Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
Damon Agretto wrote: I think SR would be really neat in Linklater's style of animation. Its a very neat way to both break from reality and yet stay firmly grounded in reality. I think that would do a lot to hinder my enjoyment. Dunno, I personally like anime (at least for one reason) for its artistic stylings. Funny, I often _dislike_ anime (at least for one reason) for its artistic stylings. To each his own, eh? Something done in rotoscope (or its 21st C equivalent) always seemed a bit like cheating! :) I suppose you'd say the same thing for any other computer effects overlaid on top of live action footage? Was Sky Captain cheating? Heck, Tron used chemical processing, was that cheating? I've heard some great things about Linklater's first film in the style (Waking Life), at least from the people I know that have actually seen it. (It's got a 79%-FRESH on Rotten Tomatoes, which has become my favorite indicator of a film's worth.) The A Scanner Darkly trailers have me intrigued and I'm hoping for a good translation of the book. (I have to admit I'm skeptical with Woody and Keanu, but it can't be that tough to play druggies, can it?) -- --Max Battcher-- http://www.worldmaker.net/ I'm gonna win, trust in me / I have come to save this world / and in the end I'll get the grrrl! --Machinae Supremacy, Hero (Promo Track) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
On 10/04/2006, at 7:00 AM, Dan Minette wrote: But I do agree that Startide is far more likely to work as an animated or largely animated feature. (Might work in the Babe style, mind...) You mean with a starship run by pigs? I'm not so sure. Link Hogthrob, Miss Piggy and Dr Strangepork might disagree with you... What I actually meant was using the lip animation over live action footage that worked so well in Babe might work well for dolphin characters. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
Charlie Bell wrote: On 10/04/2006, at 7:00 AM, Dan Minette wrote: But I do agree that Startide is far more likely to work as an animated or largely animated feature. (Might work in the Babe style, mind...) You mean with a starship run by pigs? I'm not so sure. Link Hogthrob, Miss Piggy and Dr Strangepork might disagree with you... OK, so I wasn't the only one flashing on the Muppet Show. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
Brin should be shopping his wares at Pixar or Dreamworks. Can you anime fans imagine how much better The Postman would have been as an Anime OVA? If it was from those two studios, it wouldn't really be anime then, would it? I think anime, in the English speaking world, has a far more specific definition than it does in Japan. I would argue, then, that a movie made domestically could never be anime, since it wouldn't have the little cultural quirks and background what is called anime in the US posesses, and makes it endearing... Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: EE's BRDM-1 Recce Vehicle -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/305 - Release Date: 4/8/2006 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
On 09/04/2006, at 9:29 AM, Damon Agretto wrote: Brin should be shopping his wares at Pixar or Dreamworks. Can you anime fans imagine how much better The Postman would have been as an Anime OVA? If it was from those two studios, it wouldn't really be anime then, would it? No. It would be CGI. :) Or animation. But not anime. I think anime, in the English speaking world, has a far more specific definition than it does in Japan. I would argue, then, that a movie made domestically could never be anime, since it wouldn't have the little cultural quirks and background what is called anime in the US posesses, and makes it endearing... Agree. It doesn't have to be a Japanese story, but it does have to have that look and feel. Howl's Moving Castle is anime, Ice Age isn't. But I do agree that Startide is far more likely to work as an animated or largely animated feature. (Might work in the Babe style, mind...) Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
Agree. It doesn't have to be a Japanese story, but it does have to have that look and feel. Howl's Moving Castle is anime, Ice Age isn't. But I do agree that Startide is far more likely to work as an animated or largely animated feature. (Might work in the Babe style, mind...) I don't think the Ghibli style would work for SR, IMHO. At least not for me. However, I wouldn't mind the Otomo or Oshii style (Akira and Ghost in the Shell respectively), which tends to be a bit more sober and realistic. Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: EE's BRDM-1 Recce Vehicle -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/305 - Release Date: 4/8/2006 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
- Original Message - From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 1:29 AM Subject: Re: Tales From Earthsea.Anime! Brin should be shopping his wares at Pixar or Dreamworks. Can you anime fans imagine how much better The Postman would have been as an Anime OVA? If it was from those two studios, it wouldn't really be anime then, would it? Course notG But you have noted there is a bit of convergence occuring? I think anime, in the English speaking world, has a far more specific definition than it does in Japan. I would argue, then, that a movie made domestically could never be anime, since it wouldn't have the little cultural quirks and background what is called anime in the US posesses, and makes it endearing... Anime is a bastardized loan word from english. (I'd provide a link but Wiki seems to be down) Originally is was the Japanese trying to say animation and naturally becoming simplified. Considering that there is some convergence, the term is currently broadening a bit. There is quite a bit of pseudo/copycat-anime being produced here and in Francewell then there is Korea.. Style is not static by any means. I don't myself use anime interchangeably when discussing other forms, but was writing a quickie and mentioning options. xponent Looking Forward Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
Robert Seeberger wrote: (I'd provide a link but Wiki seems to be down) AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 4/9/06, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: (I'd provide a link but Wiki seems to be down) AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! Julia If you think that annoys you, a mere reader/dilettante editor, what do you think it does to adminstrators like me? ~maru On the positive side, it is back up, though slowly. Stupid Florida colos and crappy power supplies! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 4/9/2006 5:02:53 PM, Julia Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: (I'd provide a link but Wiki seems to be down) AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! I hate it when that happens. G xponent Back Up Now Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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maru dubshinki wrote: On 4/9/06, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: (I'd provide a link but Wiki seems to be down) AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! AAAIGH! Julia If you think that annoys you, a mere reader/dilettante editor, what do you think it does to adminstrators like me? Drives you positively batty? Makes you *actually* tear your hair out? ~maru On the positive side, it is back up, though slowly. Stupid Florida colos and crappy power supplies! Oh, man, crappy power supplies at colos. Been there, done that, written the checks for replacement UPSs (Actually, on most of the colos, I was never *there*, but I was the one writing the checks for the new UPSs.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
Damon Agretto wrote: Agree. It doesn't have to be a Japanese story, but it does have to have that look and feel. Howl's Moving Castle is anime, Ice Age isn't. But I do agree that Startide is far more likely to work as an animated or largely animated feature. (Might work in the Babe style, mind...) I don't think the Ghibli style would work for SR, IMHO. At least not for me. However, I wouldn't mind the Otomo or Oshii style (Akira and Ghost in the Shell respectively), which tends to be a bit more sober and realistic. I think SR would be really neat in Linklater's style of animation. Its a very neat way to both break from reality and yet stay firmly grounded in reality. http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/warner_independent_pictures/ascannerdarkly Too bad it seems to be notoriously slow/needlessly expensive (how many delays has it been?). -- --Max Battcher-- http://www.worldmaker.net/ I'm gonna win, trust in me / I have come to save this world / and in the end I'll get the grrrl! --Machinae Supremacy, Hero (Promo Track) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Bell Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 3:01 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Tales From Earthsea.Anime! On 09/04/2006, at 9:29 AM, Damon Agretto wrote: Brin should be shopping his wares at Pixar or Dreamworks. Can you anime fans imagine how much better The Postman would have been as an Anime OVA? If it was from those two studios, it wouldn't really be anime then, would it? No. It would be CGI. :) Or animation. But not anime. I think anime, in the English speaking world, has a far more specific definition than it does in Japan. I would argue, then, that a movie made domestically could never be anime, since it wouldn't have the little cultural quirks and background what is called anime in the US posesses, and makes it endearing... Agree. It doesn't have to be a Japanese story, but it does have to have that look and feel. Howl's Moving Castle is anime, Ice Age isn't. But I do agree that Startide is far more likely to work as an animated or largely animated feature. (Might work in the Babe style, mind...) You mean with a starship run by pigs? I'm not so sure. Replacing whale song with hog calls might work in Stamps, but that's about it. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
I think SR would be really neat in Linklater's style of animation. Its a very neat way to both break from reality and yet stay firmly grounded in reality. I think that would do a lot to hinder my enjoyment. Dunno, I personally like anime (at least for one reason) for its artistic stylings. Something done in rotoscope (or its 21st C equivalent) always seemed a bit like cheating! :) Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: EE's BRDM-1 Recce Vehicle -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/305 - Release Date: 4/8/2006 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
http://www.animenewsservice.com/ As reported yesterday the Studio Ghibli website has relaunched, their new URL is http://www.ghibli.jp/. Via the revamp, the studio has revealed their next animation film project will be Gedo Senki (with English subtitle TALES from EARTHSEA) directed by Goro Miyazaki (Hayao Miyazaki's son). The new movie is adapted from American writer Ursula K Le Guin's A Wizard of Earthsea. The planned theatrical release in Japan is July, 2006. Additionally on the new site you can view a production and director's diary. Readers may recall on September 20th ANS was the first English news source to report on this possibility. A blog entry of an anonymous editor working for a publisher in Tokyo then predicted the next film animation work to be tackled by Studio Ghibli would be based on the Earthsea series of novels by American fantasy writer Ursula K. Le Guin. When presented with only a last (family) name we incorrectly assumed Hayao Miyazaki would be directing although at the time he was the only publicly known Miyazkai directing films at the studio. The Japanese editor reportedly first learned of this news when a film rights option was being sought by the book's Japanese publisher Iwanami Shoten. The America-based Sci-Fi Channel adapted Le Guin's Earthsea series to TV in 2004 in it's Legend of Earthsea miniseries. The author has expressed her disapproval of the faithfulness to the original works of the above TV version. Hayao Miyazaki, has in the past admitted being an admirer of Le Guin's writings. xponent Anticipation Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
HOLY F^%$# S^*% Damon. As reported yesterday the Studio Ghibli website has relaunched, their new URL is http://www.ghibli.jp/. Via the revamp, the studio has revealed their next animation film project will be Gedo Senki (with English subtitle TALES from EARTHSEA) directed by Goro Miyazaki (Hayao Miyazaki's son). The new movie is adapted from American writer Ursula K Le Guin's A Wizard of Earthsea. The planned theatrical release in Japan is July, 2006. Additionally on the new site you can view a production and director's diary. Readers may recall on September 20th ANS was the first English news source to report on this possibility. A blog entry of an anonymous editor working for a publisher in Tokyo then predicted the next film animation work to be tackled by Studio Ghibli would be based on the Earthsea series of novels by American fantasy writer Ursula K. Le Guin. When presented with only a last (family) name we incorrectly assumed Hayao Miyazaki would be directing although at the time he was the only publicly known Miyazkai directing films at the studio. The Japanese editor reportedly first learned of this news when a film rights option was being sought by the book's Japanese publisher Iwanami Shoten. The America-based Sci-Fi Channel adapted Le Guin's Earthsea series to TV in 2004 in it's Legend of Earthsea miniseries. The author has expressed her disapproval of the faithfulness to the original works of the above TV version. Hayao Miyazaki, has in the past admitted being an admirer of Le Guin's writings. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: EE's BRDM-1 Recce Vehicle -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.0/305 - Release Date: 4/8/2006 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
I read Le Guin at the same time in my life when I was listening to Baby I'm-a Want You and Please, Mister, Please and thinking they were really good stuff, so I'm reluctant to be too excited about this, but Holy Flaming Snot may be right! Dave That is what you meant, right? Land :-) Damon Agretto wrote: HOLY F^%$# S^*% Damon. As reported yesterday the Studio Ghibli website has relaunched, their new URL is http://www.ghibli.jp/. Via the revamp, the studio has revealed their next animation film project will be Gedo Senki (with English subtitle TALES from EARTHSEA) directed by Goro Miyazaki (Hayao Miyazaki's son). The new movie is adapted from American writer Ursula K Le Guin's A Wizard of Earthsea. The planned theatrical release in Japan is July, 2006. Additionally on the new site you can view a production and director's diary. Readers may recall on September 20th ANS was the first English news source to report on this possibility. A blog entry of an anonymous editor working for a publisher in Tokyo then predicted the next film animation work to be tackled by Studio Ghibli would be based on the Earthsea series of novels by American fantasy writer Ursula K. Le Guin. When presented with only a last (family) name we incorrectly assumed Hayao Miyazaki would be directing although at the time he was the only publicly known Miyazkai directing films at the studio. The Japanese editor reportedly first learned of this news when a film rights option was being sought by the book's Japanese publisher Iwanami Shoten. The America-based Sci-Fi Channel adapted Le Guin's Earthsea series to TV in 2004 in it's Legend of Earthsea miniseries. The author has expressed her disapproval of the faithfulness to the original works of the above TV version. Hayao Miyazaki, has in the past admitted being an admirer of Le Guin's writings. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: EE's BRDM-1 Recce Vehicle -- Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408-551-0427 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Tales From Earthsea.........Anime!!!!!
On 4/9/2006 12:38:26 AM, David Land ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I read Le Guin at the same time in my life when I was listening to Baby I'm-a Want You and Please, Mister, Please and thinking they were really good stuff, so I'm reluctant to be too excited about this, but Holy Flaming Snot may be right! Hm.I think the most important bit of info here is that a major Sci-Fi classic is going to get the treatment from a company that makes *very* high quality anime. After sending the original email this afternoon, I gave quite a bit of thought to the idea that Anime is the best venue for Startide Rising. You could never get any better than a sucky live action movie, but an anime could be (for all intents and purposes) practically perfect. Brin should be shopping his wares at Pixar or Dreamworks. Can you anime fans imagine how much better The Postman would have been as an Anime OVA? xponent Find A Manga Artist..Quick! Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
