RE: Iraq's Chemical Weapons

2003-04-05 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 12:37 04-04-2003 -0800, Jeffrey Miller wrote: American officials have admitted that the thousands of boxes of white powder they seized north of Baghdad are explosives. Aw. Poor America. Again their evidence for Hussein's WMD's turns out to NOT be evidence for WMD's. Bush-regime Mode

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-05 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 19:32 04-04-2003 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: How two people who consider themselves to be at opposite ends of the political spectrum can be so alike, it is amazing! Well, we *are* at opposite ends of the political spectrum: I consider myself a socialist, while Giorgis is a right-wing

Re: Iraq's Chemical Weapons

2003-04-05 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 19:54 04-04-2003 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: still wondering just *how* they identify mysterious white powders that might be very lethal I can imagine that they'll have some field test kit to check what kind of substance they're dealing with. Chemical composition can be determined with a

Re: SCOUTED: Hearing aids for cats

2003-04-05 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:08 04-04-2003 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: [The question remaining is what to do about all the cats who can hear perfectly well but just don't listen . . . ] Now ask that question again, but replace cats with kids. :-) If you ever develop a product that will solve this problem, you

Re: Rat Olympics, corporations walling off common words (thathave been in use fur hundreds or thousands of years)

2003-04-05 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 23:10 04-04-2003 -0800, Debbi Harrell wrote: Even if I do think it's ridiculous to chase down a tiny group like this for infringement...does the USOC actually fear that people around the world will trek to Nebraska to watch this mighty event? Or spend boodles of money on RO caps, T-shirts and

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-05 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 11:26 05-04-2003 +0100, Richard Baker wrote: Jeroen said: Jeroen Giorgis Delenda Est van Baardwijk Ah, yes: tolerance. Even *my* tolerance has its limits. I will tolerate a lot, but I will not tolerate hate-spewing. Not Giorgis's neverending hate-spewing, not anyone else's hate-spewing.

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-05 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 08:02 05-04-2003 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: Similarity #1 (of hundreds) The comment of hundreds implies there are, at the very minimum, 200 (two hundred) similarities between me and Giorgis. I challenge you to list all of them (or at least, the first 200 of them). If you already know there

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-05 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 08:53 05-04-2003 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: Similarity #327: They both missed similarities #2 through #326 Whew, 327, that was tiring. That's all for now. Thank you for once again reminding us why we should not take you seriously. Jeroen Didn't expect anything else van Baardwijk

RE: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-05 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 13:32 05-04-2003 -0600, John Horn wrote: Jeroen mode You *still* haven't answered my or Jon Gabriel's questions... /Jeroen mode What were the questions again? Jeroen So many messages, so little time van Baardwijk _

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-04 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:37 03-04-2003 +, John Giorgis whined: Please, there is a better way. If you feel the same way that I do, please e-mail the List Admins and ask them to take action against the fundamentally non-serious list-flaming of Jeroen. In the almost five years I've been on Brin-L, I've seen

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-03 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 22:49 02-04-2003 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: Fifteen Iraqi civilians were packed inside the Toyota, officers said, along with as many of their possessions as the jammed vehicle could hold. Ten of them, including five children who appeared to be under 5 years old, were killed on the spot when

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-03 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 14:27 03-04-2003 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: Fifteen Iraqi civilians were packed inside the Toyota, officers said, along with as many of their possessions as the jammed vehicle could hold. Ten of them, including five children who appeared to be under 5 years old, were killed on the spot when

RE: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-03 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:38 03-04-2003 -0500, Damon Agretto wrote: That was humor, right? Not a serious comment, right? If not, you just confirmed the wisdom behind not joining the ICC... I just as well assume Jeroen failed to read my post in response to this. Or ignored it... Neither, actually. Between sending

Re: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-03 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:37 03-04-2003 +, John Giorgis wrote: Everybody, Jeroen is NOT BEING SERIOUS ABOUT THIS!Come on now - no serious person could say something that stupid! Jeroen is *flaming* us. Snipped rest of Giorgis's extensive umpteenth personal attack against me John, please limit yourself to

RE: SCOUTED: US Troops Fire at Civilians in Iraq

2003-04-03 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:35 03-04-2003 -0500, Damon Agretto wrote: Neither, actually. Between sending my original message and hitting Send after writing *this* message, I have received only two messages from you: the one quoted above, and the one about you being a collector and painter of figures. I had sent a

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 07:15 01-04-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: As such, by not launching the war now, if you were George Bush, would you be prepared to bear the following costs of waiting until September to let a dictator whom we know with certainty will try and succeed at hiding *something* from inspectors

Re: New Computer But Still Not Happy

2003-04-02 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:29 02-04-03 +0100, William Goodall wrote: It's the money, really. The 256/64 Kb package is considerably cheaper than cable, and other packages (512/256 and better) are all more expensive than cable. Cable costs EUR 49.95 per month, which I find to be a bit (too) much for what I use

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 07:55 02-04-03 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Sonja van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I think you should stick to attacking arguments and not the poster. And I think your husband could, perhaps, strive harder to avoid giving the impression that he wouldn't particularly regret

RE: New Computer But Still Not Happy

2003-04-02 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:29 02-04-03 +0200, I wrote: Can't compare ADSL vs. cable speed, BTW -- Chello doesn't provide information about their connection speed. But hey, if the ADSL package I got turns out to be too slow, I can always upgrade. Ahh, that's right - ADSL services around me also offer different

Re: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-02 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:43 02-04-03 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: Or, since you work for the Dutch department of defense, if they have reserves who are subject to callup, perhaps you know some of those reserve members who have been called up in the past and you could ask them. So far it has never been necessary

New Computer But Still Not Happy

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
The good part first: bought a new computer last Wednesday. Real nice stuff: P4 2.6 GHz processor, 512 MB RAM, 120 GB harddisk, 128 MB video card, CD/DVD ROM drive, CD-RW/DVD-RW burner, TV/Radio receiver, and connections for literally *anything* that can nowadays be plugged into a computer. It

Re: Israel's Secret Weapon

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:20 26-03-03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: I see. You do not punish criminals in your country. No, Ilana, we *do* punish criminals -- we're just not in the habit of violating their human rights by keeping them in solitary confinement for 15 years. Unlike Israel (apparently), we actually

RE: Israel's Secret Weapon

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:01 27-03-03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: The US has declared for years that the only WMDs we have in our possession are nukes. We don't own or use chemical or biological weapons. At least, none that you know about. The US government has been lying to the public before, so I wouldn't just

Re: UT to have dropout as commencement speaker

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 00:36 28-03-03 +, Jose Ortiz wrote: Going back to my example, Michael Kamen is a top-rated, world-famous composer and conductor. All those young musicians he is *leading* are recently graduated or about to. He didn't finish Julliard. But he has a career. What's the real message here?

Re: Another Evil Empire

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 18:27 30-03-03 +, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Is it true, Jeroen? The Mayor of Amsterdam is _always_ elected with 100% of the votes of those that elect him, namely, one vote from the Queen? In a way, it's true. Mayors here don't get elected but are appointed by the Crown. The appointment

Re: brin: the three laws of robotis are evil, why they must be eradicated

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:50 30-03-03 -0800, David Brin wrote: I have an essay explaining many aspects of the Foundation universe. I thought I had posted it at http://www.davidbrin.com/ but now I can't find it. (Ay of you know where it is?) If one of you would choose to host it, I'll email it over and then you

RE: Israel's Secret Weapon

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 07:28 27-03-03 +0200, Ilana Halupovich wrote: Jeroen If it was later proven to be mass hysteria, I'm sure it would have been mentioned in the documentary. It should have been. If the documentary was trying to be objective, that is. I have no reason to believe that the BBC would be trying to

RE: Israel's Secret Weapon

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 07:47 27-03-03 +0200, Ilana Halupovich wrote: Jeroen asked If a country's arsenal of WMD's is nobody else's business, why did the US consider Iraq's *alleged* arsenal of WMD's a reason to go to war? Because it's crazy enough to use it? And, again, I ask you to check the world map. I *am*

Re: Computer Power Supplies

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 01:13 31-03-03 +, John Giorgis wrote: Eh, I was in Ohio on Saturday figuring all this out anyone, is it really a better idea to buy a whole new case instead of just putting the power supply in my old one? That depends on what you value most: your wallet or the US economy. Buying

RE: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 19:22 31-03-03 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: act has been committed. Hopefully, no one will ever be stupid enough to attempt to destroy New York or anywhere else with weapons of mass destruction - but unfortunately, that's a risk we all have to live with. No. It's a risk _I_ have to live

Re: Number9Dream

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 22:32 31-03-03 -0500, Jim Sharkey wrote: I enjoyed the book, but the ending, and some of the tangents were a bit puzzling. I'm sure this was intentional, but I was wondering to what end it was intentional, if you take my meaning. Er, to provide a starting point for a sequel, perhaps? Just

Re: New Computer But Still Not Happy

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:20 01-04-03 -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: Two new toys, actually: a few days earlier Sonja gave me a digital photo camera for my birthday... :-) No birthday, here, but I just bought a digital camera also (to use for our baby's imminent arrival)... anyway, what'd ya get? HP 720 (3.3

RE: Question for those who are anti-war . . .

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 12:59 01-04-03 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: And you think the rest of the world will not feel (in some way or other) the consequences of US retaliation for the destruction of New York? I think that everything anyone ever wants to say about your politics is encapsulated, Jeroen, in the

Re: whitespace

2003-04-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 14:54 01-04-03 -0600, The Fool wrote: http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/whitespace/ Most modern programming languages do not consider white space characters (spaces, tabs and newlines) syntax, ignoring them, as if they weren't there. We consider this to be a gross injustice to these perfectly

Re: New list members

2003-03-26 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:06 26-03-03 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: I suspect that Brin-l must have received some publicity recently -- we have picked up several new members in the last couple of days. That's a bit of an unusual burst, so I thought I'd say welcome to all of them. New folks, please feel free to

RE: Israel's Secret Weapon

2003-03-25 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 09:18 25-03-03 +0200, Ilana Halupovich wrote: I found the documentary very disturbing. Just to mentions a few things: * For years Israel lied about having a nuclear program (the plant in Dimona where Israel was making plutonium for bombs was said to be a textiles factory). 1. There are

Re: tax cuts for the rich, housing cuts for the poor

2003-03-25 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 09:39 25-03-03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: Mark your history books, liberals have just gone on the record as supporting tax cuts for big business! Where? In Dictator Bush's dividend tax cut. Idiot. When you post anonymously you shouldn't abuse that privilege by insulting listmembers.

Re: Sick and Tired, was Re: Re: From Justice Scalia, aChilling Vision of Religion's Authority in America

2003-03-25 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 08:01 25-03-03 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: Jeroen Sick Tired van Baardwijk Not nearly as sick or tired as the rest of us who have to read this. But you don't *have* to read it -- you could simply ignore messages from me and JDG. Or, if you only want to filter out our replies to each

Re: Sullivan on the BBC

2003-03-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 14:30 23-03-03 -0800, John Giorgis wrote: As an example of how biased NPR is, even by mainstream media standards, while most radio news outfits cover the actual war, NPR seemed to find coverage of the anti-war protests far more interesting - and provided virtually play-by-play coverage.

RE: Oops, Clinton Just Lied Again....

2003-03-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:46 23-03-03 -0600, John Horn wrote: ...in case you still didn't believe that Bill Clinton is and was a compulsive liar Give it a rest. He's not president anymore, remember? You won, OK? Your guy is in office. Boy, Republicans *really* hate that man... It's all plain jealousy, I tell

Re: Music Re: Sullivan on the BBC

2003-03-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:53 23-03-03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: The Friday after 9/11 [..] BBC America was airing a concert from England, something about the end of the Prom (or Proms?), and they did Adagio for Strings in honor of the American tragedy. That was Last Night of the Proms, the closing night of the

Re: Why is the military surprised?

2003-03-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 22:14 23-03-03 -0500, Gary Nunn wrote: The news ticker on MSNBC says that the Military is accusing Iraqi soldiers of dressing in civilian clothes, using civilian vehicles and faking surrender. Well duh. Why would the military think that the Iraqi military would do anything different than

Re: Abortion [was: From Justice Scalia, a Chilling VisionofReligion's Authorityin America]

2003-03-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 14:04 24-03-03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: Here in the UK it's handled as a medical matter, and two doctors signatures are required, etc. Is there any accountability of this? For example, if I am looking for a doctor, can I check how many abortions s/he has signed? Out of curiosity, why

Re: Re: From Justice Scalia, a Chilling Vision of Religion'sAuthority in America

2003-03-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 05:59 24-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: Quit blaming me for you own intellectual laziness. SIGH John, is there even a remote chance that you will ever stop throwing insults at people you disagree with? Do you really believe that you can get your opponents to agree with you if you insult

RE: Israel's Secret Weapon

2003-03-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 10:17 17-03-03 +0200, Ilana Halupovich wrote: Israeli nuclear 'power' exposed By Olenka Frankiel http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/2841377.stm Vaanunu was kidnapped in Rome, not in London. Now if this reporter could not give *one* fact right, why should I think that other

Re: Incest

2003-03-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:55 24-03-03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: BTW, for those interested in the full text of the Many many years ago... joke, see http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~cperlich/areisz/humour/Familyties.htm. Thanks for that. :) It's actually a song. I could probably dig up an MP3 somewhere given enough

Re: Admin reproducing

2003-03-24 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:13 24-03-03 -0600, Marvin Long wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Julia Thompson wrote: I'm pregnant again. Holy #*!! It's an epidemic of sperm poisoning!! GRIN Amazing, isn't it -- the things some people will do to make sure that there will always be a fresh supply of Brin-L members...

Re: War

2003-03-23 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 00:32 23-03-03 +, Andy Crystall wrote: 50 dead in Basra, and 8000 surrender - this doesn't sound right. Even the soldiers of the drug traffic show more bravery The problem is sure you might be holed up in a town. You're surrounded by more soldiers, better trained soldiers, soldiers

Re: Books on Red Hat Linux 7.2

2003-03-22 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 19:15 21-03-03 -0500, Han Tacoma wrote: The reason I explicitly mentioned RH 7.2 is that I recently bought a box set of RH 7.2 Professional on the cheap (EUR 35, down from EUR 235). Given the price I already figured a new version must have been released, but for an absolute newbie who just

Re: .... and now for something completely different

2003-03-22 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:08 21-03-03 -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: Actually, I used obscure reference, because I had no idea if there were any Monty Python fans here and didn't want to seem like a wierdo (or not more than usual anyway) if no one got it. :-) Hey, don't worry about it. If you seem like a weirdo,

Re: Club drops student in pledge dispute

2003-03-22 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:18 21-03-03 -0500, William Taylor wrote: He will receive half of the credits. If he had said under secular humanism, would he have gotten full marks? If he had said under Allah, would he have been expelled from school altogether? Jeroen Religious Observations van Baardwijk

Re: .... and now for something completely obscure.

2003-03-22 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:23 22-03-03 -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: Now if you want obscure Gee dad! No Irishman can keep you from becoming dogkiller this time! 10 Points Clue:I bet you are really proud of your friends at Communist Martyrs High School. Porgie and Mudhead? Jeroen Too easy,

RE: From Justice Scalia, a Chilling Vision of Religion'sAuthority inAmerica

2003-03-22 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:45 22-03-03 +, Andy Crystall wrote: I have a defibate problem with certain sections of Ortherdox Judaism ...as well as with the spelling of it... GRIN Jeroen Casual Observations van Baardwijk _

Re: Something wonderful happened today...

2003-03-21 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 22:12 20-03-03 -0500, Matthew Bos wrote: Here name is: Anneka Marie Bos She's 6 pounds 4 ounces, Nineteen and a half inches long. Born at 1:32 on Thursday CONGRATULATIONS!!! :-) First child? Mother and daughter are doing fine. Father is a nervous wreck. Been there, done that. Don't

Re: Something wonderful happened today...

2003-03-21 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 01:17 21-03-03 -0500, William Taylor wrote: In-between two Something wonderful replies was a SPAM message for Maintain Your Septic Tank Properly. Download and install MailWasher. That's what I did, and it works great. Spam? What spam? www.mailwasher.com Jeroen Tech Support van Baardwijk

Books on Red Hat Linux 7.2

2003-03-21 Thread J. van Baardwijk
I am considering buying two books on Red Hat Linux 7.2: - Red Hat Linux 7.2: The Complete Reference, Second Edition Author: Richard Petersen http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072191783 - Red Hat Linux 7.2 Bible Unlimited Edition (With CD-ROM) Author: Christopher Negus

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-21 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 11:47 21-03-03 -0500, Damon Agretto wrote: Problem with Brin-L and my desire to keep up with other lists is that, invariably, I get way behind! Quit those other lists, then. I mean, when you have Brin-L, why would you need any other lists? :-) Jeroen Brin-L Propaganda van Baardwijk

Re: France's influence

2003-03-21 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:27 17-03-03 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote: Jeroen wrote: Come Sunday, I will have been living in The Netherlands for the last 36 years. Does this mean you have a birthday coming up? If so, happy birthday! Yep. T minus 29-years-and-two-days till retirement. :-) Jeroen Oldtimer van

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-21 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 12:13 21-03-03 -0500, Damon Agretto wrote: Quit those other lists, then. I mean, when you have Brin-L, why would you need any other lists? :-) Well, Jeroen, if Brin-L can supply my gaming fix then you'd have a valid point! Anyone want to talk about Fading Suns RPG or Battletech? :) All is

RE: Books on Red Hat Linux 7.2

2003-03-21 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:09 21-03-03 -0500, Gary Nunn wrote: Jeroen, Check out www.abebooks.com before you buy from Amazon. Thanks Gary! That was indeed a very useful suggestion! :-) I paid them a quick visit and found both titles there (albeit from two different sellers, which means higher SH). I didn't make

Re: France's influence

2003-03-20 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:39 17-03-03 +, John Giorgis wrote: Uhhh. I don't know how Dutch dictionaries work, but in English dictionary definitions are *OR* propositions, not *AND* propositions. For example, please visit the dictionary definition of the English word heart:

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-20 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:19 18-03-03 +, John Giorgis wrote: First question for you - do they have to irradiate the mail in your office because several people in *your* city have _died_ from anthrax? Didn't think so. How can you be sure that they don't irradiate the mail over here? I'm not sure if they *are*

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-20 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:25 18-03-03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: With all those security measures in place, and with all that military hardware in position around DC, it is probably one of the safest urban areas in the country right now... Given all those security measures, chances are that I am taking more risk

Re: .... and now for something completely different

2003-03-20 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 13:13 19-03-03 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: I don't know how it would work in your yard, or in your climate, or with your palate, but rosemary is a pretty and useful ornamental bush The biggest problem with rosemary is neither our yard itself, nor the climate, nor the palate. The

Re: France's influence

2003-03-18 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:00 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: Then how would you describe countries like The Netherlands, Belgium, the UK and Spain? These are all monarchies and they are all democratic. Constitutional monarchies. They are not democracies because there is not a direct rule of the majority. When

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-18 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:33 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: What risk would that be? The only action he is involved in is posting Bush-regime propaganda to a mailing list; what risks he is exposing himself to by doing that (other than having his arguments shot to barrels time and time again)? He lives in the

Re: Nation States

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 19:10 16-03-03 -0500, Gary Nunn wrote: So who all is still playing Nation States? raises hand I'm still in the game, although the game has horribly little gameplay. Keeping the relevant page on my website up-to-date ( www.brin-l.com [Fun Games] ) is more time-consuming than the actual

Re: Re: Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 18:24 16-03-03 -0600, Ronn Blankenship wrote: Er, John, I think you need to read up on how a democracy works. In a democracy, decisions are not made by the populace but by the politicians that were elected by the populace. No, that is the definition of a _republic_. That's not entirely

RE: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 19:20 16-03-03 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: If the US was under such occupation, what would happen? Well, I hope to God that if I wasn't dead, I'd be helping to smuggle Jews out of the country, and I'm confident that the rest of the population would do the same. That's very unlikely. It is

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:37 17-03-03 +, John Giorgis wrote: That's not entirely correct. In The Netherlands, our politicians have been elected by the populace, and decisions are made by those politicians. However, The Netherlands is NOT a republic -- it's a democracy (with a constitutional monarchy). Are

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:39 17-03-03 +, John Giorgis wrote: If the US was under such occupation, what would happen? Well, I hope to God that if I wasn't dead, I'd be helping to smuggle Jews out of the country, and I'm confident that the rest of the population would do the same. That's very unlikely. It

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:11 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: Absolutely. Come Sunday, I will have been living in The Netherlands for the last 36 years. I can assure you that our politicians have been elected (two elections so far this year), and I can assure you that if my country would be a republic, I

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:30 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: So, a republic does not have a monarch. The Netherlands does have a monarch, therefore The Netherlands is not a republic. Q.E.D. But, it isn't a democracy either. Democracies don't have monarchs. Then how would you describe countries like The

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 15:34 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: No, spoken like someone who knows that with most people in such a situation, their survival instinct kicks in and takes over. But, Gautam provided plenty of counterexamples in other countries where the Nazis attacked. Examples where people's lives

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:39 17-03-03 +, John Giorgis wrote: So, a republic does not have a monarch. The Netherlands does have a monarch, therefore The Netherlands is not a republic. Q.E.D. Uhhh. I don't know how Dutch dictionaries work, but in English dictionary definitions are *OR* propositions, not

Re: France's influence

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:05 17-03-03 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: So, a republic does not have a monarch. The Netherlands does have a monarch, therefore The Netherlands is not a republic. Q.E.D. Uhhh. I don't know how Dutch dictionaries work, but in English dictionary definitions are *OR* propositions, not

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-17 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 16:56 17-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: Moderate risk? It was a _major_ risk. A HUGE risk. People who were discovered protecting Jews were treated like Jews. They risked not only their own lives but those of their families. They may have been cowards but I can understand their fear.

Israel's Secret Weapon

2003-03-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:20 15-03-03 +, Andy Crystall wrote: Consider - if he does develop WMD and uses them against Israel, Bagdad will be glassed. That is, frankly, the future alternative to a war now. Speaking of Israel and WMD's... Tonight on _Correspondent_ (BBC Two, 19:15 GMT): Israel's Secret Weapon.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a callto the irregulars!]

2003-03-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:35 15-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: You're in for a disappointment then. I have it on good authority that anti-Americanism had nothing to do with my criticism. * Whose authority, yours? Heh. Believe me Jeroen, your doing exactly what I would expect of you is hardly a

Re: Re: France's influence

2003-03-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:40 15-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: I was talking about the opinion of people. In a January Gallup poll, the last one I could find, the numbers were: ** Again, though, I definitely believe that those numbers are skewed by the presence

Re: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 13:26 16-03-03 +, Andy Crystall wrote: France has a VERY strong Neo-Nazi majority, especially at present. ^ /me doesn't bother to answer. sigh minority. I've been up for ~30 hours. If you want to be an idiot, be an idiot. Nothing I don't

Re: Israel's Secret Weapon

2003-03-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:21 16-03-03 +0100, I wrote: Tonight on _Correspondent_ (BBC Two, 19:15 GMT): Israel's Secret Weapon. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/2837671.stm The United States and Britain are preparing to wage war on Iraq, for its undisclosed weapons of mass destruction. Israel's

Re: Re: Re: France's influence

2003-03-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 11:12 16-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: Er, John, I think you need to read up on how a democracy works. In a democracy, decisions are not made by the populace but by the politicians that were elected by the populace. ROTFLOL! You crack me

Re: RE: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 11:05 16-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: There's also the matter of French preservation of language and culture. It is a country where it can be illegal to use a foreign word in business. When computers first became widely available, phrases such as le software and le hardware came into

RE: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 11:19 16-03-03 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: People are so... weird. Nah. All of us are normal, it's just you who's weird. :-) Jeroen Jokes'R'Us van Baardwijk _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website:

RE: Corrected French history (was RE: Deadlier Than War)

2003-03-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 12:37 16-03-03 -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: Mais tu parles l'histoire Francais comme un imbecile arrogant, pour je parle francais aussi. It's been twenty years since my last French class, but somewhat to my surprise I had no problem translating that sentence to English. I could also tell

Re: Israel's Secret Weapon

2003-03-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 17:21 16-03-03 +0100, I wrote: Tonight on _Correspondent_ (BBC Two, 19:15 GMT): Israel's Secret Weapon. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/2837671.stm The United States and Britain are preparing to wage war on Iraq, for its undisclosed weapons of mass destruction. Israel's

Changes At The Top -- March 16, 2003

2003-03-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
Once again, there has been some moving-around in the Top-10 of the Alpha-Mail Statistics. 1. Julia Thompson 5,378 2. John Giorgis 4,326 3. Jeroen van Baardwijk 3,987 4. Dan Minette3,259 (switched places with Gord Sellar) 5. Gord Sellar3,248

Fwd: my website's up!

2003-03-16 Thread J. van Baardwijk
The long-time listmembers will remember one of the most prolific members from Brin-L's past: Gord Sax Sellar. It took a while, but he finally got himself a web presence: Hey everyone. I just thought I would announce two things; the first is that after several weeks of busy work, my website is

Re: Replacing the UN Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 18:28 14-03-03 -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: Although I really prefer to go for the third option: an improved UN where each country has one vote, where no country has veto power so that no country can force its will upon others, and where all decisions are made by all members, not a small

Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call to the irregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 03:01 15-03-03 +, Jose Ortiz wrote: First of all, let me state for the record that our national pastime is just that: politics. We eat/breathe politics 24/7. Sounds like a wonderful place for Gautam to live... :-) We have under the umbrella of both our constitution and the US

Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:26 14-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: I do however think that keeping the pressure on high, while conducting further peacefull inspections is probably the best bet for improvement in the region. Then again I don't see how the US will be prevented from going for the price... oops I mean ...

Re: Re: Commentary on French-bashing

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 21:44 14-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: If France can prevent the war from happening, than it *has* effectively protected American soldiers. After all, when there is no war, the risk to a soldier's life is significantly less than when that soldier goes into combat.

Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 06:05 15-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: Yeah, so? There were plenty of voices saying that war was a bad idea. The Bush regime decided to ignore those voices and set the stage for war anyway. If the Bush regime is foolish enough to ignore good advice, it shouldn't complain about the costs.

Double postings (was Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?)

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 06:11 15-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: snip content Er, John, is there a reason why you are sending each (or at least: most) of your messages to the list *twice*? Jeroen Casual Observations van Baardwijk _

Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 09:35 15-03-03 -0500, JDG insultingly wrote: The UN Resolution says serious consequences, it doesn't say war. The consequence war is merely America's interpretation of the phrase serious consequences; the various UN members are not in agreement about the how it should be interpreted.

Re: Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call to theirregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 09:44 15-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: BTW, I'd just like to point out, that the quintessential example of Anti-Americanism is criticism of America's treatment of Puerto Rico. SIGH For the umpteenth time, John, criticism of the US does NOT equal anti-Americanism. I also criticise the

Re: Re: Re: Tropical US Politics [Was Re: br!n: Re: a call tothe irregulars!]

2003-03-15 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 11:29 15-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: BTW, I'd just like to point out, that the quintessential example of Anti-Americanism is criticism of America's treatment of Puerto Rico. Jeroen wrote: But hey, here's a challenge for you: prove beyond reasonable doubt that criticism of America's

Re: Replacing the UN Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-14 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 23:39 12-03-03 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: BTW - Jeroen - a constitutional monarchy is a form of republican government How's that? Under a population-based system, China's population should be measured as being approximately 5,000. This is the number of people who are actually

Re: Who is the sheriff?

2003-03-14 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 23:45 12-03-03 -0600, Dan Minette wrote: Germany has proportional representation. If there are two big parties, each with 47.5% of the legislature, then a party with 5% can claim a pretty high price to make one of the two parties the top dog. In theory, yes, but that's not how it works in

  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   >