Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk

2014-06-16 Thread Dave Nutter
Good point about the primary barring showing at the molt. If the slaty color of the wing linings and underside of the body head is true, not just reddish which appears so dark because it's dull, backlit, and distant (as our usual Broad-wingeds appear gray instead of pink on the breast when

Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk

2014-06-16 Thread Chris R. Pelkie
I’m hoping Chris Wood or someone who has birded the desert Southwest will take a look. I did some research after Ryan’s post and find the Zone-tailed Hawk a fascinating possibility which does seem to match many images I find online (in Hawkwatch sites, not generic and untrustworthy Google

[cayugabirds-l] Cayuta Outlet Acadian

2014-06-16 Thread Geo Kloppel
I walked down the Cayuta Outlet gorge this morning, looking for the usual specialties. Canada Warblers, Hermit Thrushes, Blue-headed Vireos, etcetera. I didn't find any Winter Wrens, but I feel sure there must be some... On the way downstream I also found no Acadian Flycatcher, which didn't

RE: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk

2014-06-16 Thread Gary Kohlenberg
Ray, I think arguments could be made for a couple species / morphs based on the backlit photos, and I have my opinion, but as you heard the bird call my bet would be whatever the vocalization indicates. I don’t know if you are solid on the calls, but to my ear the Broad-winged “p-s” and

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Cayuta Outlet Acadian

2014-06-16 Thread Bill Evans
I don't recall there ever being more than a pair in the Cayuta Gulf, but back in the early 90s there were 2-3 pairs in the Hendershot Gulf, a bit further down to the southeast. Outside of those territories, I recall only 2 other sites at Conn Hill where Acadian was known to nest. Bill E

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Cayuta Outlet Acadian

2014-06-16 Thread Geo Kloppel
Yeah, I'd like to check Hendershot Gulf again, before the singing shuts down. -Geo On Jun 16, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Bill Evans wrev...@clarityconnect.com wrote: I don't recall there ever being more than a pair in the Cayuta Gulf, but back in the early 90s there were 2-3 pairs in the Hendershot

Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk

2014-06-16 Thread John Greenly
I have watched Zone-tailed in the SW, and they really do fly like Turkey Vultures. Everything I can see in the third picture does look very consistent with Zone-tailed (except for one thing), but if you didn't notice the flight style, it probably isn't one. The one thing is the shape of the

Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk (zone-tailed hawk?)

2014-06-16 Thread Ray Zimmerman
Thanks everyone for the helpful discussion and sorry for my silence (busy with life). Here’s a bit more information. First of all, I’ve added a few more photos, of even worse quality :-/ Here’s an updated link … https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nm25xfhyarydgxg/AAAvRHHfszKtNmiLRVoy-LYWa To recap,

Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk (zone-tailed hawk?)

2014-06-16 Thread John Greenly
Ray, one question: when you were observing through binocs, did you by any chance notice yellow feet, or see the feet clearly as showing up light-colored against the black undertail coverts? A quite noticeable feature of Zone-tailed as I remember. --John On Jun 16, 2014, at 1:10 PM, Ray

[cayugabirds-l] weekend screech-owl youngster

2014-06-16 Thread Robyn Bailey
On Friday night, a group of scolding titmice and chickadees drew my attention to an area of the yard just off my front porch, where I happened to be sitting at dusk. I then heard an adult Eastern Screech-owl calling in the vicinity, and suspected that the scolding was directed at the calling

Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk (zone-tailed hawk?)

2014-06-16 Thread Ray Zimmerman
It is not something that I noticed, but I didn’t look for it specifically either. Ray On Jun 16, 2014, at 1:40 PM, John Greenly j...@cornell.edu wrote: Ray, one question: when you were observing through binocs, did you by any chance notice yellow feet, or see the feet clearly as

Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk (zone-tailed hawk?)

2014-06-16 Thread Christopher Dalton
Hi Cayuga birders, I have been following the discussion with interest and enjoying the back and forth. I have to admit, that my initial impressions were the same as Dave Nutter's - I thought the first photo was a red-tail and the others were of a backlit Broad-winged Hawk. I just thought the

Re: [cayugabirds-l] dark red-tailed hawk (zone-tailed hawk?)

2014-06-16 Thread John Greenly
Nice Zone-tail photo, thanks! this comparison nicely shows what I was trying to say about the straight trailing edge of Zone-tailed, no secondary bulge. Also shows the Zone-tailed's light feet showing clearly against the dark undertail coverts. Okay, I'll stick my neck out and say that

[cayugabirds-l] Syracuse RBA

2014-06-16 Thread Joseph Brin
RBA   *  New York *  Syracuse * June 16, 2014 *  NYSY  06. 16. 14   Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird Alert Dates(s): June 09, 2013 - June 16, 2014 to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.com covering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge and Montezuma Wetlands Complex (MWC)