Re: Netiquette

2007-09-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 20/09/2007, at 3:58 AM, Dave Land wrote: >> >> I'm not sure what this means. I thought you wanted to discuss the >> ettiquette of online communication? Why do you have to repeatedly >> resort to these ad hominems? > > I sincerely apologize for this and other ad-hominem attacks that I > have r

Re: Car free London?

2007-09-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/09/2007, at 1:47 AM, Dan Minettte wrote: > > Calculations show that a car-free inner London scenario equates to > a 49% > reduction in emissions7. Because most London car trips are within > outer > London, changes in inner London boroughs alone were not found to be > sufficient to meet

Re: Car free London?

2007-09-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/09/2007, at 12:19 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: > > I tried to re-acquire a bicycle and ride it and found I was no > longer secure > in my balance. You are the perfect candidate to discover the joys of triking. I have read story after story by people who rediscovered the joys of cycling thr

Re: Car free London?

2007-09-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/09/2007, at 1:47 AM, Dan Minettte wrote: > > Finally, are you arguing that those people who do drive in greater > London > are just a bunch of idiots who could do much better if only they > used public > transportation instead? I'll answer the rest later as I'm just heading off to work

Re: Car free London?

2007-09-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/09/2007, at 12:27 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: > > Question: How much does a good bike (good for riding around > London) cost? (Wondering how good a selling point this is; if it > pays for itself in 2 years, that's a good deal, IMO.) Answer one - as much as you want to spend. OK, I'm cur

Re: Car free London?

2007-09-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/09/2007, at 12:34 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > Julia Thompson wrote: >> >> Question: How much does a good bike (good for riding around London) >> cost? >> (Wondering how good a selling point this is; if it pays for itself >> in 2 years, that's a good deal, IMO.) >> > I don't think this

Re: Car free London?

2007-09-17 Thread Charlie Bell
> > Never, ever post a private message to a mailing list. > It is an unconscionable breach of netiquette. Oddly enough, I think that replying to an onlist post offlist is pretty poor netiquette. If you wish to berate someone for their behaviour onlist, do it onlist or not at all. It's called

Re: Car free London?

2007-09-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 17/09/2007, at 1:06 PM, Dan Minettte wrote: > > Well, technically, the proposal doesn't force people to walk. > There could > be mass transit on each and every street, I suppose. It's just > that any > realistic implementation of the proposal would force people who are > not > capable

Re: Car free London?

2007-09-16 Thread Charlie Bell
On 16/09/2007, at 6:21 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > > Now, Charlie Rob and I do not live in London, so our experiences do > not directly translate. No, but I did grow up in London, and used a bike pretty much exclusively there too. And it was likewise far quicker by bike there too, because I

Re: Car free London?

2007-09-14 Thread Charlie Bell
On 15/09/2007, at 6:01 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: > > What's mysterious about it? People take extra time to get into work, > this costs. Time to work for me: Car: 40 mins Train: 40 mins Tram: 45 mins Bicycle: 25 mins. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia

Re: Feeling a k'chu-non :-(

2007-08-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/08/2007, at 11:18 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > > It is NOT just you. > Ah good. Charlie About To Cycle To Work Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Feeling a k'chu-non :-(

2007-08-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/08/2007, at 10:49 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: > > Charlie Bell wrote: >> You're losing content somewhere in these posts. > > Silly rabbit. Content-free posts are what we're best at around here. Sorry, I should have been more precise. Text-free posts is what I mean

Re: Feeling a k'chu-non :-(

2007-08-28 Thread Charlie Bell
Urm... You're losing content somewhere in these posts. Charlie. On 28/08/2007, at 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ___ > http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mail

Re: Lunar Eclipse Tuesday Morning

2007-08-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/08/2007, at 8:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were you trying to say something, but were caught by the beauty of the eclipse? :-) Charlie In Melbourne Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Lunar Eclipse Tuesday Morning

2007-08-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/08/2007, at 12:47 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > Best view in the U.S. the further west you are. Details here: > > Or right now in Oz. Red moon! Charlie My 5th Lunar Eclipse Maru __

Re: Another one bites the dust.

2007-08-27 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/08/2007, at 6:42 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > >> Perhaps the Dems in congress can find the guts to bring Gonzales' >> boss >> to the same decision. They've done it before, and it is widely >> regarded as a good moment in American history. > > Since, according to most polls, Congress's approva

Re: Global Warming Mistake

2007-08-14 Thread Charlie Bell
On 14/08/2007, at 8:55 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: > On 13 Aug 2007 at 8:54, Robert Seeberger wrote: > >> Robert Seeberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/08/ >>> revised_temp_data_reduces_glob.html > > As usual... check Realclimate first? > > http://www.re

Re: Noahide Laws

2007-08-06 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/08/2007, at 6:49 AM, William T Goodall wrote: >> >> I bet the originators of the "Golden Rule" assumed that people all >> generally wanted to be treated _well_, so "as you wish" would be >> the equivalent of "as they wish". >> > > I think Charlie's point is that what constitutes being treat

Re: Noahide Laws

2007-08-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 02/08/2007, at 3:17 AM, Dave Land wrote: > >6. Minimize the harm you do to others and yourself. Treat others > as you > would wish to be treated. Surely much better to treat people as *they* wish to be treated? Charlie ...back online finally after moving house, reading all posts bu

Re: Deathly Hallows - no spoilers

2007-07-21 Thread Charlie Bell
On 22/07/2007, at 5:38 AM, Gautam Mukunda wrote: > I just finished it. I'm in San Diego, so I lost three hours due to > the time change, but just finished it. It's amazing, wonderful, > deeply moving, and not just everything I hoped for, but far more. > Happy reading to all of you still

Re: VP not part of Executive Branch?

2007-07-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 17/07/2007, at 6:01 AM, Dan Minette wrote: >> >> When has an American Citizen been held as an enemy combatant and >> completely isolated? > > I'm not sure that exact thing has happened, but I know that in WWII > Americans citizens, captured in the US have been declared enemy > combatants > a

Re: U.S. health care

2007-07-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 14/07/2007, at 4:04 AM, Dan Minette wrote: >> > >> That assumes you keep providing care the way you do. >> >> Increase preventative medicine and primary nursing, and you reduce >> other healthcare threefold. > > How? ...because hospital stays reduce and recovery times increase. Good prevent

Re: U.S. health care

2007-07-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/07/2007, at 1:01 PM, Dan Minette wrote: > of GDP. If everyone were to get the care available to those with > the very > best insurance policiesthen it would probably jump to 20% or > so...immediately (That assumes that the health care denied by > reasons of > costs represents only

Re: DRM for porn

2007-07-04 Thread Charlie Bell
On 05/07/2007, at 3:01 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: > This is just too funny not to share: ...porn could be reasonably described as a root kit... Charlie ...who is aware this joke may only work Down Under... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinf

Re: Remake of Omega Man.

2007-07-04 Thread Charlie Bell
On 05/07/2007, at 2:54 AM, Gary Nunn wrote: > > Just ran across this.it's is a remake of the Omega Man that > originally > starred Charlton Heston. > > I Am legend stars Will Smith. The trailer is short but looks > promising. Looks like it's not a remake of the film, but a new adaptati

VP not part of Executive Branch?

2007-06-24 Thread Charlie Bell
Now, I'm sure many of the finer points of the US political system are beyond me... but isn't this, like, basic? Charlie. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Michael Moore

2007-05-26 Thread Charlie Bell
On 27/05/2007, at 6:49 AM, jon louis mann wrote: > workers. i much prefer moore's fact checking say to that of bill > o'reilley or anne coulter. Anne Coulter checks facts? I thought she just pulled them out of her arse. Charlie. ___ http://www.mcc

Re: U.S. health care

2007-05-25 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/05/2007, at 7:09 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > > That's true, but if one is really broke, beans and cornbread are > very cheap. > You can get the makings for a family of four for about a dollar. And that's a sustainment diet. > > It's hard to get fruit and fresh veggies cheap. It's not hard

Re: U.S. health care

2007-05-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/05/2007, at 6:36 AM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: > > You raise an interesting and important point. It is less expensive -- > sometimes *much* less expensive -- to each unhealthy foods than it > is to eat > healthy. Not really. It's just a lot more effort to go to the market, or plan out y

Re: hot air polemics

2007-05-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 24/05/2007, at 12:21 PM, Dan Minette wrote: > > Now, by a UK test, I come out very slightly to the right of center > in the > UK...but the UK mean is to the left of the US mean. 15 years ago, you'd have been firmly to the right. The UK "left" is slightly right of centre these days... You

Re: hot air polemics

2007-05-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 24/05/2007, at 9:04 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: > We are also missing some of the more liberal types and a couple of > (dare I say) complete whack jobs who could make the list quite > interesting at times. Well, you've still got a socialist... Charlie __

Re: GeoCaching

2007-05-13 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/05/2007, at 10:52 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: > > If your not familiar with GeoCaching, basically "caches" are hidden > all > around the world, and then logged into a database with their > coordinates and > a few very basic hints. The object of the game is to download the > different > cache

Re: Irregulars Question: Screws

2007-05-11 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/05/2007, at 10:45 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > Not that kind. Get your mind out of the gutter. > > > There are screws which have a hexagonal-shaped depression in the head > which require a tool which is variously called an "Allen wrench" or a > "hex key" to turn them. Then there are som

Re: Re Cost of conservation

2007-05-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 08/05/2007, at 1:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > you will see my suggestion as one of three parts of a comprehensive > program. This has a marginally high chance of promoting DDT-resistant > mosquitos, but I think we agree that it's not much compared to the > widespread, indiscriminate us

Re: Re Cost of conservation

2007-05-07 Thread Charlie Bell
On 05/05/2007, at 4:05 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > > Indeed, Gautam made a good argument here that environmental policy and > environmentalist claims is a major contributor to the death of 1 > million/year due to malaria. The US used DDT as part of its > elimination of > malaria. No human death

Re: mail programs

2007-04-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On 21/04/2007, at 11:39 AM, jon louis mann wrote: > > why don't mail programs don't offer alternatives like > different font types, or colours? They do. But you're reading through the web, not through Mail. On my Mac, using Mail, first quoted text is blue, second green and so on. > even on a

Re: I have a new hero

2007-04-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On 21/04/2007, at 5:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I guess that depends on what "the sort of thing" means. Clearly, > we don't > lose 30 Americans in Iraq every dayI'm not even sure we have > lost 30 > Americans since the conclusion of major combat. What, since Bush declared "Missi

jon louis

2007-04-19 Thread Charlie Bell
Could you please set your mail client to put quotemarks by text you're quoting when you reply? It would make your posts a whole lot easier to read. Ta! Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: This is not a False Alarm...

2007-04-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/04/2007, at 8:09 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > > I fear that the report generated, for the government, the desired > result. > But, I could be proven wrong by an experimentraise the tax on > oil and > gas and see what happens. There would be, in the UK at least, petrol blockades like th

Re: This is not a False Alarm...

2007-04-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/04/2007, at 7:01 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > > Here, AWD means all wheel drive Yes, that's what it means everywhere. There are transmission losses. These are greater in an AWD car, obviously. It's why power ratings are given at the flywheel for tuning, but at the wheels by manufactur

Re: This is not a False Alarm...

2007-04-12 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/04/2007, at 6:58 AM, Dan Minette wrote: >> >> Newer cars use less fuel to travel further than older cars. > > Lighter newer cars might...but I don't think the same sized new > cars. In a > real sense, a small car is more efficient than a large car, but > that's not > what I was thinkin

Re: This is not a False Alarm...

2007-04-11 Thread Charlie Bell
On 12/04/2007, at 1:09 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > > Actually, there has been. I remember what pollution was like 40 > years ago > compared to now. For example, we have accepted a very significant > decrease > in the efficiency of our cars in order to cut pollution. Huh? What measure of effic

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-09 Thread Charlie Bell
On 10/04/2007, at 3:01 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Dan Minette wrote: >> >> So, in conclusion, while I don't know that Dawkins has such a gene >> (or even if such a gene exists) Dawkins has not provided sufficient >> information to falsify that statement. Instead, the correct answer >> appears

Re: Not reading statistics gets a Drubbing

2007-04-09 Thread Charlie Bell
On 10/04/2007, at 2:22 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > > Agreed, but I don't think that's enough to support Dawkins' claim > that he > definitely does not have such a gene. Now, I'm an agnostic > concerning the > existence of a "religious" gene, but let's assume, for argument's > sake, that > one

Re: Pernicious Evil Nonsense gets a Drubbing

2007-04-08 Thread Charlie Bell
On 09/04/2007, at 6:08 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: > > Interesting how the name of the holiday more resembles that of a pagan > goddess than anything having to do with Christ > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eostre > > Just sayin'. I'm sure you know this, but it's 'cause Christianity is a big

Re: Ferro-Magnetic Ballet

2007-04-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 03/04/2007, at 8:13 AM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: > http://www.boingboing.net/2007/04/02/ferrofluid_sculpture.html > Artists Sachiko Kodama and Yasushi Miyajima create magnificently > surreal kinetic sculptures where a liquid filled with nanoscale > ferromagnetic particles flows, rotates, If

Re: Coalition Seeks Elimination of Incandescent Light Bulb

2007-03-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On 21/03/2007, at 1:38 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > > I have found that some of them didn't last nearly as long as > advertised. I > had 'seven year' bulbs fail in less than a year. I know that the > older ones > will die faster if they're turned on and off often, but I'm not > sure about > t

Re: Bad Sci-Fi

2007-03-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/03/2007, at 11:15 AM, jon louis mann wrote: > one of my favorite sf authors, theodore sturgeon, said, "90% of > everything is crap, including science fiction". He actually said it's "crud". :-) Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/lis

Re: Coalition Seeks Elimination of Incandescent Light Bulb

2007-03-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On 20/03/2007, at 9:39 AM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: > > > A recent article in the New York Times reports that a coalition of > industrialists, environmentalists, and energy specialists is banding > together to try to eliminate the incandescent light bulb in about 10 > years. But how will my l

Re: No accounting for taste . . .

2007-03-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 20/03/2007, at 3:46 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: >> And humans cannot digest milk products. This can, or so I'm told, >> easily be >> proven if you conduct your research in China. > > No, that's not quite true. > > All Human babies can digest milk products. Adults, only if they have > the right

A different perspective on the War in Iraq

2007-02-20 Thread Charlie Bell
There's an interesting piece by Scienceblogger Mike Dunford up at his site. His wife is serving in Iraq at the moment. "It isn't possible to adequately describe what a long military deployment is like for those left behind, but I'm going to try anyway. I'm going to try, even though I know th

Re: Victory Is Not an Option

2007-02-18 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/02/2007, at 12:15 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: > Charlie Bell wrote: >> Melbourne Victory is an option. They won the Australian league last >> night, beating Adelaide 6-0 in the Grand Final... >> >> ;) >> >> Charlie > > Is this good, bad o

Re: Victory Is Not an Option

2007-02-18 Thread Charlie Bell
Melbourne Victory is an option. They won the Australian league last night, beating Adelaide 6-0 in the Grand Final... ;) Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Endless Universe Made Possible By New Model

2007-02-12 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/02/2007, at 5:43 PM, Doug wrote: > Charlie wrote: > >> On the contrary, I'd say it's a positive boon! > > I imagine it affects different people different ways. It makes me > feel groggy and slightly nauseous. Coincidentally, that's precisely how physics makes me feel... Charlie ___

Re: Endless Universe Made Possible By New Model

2007-02-12 Thread Charlie Bell
On 13/02/2007, at 3:07 PM, Doug wrote: > Dan wrote: > > >> As an aside, the first results of GP-B will be given at the APS >> meeting in >> April. My guess is that they are not earth shatteringor >> they'd be >> pre-announced in the press. > > I just spoke with someone who spent a good d

Re: Digital Rights Management is evil

2007-02-04 Thread Charlie Bell
On 05/02/2007, at 2:24 AM, Gary Nunn wrote: > > Additionally, there's a limited number of times I can copy or move > the file > on my computer, then it self destructs and will no longer open. > I'm also > limited on the number of times I can print it. Hmmm, I wonder if the Mac's "save to pd

Re: Endless Universe Made Possible By New Model

2007-02-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/02/2007, at 6:48 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > I think the key "new" idea is given in this paragraph: > > "At the turnaround, each fragmented patch collapses and contracts > individually instead of pulling back together in a reversal of the Big > Bang. The patches become an infinite numbe

Re: Endless Universe Made Possible By New Model

2007-02-02 Thread Charlie Bell
On 03/02/2007, at 1:44 AM, Dan Minette wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:brin-l- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Charlie Bell >> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:55 PM >> To: Killer Bs Discussion >>

Re: Endless Universe Made Possible By New Model

2007-02-01 Thread Charlie Bell
On 02/02/2007, at 11:02 AM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: > > Wellthat is pretty much what I was getting at, that chemistry > might not be possible in some configurations. Or that even atoms might > not be possible. > WRT that, I think it is a valid question. Sure, but there will also be many m

Re: Endless Universe Made Possible By New Model

2007-02-01 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/02/2007, at 10:22 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: > > Heh! > I'm thinking more along the lines of Pi, C, or Planks Constant having > differing values. I know that's what you meant, but it still seems to be a wrong-way- round argument. Even if those constants were different, whatever the

Re: What science fiction writer are you?

2007-02-01 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/02/2007, at 3:40 PM, Doug wrote: >> >> Yeah. Claire said that Glory Season pisses her off 'cause Brin comes >> across as badly sexist. I don't see it, but I guess that's the >> point... > > What's her rational? Assuming you meant rationale, um. I don't know. That's just what she said w

Re: Endless Universe Made Possible By New Model

2007-01-31 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/02/2007, at 2:13 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: > IOW, will the daughter universes be as favorable for life as ours, or > will they be random iterations? Very tiny, almost unmeasurably small, bits of our universe are favourable to life. This whole "fine tuning" set of arguments strikes

Re: Endless Universe Made Possible By New Model

2007-01-31 Thread Charlie Bell
On 01/02/2007, at 1:20 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote: > > "This cycle happens an infinite number of times, thus eliminating any > start or end of time," Frampton said. "There is no Big Bang." Um... I thought Big Bang theory doesn't rule out a prior Big Crunch. What they're doing is presenting

Re: What science fiction writer are you?

2007-01-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 31/01/2007, at 10:05 AM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: > > Question("Are you a total dork when dealing with the opposite > sex?", 8); > A("I probably offend a lot more people than I realize I do.", > "acdgnpuvz"); Yeah. Claire said that Glory Season pisses her off 'cause Brin co

Re: The Last Question

2007-01-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 31/01/2007, at 9:20 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > I had never read this Asimov story before... it's his favorite, > apparently. > > http://infohost.nmt.edu/~mlindsey/asimov/question.htm Yep, it's a classic. :-) I've discovered my Foundation trilogy is among the missing books from my moving in

Re: What science fiction writer are you?

2007-01-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 31/01/2007, at 2:35 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > Posted to a friend's blog... who discovered that he is David Brin. I came out as Benford. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: ADMIN: Network outage

2007-01-29 Thread Charlie Bell
On 30/01/2007, at 6:54 AM, Deborah Harrell wrote: >> Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hmm. Maybe there's a way to merge all old mail into >> mailman. I'll >> ponder. Certainly the Headless Clone Ranching needs >> preserving.

Re: ADMIN: Network outage

2007-01-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/01/2007, at 5:22 PM, Doug wrote: > Charlie wrote: > >> That might be harder. Not impossible. I don't have any old brin-l >> stuff (thanks to my flatmate wiping *everything* off my old pc, >> including my backup drive, while i was travelling). But there should >> be a way to merge old archiv

Re: ADMIN: Dang phone company

2007-01-24 Thread Charlie Bell
On 25/01/2007, at 4:24 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: >> >> My friend had to move his ISP because they couldn't provide the >> level of >> service they promised they'd be able to get him at the location he >> started at. >> >> In 1995. > > > > Well... we did just move. Move back! Move back! Charlie _

Re: ADMIN: Network outage

2007-01-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On 24/01/2007, at 4:05 PM, Doug wrote: > Charlie wrote: > > >> *shrug* It's not something I overly worry about, it's just what I'd >> change given the choice. >> >> Charlie > > I wouldn't care if it was private as long as it was complete. That might be harder. Not impossible. I don't have any ol

Re: ADMIN: Network outage

2007-01-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On 24/01/2007, at 3:23 PM, Doug wrote: > > You may be disturbed to find this then: > [http://www.mail-archive.com/brin-l@mccmedia.com/] I'm not disturbed, I know it's there. I'm also aware it's there when I post. > > I don't completely disagree with you Charlie, but I do like having > the a

Re: ADMIN: Network outage

2007-01-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On 24/01/2007, at 2:51 PM, Doug wrote: > > Any feeling of privacy we might get by not having an archive is a > facade; email is not a very private medium. > > We've almost always been publicly archived here and I can't think > of any problems the list or anyone subscribed to it has encounter

Re: ADMIN: Network outage

2007-01-23 Thread Charlie Bell
On 24/01/2007, at 5:14 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > Lost the list again for about 18 hours... a phone company network > failure of > some sort, which is finally fixed. > > Still trying to find a good hosted solution... the archives are the > biggest > problem. I think I may keep the archives on

Re: New take on Fermi Paradox

2007-01-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 19/01/2007, at 10:37 PM, William T Goodall wrote: > > It is from the Grauniad, a newspaper renowned throughout the world > for its typographical errors.. "Because of a printing error, today's Guardian is full of water..." Charlie GCU The Day Today

Re: The Conversion of John C Wright

2007-01-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/01/2007, at 7:25 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote: >> >> *cough* Something like that... I find your schtick a bit tiresome, >> but not as tiresome as seeing the same couple of people on the same >> couple of lists rise to the same bait every time. > > Shrug, you expect me NOT to criticise a fanati

Re: Cops baffled by mystery object that crashed into home

2007-01-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/01/2007, at 1:46 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: > > Heh! > Why would it be surprising that a solid piece of nickle-iron would > weigh more than a can of soup? It would be very surprising if you've never considered the possibility that stuff can fall out of the sky that's not a bit of a pl

Re: The Conversion of John C Wright

2007-01-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/01/2007, at 1:34 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: > But Wright seems to go far beyond that, he seems to have swallowed > whole and digested the American right wing version of christianity and > it is now a part of his being. I almost expect to see him go on an > anti-evolution rant any day now.

Re: Cops baffled by mystery object that crashed into home

2007-01-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/01/2007, at 1:16 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > Meteorite? > > <> Without a doubt. Melted surface - dead giveaway. Charlie. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The Conversion of John C Wright

2007-01-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 05/01/2007, at 9:13 PM, William T Goodall wrote: >> >> He "certainly" isn't. Strident, forceful and rude, vicious in parody >> and a baiter who goes far too far in getting his rise out of people. > > You calling me a master baiter Charlie? *cough* Something like that... I find your schtick a

Re: The Conversion of John C Wright

2007-01-04 Thread Charlie Bell
On 05/01/2007, at 2:08 PM, Andrew Crystall wrote: > On 5 Jan 2007 at 1:47, William T Goodall wrote: > >> Con men thrive like maggots in the filth of religion. Not to mention >> the abusers, addicts, bullies and other low-lifes it attracts. > > As they do in new age cults, UFO cults, "anti-hate" g

Re: The Conversion of John C Wright

2007-01-04 Thread Charlie Bell
On 05/01/2007, at 1:25 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote: >> >>> A conversion by a highly educated and very decided athiest just >>> seems >>> to be an unusual occurance to me. >> >> I'd be ordering an MRI... I'm also cynical - people who have >> "dramatic conversions" all too often do very well writing

Re: The Conversion of John C Wright

2007-01-04 Thread Charlie Bell
On 05/01/2007, at 8:53 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: > A conversion by a highly educated and very decided athiest just seems > to be an unusual occurance to me. I'd be ordering an MRI... I'm also cynical - people who have "dramatic conversions" all too often do very well writing a book and ta

Re: In Russia, a test of God vs. Darwin

2007-01-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/01/2007, at 2:23 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > ST. PETERSBURG, Russia // This nation's first-ever lawsuit on Charles > Darwin's theory of evolution began with a biology textbook, a bunch > of bananas and a man dressed in a monkey suit. > > And it only got more tangled from there. > > The s

Re: ADMIN: We're really back

2007-01-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/01/2007, at 2:19 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > On 1/3/07, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Cool. So what's the verdict on the emergency list that Charlie >> offered to >> set up? > > > I plan to set up a cron job that copies all the list data to at > least one > other server... but it n

Re: ADMIN: We're really back

2007-01-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/01/2007, at 1:34 PM, Doug wrote: >> >> P.S. Third glitch -- the mail server didn't know to accept mail >> for my >> domain. Dave improved its DNS records and caused this. > > Cool. So what's the verdict on the emergency list that Charlie > offered to set up? Hopefully it won't be ne

Re: ADMIN: Wind!

2006-12-27 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/12/2006, at 4:46 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: > As some of you know, we had a very windy 24 hours here... which > caused a > power outage... and I didn't have the server set up to automatically > restart. It's on again now. > > We will have another list interruption soon, possibly, as I > re

Re: Was religion necessary for developing civilizations?

2006-12-26 Thread Charlie Bell
On 27/12/2006, at 3:44 AM, Gary Nunn wrote: > > A question that came up in a deep, late night conversation > > Was religion a necessary tool for building moral and ethical > standards in > early civilizations or social groups? Or did someone simply invent > the fear > of "Going To Hell"

Re: I'm Baaaack

2006-12-21 Thread Charlie Bell
On 22/12/2006, at 1:02 PM, Jo Anne wrote: > > After being unable to read the list for, I don't know, months now, I > suddenly had the digest appear in my mailbox!! What a great Holiday > present. Shhh. *hides* Charlie Games Maru ___ http://ww

2006 Review: Dover Anniversary

2006-12-20 Thread Charlie Bell
Now the server is back and it's approaching the end of 2006, I thought it time to post a few thoughts on things of interest this year. Anyone else feel like contributing one, jump in! So it's one year on from the Dover decision, which dealt a pretty severe blow to those determined to dilute

Re: The long interruption

2006-12-20 Thread Charlie Bell
On 21/12/2006, at 9:43 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > So... It appears to me that the list is up again. > > Here's the short version of what happened. Ouch. Well, thanks for hosting it, and dealing with the issues. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mai

Re: ADMIN: Testing

2006-12-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/12/2006, at 4:21 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 06/12/2006, at 4:15 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: The list should be working... but is it? It's Schrodinger's List. Charlie. Testing Testing Maru Reply - response in about 20 seconds. That'll do. Charlie Satisfie

Re: ADMIN: Testing

2006-12-05 Thread Charlie Bell
On 06/12/2006, at 4:15 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: The list should be working... but is it? It's Schrodinger's List. Charlie. Testing Testing Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Risk perception and prioritisation synchronicity

2006-11-28 Thread Charlie Bell
i touched on the issue of proportional response - Time seems to be leading with that theme this issue. http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/26/cover.story.tm/index.html Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Afghanistan Re: "Someone Must Tell Them"

2006-11-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/11/2006, at 3:54 PM, jdiebremse wrote: Unfortunately, there is every indication that the force is too small to accomplish the job - there remains too few troops, and of the troops that are there, too few of them are willing to work in the toughest/ most violent areas. Yes, precis

Re: Afghanistan Re: "Someone Must Tell Them"

2006-11-27 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/11/2006, at 6:29 PM, Richard Baker wrote: Charlie said: Much of the world simply isn't able to provide soldiers as most 1st world countries have been cutting back to basically a defence force, and there have been enough "friendly fire" incidents in joint task forces in the past to

Re: Afghanistan Re: "Someone Must Tell Them"

2006-11-27 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/11/2006, at 2:52 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The world was with you on Afghanistan. You should have finished the job properly. Sorry, Charlie, but the world was *not* with us on Afghanistan.Oh sure, they were th

Re: "Someone Must Tell Them"

2006-11-25 Thread Charlie Bell
On 26/11/2006, at 5:28 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 05:13 PM Saturday 11/25/2006, Charlie Bell wrote: The security on planes is still a joke, really. Ceramic razors. Glass bottles in the cabin. And you know that too. (Or maybe you don't. Maybe you have no idea how easy it is to

Re: "Someone Must Tell Them"

2006-11-25 Thread Charlie Bell
On 26/11/2006, at 4:12 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: 'Twas my point. Fair enough. :-) Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: "Someone Must Tell Them"

2006-11-25 Thread Charlie Bell
On 26/11/2006, at 10:31 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On 11/25/06, Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, using this logic, because death from a bombing on an air craft > is a > statistically super-unlikely event, you would no doubt recommend > removing *all* metal detecto

Re: "Someone Must Tell Them"

2006-11-25 Thread Charlie Bell
On 26/11/2006, at 3:19 AM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell charlie@ wrote: And so there are some f*ckers out there who have been responsible for acts of terror causing the deaths of a few h

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