RE: Online games (was: Xbox 360)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Crystall Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:04 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Online games (was: Xbox 360) On 8 May 2006 at 15:07, Nick Lidster wrote: Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on the console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see what games that you all play online. Eve Online. Maya Rkell of Jericho Fraction... Andy Catching up a week of 11 hour workdays Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l Wow, I tried out the 14 day trial and thought it was rather good, but not exactly my cup of tea. Has anyone tried out Silk Road Online? Or has anyone seen the info on middle earth online build your own house! Or even resident evil online mmm brains.. hehe that one Is going to be amazing! Myself I play mostly FPS, really only Day of Defeat, and Day of Defeat: Source. Really great games! Lately I have been dipping into the Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter.. im totally in love with that game. Nick Tango Down Lidster ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jim said: Do you think Banks actually *likes* the Culture? That is, the couple of his Culture books I've read have generally shown the nasty underside of his outwardly Utopian society. I think that in his early books, Banks was unusually honest about the underpinnings of his utopia, both in terms of its occasional disregard for individuals in favour of more statistical improvements and of its economy being based essentially on magical free energy. Unfortunately, some of the later ones seem to have somewhat diluted that honesty or at least shifted the focus somewhat. I'm pretty sure he'd choose the Culture over almost any other conceivable society though. Rich GSV Statistical Improvements ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie said: But yes, that's the idea of the books, I think. Let's face it, the vast vast majority of the Culture's citizens (both flesh and machine) live happy hedonistic lives - it's the edges where the Culture meets other civs and the underbelly where people conduct nefarious schemes where the interesting stories are going to happen. One puzzling thing is that Banks advances arguments, most notably in A Few Notes on the Culture, that something like the Culture is a very strong attractor for space-based civilisations in the limit of increasing technology. Given this, why are there other societies with generally equivalent technology that differ markedly from the Culture in terms of social organisation? The Homomdans, for example, have ships and I'm pretty sure also Minds, and yet are an old-fashioned Empire so far as I recall. Indeed, except for Culture offshoots like the Zetetic Elench there's no mention of any other civilisations that even approximate to the Culture's social model. Could it be that all such cultures are assimilated into the Culture itself? Rich GCU Hedonism Gradient ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 5/10/06, Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charlie said: But yes, that's the idea of the books, I think. Let's face it, the vast vast majority of the Culture's citizens (both flesh and machine) live happy hedonistic lives - it's the edges where the Culture meets other civs and the underbelly where people conduct nefarious schemes where the interesting stories are going to happen. One puzzling thing is that Banks advances arguments, most notably in A Few Notes on the Culture, that something like the Culture is a very strong attractor for space-based civilisations in the limit of increasing technology. Given this, why are there other societies with generally equivalent technology that differ markedly from the Culture in terms of social organisation? The Homomdans, for example, have ships and I'm pretty sure also Minds, and yet are an old-fashioned Empire so far as I recall. Indeed, except for Culture offshoots like the Zetetic Elench there's no mention of any other civilisations that even approximate to the Culture's social model. Could it be that all such cultures are assimilated into the Culture itself? Rich GCU Hedonism Gradient If I remember correctly, the Culture is a fuzzy political entity at best. Culture like societies are Culture, unless they decide not to be and then they have to keep saying that yes, they're exactly like Culture, but they're not and the Culture itself doesn't care one way or the other. Jean-Louis ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: The Culture (was Re: Xbox 360)
Jim Sharkey wrote: _Consider Phlebas_ and _A Player of Games_ Cool. The next two (_Use Of Weapons_ and _Excession_) are great too. I've heard good and bad about UoW, that it's an aggravating book in some ways. Excession I don't know much about at all. Hmm, _UoW_ is definitely worth a read. Even if you can see certain things before Banksie wants you to see them. It is also a rather dark book. _Excession_ ,otoh, was a book which made me laugh out loud many, many times. I think it just might be my favourite Culture novel. Ritu ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Online games (was: Xbox 360)
Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on the console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see what games that you all play online. I used to play Counter Strike, Day of Defeat, Natural Selection and Science Industry. All of these are first person shooters (FPS) and they are also all team-based games in which cooperation and team-play are important. In NS and SI perhaps a bit more than in CS and DoD. One challenge in these games is to find game servers with nice, friendly, honest people with whom it's fun to play with. The team aspect often allows weaker playerrs to integrate with stronger ones. A totally different online game which I used play (and ocassionally still play) is Kingdom of Loathing (KoL). It's a FREE browser-based role playing game. Quite a bit of fun. The graphics are crappy, because they are MEANT to be crappy. KoL is sort of a parody on other role playing games. http://www.kingdomofloathing.com Some information about KoL in-game items can be found here: http://www.KoLDBase.com - a wiki set up to aid the beginner in his endevor to master the tasks which await him/her in the Kindom of Loathing. Yup, shameless plug, this. :-) Best regards, Klaus, WikiSysop of KoLDBase ;) _ This mail sent using V-webmail - http://www.v-webmail.orgg ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: The Culture (was Re: Xbox 360)
Ritu wrote: Hmm, _UoW_ is definitely worth a read. Even if you can see certain things before Banksie wants you to see them. It is also a rather dark book. _Excession_ ,otoh, was a book which made me laugh out loud many, many times. I think it just might be my favourite Culture novel. I guess I'll have to add them to the pile then, which creates a Julia- like problem for me, since the pile is expanding quickly. I recently changed jobs and went from commuting by train to commuting by car. It's drastically cutting into my reading time here! I was doing about a book a week, in addition to my SI and Time and comics before the change. Now? Maybe thirty minutes at lunch, tops. Stupid work. :) Jim Library card Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Online games (was: Xbox 360)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Sharkey Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:45 PM To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: RE: Online games (was: Xbox 360) Nick Lidster wrote: Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on the console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see what games that you all play online. I used to be a *fanatical* StarCraft player. My brother is trying to get me to play DDO, since he's all the way in Utah, but otherwise I just don't have the time. Jim Three kids, three baseball teams Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l DDO? Dungeons and Dragons Online? Or was this a typo and you meant to say DoD, Day of Defeat ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Nick Lidser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to be a *fanatical* StarCraft player. My brother is trying to get me to play DDO, since he's all the way in Utah, but otherwise I just don't have the time. DDO? Dungeons and Dragons Online? Or was this a typo and you meant to say DoD, Day of Defeat ROFL! So many TLAs to choose from... :-) - Klaus _ This mail sent using V-webmail - http://www.v-webmail.orgg ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Nick Lidser wrote: DDO? Dungeons and Dragons Online? Or was this a typo and you meant to say DoD, Day of Defeat Dungeons and Dragons Online. It's tempting to try it, since I don't have time to play live PP DD right now, but I have to think about it a little more. Has anyone tried it out? Jim I roll 20's Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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I have. Utterly unimpressed. It tries to play the game faithfully, with the end result that actual gameplay suffers. Add to the fact that graphics are dull and it's set in Ebberon (a sort of Magepunk setting...a love it or hate it situation) really kills the game, despite the fact I'm a long time DD player... Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: Trumpeter's Marder I auf GW 38(h) Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld. Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld. -Original Message- From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:01:57 To:brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: RE: Online games (was: Xbox 360) Nick Lidser wrote: DDO? Dungeons and Dragons Online? Or was this a typo and you meant to say DoD, Day of Defeat Dungeons and Dragons Online. It's tempting to try it, since I don't have time to play live PP DD right now, but I have to think about it a little more. Has anyone tried it out? Jim I roll 20's Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Online games (was: Xbox 360)
Jim Sharkey wrote: Nick Lidser wrote: DDO? Dungeons and Dragons Online? Or was this a typo and you meant to say DoD, Day of Defeat Dungeons and Dragons Online. It's tempting to try it, since I don't have time to play live PP DD right now, but I have to think about it a little more. Has anyone tried it out? Dan was in an online campaign with a friend of ours doing DM'ing, all the players were friends of *his*; the campaign died when one of the players did. :( (One of the other guys, who'd been that guy's best friend for years, didn't have the heart to continue, and the remaining players couldn't pull it off all that well without them.) Brian got Dan set up with a number of good tools for handling online play, and it was working really well for them -- pick a time about every other week when everyone could dedicate about 3 hours to it, play, don't have the hassle of GOING somewhere and dealing with someone else's cats and forgetting one of your books and (Dan got spoiled by the telecommuting bit well before this.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
On 08/05/2006, at 7:49 AM, Dave Land wrote: On May 7, 2006, at 8:06 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: snip a bit of self-loathing over liking the Xbox (Friends being parlance meaning OK to play with -- real human friendships are based in a lot more than game theory. Right?) Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. LOL! No, just some evidence. Like, a person who acts fairly consistently towards one and doesn't do things that upset one too often and actually makes an effort to make one feel wanted back. That sort of thing. Online friendships work the same as in real life ones, in that we constantly re-evaluate them. Looking for evidence and requiring proof (or indeed, a double-blind test) aren't the same things at all. And being cynical about religion does not imply cynicism about people generally. Given that I'm getting married to someone I actually met on this very list... ;o) Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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OK, so I'm mamaEffword. You? On May 7, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: Given that I'm getting married to someone I actually met on this very list... ;o) -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Storms_on_a_Flat_Placid_Sea.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On May 7, 2006, at 11:17 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: Given that I'm getting married to someone I actually met on this very list... ;o) On 08/05/2006, at 9:28 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: OK, so I'm mamaEffword. You? No, not an XBox Live user - can't justify the expense right now (and my PS2 still has legs). Brin List, I met my other half here on Brin List. I can see where I might have been less ambiguous in my previous post. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie Bell wrote: I met my other half here on Brin List. At the risk of sounding like an old washerwoman, about whom are we speaking here? Do we need to send presents? :-) Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 3:09 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: I met my other half here on Brin List. At the risk of sounding like an old washerwoman, about whom are we speaking here? Claire. She was briefly on Brin-L in late 2000, during the Culture List invasion. I tagged along there after, and have been a regular on Culture List ever since (um, check my current email address... ;) ). I went to stay with Claire in Melbourne in 2001, she came to Cyprus in 2002, I stayed with her again for the start of Trikeabout in 2005, and now we're tying the knot (or zipping the zip-tie, in the modern world I guess) on 1st Sept... paperwork permitting... Do we need to send presents? :-) If you like! Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie Bell wrote: Claire. She was briefly on Brin-L in late 2000, during the Culture List invasion. Ahh. I joined sometime around that time as well, so I don't have a great recollection of who was around then. I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) I tagged along there after, and have been a regular on Culture List ever since (um, check my current email address... ;) ). Do you think Banks actually *likes* the Culture? That is, the couple of his Culture books I've read have generally shown the nasty underside of his outwardly Utopian society. I went to stay with Claire in Melbourne in 2001, she came to Cyprus in 2002, I stayed with her again for the start of Trikeabout in 2005, and now we're tying the knot (or zipping the zip-tie, in the modern world I guess) on 1st Sept... paperwork permitting... Impressive, making a long term, long distance relationship work! Must have taken a great deal of effort. Congratulations! Do we need to send presents? :-) If you like! *Checks wallet, moths fly out* Would you settle for well-wishes? :) Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 3:40 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Claire. She was briefly on Brin-L in late 2000, during the Culture List invasion. Ahh. I joined sometime around that time as well, so I don't have a great recollection of who was around then. I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) Red Queen, eh? :) I tagged along there after, and have been a regular on Culture List ever since (um, check my current email address... ;) ). Do you think Banks actually *likes* the Culture? That is, the couple of his Culture books I've read have generally shown the nasty underside of his outwardly Utopian society. Which have you read? But yes, that's the idea of the books, I think. Let's face it, the vast vast majority of the Culture's citizens (both flesh and machine) live happy hedonistic lives - it's the edges where the Culture meets other civs and the underbelly where people conduct nefarious schemes where the interesting stories are going to happen. In fact, only Look to Windward really takes place within the Culture as such, the others are all outside or so far above the conception of Joe Culture that they might as well be. I went to stay with Claire in Melbourne in 2001, she came to Cyprus in 2002, I stayed with her again for the start of Trikeabout in 2005, and now we're tying the knot (or zipping the zip-tie, in the modern world I guess) on 1st Sept... paperwork permitting... Impressive, making a long term, long distance relationship work! Must have taken a great deal of effort. Congratulations! Never easy. And we did spend a chunk in the middle there technically single. But cheers. :) Do we need to send presents? :-) If you like! *Checks wallet, moths fly out* Would you settle for well-wishes? :) Of course. :D Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie Bell wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) Red Queen, eh? :) I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no idea to what that reference joke actually refers. Do you think Banks actually *likes* the Culture? That is, the couple of his Culture books I've read have generally shown the nasty underside of his outwardly Utopian society. Which have you read? _Consider Phlebas_ and _A Player of Games_ But yes, that's the idea of the books, I think. Let's face it, the vast majority of the Culture's citizens (both flesh and machine) live happy hedonistic lives - it's the edges where the Culture meets other civs and the underbelly where people conduct nefarious schemes I've generally thought of it as Western society writ large, wherein the government, such as the Culture has, does nasty things that their citizens would never actually imagine them doing. I mean, most Americans view our country as the guys with the white hats, and I'd like to think they're disturbed by some of the ugly things coming to light right now. Though maybe I'm giving them too much credit... Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 5:32 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) Red Queen, eh? :) I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no idea to what that reference joke actually refers. The Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, who ran as fast as she could just to stay in the same place. :) Do you think Banks actually *likes* the Culture? That is, the couple of his Culture books I've read have generally shown the nasty underside of his outwardly Utopian society. Which have you read? _Consider Phlebas_ and _A Player of Games_ Cool. The next two (_Use Of Weapons_ and _Excession_) are great too. But yes, that's the idea of the books, I think. Let's face it, the vast majority of the Culture's citizens (both flesh and machine) live happy hedonistic lives - it's the edges where the Culture meets other civs and the underbelly where people conduct nefarious schemes I've generally thought of it as Western society writ large, wherein the government, such as the Culture has, does nasty things that their citizens would never actually imagine them doing. Mebbe. It's worth reading A Few Notes On The Culture... I ought to put it up on culturelist.org really. It's probably in the Culture Data Repository though. (http://cdr.culturelist.org) I mean, most Americans view our country as the guys with the white hats, and I'd like to think they're disturbed by some of the ugly things coming to light right now. Though maybe I'm giving them too much credit... White hats? What, like the Klan you mean? ;) I agree with you - more and more Americans seem to be slowly coming to the conclusion that something is rotten in the states... (apologies to Will Shakespeare there). http://www.kabc.com/mcintyre/listingsEntry.asp? ID=432586PT=McIntyre%2Bin%2Bthe%2BMorning for example. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On May 7, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Dave Land wrote: Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. Or, one could say that friendship requires some faith in the other person. :-) Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie Bell wrote: On 08/05/2006, at 5:32 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) Red Queen, eh? :) I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no idea to what that reference joke actually refers. The Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, who ran as fast as she could just to stay in the same place. :) Actually, Through the Looking Glass. http://www.cs.indiana.edu/metastuff/looking/ch2.html.gz is the chapter in question. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 6:28 PM, Dan Minette wrote: On May 7, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Dave Land wrote: Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. Or, one could say that friendship requires some faith in the other person. One could. But honestly, do you trust someone without *any* prior knowledge of how they're likely to act? Of course not. Trust is earned, on the most part, and faith in someone is a synonym for trust, not for unevidenced belief. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie Bell wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no idea to what that reference joke actually refers. The Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, who ran as fast as she could just to stay in the same place. :) My first thought was that it was an Alice reference, but I've never read the actual books and didn't know that was part of her character. _Consider Phlebas_ and _A Player of Games_ Cool. The next two (_Use Of Weapons_ and _Excession_) are great too. I've heard good and bad about UoW, that it's an aggravating book in some ways. Excession I don't know much about at all. I've generally thought of it as Western society writ large, wherein the government, such as the Culture has, does nasty things that their citizens would never actually imagine them doing. Mebbe. It's worth reading A Few Notes On The Culture... I ought to put it up on culturelist.org really. It's probably in the Culture Data Repository though. (http://cdr.culturelist.org) I'll try to check it out some time. I mean, most Americans view our country as the guys with the white hats, and I'd like to think they're disturbed by some of the ugly things coming to light right now. I agree with you - more and more Americans seem to be slowly coming to the conclusion that something is rotten in the states... I hope so. But there's always the yahoo factor here. That is to say, there's enough yahoos that refuse to even consider the possibility that the US is, on occasion, the bad guy, that real change may be a while coming. I still think we're *generally* the good guys, but the folks running the show right now are working hard to make us look like Snidely Whiplash, using 9/11 as an excuse for all manner of things that sound, to me at least, downright un-American. Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 6:28 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: On 08/05/2006, at 5:32 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) Red Queen, eh? :) I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no idea to what that reference joke actually refers. The Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, who ran as fast as she could just to stay in the same place. :) Actually, Through the Looking Glass. http://www.cs.indiana.edu/metastuff/looking/ch2.html.gz is the chapter in question. Ta. I did know that, I was just being lazy by referring to the stories as a whole as Alice in Wonderland when they're not actually called that... :) Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 6:41 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: I agree with you - more and more Americans seem to be slowly coming to the conclusion that something is rotten in the states... I hope so. But there's always the yahoo factor here. That is to say, there's enough yahoos that refuse to even consider the possibility that the US is, on occasion, the bad guy, that real change may be a while coming. I still think we're *generally* the good guys, I think it's impossible to classify countries in that way. The more I learn about international relations, the less I feel that they're anything to do with good and bad, and the more I feel that they're inextricably linked to pure self-interest on the parts of the politicians. *sigh* But yes, I think that many Americans aspire to the right thing, it's just a shame that so many have little or no clue about the world beyond their borders (county borders sometimes!), and that they keep throwing the dross to the top of the pile. but the folks running the show right now are working hard to make us look like Snidely Whiplash, using 9/11 as an excuse for all manner of things that sound, to me at least, downright un-American. Question: does the situation with Bush's bizarre lack of vetos and excessive use of signing statements make any of the Merkins onlist nervous? Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on the console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see what games that you all play online. nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Charlie Bell wrote: On 08/05/2006, at 6:28 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: On 08/05/2006, at 5:32 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: I was too busy trying to get up to speed. Sometimes, I feel like I'm still trying. :) Red Queen, eh? :) I could just laugh along and pretend I got that; however, I have no idea to what that reference joke actually refers. The Red Queen in Alice in Wonderland, who ran as fast as she could just to stay in the same place. :) Actually, Through the Looking Glass. http://www.cs.indiana.edu/metastuff/looking/ch2.html.gz is the chapter in question. Ta. I did know that, I was just being lazy by referring to the stories as a whole as Alice in Wonderland when they're not actually called that... :) Oh, that's fine, I just felt like being pedantic and mildly useful all at once. I appreciate your giving me the opportunity to be so. :D Julia who once could recite a German translation of the first verse of Jabberwocky and did so ad nauseum ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Nick Lidster wrote: Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on the console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see what games that you all play online. I used to be a *fanatical* StarCraft player. My brother is trying to get me to play DDO, since he's all the way in Utah, but otherwise I just don't have the time. Jim Three kids, three baseball teams Maru ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on the console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see what games that you all play online. Only World of Warcraft at the time. Most of my RW friends play on it, so it was a natural... Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: EE's BRDM-1 Recce Vehicle -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.4/332 - Release Date: 5/4/2006 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 08/05/2006, at 8:37 PM, Nick Lidster wrote: Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on the console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see what games that you all play online Played some Combat Flight Sim and Black White in the past, ran a Freelancer server for a bit. Obviously Unreal Tournament! Civ 4 PBEM at the mo! Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:21 AM Subject: Re: Xbox 360 On 08/05/2006, at 3:09 PM, Jim Sharkey wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: I met my other half here on Brin List. At the risk of sounding like an old washerwoman, about whom are we speaking here? Claire. She was briefly on Brin-L in late 2000, during the Culture List invasion. I tagged along there after, and have been a regular on Culture List ever since (um, check my current email address... ;) ). I went to stay with Claire in Melbourne in 2001, she came to Cyprus in 2002, I stayed with her again for the start of Trikeabout in 2005, and now we're tying the knot (or zipping the zip-tie, in the modern world I guess) on 1st Sept... paperwork permitting... Do we need to send presents? :-) If you like! G Actually I'd testify anyday that Claire is is pretty cool! And a hell of a lot of fun to argue with. The gal aint no pushover! Well..that's what I always liked about her.G It is the worlds great misfortune that she tends to be quiet online these days. xponent *The* Claire Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
- Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Xbox 360 FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360, and do you want to come and play? Now you know whom to address. ;) LOL..I bought my son a 360 for his birthday in March and it sits on the floor in his room unused. I haven't played it myself, but I might get a roundtuit one of these days. xponent 360 Voyeur Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
On 09/05/2006, at 12:59 AM, Xponent wrote: G Actually I'd testify anyday that Claire is is pretty cool! And a hell of a lot of fun to argue with. The gal aint no pushover! Well..that's what I always liked about her.G All true. :) It is the worlds great misfortune that she tends to be quiet online these days. Yes. It's just stupidly busy. She is blogging a bit. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
On 09/05/2006, at 1:03 AM, Xponent wrote: - Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Xbox 360 FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360, and do you want to come and play? Now you know whom to address. ;) LOL..I bought my son a 360 for his birthday in March and it sits on the floor in his room unused. That's just tragic *subliminal message*post it to charlie*/subliminal message* Awful. Terrible. Youth of today etc... Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
- Original Message - From: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: Re: Xbox 360 On 09/05/2006, at 1:03 AM, Xponent wrote: - Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Xbox 360 FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360, and do you want to come and play? Now you know whom to address. ;) LOL..I bought my son a 360 for his birthday in March and it sits on the floor in his room unused. That's just tragic *subliminal message*post it to charlie*/subliminal message* Awful. Terrible. Youth of today etc... Oh it gets worse! My son may be the best son in the world but he has recently started on about wanting a Playstation 3. I suppose so that it can keep the 360 company. xponent What Consoles Do When You Are Away Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
On May 8, 2006, at 3:03 PM, Xponent wrote: FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360, and do you want to come and play? Now you know whom to address. ;) LOL..I bought my son a 360 for his birthday in March and it sits on the floor in his room unused. What? You mean he … gasp … HAS A LIFE? Oh my my my, this will not do, not at all. I haven't played it myself, but I might get a roundtuit one of these days. Check out Oblivion. Extremely addictive, but alas, no online play side to it at all. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Storms_on_a_Flat_Placid_Sea.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
Xponent wrote: - Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Xbox 360 FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360, and do you want to come and play? Now you know whom to address. ;) LOL..I bought my son a 360 for his birthday in March and it sits on the floor in his room unused. I haven't played it myself, but I might get a roundtuit one of these days. OK, now I need to make a roundtuit and send it to Rob. :D Julia might be able to get someone to cut me a good circle on Wednesday, hm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Online games (was: Xbox 360)
On Behalf Of Nick Lidster Well with the expression of interest in gaming that was put forth on the console side of things, I figured it was just as well to see what games that you all play online. City of Heroes/City of Villians. Played a little of the Auto Assault beta and a couple of free weeks of Matrix Online and Star Wars Galaxies. Always went back to CoH/CoV. Of course, I'm hip deep in Elder Scrolls: Oblivion (not an online game) right now... - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: The Culture (was Re: Xbox 360)
From: Julia Thompson Oh, that's fine, I just felt like being pedantic and mildly useful all at once. I appreciate your giving me the opportunity to be so. :D Julia who once could recite a German translation of the first verse of Jabberwocky and did so ad nauseum Umm, ok, now you have to. Once more with feeing Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Xbox 360
OK, I've had to grudgingly admit there's one MS product that doesn't suck. Since February I've been dabbling in the Dark Side in the form of (1) an original Xbox bought at the request of my surrogate son; and (2) a 360 upgraded to when I had the chance. Damn me, I actually like it. I have to shower each time I do it, but still I come back. I hate marketing, especially when it pushes useless crap on people who need the money to, oh, I don't know, eat maybe, but there's something more than a little addictive to the reality of racing live onscreen with other humans halfway across Earth, and listening to them as they talk and talking with them, and then learning they want to invite you to some other game. I'm not lonesome or anything, but you know, this is pretty fun. Just this weekend I got friends online by doing Halo 2, PGR3 *and* Blazing Angels, all in one night. (Friends being parlance meaning OK to play with -- real human friendships are based in a lot more than game theory. Right?) Actually in BA I chose a Spitfire based on the recommendations of a Cockney eight-year-old or so who was wrong, ultimately, but quite authoritative. I switched eventually to a Corsair and spent most of the game time in blackout as I over-gee'd the stick. Sigh. Spitfire too little, Corsair too much. Something tweenish next time. FWIW my gamertag is mamaEffword. Who else out there has a 360, and do you want to come and play? Now you know whom to address. ;) FWIW, I suck at Halo 2. And, in fact, at all of the games I listed. But that's OK. I suck, but still enjoy playing, and meeting people online, and all the social stuff that -- hey, wonder -- has made the whole Xbox thing a force with which to be, genuinely, reckoned. Jump In is exactly the right tag and attitude for the Xbox 360 commercial team to adopt. And, what's made the system palatable to me, it's very hard to find the Microsoft logo on any part of it. It's there, but it's small and very subtle. If Windows was marketed with this level of finesse, maybe MS would see itself being less generally hated. See? Grudging. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Storms_on_a_Flat_Placid_Sea.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
Actually in BA I chose a Spitfire based on the recommendations of a Cockney eight-year-old or so who was wrong, ultimately, but quite authoritative. I switched eventually to a Corsair and spent most of the game time in blackout as I over-gee'd the stick. Sigh. Spitfire too little, Corsair too much. Something tweenish next time. FW-190A-8 is the magic answer. Small, fairly fast, maneuverable, and armed with FOUR 20mm cannons and a pair of 13mm machine guns...*drool* Note that I am utterly unfamiliar with the game. Mainly speaking from RW knowledge... Of course, I'd want to fly a Regia Aeronautica bf.109G just because I'm a stickler for the underdog... Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: EE's BRDM-1 Recce Vehicle -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.4/332 - Release Date: 5/4/2006 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
On May 7, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Damon Agretto wrote: Actually in BA I chose a Spitfire based on the recommendations of a Cockney eight-year-old or so who was wrong, ultimately, but quite authoritative. I switched eventually to a Corsair and spent most of the game time in blackout as I over-gee'd the stick. Sigh. Spitfire too little, Corsair too much. Something tweenish next time. FW-190A-8 is the magic answer. Small, fairly fast, maneuverable, and armed with FOUR 20mm cannons and a pair of 13mm machine guns...*drool* Note that I am utterly unfamiliar with the game. Mainly speaking from RW knowledge... Of course, I'd want to fly a Regia Aeronautica bf.109G just because I'm a stickler for the underdog... I *think* the Focke-Wulf 190 is an option but I don't know if it can get that specific. An interesting idea, though. One of the things the US learned in the Cold War era was that the Soviet MiGs flew like bricks, but had the best guns ANYWHERE. Sometimes maneuverability isn't as important as flying a big fat cannon. I know the FW was fast and light, not as heavy as the ME-109 -- the idea of using one never hit me. Hmm. Armor vs. … hmm. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Storms_on_a_Flat_Placid_Sea.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
On May 7, 2006, at 8:06 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: snip a bit of self-loathing over liking the Xbox (Friends being parlance meaning OK to play with -- real human friendships are based in a lot more than game theory. Right?) Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. Dave Land Blinded By Science Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
Yeah, well, fuck 'em. On May 7, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Dave Land wrote: Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Storms_on_a_Flat_Placid_Sea.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
Not without scientific proof that they are, in fact, my friends. On May 7, 2006, at 10:28 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Yeah, well, fuck 'em. On May 7, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Dave Land wrote: Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books http://books.nightwares.com/ Current work in progress The Seven-Year Mirror http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf http://books.nightwares.com/ockrassa/Storms_on_a_Flat_Placid_Sea.pdf ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Xbox 360
Or, at least, spermicidal condoms. ;) On May 7, 2006, at 10:36 PM, Dave Land wrote: Not without scientific proof that they are, in fact, my friends. On May 7, 2006, at 10:28 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Yeah, well, fuck 'em. On May 7, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Dave Land wrote: Based on some of the threads around here lately, I think there are some who would not accept the existence of friendship without a double-blind test. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
