Re: [tablatures] tie bug in 2.13.10?

2010-01-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Saturday, January 02, 2010 4:31 PM On 1/2/10 6:57 AM, "Federico Bruni" wrote: Is this a bug of 2.13.10? I assume it is. It is The tied note head in TabStaff is white instead of transparent.. Actually, I suspect that the head is transparent, but it's also got a w

Re: [tablatures] tie bug in 2.13.10?

2010-01-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Saturday, January 02, 2010 6:11 PM Carl Sorensen wrote Saturday, January 02, 2010 4:31 PM On 1/2/10 6:57 AM, "Federico Bruni" wrote: The tied note head in TabStaff is white instead of transparent.. Actually, I suspect that the head is transparent, but

Re: Issue 633 in lilypond: Regression: no more stems in TabStaff

2010-01-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Comment #6 on issue 633 by dirk_van...@telenet.be: Regression: no more stems in TabStaff http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=633 in tablature mode - the stems/beams are not created OS: Windows7 Lilypond version : 2.13.7 - runs in compatibility mode - see attached files, test

Re: [regtests] fermata-rest-position.ly: \fermataMarkup positioned higher then \fermata

2010-01-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:55 AM In "fermata-rest-position.ly": "Fermatas over multimeasure rests are positioned as over normal rests", but, actually, second fermata (produced with \fermataMarkup) positioned "a little bit" higher. It's a small effect, but leads to

Re: [regtests] part-combine-tuplet-end.ly: collision between tuplet digit and partcombine text

2010-01-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:13 AM In "part-combine-tuplet-end.ly": there is a collision between tuplet digit and partcombine text. I've failed to find a bug report for this issue, that's why i'm writing. There are so many problems with part-combine that I think p

Re: Cannot connect tie in a voice of polyphony

2010-01-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Yuji IMAI 今井雄治" wote Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:00 AM I found a problem in polyphony. In version 2.12.2 of lilypond-learning.pdf, sample of page 51 (section 3.2.1 I’m hearing Voices) tie connect properly. But, page 52 of version 2.13.11 tie cannot connect, also voice style does not continue.

Re: Cannot connect tie in a voice of polyphony

2010-01-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Sunday, January 24, 2010 9:02 AM Yuji IMAI 今井雄治" wote Sunday, January 24, 2010 3:00 AM I found a problem in polyphony. In version 2.12.2 of lilypond-learning.pdf, sample of page 51 (section 3.2.1 I’m hearing Voices) tie connect properly. But, page 52 of version 2.

Re: Cannot connect tie in a voice of polyphony

2010-01-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Patrick McCarty wrote Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:43 AM On 2010-01-24, Trevor Daniels wrote: The change took place between 2.13.3-0 released on 2009-07-02 and 2.13.4-1 released on 2009-09-23. I can see no commits which are obvious suspects, so it seems to be a side effect of some other

Re: 2.13.11-1: Y-offset for RehearsalMark?

2010-01-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote Sunday, January 24, 2010 4:49 PM With this example: % --8< \header { tagline = "" } \relative c'' { c c c c \override Score.RehearsalMark #'Y-offset = #3 \mark \default c c c c \override Score.RehearsalMark #'Y-offset =

Re: 2.13.11-1: Y-offset for RehearsalMark?

2010-01-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Monday, January 25, 2010 7:27 PM Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote Sunday, January 24, 2010 4:49 PM With this example: % --8< [snip] % --8< ... 2.12.3 produces "correct&q

Re: CG lilybuntu link issue

2010-01-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:44 PM Subject: Re: CG lilybuntu link issue On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Graham Percival wrote: Could you take care of this with lilynet.net ? Sure. The iso is now available at http://files.lilynet.net/lilybuntu.iso I've updated

Re: Accidentals and Fingerings

2010-01-30 Thread Trevor Daniels
copied to bug list David Stocker wrote Friday, January 29, 2010 3:12 PM Is there any reason why fingerings in these two chords should behave differently relative to the noteheads in their respective chords? It is because the first note in the first chord carries the visible accidental, but

Re: bug team

2010-02-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Monday, February 01, 2010 7:22 PM On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Graham Percival wrote: Since James liked the term, and I like it, let's make this a real proposal. Valentin, Dmytro: do you mind this term? Since you three are the team, your voices count for a lot on

Re: checking CG 7. issues

2010-02-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Dmytro O. Redchuk And 7.6 Finding the cause of a regression may be a job that a non-programmer can do, but it should be notated that one needs to understand git, which most non-programmers are probably not familiar with. Would be great to have this job explained in more details. I feel i

Re: [2.13] Problem with two consecutive interruped lyrics

2010-02-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:31 AM Well, i'd like to ask again: so, it looks like it will never be possible so far? With the new "spacing engine"? (i've attached two images, again, by 2.12.3 and 2.13.12, with skylines) Are the attached images the right way round?

Re: Lilypond documentation stylesheet mismatch

2010-03-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jiri Zurek wrote Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:44 PM The new layout of the web site with the lilypond documentation shows considerably bad in my Internet Explorer. The left green pane covers most of the text in the right pane, so that is it mostly unreadable. How do I correct it to be able to

Re: Issue 975 in lilypond: Font caching problem with networked homefolders

2010-03-08 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl wrote Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:30 AM As part of my testing to solve dylib problems on OSX, I came across the dtruss command Are you sure this isn't an instruction to a nurse? Trevor ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org ht

Re: strange tuplets and brackets...

2010-03-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Arno Waschk wrote Sunday, March 21, 2010 2:59 PM But is there really a difference - from user point of view - between no bracket and an pretty much invisible one? And is there a way to force the pretty much invisible bracket to be visible without actual change to the score content - in opp

Re: strange tuplets and brackets...

2010-03-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Arno Waschk wrote Sunday, March 21, 2010 3:59 PM But should not lilypond define a default minimum-length that makes it at least visible. Or if it does (what i would assume), why does it not work? Well, the bracket is small but perfectly visible in 2.13.14 (the version I happened to use to c

Re: ictus articulation incorrectly placed

2010-05-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Roman Stawski wrote Sunday, May 02, 2010 2:05 PM I see that issue 316 which also talks about about ictus rendering has been postponed. Is ancient notation still maintained? Unfortunately not. Even the documentation was never finally completed. Trevor ___

Re: Issue 1160 in lilypond: css overrides for ie7

2010-06-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
This might be due to the setting of Compatibility View in IE. Activating this in IE8 causes the same incorrect display to appear. Trevor ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-lilypond

Re: must 'layer be "between 0 and 2"?

2010-07-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eluze, you wrote Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:11 PM Trevor Daniels wrote: Mark If you look up layers in the index to the Notation Reference you'll find there that it says the layer property should be set to an integer and most objects are drawn by default with a value of 0 or 1. Als

os.pipe() error in lilypond-book

2010-07-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
When I run lilypond-book with 2.13.26 I always get the error messages below. Lilypond-book with 2.13.14 does not show this error on the same files. I've not yet tried any releases in between. Does this os.pipe() error ring any bells with anyone? This is on Windows Vista. Trevor Running lily

Re: must 'layer be "between 0 and 2"?

2010-07-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Sunday, July 04, 2010 10:11 AM Eluze, you wrote Saturday, July 03, 2010 12:11 PM Trevor Daniels wrote: Maybe we ought to change define-grob-properties to reflect this. this is very confusing! I'll update it to agree with the main text in the NR - it doesn'

Re: Issue 1180 in lilypond: LM 4.5.3 Real music example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

2010-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
When (and where) can I see these changes. So far I am only working with the binary releases, and I don't see this will be changing shortly ... The changes are in git for anyone who can build the docs and will appear in the documentation to 2.13.29 when that is released. I guess verification

Re: Issue 1180 in lilypond: LM 4.5.3 Real music example needs additional tweak (plus explanation)

2010-07-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
OK, then please change the status to fixed. I can't - I don't have sufficient permissions. Or is this impossible because of the 1015 issue? Maybe .. I don't know. Trevor ___ bug-lilypond mailing list bug-lilypond@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/m

Fault in split-line references

2010-07-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
While checking the recent changes I made to the Learning Manual I noticed the following fault in rendering texinfo to html. I don't remember it being mentioned before, and I can't see a reference to it in the Contributors Guide. When a cross-reference in a .itely file is split across two lines,

Re: Issue 1015 in lilypond: doc line width

2010-07-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
No; we should not consider individual examples when deciding the line-width. The maximum line-width should be specified based on: - the whole-page width of the pdf we produce - the whole-page witdh of whatever paper people usually use to print out our pdf onto - whatever additional margins l

Re: os.pipe() error in lilypond-book

2010-07-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
lem and add the issue (or not)? Ralph On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Trevor Daniels wrote: When I run lilypond-book with 2.13.26 I always get the error messages below. Lilypond-book with 2.13.14 does not show this error on the same files. I've not yet tried any releases in between.

Re: Doc-enhancement for Setting automatic beam behaviour

2010-07-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Ralph Palmer wrote Thursday, July 22, 2010 2:29 AM I've run out of time - I just spent about an hour trying to figure out how to mount two different versions on my laptop. I think I've figured it out, but haven't implemented it yet. I tried running Urs' file under 2.12.2, and got errors : er

Re: "Broken crescendo hairpin" snippet in "Expressive marks" is broken

2010-07-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi David I think the snippet is behaving as intended. It is not a bug. It would not make sense to position a pp dynamic mark in the gap created in a hairpin which goes from mf to sff, would it? The hairpin relates to the lower of the two voices, with the gap in the hairpin corresponding to the

Re: "Broken crescendo hairpin" snippet in "Expressive marks" is broken

2010-07-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Sunday, July 25, 2010 7:42 AM "Trevor Daniels" writes: Hi David I think the snippet is behaving as intended. It is not a bug. It would not make sense to position a pp dynamic mark in the gap created in a hairpin which goes from mf to sff, would it? T

Re: Issue 989 in lilypond: ensure that no information is only inthe regtests

2010-08-01 Thread Trevor Daniels
I'd also like someone to review the entries (in the wiki) for markup-eyeglasses.ly - this is already documented lyric-hyphen.ly - half the ly file is not shown in the reg tests and I am not sure what to do here. font-postscript.ly - this i believe is already documented I've added comments

Re: Issue 818 in lilypond: Bus error when adding Instrument_name_engraver to StaffGroup and outputting MIDI.

2010-08-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Comment #14 on issue 818 by percival.music.ca: Bus error when adding Instrument_name_engraver to StaffGroup and outputting MIDI. http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=818 huh. It works just fine with git lilypond, but fails with GUB 2.13.30. Seems likely this is due to referen

Re: Issue 1215 in lilypond: Woodwind diagrams in the NR

2010-08-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
I just took a slightly longer look at the .ly -- the tone of the writing needs to change to make it appropriate for Notation. It's not a major issue, and I still stand by my "Frog: 1 hour", but you should bear this in mind when writing docs for about this. We're not looking for a purely

Re: Issue 1215 in lilypond: Woodwind diagrams in the NR

2010-08-14 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:07 PM On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 04:54:07PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: These diagrams are so good we really should try to get them in the docs for 2.14. ok, then either you or Carl should go ahead and commit them. If they're not i

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eluze wrote Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:20 AM Trevor Daniels wrote: The mingw binary of 2.13.30 gives the following error under Vista on my system: Running lilypond-book Traceback (most recent call last): File "c:/program files/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book.py", line 86, in ?

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-25 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Monday, August 23, 2010 6:08 PM Am Donnerstag, 19. August 2010, 09:43:11 schrieb Phil Holmes: "Trevor Daniels" wrote in message news:3df57d198d544514adecfbe3c1278...@trevorlaptop... > Reinhold's refactoring of lilypond-book modules was >

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
"Phil Holmes" wrote in message news:i53pqa$tp...@dough.gmane.org... "Trevor Daniels" wrote in message news:305ede3e0e3f4cdc926db8734c558...@trevorlaptop... However, I'm now back to my original problem first reported in http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-de

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:33 PM Thanks, Trevor, for you bisecting... The culprit is actually not the refactoring, but a bug fix I did before the refactoring (commit 4da9fc65cbf74f4cbbdb01add4d5f341a16f5065 at 10.06.10 13:01). The problem I fixed with it was quite ugl

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-08-29 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, August 30, 2010 12:02 AM On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 11:25:47PM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: I have to copy an old version of lilypondbook into every new release in order to get a working version. We can't expect users to do that. I'm confused about wh

Re: Issue 1226 in lilypond: lilypond-book in the MinGW release is currently unusable (2.13.30?)

2010-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Comment #4 on issue 1226 by percival.music.ca: lilypond-book in the MinGW release is currently unusable (2.13.30?) http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1226 I think this was fixed with 6e0a478c394f0cd382b46d992362bb2e8f01c409 This is true, but a critical issue still remains as

Re: Chords with unequal durations

2010-09-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Monday, September 13, 2010 4:48 PM That's an illegal merge, since it obscures the duration of the minim. In Nick's example, setting 'ignore-collision allows the noteheads to be stuck on top of each other with no regard for the individual durations: hence the quaver obsc

Re: Chords with unequal durations

2010-09-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Monday, September 13, 2010 6:19 PM What does 'merge-differently-headed mean, then? To permit half-notes (open) to be merged with eighth-notes and shorter (filled-in). The combined notehead is open, but the flags show the duration clearly. Carl Trevor _

Re: voiceOne dynamics should go above the staff

2010-09-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:37 AM -Eluze wrote: i'm not sure i would like the dynamics of one voice above the staff in a polyphonic guitar piece - but you can use \dynamicUp to do so! The authorities are unanimous on this point. Kurt Stone, ch.1, "Placement of Dynamics.

Re: voiceOne dynamics should go above the staff

2010-09-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Sunday, September 19, 2010 9:23 AM Trevor Daniels wrote: We have to be careful to interpret this correctly. None of these writers were familiar with the use of "voice" in the computer engraving sense. By "voice" these writers mean parts that are on one

Re: voiceOne dynamics should go above the staff

2010-09-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Sunday, September 19, 2010 3:54 PM Trevor Daniels wrote: But a quick look through some of my music shows dynamics are more commonly placed above the staff, so I wonder why placing them below is the default? But I don't have any instrumental parts to hand - where ar

Re: Issue 1244 in lilypond: Change to the new website

2010-09-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Comment #8 on issue 1244 by percival.music.ca: Change to the new website http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1244 To comment 3 and 5, Trevor: Aye, that be a good thing. Too many weens be getting themselves in trouble by stumbling across 2.13 without intending to. (so

Re: Issue 1244 in lilypond: Change to the new website

2010-09-24 Thread Trevor Daniels
- Original Message - From: "Phil Holmes" To: Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 6:45 PM Subject: Re: Issue 1244 in lilypond: Change to the new website "Trevor Daniels" wrote in message news:e3a27db9e1c44b78b6c8106695ee5...@trevorlaptop... Graham Comment

Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead to Ghostscript error in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl wrote Comment #2 on issue 1273 by Carl.D.Sorensen: Woodwind Diagrams lead to Ghostscript error in latest git http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1273 Also, please note that we don't file bugs on any versions not yet released, because there really isn't a 2.13.35 yet.

Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead to Ghostscript error in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:51 PM On 9/26/10 3:14 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote: Carl wrote Also, please note that we don't file bugs on any versions not yet released, because there really isn't a 2.13.35 yet. Why not? A bug which happened to ha

Fw: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead toGhostscripterror in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Phil Holmes wrote" wrote in message news:i7ntha$vm...@dough.gmane.org... "Trevor Daniels" wrote in message news:f867cc5a71fc42b7b9f90fbb44692...@trevorlaptop... Carl Sorensen wrote Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:51 PM On 9/26/10 3:14 AM, "Trevor Daniels" wrote:

Re: Issue 1273 in lilypond: Woodwind Diagrams lead toGhostscripterror in latest git

2010-09-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Phil Holmes wrote Sunday, September 26, 2010 6:26 PM - Original Message - From: "Trevor Daniels" BTW, please don't reply to messages in newsgroups. I don't subscribe to any and that makes them very messy for me to reply to. Tricky. I _only_ use a newsreade

Re: Issue 1322 in lilypond: \context must die (whenever \new can be used instead)

2010-10-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham wrote Wednesday, October 13, 2010 4:43 AM Comment #3 on issue 1322 by percival.music.ca: \context must die (whenever \new can be used instead) http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1322 I took about 30 seconds to think about it. Then spend a little longer. - I can't

Re: Problem with 2.13.30?

2010-10-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Sunday, October 17, 2010 4:57 PM On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Trevor Daniels wrote: Looks good to me. I'll confirm when the GUB 2.13.33 for Windows is available. sorry for bumping this discussion, but: where are we wrt this problem? Whoops, sorry, I f

Re: Issue 1364 in lilypond: Enhancement: Dynamics should be printed *above* vocal staves

2010-10-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham wrote Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:02 AM I agree with wbsoft. It's easy to mention \dynamicsUp in Notation 2.1 Vocals -- I'd actually be shocked if Trevor hadn't added this already -- Actually I haven't, but I will. That said, \dynamicsUp should be added to the vocal templates, i

Re: Issue 1364 in lilypond: Enhancement: Dynamics should be printed*above* vocal staves

2010-11-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:19 AM Graham wrote Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:02 AM I agree with wbsoft. It's easy to mention \dynamicsUp in Notation 2.1 Vocals -- I'd actually be shocked if Trevor hadn't added this already -- Actually I haven

Re: Issue 1364 in lilypond: Enhancement: Dynamics should be printed*above* vocal staves

2010-11-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Wednesday, November 03, 2010 11:52 AM On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 10:17:19PM -, Trevor Daniels wrote: So I suggest I insert dynamics and \dynamicUp in just one template - A4.4. ok, sounds fine. Snippet modified in LSR. It should appear in the docs after it&#

Re: Issue 1299 in lilypond: ly/gregorian.ly needs minimum-Y-extent updated

2010-11-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Keith, Mark I think we need to leave this to Mark, so he can coordinate all the changes to the names of the spacing properties. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Keith E OHara" To: Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 1:19 AM Subject: Re: Issue 1299 in lilypond: ly/gregorian.ly needs m

Re: Issue 1298 in lilypond: minimum-Y-extent might be obsolete?

2010-11-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark wrote Wednesday, November 17, 2010 4:46 AM Comment #10 on issue 1298 by markpolesky: minimum-Y-extent might be obsolete? http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1298 IIRC, the obsolescence only applies to VerticalAxisGroup. But VerticalAxisGroup supports the grob-interface

Re: Bug report

2010-11-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Nels Daily wrote Saturday, November 20, 2010 5:04 PM \version "2.12.3" % necessary for upgrading to future LilyPond versions. % I cannot get the manual beams to extend over all of the rests specified. \new staff \relative c' { \time 7/8 r4 e8 r e[ r r] e r r4 e8[ r r] } It seems to wo

Re: DynamicText + SpanBar collision; #'spanbar-padding ?

2010-12-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Mark Polesky wrote Tuesday, December 07, 2010 8:03 AM The \ppp collides with the SpanBar in the example below. \new StaffGroup \relative f' << \new Staff { R1 | f2\ppp r | } \new Staff { R1 | f1 | } could someone at least recommend a workaround to get the dynamics+notes to move to the

Re: Output is all on one line.

2010-12-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joel This error is almost always due to an incorrect duration or an incorrect number of notes, so that notes incorrectly extend across bar lines. Consistent use of bar checks will help to avoid this problem. These are described in Bar and bar number checks in section 1.2.5 Bars of the 2.12

Re: including gregorian.ly breaks lyrics alignment in melismas

2010-12-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Janek Warchoł wrote Monday, December 27, 2010 4:45 PM Ok, so there is no problem with indent, but the notes *are* still aligned wrongly! Look at the "with gregorian" attachment - the gap after first note is too big (i marked it in red). I know next to nothing about ancient notation, but whoev

Re: including gregorian.ly breaks lyrics alignment in melismas

2010-12-28 Thread Trevor Daniels
Janek Warchoł wrote Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:28 PM 2010/12/27 Trevor Daniels I know next to nothing about ancient notation, but whoever wrote gregorian.ly clearly intended this behaviour as the file contains the override \override SpacingSpanner #'packed-spacing = ##t on lin

Re: Adding syllables to grace notes: confusing snippet

2011-01-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jean-Charles Malahieude wrote Sunday, January 09, 2011 6:54 PM This subheading of vocal.itely states: "By default, grace notes do not get assigned syllables when using @code{\lyricsto}, but this behavior can be changed:" The behavior uses \addlyrics, do you agree to instead have it contain:

Re: Oodles of bugs

2011-01-09 Thread Trevor Daniels
James Bailey wrote Monday, January 10, 2011 5:52 AM On Jan 8, 2011, at 10:25 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Is there a prize for the maximum amount of errors in one measure of a real-world piece? The following is the the next to last measure of the two violins of "The Air"™, first typeset with th

Re: Chapter "Collision resolution"

2011-01-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:24 PM Hi, I'm taking a look at the notation manual under "Collision Resolution". The first beat on the second bar in the example has bad output (merges an eighth and a half note while inexplicably keeping the eighth's note head). This is b

Re: Chapter "Collision resolution"

2011-01-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, January 12, 2011 3:40 PM Polyphony is not required here, as a proper notehead merge will do the trick, like the fourth example shows. The fourth example is correct after shifting an _unrelated_ notehead. In LilyPond terms polyphony is required when two (or m

Re: Chapter "Collision resolution"

2011-01-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:23 PM "Trevor Daniels" writes: LilyPond currently has a documented restriction that merging cannot take place if there are three or more notes in the same note column. Here there are three, so the third note has to be moved out

Re: Chapter "Collision resolution"

2011-01-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Thursday, January 13, 2011 12:47 PM I've decided that this is not a restriction, but a bug. Here is the reason: when merge-differently-headed is set and three or more notes are in the note column, heads _are_ getting merged but get assigned the wrong notehead. No, the

Re: horizontal spacing regression

2011-01-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jan Warchoł wrote Saturday, January 15, 2011 9:21 AM > 2011/1/14 Keith OHara : >> The extra-spacing-height seems to do just the right thing. True, it gives >> no extra space when the interval is larger {c be be f } but neither did >> 2.12.3 and I think we don't need it there. > > No, in my opini

Re: Issue 1472 in lilypond: Collision between MMR and key signature

2011-01-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Comment #11 on issue 1472 by carl.d.s...@gmail.com: Collision between MMR and key signature http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1472 To me the root question for Joe's original 1120 fix is probably something like "Do we want to have the same default extra-spacing-height for a

Re: Issue 1483 in lilypond: Lyric alignment is wrong in 2.13.46

2011-01-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Comment #14 on issue 1483 by carl.d.s...@gmail.com: Lyric alignment is wrong in 2.13.46 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1483 Second, I wonder if it might be possible to have a setting, something like make-lyrics-loose, that could be adjusted to let the user select betwee

Re: NR 2.1.2 Lyrics and repeats, improvement proposals

2011-01-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Xavier Scheuer WROTE Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:04 AM Actually I find the advise to have to use \skip "number of notes" really "tricky", not user-friendly at all! The same for the suggestion to use a temporary voice for the repeated section. I have been able to achieve the same (desired

Re: NR 2.1.2 Lyrics and repeats, improvement proposals

2011-01-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Xavier Scheuer wrote Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:06 PM Issue #1401: Doc: NR 2.1.2 Lyrics and repeats, improvement proposals http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1401 has been opened further to my message. Could you update it accordingly? OK, I'll have a look. Also Mats poi

Re: Issue 1495 in lilypond: mac line endings and line commentdisaster

2011-02-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:47 AM test-baseline does not run through completion, so I can't actually do a regression test. Apparently fails somewhere in out-test/71e-TabStaves.ly. I saw this myself recently. It arises because the conversion from the xml files to ly h

Re: Issue 1495 in lilypond: mac line endings and line commentdisaster

2011-02-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Wednesday, February 02, 2011 5:44 PM Nope, the problem is that this file now spits out a warning, which causes the regtests to fail. In particular, with the given tuning the frets of \key c \major b8 \3 8 \5 \6 \6 \5 \5 in PartPFourVoiceOne on string 5 seem to be ne

Re: Lyric misalignment during slurs

2011-02-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Phil Holmes wrote "Evan Ross" wrote in message news:loom.20110205t233639-...@post.gmane.org... Phil Holmes philholmes.net> writes: Could you provide a scan illustrating this, please? It's apparently so common a thing that after randomly searching for madrigals, the very first one I came

Re: Lyric misalignment during slurs

2011-02-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Evan Ross wrote Sunday, February 06, 2011 4:27 PM I have an idea of what I want to see on the page, found one instance of that in this piece, and would like that to be the way my piece is set. And I find it difficult to believe given all the individual alterations one can do in lilypond tha

Re: Lyric misalignment during slurs

2011-02-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Keith OHara wrote Monday, February 07, 2011 7:02 AM Evan Ross gmail.com> writes: Is there no way whatsoever to force a center alignment to the first note of a multi-note syllable? I hesitate to mention it, but, there is a setting mentioned in the Internals Reference, under Lyric_eng

Re: Issue 1463 in lilypond: Writing metadata to the PDF file

2011-02-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote Sunday, February 06, 2011 10:41 PM Another aspect to consider is that the developer bestk knows what a new feature is about and how and in which musical context to use it. A doc writer, on thze other hand might not have any idea where the feature can be used (because

Re: Lyric misalignment during slurs

2011-02-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, February 07, 2011 1:37 PM On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 10:43:27AM -, Trevor Daniels wrote: Perhaps this should be documented. Apart from noting that it must be set in the Lyrics context it seems straightforward to use. Does anyone know of any difficulty with

Re: Lyric misalignment during slurs

2011-02-07 Thread Trevor Daniels
Evan Ross wrote Monday, February 07, 2011 5:04 PM Keith OHara oco.net> writes: I hesitate to mention it, but, there is a setting mentioned in the Internals Reference, under Lyric_engraver, that might do what you ask \set lyricMelismaAlignment = #CENTER This setting is not in the main doc

Re: alpha test, horizontal spacing

2011-02-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jan Warchoł wrote Saturday, February 12, 2011 9:25 AM I agree too, but in my opinion it's a less important problem than the one marked in red in the attachment. (However, it was present in 2.12.3 too). The natural on c is perhaps moved because of the dot on f, but i don't think it should be

Re: alpha test, horizontal spacing

2011-02-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Ralph you wrote Wednesday, February 16, 2011 2:34 PM On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Jan Warchoł wrote: I think i have an idea how to explain this bug. I suppose it happens because LilyPond is not aware that the dot is in voiceTwo context (and therefore lower than usual). compile thi

Regression test failure in 2.13.52

2011-02-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Several regression tests fail in 2.13.52. Beams are misplaced, some randomly in different runs, and some fail with "no beam positions?" error. Here's the output of one: GNU LilyPond 2.13.52 Processing `collision-merge-differently-dotted.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... Preprocessing graphi

Re: Issue 1535 in lilypond: [PATCH] Adding the Tweak_engraver to the Dynamics context

2011-03-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Comment #3 on issue 1535 by philehol...@googlemail.com: [PATCH] Adding the Tweak_engraver to the Dynamics context http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1535 What does this patch fix, and do we have some test input? Phil, it was an enhancement request so there is nothing to fix.

Re: Issue 1527 in lilypond: exact modal inversion

2011-03-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Comment #3 on issue 1527 by philehol...@googlemail.com: exact modal inversion http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1527 This is a bit cryptic to verify. Can anyone provide a test file and description of the change? http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/cha

Re: strange vertical line at staff begin using StaffSymbol #'staff-space

2011-03-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Eluze, you wrote Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:03 PM the example in NR under 1.6.2 shows a strange vertical line at staff begin: \new Staff \with { \override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #1.5 } { a4 b c d } I seem to remember this being pointed out by Valentin a year or more ago. The line app

Re: strange vertical line at staff begin using StaffSymbol #'staff-space

2011-03-10 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:36 PM On 10 March 2011 17:26, Trevor Daniels wrote: I seem to remember this being pointed out by Valentin a year or more ago. The line appears for 'staff-space settings greater than some number around 1.22. I don't recall ever

Re: regression test ‘midi-volume-equaliser.ly’

2011-03-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Keith E OHara wrote Friday, March 11, 2011 2:21 AM This is one of LilyPond's regression tests. (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/regression/74/lily-c64147c6.ly) Some changes before 2.13.53 cause all midiInstrument changes to be placed on midi channel 0. This makes the instruments all soun

Re: Odd slur placement/collisions with stems and flags

2011-03-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
The correct minimum example would be \relative c' { a'8 (c4) } and then this is identical to issue 1327. Trevor - Original Message - From: "Bryan Previte" To: Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 11:42 PM Subject: Odd slur placement/collisions with stems and flags % On stem-down/stem-up

Re: Issue 1565 in lilypond: Changing staff with manual beaming can give very long stems

2011-03-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Here's a somewhat reduced example that still shows the problem. Stems down, the accidental and the manual beam are essential. { \new PianoStaff << \new Staff = "PianoRH1" { \repeat unfold 19 { b'1 } } \new Staff = "PianoLH" { \clef "bass" \repeat unfold 4 { d1 } a,2

Re: lilypond v2.13.54

2011-03-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
On 18 Mar 2011, at 10:58, "MING TSANG" mailto:tsan...@rogers.com>> wrote: Here is the sequence steps: 1. uninstall v2.13.53 (uninstall program came with lilypond) 2. Do PATH on command prompt - lilypond still on the path 3. install v.13.54 4. Do PATH on command prompt 5. Do lilypond

Re: lilypond v2.13.54

2011-03-19 Thread Trevor Daniels
MING TSANG wrote Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:42 PM when install v2.13.54, Panda Cloud Antivirus only indicates 1 virus deleted. when do a DIR on c:\program files\lilypond\usr\bin, there is no lilypond.exe found. The deleted file must be lilypond.exe. I cannot tell Panda Cloud Antivirus to r

Re: Placement of outside-staff objects: bug and behaviour change between 2.12.3 and 2.13.54

2011-03-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Frédéric Bron wrote Monday, March 21, 2011 9:23 PM This is what you get with 2.13.54 from top to bottom: 1 RehearsalMark 1500 (Score) 2 MetronomeMark 1000 (Score) 3 VoltaBracketSpanner 600 4 TextScript 450 5 OttavaBracket4

Re: Placement of outside-staff objects: bug and behaviour changebetween 2.12.3 and 2.13.54

2011-03-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Thanks James. I've just made a more extensive change to the LM so it accords with the new behaviour in 2.13. Trevor - Original Message - From: "James Lowe" To: "Trevor Daniels" ; "Frédéric Bron" ; "Colin Campbell" Cc: "bug-lilypo

Re: Placement of outside-staff objects: bug and behaviour change between 2.12.3 and 2.13.54

2011-03-22 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joe Neeman wrote Tuesday, March 22, 2011 2:19 AM 2011/3/21 Trevor Daniels Two comments. It seems as if the interleaving of the Score and Staff objects now seems to honour the value of 'outside-staff-priority even without moving the engravers into the Staff context. Maybe Joe could

Re: Issue 1569 in lilypond: 2.13.54 breaks NoteNames verticalspacing

2011-03-26 Thread Trevor Daniels
Comment #3 on issue 1569 by carl.d.s...@gmail.com: 2.13.54 breaks NoteNames vertical spacing http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1569 Fixed in a3b2f9e04d71a7d9748aa2d824a16058fd84461b Carl, did you intend your note-names regression test to overwrite the old one with the same n

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