On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 9:05 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On 24 Aug 2008, at 21:19, Dan M wrote:
If the land produces enough food for the people in a country to live
on,
then the problem of actual starvation goes down. Zimbabwe is a good
example
of this: it was a
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 8:54 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
On 24 Aug 2008, at 22:42, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote:
David Brin wrote:
But of course I am distracted by the elections, hoping
we'll at last save America and civilization from a
criminal gang.
On 25 Aug 2008, at 14:25, John Garcia wrote:
McCain doesn't know how to use a computer. So? What does that have
to do
with
being President?
It means he's completely out of touch with reality.
My choice for President depends on which candidate I think
will
address all the issues
On 25 Aug 2008, at 14:18, John Garcia wrote:
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 9:05 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Why should the white farmers who were born in Zimbabwe from several
generations of people born in Zimbabwe have their property and
livelihoods confiscated either
My choice for President depends on which candidate I think
will
address all the issues facing the USA consistent with my values, not
whether
or not he has a cool Facebook page.
Its not whether or not he has a cool Facebbook page -- its whether he can
understand the massive changes in
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Olin Elliott wrote:
My choice for President depends on which candidate I think
will
address all the issues facing the USA consistent with my values, not
whether
or not he has a cool Facebook page.
Its not whether or not he has a cool Facebbook page -- its whether he
At 08:56 AM Monday 8/25/2008, William T Goodall wrote:
On 25 Aug 2008, at 14:18, John Garcia wrote:
It's clear to me that whatever else is going on, those
currently on top are determined to exact some payback
from those who once ran that country.
And that's never worked well either.
At 08:25 AM Monday 8/25/2008, John Garcia wrote:
McCain doesn't know how to use a computer. So? What does that have to do
with being President?
I dunno. I kept looking without success for the scene in one of
Harry Turtledove's alternate history books which matched the cover
illustration
I agree with John. Both sides offer up trivia to
foster visceral dislike of the other guy, having
nothing to do with how they'd govern. I am especially
uninterested in passing slips of the tongue. BFD.
McCain would re-appoint most of the scoundrels who
have robbed us blind. That's kinda
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Olin Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My choice for President depends on which candidate I think
will
address all the issues facing the USA consistent with my values, not
whether
or not he has a cool Facebook page.
Its not whether or not he has a cool
See:
February '77 National Lampoon --Grand Fifth Term
Inaugural Issue: JFK's First 6,000 Days which
featured a silver-haired JFK on the cover. The whole
issue was a big what if... about how things might
have turned out had the assassin's bullet missed JFK
and hit Jackie instead. A very good
John, if you look to at what Jimmy Carter tried to tell us before his
last failed election run against Reagan and compare it to where we are
today you might reconsider his position in history.
A friend Andrew Bacevich addresses some of this in his new book, The
Limits of Power.(shameless
John Garcia wrote:
McCain doesn't know how to use a computer. So? What does that have to do
with
being President? My choice for President depends on which candidate I think
will
address all the issues facing the USA consistent with my values, not whether
or not he has a cool Facebook page.
Chris Frandsen wrote:
I totally agree with Olin's comments. I am not sure how Obama will
support the scientific community other than getting out of the
business of trying to make scientific reports match political agendas.
I suspect his economic social and foreign policy initiatives to
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This campaign does understand technology by the
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Lance A. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Someone who doesn't know enough about computers to be able to open his
own email (if he wants to) *cannot* have the proper understanding of
technology in today's world to be competent as POTUS.
Technology as an agent
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Chris Frandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John, if you look to at what Jimmy Carter tried to tell us before his
last failed election run against Reagan and compare it to where we are
today you might reconsider his position in history.
A friend Andrew Bacevich
I am not sure how Obama will
support the scientific community other than getting out of the
business of trying to make scientific reports match political agendas.
I suspect his economic social and foreign policy initiatives to get us
back on track will force science budgets to the back
While I wait for a vendor to call me, I thought I'd post some McCain
campaign
stuff about science and the internet, taken from his website. What do you
all think?
*John McCain Would Place A Priority On Science And Technology
Experience.*As President, John McCain will be committed to bringing
On the face of it, none of this sounds horrendous. As with any promise, the
real deal is whether or not he can or will deliver. YMMV. It's all just a
matter of trust.
Exactly. And even if I did trust John McCain personally (which I don't), I
wouldn't trust the Republican machinery that comes
David Brin wrote:
February '77 National Lampoon --Grand Fifth Term
Inaugural Issue: JFK's First 6,000 Days which
featured a silver-haired JFK on the cover. The whole
issue was a big what if... about how things might
have turned out had the assassin's bullet missed JFK
and hit Jackie
...if you look to at what Jimmy Carter tried to tell us
before his
last failed election run against Reagan and compare it to
where we are
today you might reconsider his position in history...
I am not sure how Obama will
support the scientific community other than getting out of
No, but it seems to be typical behavior in politics that
whenever the
current outs get into power one of their first
priorities is to
punish the former ins who are now the new
outs. (Regardless of
which country (state, county, city . . . ) we are talking
about or
what the various
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Olin Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the face of it, none of this sounds horrendous. As with any promise,
the
real deal is whether or not he can or will deliver. YMMV. It's all just a
matter of trust.
Exactly. And even if I did trust John McCain
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Alberto Monteiro
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
David Brin wrote:
February '77 National Lampoon --Grand Fifth Term
Inaugural Issue: JFK's First 6,000 Days which
featured a silver-haired JFK on the cover. The whole
issue was a big what if... about how things
William wrote:
Why should the white farmers who were born in Zimbabwe from several
generations of people born in Zimbabwe have their property and
livelihoods confiscated either directly or through taxation just
because they are white? That's racism isn't it?
Sure, and it was Racism when,
Olin wrote:
And even if I did trust John McCain personally (which I don't), I
wouldn't trust the Republican machinery that comes with him.
I don't trust McCain, I don't trust Republican machinery, I don't trust Obama,
and I don't trust Democrat's machinery.
I do not trust politicians. Do
John wrote:
I am generally in favor of politicians who demonstrate a record of less
government spending and smaller government.
You mean like Clinton?
Doug
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I am generally in favor of politicians who demonstrate
a record of less
government spending and smaller government.
You mean like Clinton?
Doug
Yes, and definitely NOT like Boosh!~)
Jon
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Olin wrote:
One thing that I have not seen mentioned yet about
the candidates is that McCain has a dramatically better
voting record on free trade (one of few points of near
universal agreement among economists is that subsidies and
trade barriers are harmful):
are you suggesting that free
Google maps isn't up-to-date on SH 130 -- is there a good way to get over to
that neighborhood from SH-130? (I flatly refuse to take I-35 that far south
on a weekday evening, Slaughter Lane is about my limit on a weekend during
the day.)
Julia
who gets on SH-130 *north* of the
Thanks for the link, John.
Chris
I do remember Jimmy Carter, even voted for him in 1976 and 1980. Also
watched what
Andrew Bacevich had to say on Bill Moyers (Brian Lehrer on WNYC also
interviewed
him. You can download it here:
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/2008/08/20)
Carter
From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You mean like Clinton?
I was not old enough to vote for Clinton, but retroactively, yes, I would vote
for him :-)
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/downchart_gs.php?year=1970_2010view=1expand=units=pfy=fy09chart=F0-fedstack=1title=
Are you
From: Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
are you suggesting that free trade is fair trade?
I was writing about economics, not morality. But since you asked. I do not
think it is fair for someone to take my money and give it to agricultural
corporations. I do not think it is fair for someone
David,
Looks like you missed a great vacation trip here.
http://www.kurzweilai.net/email/newsRedirect.html?newsID=9269m=22309
Have a great day!
Chris Frandsen
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Actually, I didn't write that. I'm not sure who did. Free/fair trade, though
important, I grant, is not usually an issue I get worked up about. Not sure
who wrote the paragraph you qutoed,
Olin
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On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Chris Frandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the link, John.
Chris
I do remember Jimmy Carter, even voted for him in 1976 and 1980. Also
watched what
Andrew Bacevich had to say on Bill Moyers (Brian Lehrer on WNYC also
interviewed
him.
I don't trust McCain, I don't trust Republican machinery, I don't trust Obama,
and I don't trust Democrat's machinery.
I do not trust politicians. Do you?
Yes, I do trust some politicians -- and more to the point I trust some more
than others. The cynical position that all politicians are
Hi, Chris,
Glad you mentioned that conference, and specifically the Kurzweil link, because
I've been meaning to ask people what they think of him. I'm reading one of his
older books The Age of Spiritual Machines (you've just got to love that
title), and while I find myself very interested in
announcing a new posting on my blog at:
http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/
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Alberto Monteiro wrote:
In Heinlein's The Number of the Beast, the succession
of USA presidents in Timeline 2 is Woodrow Wilson,
Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower,
Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy, ...,
Neemiah Scudder Interregnum.
I guess that
John Garcia wrote:
While I wait for a vendor to call me, I thought I'd post some McCain
campaign
stuff about science and the internet, taken from his website. What do you
all think?
*John McCain Would Place A Priority On Science And Technology
Experience.*As President, John McCain will be
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