RE: Consequences of off-list attacks, spam, etc.? (was RE:OfficialStatement)

2002-12-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [I wrote] > > --- Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Goodness, this is complicated. > > > > Well, according to what He said to the > Libertarians, > > that might be a good thing, a sign of growing > maturity - like teenage acne! :) > >

Scouted: 'Skinny Pill for Kids' may be harmful

2002-12-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
I will be among the first to agree that we have an 'obesity epidemic' among the young, but this is going overboard: http://www.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/diet.fitness/12/09/skinny.pills/ "...Pediatric experts told CNN they're especially concerned about three herbs in the "Skinny Pill" that are diuretics

RE: Consequences of off-list attacks, spam, etc.? (was RE:OfficialStatement)

2002-12-10 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Deborah Harrell > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 9:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Consequences of off-list attacks, spam, etc.? (was RE: > OfficialStatement) > > > --- Nick Arnett <[EMA

Scouted: Suit Dropped Against Cheney Task Force

2002-12-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
Gee, what a surprise. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32277-2002Dec9.html "..Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., called it "regrettable, but not surprising, that a newly appointed federal judge chose to look the other way." Bates was appointed by President Bush. The Cheney energy plan iss

Re: Consequences of off-list attacks, spam, etc.? (was RE: OfficialStatement)

2002-12-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Goodness, this is complicated. Well, according to what He said to the Libertarians, that might be a good thing, a sign of growing maturity - like teenage acne! :) Intuitive Imagery Maru ;) __ Do you

Re: Water conservation

2002-12-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- I wrote: > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > << I noticed that golf courses managed to get > > exemptions, > > and new sod/seed was _still_ being laid in new > > subdivisions. :P >> > > > > What is the percentage of golf courses there that > > use tap water

[Listref] Hayman Fire

2002-12-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
Update on the biggest fire in recorded Colorado history: http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E53%257E1032869,00.html?search=filter "Terry Lynn Barton will serve five to 10 years in federal prison for starting the largest wildfire in Colorado history if a plea agreement is approved toda

Re: [ir]rational answer question

2002-12-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- "Robert J. Chassell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [I wrote:] > My grasp of formal logic is tentative at best, > but I > never understood why one should propose an > "imaginary > number" like the square root of -2 (IIRC the > term > correctly), as - to me - math is supposed to > de

RE: Keening Linux

2002-12-10 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Erik Reuter > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 7:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Keening Linux > > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 07:23:55PM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: > > > Suggestions welcome..

Re: Internet Free Speech struck down by Australian court

2002-12-10 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Russell Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 1:25 AM Subject: Re: Internet Free Speech struck down by Australian court > The Fool wrote: > > >http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/12/10/1039379819086.html > > >

Re: Starship Trooper

2002-12-10 Thread David Hobby
Reggie Bautista wrote: > > David H. wrote: > > > > I agree. The movie is actually pretty good, you just have > > > >to watch it the right way. View it as a propaganda film produced > > > >by a state so warlike that only soldiers can vote... > > Alberto replied: > > > No. Only _veterans_ can vo

Re: Engrish?

2002-12-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: > > http://www.engrish.com/ > http://www.engrish.com/recent/ > > Them people talk funny! They shore do. On the "recent", I think my favorite one was the one added Dec. 2. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/l

Re: Why did the Chicken cross the road?

2002-12-10 Thread Medievalbk
The world's very first chicken joke. Back when the Roman legions had left Britain, and Christianity was making it's introduction, there was a Pictish coward. He lived through a battle. He slaughtered Christians. He didn't want to fight again. Imagine that. He knew that no one in his trib

NAFTA Re: Dr. Brin's LPNC keynote speech

2002-12-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Deborah Harrell wrote: > NAFTA (trucking, among others) came in under Clinton, > but I don't know if Dems initiated it. My political > saavy is still in infancy... :) It was set up by Bush-41 (i.e., GHWB, the father), at least. Don't remember exactly when it was ratified, but it might have been

Re: Keening Linux

2002-12-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 07:23:55PM -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: > Suggestions welcome... and now the speaker is disconnected. Just a guess: the first thing I would troubleshoot would be the keyboard and keyboard jack. Could be a poor connection or a flaky keyboard. -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Your Japanese Name

2002-12-10 Thread Jim Sharkey
Steve Sloan II wrote: >Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: > >>I am Ademu ku ripusukonbu >> >>Now, taste my steel, pawn of Apu! > >"Thank you, come again!" ;-) > >Assuming that's a Samurai Jack reference, the demon's name >is Aku. :-) Who disturbs the Master of Masters? I love that show, though I don't get

Re: Starship Trooper

2002-12-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
This is what I think of when I hear "Starship Trooper" Starship Trooper I. Life Seeker Anderson Sister Bluebird flying high above, Shine your wings forward to the sun. Hide the myst'ries of life on your way. Though you've seen them, please don't say a word. What you don't know, I have neve

Keening Linux

2002-12-10 Thread Nick Arnett
Any Linux folks out there, who could suggest why my Linux server suddenly wants to emit a steady high-pitched tone -- not from the disk drive, as I imagined earlier, but from the PC speaker. This machine has no sound card at all. I can't see any reason for the sound, which starts at seemingly ran

Re: Server downtime

2002-12-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 07:38:32PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No idea what it really means. Redundant Array of Inexpensive Discs. It refers to using 2 or more hard drives together for added reliability and/or speed. -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.net/ __

Fwd: Why did the Chicken cross the road?

2002-12-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
This pokes fun at just about everyone. ;D > WHY DID THE CHICKEN CROSS THE ROAD? > > > GEORGE W. BUSH > I don't think I should have to answer that question. > > > AL GORE > I invented the chicken. I invented the road. > Therefore, the chicken > crossin

Re: Dr. Brin's LPNC keynote speech

2002-12-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 07:09:38PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: > Deborafu Harureruru That's by far the best one so far! -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Consequences of off-list attacks, spam, etc.? (was RE: OfficialStatement)

2002-12-10 Thread Nick Arnett
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 11:46 AM ... > I must disagree with this. Off-list offenses are a private matter between > the sender and the recipient, and therefore it is for the recipient (and > only the rec

Re: Your Japanese Name

2002-12-10 Thread Steve Sloan II
"Adam C. Lipscomb" wrote: > I am Ademu ku ripusukonbu > > Now, taste my steel, pawn of Apu! "Thank you, come again!" ;-) Assuming that's a Samurai Jack reference, the demon's name is Aku. :-) BTW, my Japanese name is apparently Sutebe Suroanu, so Domo Arigato, Mr. JavaScript Roboto! ;-) __

Re: Starship Trooper

2002-12-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
David H. wrote: > > I agree. The movie is actually pretty good, you just have > >to watch it the right way. View it as a propaganda film produced > >by a state so warlike that only soldiers can vote... Alberto replied: > No. Only _veterans_ can vote. Soldiers don't vote. David responded:

Re: Dr. Brin's LPNC keynote speech

2002-12-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
Finally got the time to read this in one go - not only does it engender cheerful agreement, self-congratulatory vindication, unpleasant self-recognition, and nodding determination, but it also ties-in to recent threads from 'Lord of the Rings' through Robert Kagan to Official Statements. --- Bryon

RE: Starship Trooper

2002-12-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:17 PM 12/10/02 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Ronn! Blankenship > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 11:53 AM ... > Though on the other hand, no one has saluted me in twenty years > or so . . . Well,

Server back

2002-12-10 Thread Nick Arnett
Mccmedia.com is back on-line, and the disk drive is quiet... but it's the same drive. Just couldn't get Linux to play friendly with a new controller. And then the disk got very, very quiet... machine wouldn't boot. One cable replacement later, all seems to be well for now. But instead of install

RE: Your Japanese Name

2002-12-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
Short version: Jon Gaburieru Long version: Jonafun Gaburieru I *do* like Godzilla Horowitz, though. Maybe I'll name my kid that: "Godzilla! Stop eating the neighbor's cat!" ...such lovely possibilities... *grin* Jon GSV Burin-ru -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAI

Re: Your Japanese Name

2002-12-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
Regujie Bauchisuta. And my email address came out as Baure Gakanu. That's not much fun... Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Re: Server downtime

2002-12-10 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 12/10/2002 5:30:56 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm going to take a shot > at installing a RAID for redundancy, but I'm not sure if I'll manage to > configure it quickly.. Run, you cockroaches, run! William Taylor No idea wh

Server downtime

2002-12-10 Thread Nick Arnett
The list will be off for a while starting in 30 minutes or so, as I replace a disk drive that's making a scary keening sound. I'm going to take a shot at installing a RAID for redundancy, but I'm not sure if I'll manage to configure it quickly... but in any event, a new drive is in order. Sorry f

Re: Your Japanese Name

2002-12-10 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
I am Ademu ku ripusukonbu Now, taste my steel, pawn of Apu! Adam C. Lipscomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Silence. I am watching television." - Spider Jerusalem ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Engrish?

2002-12-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.engrish.com/ http://www.engrish.com/recent/ Them people talk funny! xponent Bad Engrish Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Your Japanese Name

2002-12-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Robert Seeberger wrote: > > http://www.rcs.k12.va.us/csjh/japanesename.htm > > Roberutsu Seeberujiru > and > Zuponentsu Juria Funpusonu and seeing as you entered a nickname, I entered one of mine ("Froggie") and got back Furogujie Julia who's going to leave the name-conversion at that

Your Japanese Name

2002-12-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.rcs.k12.va.us/csjh/japanesename.htm Roberutsu Seeberujiru and Zuponentsu xponent I Was Hoping For Godzilla Horowitz Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Second Life - Snowcrash coming to life?

2002-12-10 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.gamespy.com/previews/december02/secondlifepc/ Say "massively-multiplayer online game" to gamers and immediately a set of pre-conceived notions will pop into their heads. They imagine groups of characters, most likely in a fantasy setting, bashing monsters and watching their experience b

Re: this is what happens when republicans get control of federal agencies

2002-12-10 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: > > http://www.guerrillanews.com/media/doc879.html > > If Powell's FCC follows his previous positions, this ruling could sweep > away the very last remaining protections related to media ownership. > Powell has publicly stated that he has "no idea what is meant by the > public int

Re: Official Statement

2002-12-10 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, J. van Baardwijk wrote: > At 18:57 09-12-2002 -0600, Marvin Long wrote: > > >Formal statements of apology or reformed intent should not be required for > >mere on-list etiquette offenses, at least not for first or second offenses. > >(Off-list offenses that go beyond breaches

RE: Starship Trooper

2002-12-10 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Ronn! Blankenship > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 11:53 AM ... > Though on the other hand, no one has saluted me in twenty years > or so . . . Well, I just did. There you go. I even faced southe

List management (was RE: Official Statement)

2002-12-10 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk ... > I must disagree with this. Off-list offenses are a private matter between > the sender and the recipient, and therefore it is for the recipient (and > only the recipient) to deci

Re: Starship Trooper

2002-12-10 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:02 AM 12/10/02 -0500, David Hobby wrote: > > I agree. The movie is actually pretty good, you just have > >to watch it the right way. View it as a propaganda film produced > >by a state so warlike that only soldiers can vote... > > > No. Only _veterans_ can vote. Soldiers don't vote. > > Al

RE: Contacting Aliens destroyed.

2002-12-10 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 02:34 PM 12/10/02 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: GSV Unless you're looking for a comment in the 'contact through anal probe' category, but I suppose that would be just completely tasteless. ;-) To be accurate, it would probably not be tasteless, but in extremely bad taste. --Ronn! :) "Bathr

Re: Official Statement

2002-12-10 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:45 PM 12/10/02 +0100, J. van Baardwijk wrote: At 18:57 09-12-2002 -0600, Marvin Long wrote: (Attempting the same thing over and over again while expecting different results is the definition of insanity, someone said.) As someone who gets paid to solve problems that are related to M$ Wi

Re: fibre for the masses

2002-12-10 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:31 AM 12/10/02 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: Doug wrote: > > Erik Reuter wrote: > > > > >Wasn't planning on it, I work in components, not cables. By the way, > >that article is more than 2 years old. I remember reading about fibers > >in sewers years ago. I didn't hear about it again -- I do

Re: Contacting Aliens destroyed.

2002-12-10 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 12/10/2002 1:24:22 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > *grin* > > And of course, it should not in any way be taken as a criticism of the > author that certain parts of your body are destroying his work while you're > unconscious. Well, I have been

RE: Official Statement

2002-12-10 Thread Horn, John
> From: J. van Baardwijk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > I hereby offer my sincere apologies for my part in all this > mess and for the disturbance it caused I'm a little late in chiming in here but I'd just like to say: WAHHH-H I've been trying to talk some people into joining the list a

Re: Official Statement

2002-12-10 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 18:57 09-12-2002 -0600, Marvin Long wrote: Formal statements of apology or reformed intent should not be required for mere on-list etiquette offenses, at least not for first or second offenses. (Off-list offenses that go beyond breaches of etiquette may be quite another matter, however.) I m

RE: Contacting Aliens destroyed.

2002-12-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "Miller, Jeffrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Contacting Aliens destroyed. Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:39:32 -0800 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 05:5

RE: Contacting Aliens destroyed.

2002-12-10 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 05:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Contacting Aliens destroyed. > > > Well it finally happened. > > After a late night read, this morning I found my copy of > Contacti

Re: Starship Trooper

2002-12-10 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 12/10/2002 9:06:53 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > No. Only _veterans_ can vote. Soldiers don't vote. > > > > Alberto Monteiro > > I appreciate the distinction. But once a soldier, always > a soldier. > > ---David But a

Re: Starship Trooper

2002-12-10 Thread David Hobby
> > I agree. The movie is actually pretty good, you just have > >to watch it the right way. View it as a propaganda film produced > >by a state so warlike that only soldiers can vote... > > > No. Only _veterans_ can vote. Soldiers don't vote. > > Alberto Monteiro I appreciate the distin

RE: this is what happens when republicans get control offederalagencies

2002-12-10 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro ... > How interesting. Here in Brazil some people are also afraid of > the loosening of the rules of media ownership - probably for > the opposite reason: because USA imperialists will

Re: fibre for the masses

2002-12-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Doug wrote: > > Erik Reuter wrote: > > > > >Wasn't planning on it, I work in components, not cables. By the way, > >that article is more than 2 years old. I remember reading about fibers > >in sewers years ago. I didn't hear about it again -- I don't know if > >they followed through with the ide

Re: this is what happens when republicans get control of federalagencies

2002-12-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro
The Fool wrote: > >If Powell's FCC follows his previous positions, this ruling could sweep >away the very last remaining protections related to media ownership. > How interesting. Here in Brazil some people are also afraid of the loosening of the rules of media ownership - probably for the opposite

this is what happens when republicans get control of federal agencies

2002-12-10 Thread The Fool
http://www.guerrillanews.com/media/doc879.html If Powell's FCC follows his previous positions, this ruling could sweep away the very last remaining protections related to media ownership. Powell has publicly stated that he has "no idea what is meant by the public interest" and prefers to let the m