[ccp4bb] P31 or P32

2014-12-16 Thread RHYS GRINTER
Hi All, This will no doubt show something of my ignorance with experimental phasing, however I'm currently working on solving a 3.8A SAD dataset with Pt anomalous signal. Both Shelx and Xtriage see reasonable anomalous signal to about 7A and seem to get statistics suggesting a solution when I

Re: [ccp4bb] Fabricating hamilton syringe coupler for LCP preparation

2014-12-16 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Hi Thomas We use a very simple solution. We simply shorten a normal needle to 6.5 mm and push it into another syringe that has *two *of the white PTFE ferrules made by Hamilton. (We salvage the extra ferrule from another needle.) We use a 22 gauge needle (not 22S, where the S stands for *small

Re: [ccp4bb] P31 or P32

2014-12-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
If your Pt position is centric then either hand will give a reasonable looking solution but one will generate LH helices and the other right. Model building can break that ambiguity - SHELXE and Buccaneer both will impose correct peptide geometry. But at such low resolution they may struggle..

Re: [ccp4bb] P31 or P32

2014-12-16 Thread Keller, Jacob
What do the twinning tests show? Those space groups can be suspicious, I believe. JPK -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of RHYS GRINTER Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:40 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] P31 or P32

Re: [ccp4bb] P31 or P32

2014-12-16 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Rhys, I would try to place idealised secondary structure elements with coot into the density - at this resolution they probably fit both hands, but you may see a difference when you do e.g. rigid body refinement. Best, Tim On 12/16/2014 10:39 AM, RHYS GRINTER wrote: Hi All, This will

Re: [ccp4bb] P31 or P32

2014-12-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Sorry - of course it can.. Sorry. Only if the twinning is perfect then you apparently get a higher symmetry.. Eleanor On 16 December 2014 at 14:26, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: Dear Rhys, I would try to place idealised secondary structure elements with coot into the density -

Re: [ccp4bb] I am struggling to compile fasta36

2014-12-16 Thread Ronan Keegan
Dear Pietro, Tim's solution should work for you. If not please let me know. From CCP4 6.5.0 (due very soon), the default sequence search tool in MrBUMP will be Phmmer which will be included in the suite on all supported operating systems. So there won't be the need to download fasta

Re: [ccp4bb] P31 or P32

2014-12-16 Thread RHYS GRINTER
Hi Eleanor, The data is perfectly twinned, with the original auto processing assigning a point group of P312, but I reprocessed it in P3 and it seems to be behaving okay. Are there any additional precautions I should take at the phasing stage with twinned data? BW Rhys

Re: [ccp4bb] P31 or P32

2014-12-16 Thread Keller, Jacob
I would say try to get better crystals and data, and also do a MAD experiment. But...perfect twins are really hard, I think. Maybe vary the crystallization conditions a bit, additive screen, seeding, etc. JPK -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK]

Re: [ccp4bb] P31 or P32

2014-12-16 Thread Eleanor Dodson
But are you sure it is twinned and not really P312? Ltest etc is a pretty reliable indicator but the results can be biased by non-crystallographic translation, etc And do the HA sites obey the twinning symmetry? On 16 December 2014 at 16:36, Keller, Jacob kell...@janelia.hhmi.org wrote: I

Re: [ccp4bb] P31 or P32

2014-12-16 Thread Todd Jason Green
I agree here. The 50 % could be a good indicator. I am finishing a new structure which was about 42% twinned in the monoclinic setting (b = ~90) for an Se-Met dataset. When I went to refine it with the native dataset, the twin fraction increased to 50%, figured something wasn't right.

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