On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 01:18:15PM -0400, David Schuller wrote:
On 04/01/12 10:18, Gerard Bricogne wrote:
Dear Paul,
May I join the mostly silent chorus of Greek/Latin-aware grumps who
wince when seeing data treated as singular when it is plural.
When it are plural?
Good
...@bioch.ox.ac.uk)
Subject: [ccp4bb] one datum many data? [was Re: [ccp4bb] very informative -
Trends in Data Fabrication]
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
The PDBe page for 3k78 says:
The experimental data has been deposited
the data cif file says:
data is under question
Grump.
Is it to late
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Kevin Jin kevin...@gmail.com wrote:
I have seen several stories like this. Here is an open letter to Nature.
http://www.jinkai.org/AAD/AAD_letter_2_nature.html
I'd like to understand this better : please explain precisely, on this
forum, the connection being
“I hope and believe that this is not the case. Even basically-trained
crystallographers should be able to calculate andinterpret difference
maps of the kind described by Bernhard. And with the EDS and PDB_REDO
server, one does not even need to know how to make generate a difference map
...”
Grumpy old men :-)
I feel hijacked or is hijacketed ?
Don't we all speak and write perfect BE (not as in British English, but more
like Bad English) ?
May the impact factor for TiDF continue to be very low.
Jürgen
..
Jürgen Bosch
Johns Hopkins University
Bloomberg School
What is the single Latin word for troll?
Kendall
On Apr 1, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Kevin Jin
kevin...@gmail.commailto:kevin...@gmail.com wrote:
“I hope and believe that this is not the case. Even basically-trained
crystallographers should be able to calculate andinterpret difference maps
of
Trollus, Trollum, Trolli, Trollo, Trolli, Trollos, Trollorum, Trollis.
David C. Briggs PhD
Father, Structural Biologist and Sceptic
University of Manchester E-mail:
david.c.bri...@manchester.ac.uk
Webs :
orcus impudens
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Nettles
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What is the single Latin word for troll?
Kendall
On Sunday, 01 April 2012, Kendall Nettles wrote:
What is the single Latin word for troll?
Kendall
According to Google Translate, it is Troglodytarum.
But I'm dubious.
I thought trolls lived under bridges rather than in caves.
Except for the ones who inhabit the internet, of course.
David Briggs drdavidcbri...@gmail.com a écrit :
Trollus, Trollum, Trolli, Trollo, Trolli, Trollos, Trollorum, Trollis.
Should we say Alea data est or Alea data sunt ?
Philippe DUMAS
http://trololololololololololo.com/
Trollus, Trollum, Trolli, Trollo, Trolli, Trollos, Trollorum, Trollis.
David C. Briggs PhD
Father, Structural Biologist and Sceptic
University of Manchester E-mail:
david.c.bri...@manchester.ac.uk
I can't resist asking: If we assume that the data fabrication
techniques and the techniques for discovery of such activities should
have the same sort of arms race as the development of viruses and
anti-malvare software (but of course on a much more modest scale since
structural biology is a
really fascinating, bringing back the discussion for a repository for your
collected frames.
Jürgen
Acta Cryst. (2012). F68, 366-376
doi:10.1107/S1744309112008421http://dx.doi.org/10.1107/S1744309112008421
Detection and analysis of unusual features in the structural model and
, and then send the links.
Best regards, BR
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Juergen
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 8:26 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] very informative - Trends in Data Fabrication
really fascinating, bringing back
I don't model zero occupancy in my model. But can't the refinement programs
just treat those atoms with zero occupancy as missing atoms?
Nian Huang
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Bosch, Juergen jubo...@jhsph.edu wrote:
really fascinating, bringing back the discussion for a repository for
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] very informative - Trends in Data Fabrication
I don't model zero occupancy in my model. But can't the refinement programs
just treat those atoms with zero occupancy as missing atoms?
Nian Huang
On Sat, Mar
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Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 12:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] very informative - Trends in Data Fabrication
This is an unresolved problem, and no real
Reading the paper from Dr. Hofkristallrat a.D. and the editorial in ActaF, I
must say that besides the rather reasonable demand for journals to include
crystallography experts as referees, Table 1 would have fooled me as referee.
A validation report of the VTF style might not had helped either
Nice paper !
I really wish PDB could have some people to review those important
structures, like paper reviewer. If the coordinate is downloaded for
modeling and docking, people may not check the density and model by
themself. However this is not the worst case, since the original data was
Given a data set (Fobs or Iobs) and atomic model it is not trivial at all
to tell whether they are real or fabricated.
I looked into this problem for quite some time at some point, and developed
my set of criteria that thoroughly attempt to distinguish between fake and
real, but they can only be
informative - Trends in Data Fabrication
Reading the paper from Dr. Hofkristallrat a.D. and the editorial in ActaF, I
must say that besides the rather reasonable demand for journals to include
crystallography experts as referees, Table 1 would have fooled me as referee.
A validation report
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Perrakis [a.perra...@nki.nl]
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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] very informative - Trends in Data Fabrication
Reading the paper from Dr. Hofkristallrat a.D. and the editorial in ActaF, I
must say that besides the rather
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Reading the paper from Dr. Hofkristallrat a.D
Hofkristallrat außer Dienst, is written as Bernhard - unless you are
referring to some other guy with a french name Bernard.
As one may extrapolate given my recent paper, I have been called names a lot
worse
.
Ø And the book indeed is a bible of xtallography.
Enough of this - it
Btw,
Table 1 would have fooled me as referee.
Not if the bulk solvent parameters would be reported or validated. See
recommendations.
Best, BR
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