other people might act on it.
2) You did not care enough to help others with
your insight. Or perhaps none of the above.
you ain't no nice guy, john williams.
I know, you wanted to compete on credentials
rather than putting
your money where your mouth (or other parts of your
anatomy) is. I
realize it is much easier to put other people's money
on the line with
one's predictions than one's own. I don't blame
you for not risking
your own money on
-- Original message from Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
--
On Nov 12, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Olin Elliott wrote:
As one of the comments says, Not all heroes have two legs
I say I know how an old war dog feels a lots like the homeless veterans
wandering the streets
i just came across this in my spam folder, claes...
socialism is not without flaws. there is
dissension among socialists, and most
would condemn my preference for a mixed
economy. i recognize the importance of
individual incentives, and not against all
private enterprise by any
On 16/11/2008, at 12:57 AM, Claes Wallin wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
On 15/11/2008, at 10:56 PM, Claes Wallin wrote:
Is there another virtual-world community with similar features that
you
would recommend as an alternative? I'm genuinely interested to know.
The pub?
+1 funny, +1
On 11/15/2008 2:40:44 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On 11/15/2008 11:55:20 AM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
Did you make any posts predicting the housing crisis before, say,
2004?
I
It is such cynical and sarcastic statements that
makes you appear to run Asshole as a native app.
Not trying to be insulting, just an observation on
why you catch so much flak. Your remarks were
uncalled for, and if you are trying to draw my
ire..try harder.
any theories why this
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then, one must also consider that I have no expertise in this subject, just
some observations based on what I know from the news and the experiences of
people I know. I try not to start such a conversation, laden with
Jphn W. wrote:
I think that heroin addicts should use drugs responsibly. I think
anybody does. Let's give the addicts a plentiful suppy of heroin and
hope they behave!
Now that's a good idea! At once we have heroin addicts that aren't
going to be stealing stuff to get their fix and we cut
I mean John W. wrote, sorry.
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jphn W. wrote:
I think that heroin addicts should use drugs responsibly. I think
anybody does. Let's give the addicts a plentiful suppy of heroin and
hope they behave!
Now that's a good
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
any theories why this person has such a mean streak.
I don't think that's my business. He is what he is.
I find greater peace when I manage to accept people as they are, rather than
as I think they should be. I would
Original Message:
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From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:10:37 -0800
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: rude and insulting
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Jon Louis Mann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I don't think that's my business. He is what he is.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
any theories why this person has such a mean streak.
I don't think that's my business. He is what he is.
I find greater peace when I manage to accept people as they are,
At 08:10 PM Saturday 11/15/2008, Nick Arnett wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Jon Louis Mann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
any theories why this person has such a mean streak.
I don't think that's my business. He is what he is.
I find greater peace when I manage to accept people as they
At 08:32 PM Saturday 11/15/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If someone attacks one of my kids or my wife
I will put in some effort to have them realize that it will not be helpful
to their own goals to keep up with such activity.
If someone _physically_ attacks one of my kids or my wife (all
At 05:59 PM Saturday 11/15/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
I know a little bit about forecasting...
I co-founded and ran a successful
market research firm and I have patents
for methods of forecasting markets. Do
you have any credentials or examples to
cite that would support your notion
At 06:54 PM Saturday 11/15/2008, Rceeberger wrote:
It is such cynical and sarcastic statements that makes you appear to run
Asshole as a native app.
I've told people that in the same way Micro$oft claimed IE is an
integral part of Windows that cannot be removed or disabled without
rendering
At 06:03 PM Saturday 11/15/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
the bush administration is largely responsible
for the current economic meltdown.
Things that happened under the Bush administration may have served
the function of the straw that broke the camel's back wrt the
current situation, but it
At 05:48 PM Saturday 11/15/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
Did you make any posts predicting the
housing crisis before, say, 2004?
I did. Unfortunately, I can't find the post
where I predicted it. But I always predict
disasters, so it's not surprising that
sometimes I'm right.
On 16/11/2008, at 1:10 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
I don't think that's my business. He is what he is.
I find greater peace when I manage to accept people as they are,
rather than
as I think they should be. I would invite others to do the same,
but I''m
not saying they should.
There's
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Ronn! Blankenship
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
History and myth also show that the one thing which is much worse
than a prognosticator whose predictions are unreliable is one whose
predictions are 100% accurate.
A member of Congress once pointed that out to
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Ronn! Blankenship
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
and
try to guess at his/her motivation(s) and the
shortcomings of his/her personality and/or history . . .
That's just because you're weak-minded.
Nick
GSV Can't Resist Irony
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
There's two sides to that. Yes, people have different opinions,
viewpoints and characters, and it is good to be accepting of a range
of views and opinions. One should certainly at least hear many views
in order to explore
Dan wrote:
But, being called a looser on an internet list, that I might analyze, but
not really have any emotional reaction to.
Excellent attitude, Dan; attack the argument ignore the puerile
aspects of the communication and don't take anything too personally.
Doug
Surely you can give a single example to support your claim that Bush
deregulation was responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis.
It's fairly obvious it all began with private investment banks going
public in the 1980's and shifting liabilities onto shareholders.
Since then it's been a
On 11/15/2008 7:50:42 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Then, one must also consider that I have no expertise in this
subject, just
some observations based on what I know from the news and the experiences
of
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is that subjects where the volume of knowledge is large and my own
understanding is limited are not subjects where I pretend to have an opinion
that can be taken as fact,
As I said, I got it in number 1.
So.you are
On 11/15/2008 10:35:11 PM, Euan Ritchie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Surely you can give a single example to support your claim that Bush
deregulation was responsible for the subprime mortgage crisis.
It's fairly obvious it all began with private investment banks going
public in the 1980's
On 11/15/2008 11:00:14 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It is that subjects where the volume of knowledge is large and my
own
understanding is limited are not subjects where I pretend to have an
opinion
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since market information is not filtered through the government but through
the market itself, exactly how does that work?
Exactly how does what work? Government regulation? Not very well.
I'm sure that is all quite true, but I think it begins earlier.
(Please correct me if I get the facts wrong here)
It's not just about home mortgages, it just happens that's the bubble
that revealed the weakness - if not for that some other, all multiple,
markets would have bubbled and burst at
Since market information is not filtered through the government but through
the market itself, exactly how does that work?
Exactly how does what work? Government regulation? Not very well.
But evidently better than none, or as it was - the pretence of self
regulation.
Investment managers
Jon said:
depends on what kind of welfare state. sweden's model is
preferable to england, both economies have access to north
sea oil. i don't believe in fostering dependency, or enabling
people working the system to supplement their under the table
income with the dole. i do believe the state
On 11/15/2008 11:43:53 PM, John Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Rceeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Since market information is not filtered through the government
but through
the market itself, exactly how does that work?
Exactly how does what
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