Re: Good Lord, it's hot

2006-07-24 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Dave Land wrote: So there appear to be at least two ways to deal with the heat: crank up the AC and the fan, or crank up the blues. You non-tropicals are so weird. Enjoy the heat; that's what Homo sapiens was designed [:-)] to cope. Alberto Monteiro

Re: Good Lord, it's hot

2006-07-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Alberto Monteiro wrote: Dave Land wrote: So there appear to be at least two ways to deal with the heat: crank up the AC and the fan, or crank up the blues. You non-tropicals are so weird. Enjoy the heat; that's what Homo sapiens was designed [:-)] to cope. Yeah, well, I've run into a few

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-24 Thread Reggie Bautista
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: Re: WTC Redux Matthew and Julie Bos wrote: On 7/19/06 11:47 AM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the strength of your

Re: Good Lord, it's hot

2006-07-24 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 24, 2006, at 3:34 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Dave Land wrote: So there appear to be at least two ways to deal with the heat: crank up the AC and the fan, or crank up the blues. You non-tropicals are so weird. Enjoy the heat; that's what Homo sapiens was designed [:-)] to cope.

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-07-24 Thread Dave Land
On Jul 24, 2006, at 8:05 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Nick Arnett wrote: I suspect that the vast majority of Americans, when asked if Iraq had complied with Chapter 672.4 of the UN Security Resolutions, requiring disarmament of model airplanes, they'd say (...) (a) Yes - 0.4% (b) No - 0.7%

Re: WTC Redux

2006-07-24 Thread Julia Thompson
Reggie Bautista wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: Re: WTC Redux Matthew and Julie Bos wrote: On 7/19/06 11:47 AM, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the

FEMA disaster for free speech

2006-07-24 Thread Nick Arnett
I've read about this before, but it still just astonishes me that Katrina survivors have lost civil rights as a result. They end up living in a community where they are not free to talk to the press unless there is a FEMA representative present. They can't have a landline telephone or cable

Re: FEMA disaster for free speech

2006-07-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:09 PM Monday 7/24/2006, Nick Arnett wrote: I've read about this before, but it still just astonishes me that Katrina survivors have lost civil rights as a result. They end up living in a community where they are not free to talk to the press unless there is a FEMA representative present.

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 7/23/2006 7:17:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do the cells *really* have human DNA? The wikipedia mentions their extraordinary reproductive properties - don't these properties necessitate some sort of change in the DNA? After all, if you took

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread David Hobby
maru dubshinki wrote: On 7/19/06, David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alberto Monteiro wrote: ... Or we can hold all sets of axioms, assign a prior probability to each of them, then apply Bayesian analysis with real world examples and get a posteriori probability for each sets. ...

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-07-24 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is complex about this question, to pick one major example -- should the US have gone to war with Iraq if US intelligence had concluded that Iraq was not making WMD or providing support to al Qaeda? Is that too complex for

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome back. Thank you. I think you're missing Charlie's point. To me, his argument is that it is VERY hard to draw a clear line between things that can turn into adult humans and things that can't. I advise conceding the

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/07/2006, at 12:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HeLa cells came from a tumor of Helen Lane. Helen Lane was a pseudonym used to protect the patient's identity. Her real name was Henrietta Lacks. They are unquestionably human cells. They have a mutation that allows them to continue to

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I'm saying WHAT THEY'RE CALLED is beside the point. Which I continue to fail to understand. Obviously, some very intelligent people believe that HeLa are of, at minimum, another genus from humans, let alone of another species.

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread maru dubshinki
On 7/24/06, David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maru dubshinki wrote: I think having them cancel out would be a better idea. We could formalize each god as really being a infinite series of ethical axioms (covering every possible action), each of which says to do or do not a specific

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread David Hobby
jdiebremse wrote: ... May I propose that you reply: Anything produced by combining a human egg and sperm certainly counts as HUMAN. Other things might also; we'll decide about clones later. How about - any individual organism whose adult stage is an adult human is a human? Well, to start

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/07/2006, at 1:40 PM, David Hobby wrote: How terribly disappointing. How anyone could consider a half-cell to be human is beyond me. JDG You're right. Sperm and eggs would be some of the few cells that would NOT count as human, since they don't have enough chromosomes. : ) Jesus

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/07/2006, at 1:04 PM, jdiebremse wrote: How terribly disappointing. How anyone could consider a half-cell to be human is beyond me. A sperm is not a half cell. It is a highly specialised full cell that happens to have a half-set of chromosomes. Same for an ovum. Charlie

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/07/2006, at 1:14 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I'm saying WHAT THEY'RE CALLED is beside the point. Which I continue to fail to understand. Obviously, some very intelligent people believe that HeLa are of, at minimum, another

Re: RFK Jr. interview

2006-07-24 Thread Nick Arnett
On 7/24/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For one thing, does Iraq not producing WMD also mean that Iraq had no stockpiles of WMD? Does it also mean that Iraq was not retaining to capacity to restart WMD programs as soon as sanctions were lifted? Yes, Nick, it is complex. I

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/23/2006 7:17:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do the cells *really* have human DNA? The wikipedia mentions their extraordinary reproductive properties - don't these properties necessitate some sort of change in the

Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex

2006-07-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:03 PM Sunday 7/23/2006, maru dubshinki wrote: ~maru we can clearly through a simple diagonal argument along the lines of cantor that the number of angels is uncountable, and thus the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin is the same number as the number of real numbers...

Re: Good Lord, it's hot

2006-07-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:53 PM Sunday 7/23/2006, Nick Arnett wrote: On 7/23/06, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:33 PM Sunday 7/23/2006, Nick Arnett wrote: The last two days, my little indoor/outdoor thermometer has recorded a high temp of 117 degrees. I suppose I should clarify that that was