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At 02:56 PM Sunday 12/3/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 01:12 PM Sunday 12/3/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:32 PM Saturday 12/2/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 06:33 PM Friday 12/1/2006, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Ah, but I like the carrots. And bell peppers if available. I cut out the core with the seeds and then eat them whole. Or maybe cut vertically into three or four sections for easier handling. Those are good. I like the red ones best. (I've gotten to where I don't buy green bell peppers unless the recipe specifically calls for them. We're grilling with the red ones instead of green ones, as well.) Whereas I prefer the green ones. I will keep that in mind. If we're ever grilling for you, I'll make sure to get a couple of green ones. :) And your skewers will be the ones with green peppers. Julia Actually, my preference for green bell peppers is pretty much limited to raw ones. When grilled any color (found in nature among those ripe enough and fresh enough to eat*, that is) or combination thereof is more than acceptable . . . , and appreciated . . . _ *Yes, I Realize That Others Can Be As Literal About Interpreting Obvious Statements As I Frequently Am Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 12:32 PM Saturday 12/2/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 06:33 PM Friday 12/1/2006, PAT MATHEWS wrote:
Ah, but I like the carrots. And bell peppers if available.
I cut out the core with the seeds and then eat them whole. Or maybe
cut vertically into three or four sections for easier handling.
Raw broccoli and cauliflour, now - quick! Someone find a stove
ring and cook them suckers!
Why ruin them? Try dipping them in ranch dressing. Turnips, OTOH,
are best peeled and eaten without any dip. Unless they're pithy,
in which case they are good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to
be trodden under foot of men.
Ewg, ranch dressing. Ewg. :)
Different people have different tolerances for different tastes and
textures, and ranch dressing = dairy which isn't so good for me at
times. You get queasy off of something enough times, you stop liking it.
Yes. X;{
It was just a suggestion of a way some people who have less rabbit in
their background than us normal folks :P have found to like snack
trays of raw vegetables.
-- Ronn! :)
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Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 12:32 PM Saturday 12/2/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 06:33 PM Friday 12/1/2006, PAT MATHEWS wrote:
Ah, but I like the carrots. And bell peppers if available.
I cut out the core with the seeds and then eat them whole. Or maybe cut
vertically into three or four sections for easier handling.
Those are good. I like the red ones best. (I've gotten to where I
don't buy green bell peppers unless the recipe specifically calls for
them. We're grilling with the red ones instead of green ones, as well.)
Raw broccoli and cauliflour, now - quick! Someone find a stove ring
and cook them suckers!
Why ruin them? Try dipping them in ranch dressing. Turnips, OTOH,
are best peeled and eaten without any dip. Unless they're pithy, in
which case they are good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be
trodden under foot of men.
Ewg, ranch dressing. Ewg. :)
Different people have different tolerances for different tastes and
textures, and ranch dressing = dairy which isn't so good for me at
times. You get queasy off of something enough times, you stop liking it.
Yes. X;{
It was just a suggestion of a way some people who have less rabbit in
their background than us normal folks :P have found to like snack trays
of raw vegetables.
Oh, I can give you a (very fattening!) recipe for a vegetable dip that
people who like dairy seem to love:
1 pint sour cream
1 package Lawry's spaghetti sauce spice mix
Mix the spaghetti sauce spice mix into the sour cream. Let sit in
refrigerator at least 24 hours. Serve with raw veggies.
Lots of people love it. I can't stand it, myself, but if someone asked
me to bring vegetable dip with enough warning for me to get it prepared,
I'd bring that. (And have in the past.)
Julia
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Re: Obesity, portion control fuel consumption.
At 01:12 PM Sunday 12/3/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 12:32 PM Saturday 12/2/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 06:33 PM Friday 12/1/2006, PAT MATHEWS wrote:
Ah, but I like the carrots. And bell peppers if available.
I cut out the core with the seeds and then eat them whole. Or
maybe cut vertically into three or four sections for easier handling.
Those are good. I like the red ones best. (I've gotten to where I
don't buy green bell peppers unless the recipe specifically calls
for them. We're grilling with the red ones instead of green ones, as well.)
Whereas I prefer the green ones.
Raw broccoli and cauliflour, now - quick! Someone find a stove
ring and cook them suckers!
Why ruin them? Try dipping them in ranch dressing. Turnips,
OTOH, are best peeled and eaten without any dip. Unless they're
pithy, in which case they are good for nothing, but to be cast
out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
Ewg, ranch dressing. Ewg. :)
Different people have different tolerances for different tastes
and textures, and ranch dressing = dairy which isn't so good for
me at times. You get queasy off of something enough times, you stop liking it.
Yes. X;{
It was just a suggestion of a way some people who have less rabbit
in their background than us normal folks :P have found to like
snack trays of raw vegetables.
Oh, I can give you a (very fattening!) recipe for a vegetable dip
that people who like dairy seem to love:
1 pint sour cream
1 package Lawry's spaghetti sauce spice mix
Mix the spaghetti sauce spice mix into the sour cream. Let sit in
refrigerator at least 24 hours. Serve with raw veggies.
Lots of people love it. I can't stand it, myself, but if someone
asked me to bring vegetable dip with enough warning for me to get it
prepared, I'd bring that. (And have in the past.)
Julia
OTOH, ranch dressing as a dip has the advantage of taking about 23
hours and 50 minutes less to prepare. (Stop at store on way to
party. Run inside. Buy a bottle of ranch dressing or a tub of the
ranch dressing dip, whichever you come across first. Return to car
and continue to party location.)
-- Ronn! :)
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At 12:58 PM Friday 12/1/2006, PAT MATHEWS wrote: From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 1, 2006, at 7:23 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Yeah. But before you go off on how Evil McDoonald's is, let me point out they're one of the few places I can get decent portions. In higher class places if you want a hamburger you get a 6 to 8 ouncer for corresponding prices. I'm not into eating that much. I go for the fast food where 1/4 is still considered a good size. You should really look at the offerings at Carl's Jr. Mmmm. Six Dollar Burger... Dave A Six Dollar Burger is precisely what I do NOT want! I do NOT want lumberjack-sized portions at lumberjack prices I am getting sick to death of finding that the only option on the menu unless I can somehow pass myself off as being under 10 years old - and then enduring the starch fried stuff offered the kiddies. We have macaroni and cheese - and for our vegetable, we have CORN!!! Around here, you can go to restaurants and get plates of several cooked vegetables. When my father accompanied me out west he was disappointed to discover that that is not the case. (I believe in that case they had peas instead of corn.) Senior plates are roughly 3/4 the size at 4/5 the price. That's an improvement. Somewhat of an improvement. For their profit margin, certainly. I want one-ounce cookies, 2-4 ounce hamburgers, plates with actual vegetables on them (and NOT boiled to death with grease in them) and portions no larger than what grown adults who did manual labor used to eat 50-60 years ago. I want a one-egg breakfast burrito and a 2-egg omelet. I want French toast, not French Texas Toast. I want pancakes the size you get on a side order, not pancakes that cover an entire modern dinner plate. I want potatoes the size of a stapler, not the size of a football. I want 8-ounce cups of coffee to be available and drinking glasses at the dinner table to hold 8 ounces of milk comfortably, not to demand 16 ounces. I am a little old lady, dammit, not a 7-foot 300 pound football player Well, I'm more than a foot and 100 pounds short of those figures (and my sports abilities are next to nonexistent), but I generally take somewhat larger servings than you describe wanting. And if I don't eat enough, my brain suffers and doesn't work properly. (No comments from the peanut gallery.) For Thanksgiving, however, I did eat about like a little old lady (specifically my 85-y.o. about 5-foot-nothing stepmother, who hostessed the affair). But then that was pretty much the first thing more solid than noodles I had eaten that week, during which period there were several occasions where what was in the alimentary canal was expelled rather forcefully from one end or the other. But at least the turkey and all the other good stuff stayed where it was supposed to . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 01:12 PM Sunday 12/3/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 12:32 PM Saturday 12/2/2006, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 06:33 PM Friday 12/1/2006, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Ah, but I like the carrots. And bell peppers if available. I cut out the core with the seeds and then eat them whole. Or maybe cut vertically into three or four sections for easier handling. Those are good. I like the red ones best. (I've gotten to where I don't buy green bell peppers unless the recipe specifically calls for them. We're grilling with the red ones instead of green ones, as well.) Whereas I prefer the green ones. I will keep that in mind. If we're ever grilling for you, I'll make sure to get a couple of green ones. :) And your skewers will be the ones with green peppers. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 06:33 PM Friday 12/1/2006, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Ah, but I like the carrots. And bell peppers if available. Raw broccoli and cauliflour, now - quick! Someone find a stove ring and cook them suckers! Why ruin them? Try dipping them in ranch dressing. Turnips, OTOH, are best peeled and eaten without any dip. Unless they're pithy, in which case they are good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Ewg, ranch dressing. Ewg. :) Different people have different tolerances for different tastes and textures, and ranch dressing = dairy which isn't so good for me at times. You get queasy off of something enough times, you stop liking it. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Nov 1, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: This afternoon, I ran across this article. I'm not sure how accurate the calculations are, but it goes along the same lines as what I was thinking a month ago. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15415446/wid/11915773/ Jebus, I guess I'm blogwhoring tonight in addition to catching up on very old letters. My own take on it was a little different; I questioned the idea of owning Humvees, going to McDonald's, and why it seems we're so willing to overconsume when we need or want for nothing. It's like we're all terrified of running out of everything. Ever go to a buffet and just cram yourself full of food when you're already packed to the esophagus, a la Mr. Creosote from Python's _Meaning of Life_? Ever wonder why the hell you do that? I don't know why either, but I have thought about it. http://indigestible.nightwares.com/2006/08/23/humvees-the-vehicles-of- dread/ The article includes a link to a PDF you can get and print out that is very, very insulting to McDonald's. Heh heh. -- Warren Ockrassa Blog | http://indigestible.nightwares.com/ Books | http://books.nightwares.com/ Web | http://www.nightwares.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 02:42 AM Friday 12/1/2006, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Ever go to a buffet and just cram yourself full of food when you're already packed to the esophagus, a la Mr. Creosote from Python's _Meaning of Life_? Ever wonder why the hell you do that? 'Cuz it's free. And someone else cooked it And someone else will be washing the dishes. Burp Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Yeah. But before you go off on how Evil McDoonald's is, let me point out they're one of the few places I can get decent portions. In higher class places if you want a hamburger you get a 6 to 8 ouncer for corresponding prices. I'm not into eating that much. I go for the fast food where 1/4 is still considered a good size. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ We need not be concerned with the fourth class of men, those who are both cowardly in war and brutal in peace. C.S. Lewis, On Chivalry From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Obesity, portion control fuel consumption. Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 01:42:02 -0700 On Nov 1, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: This afternoon, I ran across this article. I'm not sure how accurate the calculations are, but it goes along the same lines as what I was thinking a month ago. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15415446/wid/11915773/ Jebus, I guess I'm blogwhoring tonight in addition to catching up on very old letters. My own take on it was a little different; I questioned the idea of owning Humvees, going to McDonald's, and why it seems we're so willing to overconsume when we need or want for nothing. It's like we're all terrified of running out of everything. Ever go to a buffet and just cram yourself full of food when you're already packed to the esophagus, a la Mr. Creosote from Python's _Meaning of Life_? Ever wonder why the hell you do that? I don't know why either, but I have thought about it. http://indigestible.nightwares.com/2006/08/23/humvees-the-vehicles-of- dread/ The article includes a link to a PDF you can get and print out that is very, very insulting to McDonald's. Heh heh. -- Warren Ockrassa Blog | http://indigestible.nightwares.com/ Books | http://books.nightwares.com/ Web | http://www.nightwares.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Dec 1, 2006, at 7:23 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Yeah. But before you go off on how Evil McDoonald's is, let me point out they're one of the few places I can get decent portions. In higher class places if you want a hamburger you get a 6 to 8 ouncer for corresponding prices. I'm not into eating that much. I go for the fast food where 1/4 is still considered a good size. You should really look at the offerings at Carl's Jr. -- Warren Ockrassa Blog | http://indigestible.nightwares.com/ Books | http://books.nightwares.com/ Web | http://www.nightwares.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Dec 1, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Dec 1, 2006, at 7:23 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Yeah. But before you go off on how Evil McDoonald's is, let me point out they're one of the few places I can get decent portions. In higher class places if you want a hamburger you get a 6 to 8 ouncer for corresponding prices. I'm not into eating that much. I go for the fast food where 1/4 is still considered a good size. You should really look at the offerings at Carl's Jr. Mmmm. Six Dollar Burger... Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 1, 2006, at 7:23 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Yeah. But before you go off on how Evil McDoonald's is, let me point out they're one of the few places I can get decent portions. In higher class places if you want a hamburger you get a 6 to 8 ouncer for corresponding prices. I'm not into eating that much. I go for the fast food where 1/4 is still considered a good size. You should really look at the offerings at Carl's Jr. Mmmm. Six Dollar Burger... Dave A Six Dollar Burger is precisely what I do NOT want! I do NOT want lumberjack-sized portions at lumberjack prices I am getting sick to death of finding that the only option on the menu unless I can somehow pass myself off as being under 10 years old - and then enduring the starch fried stuff offered the kiddies. We have macaroni and cheese - and for our vegetable, we have CORN!!! Senior plates are roughly 3/4 the size at 4/5 the price. That's an improvement. Somewhat of an improvement. I want one-ounce cookies, 2-4 ounce hamburgers, plates with actual vegetables on them (and NOT boiled to death with grease in them) and portions no larger than what grown adults who did manual labor used to eat 50-60 years ago. I want a one-egg breakfast burrito and a 2-egg omelet. I want French toast, not French Texas Toast. I want pancakes the size you get on a side order, not pancakes that cover an entire modern dinner plate. I want potatoes the size of a stapler, not the size of a football. I want 8-ounce cups of coffee to be available and drinking glasses at the dinner table to hold 8 ounces of milk comfortably, not to demand 16 ounces. I am a little old lady, dammit, not a 7-foot 300 pound football player ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Dec 1, 2006, at 10:58 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 1, 2006, at 7:23 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Yeah. But before you go off on how Evil McDoonald's is, let me point out they're one of the few places I can get decent portions. In higher class places if you want a hamburger you get a 6 to 8 ouncer for corresponding prices. I'm not into eating that much. I go for the fast food where 1/4 is still considered a good size. You should really look at the offerings at Carl's Jr. Mmmm. Six Dollar Burger... A Six Dollar Burger is precisely what I do NOT want! I do NOT want lumberjack-sized portions at lumberjack prices I am getting sick to death of finding that the only option on the menu unless I can somehow pass myself off as being under 10 years old - and then enduring the starch fried stuff offered the kiddies. We have macaroni and cheese - and for our vegetable, we have CORN!!! Senior plates are roughly 3/4 the size at 4/5 the price. That's an improvement. Somewhat of an improvement. I want one-ounce cookies, 2-4 ounce hamburgers, plates with actual vegetables on them (and NOT boiled to death with grease in them) and portions no larger than what grown adults who did manual labor used to eat 50-60 years ago. I want a one-egg breakfast burrito and a 2-egg omelet. I want French toast, not French Texas Toast. I want pancakes the size you get on a side order, not pancakes that cover an entire modern dinner plate. I want potatoes the size of a stapler, not the size of a football. I want 8-ounce cups of coffee to be available and drinking glasses at the dinner table to hold 8 ounces of milk comfortably, not to demand 16 ounces. I am a little old lady, dammit, not a 7-foot 300 pound football player Thanks. I guess I forgot the smiley faces on my post. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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And you can probably get a kid's meal without too much hassle -- and I believe those have the option of substituting apple slices for fries. :) (And they WILL sell you the quarter pounder without the cheese if you ask. Having developed an aversion to cheeseburgers shortly after the joyful end of the pregnancy during which I was craving them, this is a Good Thing.) Julia PAT MATHEWS wrote: Yeah. But before you go off on how Evil McDoonald's is, let me point out they're one of the few places I can get decent portions. In higher class places if you want a hamburger you get a 6 to 8 ouncer for corresponding prices. I'm not into eating that much. I go for the fast food where 1/4 is still considered a good size. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ We need not be concerned with the fourth class of men, those who are both cowardly in war and brutal in peace. C.S. Lewis, On Chivalry From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Obesity, portion control fuel consumption. Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 01:42:02 -0700 On Nov 1, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: This afternoon, I ran across this article. I'm not sure how accurate the calculations are, but it goes along the same lines as what I was thinking a month ago. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15415446/wid/11915773/ Jebus, I guess I'm blogwhoring tonight in addition to catching up on very old letters. My own take on it was a little different; I questioned the idea of owning Humvees, going to McDonald's, and why it seems we're so willing to overconsume when we need or want for nothing. It's like we're all terrified of running out of everything. Ever go to a buffet and just cram yourself full of food when you're already packed to the esophagus, a la Mr. Creosote from Python's _Meaning of Life_? Ever wonder why the hell you do that? I don't know why either, but I have thought about it. http://indigestible.nightwares.com/2006/08/23/humvees-the-vehicles-of- dread/ The article includes a link to a PDF you can get and print out that is very, very insulting to McDonald's. Heh heh. -- Warren Ockrassa Blog | http://indigestible.nightwares.com/ Books | http://books.nightwares.com/ Web | http://www.nightwares.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Dec 1, 2006, at 7:23 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Yeah. But before you go off on how Evil McDoonald's is, let me point out they're one of the few places I can get decent portions. In higher class places if you want a hamburger you get a 6 to 8 ouncer for corresponding prices. I'm not into eating that much. I go for the fast food where 1/4 is still considered a good size. You should really look at the offerings at Carl's Jr. Well, tell them to open a shop in Hutto, TX and I will. :) There's a McDonald's, a Taco Bell, a Sonic and a Quizno's, and I think that's it for national chains serving fast food. (There's a Chili's, as well, if you want to sit down and be waited on in a national chain.) There are a few local one-of-a-kind places; I'll pimp the pizza/wing joint on US 79 in a heartbeat, and recommend the little Tex-Mex place on East St. The coffee shop on Front St. is really cool, as well. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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PAT MATHEWS wrote: From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 1, 2006, at 7:23 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Yeah. But before you go off on how Evil McDoonald's is, let me point out they're one of the few places I can get decent portions. In higher class places if you want a hamburger you get a 6 to 8 ouncer for corresponding prices. I'm not into eating that much. I go for the fast food where 1/4 is still considered a good size. You should really look at the offerings at Carl's Jr. Mmmm. Six Dollar Burger... Dave A Six Dollar Burger is precisely what I do NOT want! I do NOT want lumberjack-sized portions at lumberjack prices I am getting sick to death of finding that the only option on the menu unless I can somehow pass myself off as being under 10 years old - and then enduring the starch fried stuff offered the kiddies. We have macaroni and cheese - and for our vegetable, we have CORN!!! Senior plates are roughly 3/4 the size at 4/5 the price. That's an improvement. Somewhat of an improvement. I want one-ounce cookies, 2-4 ounce hamburgers, plates with actual vegetables on them (and NOT boiled to death with grease in them) and portions no larger than what grown adults who did manual labor used to eat 50-60 years ago. I want a one-egg breakfast burrito and a 2-egg omelet. I want French toast, not French Texas Toast. I want pancakes the size you get on a side order, not pancakes that cover an entire modern dinner plate. I want potatoes the size of a stapler, not the size of a football. I want 8-ounce cups of coffee to be available and drinking glasses at the dinner table to hold 8 ounces of milk comfortably, not to demand 16 ounces. I am a little old lady, dammit, not a 7-foot 300 pound football player And that rant sounds a lot like one my mom delivered awhile back, when she was still in her 50s. :) So she figured out how to get what she wanted at various places, and avoided the ones where she couldn't -- or took home 1/2 to 2/3 of the food served. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Dec 1, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Julia Thompson wrote: PAT MATHEWS wrote: From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 1, 2006, at 7:23 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Yeah. But before you go off on how Evil McDoonald's is, let me point out they're one of the few places I can get decent portions. In higher class places if you want a hamburger you get a 6 to 8 ouncer for corresponding prices. I'm not into eating that much. I go for the fast food where 1/4 is still considered a good size. You should really look at the offerings at Carl's Jr. Mmmm. Six Dollar Burger... A Six Dollar Burger is precisely what I do NOT want! snip I am a little old lady, dammit, not a 7-foot 300 pound football player And that rant sounds a lot like one my mom delivered awhile back, when she was still in her 50s. :) So she figured out how to get what she wanted at various places, and avoided the ones where she couldn't -- or took home 1/2 to 2/3 of the food served. Nick and I just got back from lunch at Armadillo Willy's, a rib joint here in Silicon Valley, where we always order the Kids' Ribs plate -- a reasonable amount of food for a reasonable price. Not only do they allow us non-kids to order the kid-sized portion, they throw in an adult-sized drink for free because they like us. Dave ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick and I just got back from lunch at Armadillo Willy's, a rib joint here in Silicon Valley, where we always order the Kids' Ribs plate -- a reasonable amount of food for a reasonable price. Not only do they allow us non-kids to order the kid-sized portion, they throw in an adult-sized drink for free because they like us. Dave The Downtown Waterfront Marriott in Portland, Oregon got really, really sticky about that. My roommate at Orycon and I ended up ordering miniature cheeseburgers in the sports bar and splitting the plate, and even enduring the TV. I thought the little restaurants and snack places nearby would be where we ate, but no, it's downtown - they close after lunch on Friday. We also ate in the Hospitality Suite and room parties. You can guess how many snacks we had as opposed to meals! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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PAT MATHEWS wrote: From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick and I just got back from lunch at Armadillo Willy's, a rib joint here in Silicon Valley, where we always order the Kids' Ribs plate -- a reasonable amount of food for a reasonable price. Not only do they allow us non-kids to order the kid-sized portion, they throw in an adult-sized drink for free because they like us. Dave The Downtown Waterfront Marriott in Portland, Oregon got really, really sticky about that. My roommate at Orycon and I ended up ordering miniature cheeseburgers in the sports bar and splitting the plate, and even enduring the TV. I thought the little restaurants and snack places nearby would be where we ate, but no, it's downtown - they close after lunch on Friday. We also ate in the Hospitality Suite and room parties. You can guess how many snacks we had as opposed to meals! Hospitality suites are great. Raw celery, raw broccoli. (And if you go to a con I'm at and all that's been consumed in the Con Suite, leaving only the carrots and whatever else comes on those vegetable trays, go ahead and blame me.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ah, but I like the carrots. And bell peppers if available. Raw broccoli and cauliflour, now - quick! Someone find a stove ring and cook them suckers! http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ We need not be concerned with the fourth class of men, those who are both cowardly in war and brutal in peace. C.S. Lewis, On Chivalry From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Obesity, portion control fuel consumption. Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:31:33 -0600 PAT MATHEWS wrote: From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick and I just got back from lunch at Armadillo Willy's, a rib joint here in Silicon Valley, where we always order the Kids' Ribs plate -- a reasonable amount of food for a reasonable price. Not only do they allow us non-kids to order the kid-sized portion, they throw in an adult-sized drink for free because they like us. Dave The Downtown Waterfront Marriott in Portland, Oregon got really, really sticky about that. My roommate at Orycon and I ended up ordering miniature cheeseburgers in the sports bar and splitting the plate, and even enduring the TV. I thought the little restaurants and snack places nearby would be where we ate, but no, it's downtown - they close after lunch on Friday. We also ate in the Hospitality Suite and room parties. You can guess how many snacks we had as opposed to meals! Hospitality suites are great. Raw celery, raw broccoli. (And if you go to a con I'm at and all that's been consumed in the Con Suite, leaving only the carrots and whatever else comes on those vegetable trays, go ahead and blame me.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 06:33 PM Friday 12/1/2006, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Ah, but I like the carrots. And bell peppers if available. Raw broccoli and cauliflour, now - quick! Someone find a stove ring and cook them suckers! Why ruin them? Try dipping them in ranch dressing. Turnips, OTOH, are best peeled and eaten without any dip. Unless they're pithy, in which case they are good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Broccoli is best steamed, but still edible raw. I'm not terribly fond of cauliflower, you can have it all. :) Julia PAT MATHEWS wrote: Ah, but I like the carrots. And bell peppers if available. Raw broccoli and cauliflour, now - quick! Someone find a stove ring and cook them suckers! http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ We need not be concerned with the fourth class of men, those who are both cowardly in war and brutal in peace. C.S. Lewis, On Chivalry From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Obesity, portion control fuel consumption. Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:31:33 -0600 PAT MATHEWS wrote: From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick and I just got back from lunch at Armadillo Willy's, a rib joint here in Silicon Valley, where we always order the Kids' Ribs plate -- a reasonable amount of food for a reasonable price. Not only do they allow us non-kids to order the kid-sized portion, they throw in an adult-sized drink for free because they like us. Dave The Downtown Waterfront Marriott in Portland, Oregon got really, really sticky about that. My roommate at Orycon and I ended up ordering miniature cheeseburgers in the sports bar and splitting the plate, and even enduring the TV. I thought the little restaurants and snack places nearby would be where we ate, but no, it's downtown - they close after lunch on Friday. We also ate in the Hospitality Suite and room parties. You can guess how many snacks we had as opposed to meals! Hospitality suites are great. Raw celery, raw broccoli. (And if you go to a con I'm at and all that's been consumed in the Con Suite, leaving only the carrots and whatever else comes on those vegetable trays, go ahead and blame me.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 1 Nov 2006, at 10:34PM, Gary Nunn wrote: In the last year, I've changed some habits, lost some weight and tried to be a little more aware of what I'm eating and what the portion size was. About a month ago, my daughter and I went to Applebee's for dinner. The somewhat traditional thing is to get a salad bar and an entrée. I ordered a cheeseburger and a baked potato. By the time I had a salad and one of the rolls from the basketful they put in front of you while your waiting, I was stuffed. By the time my meal came, had I eaten anything more, I would have been miserable. It turned out that my modest cheeseburger was a full half pound of beef, with a huge bun, and the baked potato was also very large. I couldn't touch them. While we sat there, I watched the people at the next table each eat a salad plate piled up with salad, potato salad, macaroni salad, vegetables and all of the other peripheral stuff on salad bars. This same table, devoured 2 baskets of rolls between 3 people, and then devoured their meal completely. I've read before, that the US serves larger portions than many other countries, but I was never really aware of just how much until that night at Applebee's. That reminds me of the scientific study about why the French were able to eat high-fat French cuisine without getting obese - the answer was smaller portions! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3173997.stm But now the French are having an obesity epidemic thanks to fast food : While adult obesity is rising about 6 percent annually, among children the national rate of growth is 17 percent. At that rate, the French could be - quelle horreur - as fat as Americans by 2020. McDonald's is more profitable in France than anywhere else in Europe. Sales have increased 42 percent over the past five years. Some 1.2 million French, or 2 percent of the population, eat there every day. http://tinyurl.com/yfz3jo -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Invest in a company any idiot can run because sooner or later any idiot is going to run it. - Warren Buffet ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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William T Goodall wrote: On 1 Nov 2006, at 10:34PM, Gary Nunn wrote: In the last year, I've changed some habits, lost some weight and tried to be a little more aware of what I'm eating and what the portion size was. About a month ago, my daughter and I went to Applebee's for dinner. The somewhat traditional thing is to get a salad bar and an entrée. I ordered a cheeseburger and a baked potato. By the time I had a salad and one of the rolls from the basketful they put in front of you while your waiting, I was stuffed. By the time my meal came, had I eaten anything more, I would have been miserable. It turned out that my modest cheeseburger was a full half pound of beef, with a huge bun, and the baked potato was also very large. I couldn't touch them. While we sat there, I watched the people at the next table each eat a salad plate piled up with salad, potato salad, macaroni salad, vegetables and all of the other peripheral stuff on salad bars. This same table, devoured 2 baskets of rolls between 3 people, and then devoured their meal completely. I've read before, that the US serves larger portions than many other countries, but I was never really aware of just how much until that night at Applebee's. That reminds me of the scientific study about why the French were able to eat high-fat French cuisine without getting obese - the answer was smaller portions! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3173997.stm But now the French are having an obesity epidemic thanks to fast food : While adult obesity is rising about 6 percent annually, among children the national rate of growth is 17 percent. At that rate, the French could be - quelle horreur - as fat as Americans by 2020. McDonald's is more profitable in France than anywhere else in Europe. Sales have increased 42 percent over the past five years. Some 1.2 million French, or 2 percent of the population, eat there every day. http://tinyurl.com/yfz3jo I think another thing that the French have going for them is that they tend to do more walking than most Americans, and use fewer elevators and more stairs. That's not a trivial difference! Oh, and Pat, if you're still looking at my list of things I threw out as ways to control portions, etc., I believe that at McDonald's, you're allowed to get apple slices instead of the fries with the Happy Meals, which ought to be helpful! Julia using the stairs as much as possible ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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In the last year, I've changed some habits, lost some weight and tried to be a little more aware of what I'm eating and what the portion size was. About a month ago, my daughter and I went to Applebee's for dinner. The somewhat traditional thing is to get a salad bar and an entrée. I ordered a cheeseburger and a baked potato. By the time I had a salad and one of the rolls from the basketful they put in front of you while your waiting, I was stuffed. By the time my meal came, had I eaten anything more, I would have been miserable. It turned out that my modest cheeseburger was a full half pound of beef, with a huge bun, and the baked potato was also very large. I couldn't touch them. While we sat there, I watched the people at the next table each eat a salad plate piled up with salad, potato salad, macaroni salad, vegetables and all of the other peripheral stuff on salad bars. This same table, devoured 2 baskets of rolls between 3 people, and then devoured their meal completely. I've read before, that the US serves larger portions than many other countries, but I was never really aware of just how much until that night at Applebee's. Then, I started to notice things like supersizing fries and pop at McDonald's and similar menu offerings at other restaurants. The portions of a McDonald's supersized meals are enough for three people. Is anyone familiar with Chipotle? I LOVE the veggie burritos, but they're so big, I can't eat a whole one anymore (I admit, I used to be able to easily eat a whole one). There's a website that actually calculates the calorie count of Chipotle food. The typical Chipotle burrito, has 1975 calories. http://www.chipotlefan.com/index.php?id=nutrition_calculator Anyway, back to my point... The three people at the next table at Applebee's must have collectively weighed 1000+ lbs.(453.5 kilograms). I remember thinking that their car must burn through much more gas than mine since it's carrying significantly more weight. This afternoon, I ran across this article. I'm not sure how accurate the calculations are, but it goes along the same lines as what I was thinking a month ago. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15415446/wid/11915773/ CHICAGO - Want to spend less at the pump? Lose some weight. Thats the implication of a new study that says Americans are burning nearly 1 billion more gallons of gasoline each year than they did in 1960 because of their expanding waistlines. Simply put, more weight in the car means lower gas mileage. Using recent gas prices of $2.20 a gallon, that translates to about $2.2 billion more spent on gas each year. _ The Vulcan Neck Pinch is not half as powerful as the Vulcan Groin Kick, but it's more politically correct. ~ Quotes you'll never hear on Star Trek. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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And just try to get smaller portions Pat http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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PAT MATHEWS wrote: And just try to get smaller portions Pat Yeah. I pull the trick of substituting things for fries, at least in sit-down places. A nicely done burger (which I don't quite finish) with a side of broccoli is good. (Or, if you're NOT allergic to lettuce, see if they'll give you the side salad instead of the fries, if that's more your thing.) I pull the broccoli-instead-of-fries trick in Chili's on a regular basis, and I've done it at Threadgill's, as well. My mom used to order Happy Meals for herself when she went to McDonald's. If you're just snagging it in the drive-through, who's going to know? That was a reasonable quantity of food, at least for fast food. And I don't order the dinners at Tex-Mex places, I try to get just 2 enchiladas a la carte. (Or 1 if I'm getting soup. We're heading into soup season.) Some places have senior menus with smaller portions. If you're stuck in the age-11-to-54 range, in some places you can just order off the sides part of the menu. When I go to IHOP, if I'm not doing the caloric splurge that is French Toast, I just ask for eggs, scrambled, side of whole wheat toast, and that's it. They'll do that for you if you ask. Oh, and we'll get Olive Garden take-out sometimes, and I just plan on eating half and eating the other half the next day. I decided at 16, watching 4 adults sit around and complain about how stuffed they were and that they couldn't move after Thanksgiving dinner, that it was really stupid to eat to the point of discomfort. So I don't eat to the point of discomfort. Period. And I've figured out how to get the right quantity of food off various menus. About the only time the ridiculous portions were ever welcome was when I was lactating, and then I still had to keep it sensible. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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I'm printing this sucker off! (snip suggestions). And taking it to Weight Watchers. Pat http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Obesity, portion control fuel consumption. Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 17:41:46 -0600 PAT MATHEWS wrote: And just try to get smaller portions Pat Yeah. I pull the trick of substituting things for fries, at least in sit-down places. A nicely done burger (which I don't quite finish) with a side of broccoli is good. (Or, if you're NOT allergic to lettuce, see if they'll give you the side salad instead of the fries, if that's more your thing.) I pull the broccoli-instead-of-fries trick in Chili's on a regular basis, and I've done it at Threadgill's, as well. My mom used to order Happy Meals for herself when she went to McDonald's. If you're just snagging it in the drive-through, who's going to know? That was a reasonable quantity of food, at least for fast food. And I don't order the dinners at Tex-Mex places, I try to get just 2 enchiladas a la carte. (Or 1 if I'm getting soup. We're heading into soup season.) Some places have senior menus with smaller portions. If you're stuck in the age-11-to-54 range, in some places you can just order off the sides part of the menu. When I go to IHOP, if I'm not doing the caloric splurge that is French Toast, I just ask for eggs, scrambled, side of whole wheat toast, and that's it. They'll do that for you if you ask. Oh, and we'll get Olive Garden take-out sometimes, and I just plan on eating half and eating the other half the next day. I decided at 16, watching 4 adults sit around and complain about how stuffed they were and that they couldn't move after Thanksgiving dinner, that it was really stupid to eat to the point of discomfort. So I don't eat to the point of discomfort. Period. And I've figured out how to get the right quantity of food off various menus. About the only time the ridiculous portions were ever welcome was when I was lactating, and then I still had to keep it sensible. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
