[ccp4bb] control of nucleation

2010-05-06 Thread zq deng
hello,everybody . due to excess nucleation,I often get many tiny crystals instead of few,large crystals.i wana optimize the condition, does anyone have adivce about this? Best regards.

Re: [ccp4bb] control of nucleation

2010-05-06 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear zq deng, The standard method, I dare say, in such a case is micro seeding: reduce the precipitant to a concentration so that you just do not get crystals any more, wait until the drop equilibrates (about one day in the case your precipitant is a salt, up to 5-7 days for high MW PEGs), then

Re: [ccp4bb] control of nucleation

2010-05-06 Thread Thomas Edwards
Dear Zq, A few ideas: 1) Vary protein concentration, temperature, or protein : mother liquor ratio. 2) Try dioxane - it is supposed to reduce nucleation. 3) give your protein a good hard spin before you set up drops to remove aggregates. 4) seeded factorial screen. 5) re-purify on gel

Re: [ccp4bb] software to represent raw reflections in hkl zones

2010-05-06 Thread Nicholas M Glykos
... only in the [0kl] plane. ... I'm sure you've already checked, but if during data collection the [0kl] axis was nearly perpendicular to the rotation axis, then you may only have to superimpose (with ipdisp) few suitably selected images to obtain a small (low resolution) portion of what you

Re: [ccp4bb] control of nucleation

2010-05-06 Thread Enrico Stura
Dear Zq CCP4BB readers,The precipitant is the main component that affects nucleation.In specific cases other factors can be used to modulate nucleation as mentioned before by others: protein concentration, temperature, drop size, initial protein/precipitant ratio etc. All good components of a

[ccp4bb] Processing compressed diffraction images?

2010-05-06 Thread Ian Tickle
All - No doubt this topic has come up before on the BB: I'd like to ask about the current capabilities of the various integration programs (in practice we use only MOSFLM XDS) for reading compressed diffraction images from synchrotrons. AFAICS XDS has limited support for reading compressed

Re: [ccp4bb] Processing compressed diffraction images?

2010-05-06 Thread Jim Pflugrath
d*TREK will process compressed images with the following extensions: .gz .bz2 .Z .pck and .cbf -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Tickle Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 6:25 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Processing

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Re: [ccp4bb] Processing compressed diffraction images?

2010-05-06 Thread Tim Gruene
Entering xds gzip at www.ixquick.com came up with http://www.mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de/~kabsch/xds/html_doc/xds_parameters.html: To save space it is allowed to compress the images by using the UNIX compress, gzip, or bzip2 routines. On data processing XDS will automatically recognize and expand the

Re: [ccp4bb] Processing compressed diffraction images?

2010-05-06 Thread Ian Tickle
Jim, thanks for the info. At present we use d*TREK mostly only for in-house data (Saturn, Jupiter R-axis) so the data collection rate is much lower and in any case we would gain nothing by compressing them since the I/O is the same whether it's gzip reading in the images or d*TREK. Our problem

Re: [ccp4bb] Processing compressed diffraction images?

2010-05-06 Thread Harry Powell
Hi Ian I've looked briefly at implementing gunzip in Mosflm in the past, but never really pursued it. It could probably be done when I have some free time, but who knows when that will be? gzip'ing one of my standard test sets gives around a 40-50% reduction in size, bzip2 ~60-70%. The speed

Re: [ccp4bb] Processing compressed diffraction images?

2010-05-06 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Tim thanks for that, sorry yes I missed that page. But I'm still not clear: is it uncompressing to disk or is it doing it in memory? I assume the latter: if the former then obviously nothing is gained. You're right about the compression factor, it's more like a factor of 2 or 3, I should have

Re: [ccp4bb] Processing compressed diffraction images?

2010-05-06 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Harry Thanks for the info. Speed of compression is not an issue I think since compression backing up of the images are done asynchronously with data collection, and currently backing up easily keeps up, so I think compression straight to the backup disk would too. As you saw from my reply

Re: [ccp4bb] control of nucleation

2010-05-06 Thread Mark Brooks
Dear Zq Deng, I've had success with the dilution method as described by Dunlop and Hazes: http://scripts.iucr.org/cgi-bin/paper?en5016 For me it worked for a couple of projects, and gives you a bit more to permutate than just varying the protein:mother liquor ratios, as Thomas

Re: [ccp4bb] Processing compressed diffraction images?

2010-05-06 Thread Phil Evans
Compression methods such as gzip are unlikely to be optimum for diffraction images, and AFAIK the methods in CBF are better (I think Jim Pflugrath did some races a long time ago, and I guess others have too). There is no reason for data acquisition software ever to write uncompressed images

[ccp4bb] Fwd: [ccp4bb] control of nucleation

2010-05-06 Thread Charles W. Carter, Jr
I mistakenly sent this off to Enrico, rather than to the CCP4BB. Apologies to Enrico. Begin forwarded message: From: Charles W. Carter, Jr car...@med.unc.edu Date: May 6, 2010 6:50:23 AM EDT To: est...@cea.fr Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] control of nucleation In fact, there is quite good

Re: [ccp4bb] Processing compressed diffraction images?

2010-05-06 Thread Fischmann, Thierry
The results from compressing a diffraction image must vary quite a bit on a case by case basis. I looked into it a long time ago using images from a few datasets from 2 different projects. Compress was quite faster than gzip or bzip2 in these tests. It also delivered the less compression. gzip

[ccp4bb] wwPDB Announcements: Validation Report PDFs, NMR Restraint Files

2010-05-06 Thread Christine Zardecki
wwPDB To Provide Validation Reports as PDFs As part of the structure annotation process, wwPDB members provide depositors with detailed reports that include the results of geometric and experimental data checking. Beginning May 17, 2010, these documents will be available from all wwPDB

Re: [ccp4bb] control of nucleation

2010-05-06 Thread syed ibrahim
Hi I have succeeded by using oil (such as parafin oil ... etc ) at reservoir on top of the reservoir solution. You have to try several trials to find optimum ratio. With regards Syed --- On Thu, 5/6/10, zq deng dengzq1...@gmail.com wrote: From: zq deng dengzq1...@gmail.com Subject:

Re: [ccp4bb] low resolution secondary structural restraints

2010-05-06 Thread Bradley Hintze
Hi Greg, If you want manual control over user-defined restraints, which I've found helpful when dealing with low-resolution structures, ResDe might help. You can define restraints in PyMol and then save the restraint file in the refmac format. I hope if helps. Here is the link:

[ccp4bb] Processing compressed diffraction images?

2010-05-06 Thread Lepore, Bryan
yet another compressor to consider : xz http://tukaani.org/xz/ hth

Re: [ccp4bb] Processing compressed diffraction images?

2010-05-06 Thread James Holton
Something I have been playing with recently that might address your problem in a way you like is SquashFS: http://squashfs.sourceforge.net/ SquashFS is a read-only compressed file system. It uses gzip --best, which is comparable to bzip2 for diffraction images (in my experience). Basically,

[ccp4bb] Motif searching

2010-05-06 Thread Rex Palmer
Does anyone know of a program designed to both store information on functional motifs in proteins, as described in the literature, and to retrieve such motifs within a given protein sequence? Rex Palmer Birkbeck College

[ccp4bb] OFF TOPIC: Aquifex aeolicus DNA

2010-05-06 Thread Marcelo Carlos Sousa
Sorry for the off topic question but since Aquifex aeolicus is a favorite of many structural biologists I wonder if anybody can point me to a reliable source for DNA from this critter (or any other Aquifex). ATTC does not seem to have it... Thanks in advance Marcelo

Re: [ccp4bb] control of nucleation

2010-05-06 Thread zq deng
actually,the protein grow in too different condition.both have excess necleation,and one condition is that just puting protein in the drop and not mixing with the precipitants.there is one another problem how to cryo-protect. 2010/5/6 syed ibrahim b_syed_ibra...@yahoo.com Hi I have succeeded

[ccp4bb] lossy compression of diffraction images

2010-05-06 Thread James Holton
Ian Tickle wrote: I found an old e-mail from James Holton where he suggested lossy compression for diffraction images (as long as it didn't change the F's significantly!) - I'm not sure whether anything came of that! Well, yes, something did come of this But I don't think Gerard