Re: [ccp4bb] Devices Suitable to Concentrate Protein Solutions in Liter Scale

2009-09-06 Thread Wu, Zhongren
If you want to just reduce the volume/concentrate proteins, you can use
Millipore's Stirred cell  (high-output stirred cell, 2,000 ml capacity).


 

Zhongren Wu

 

 



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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Devices Suitable to Concentrate Protein Solutions
in Liter Scale

 

Dear Dr Ku,

 

It was a wonderful idea! However, the refolding buffer contained 500mM
L-Arg and 1mM EDTA. 

 

And I want to try other affinity columns, just don't know what resin
would be appropriate.

 

Sincerely,

 

Xuan Yang


 

2009/9/3 Shao-Yang Ku s...@embl-hamburg.de

Can you put a 6His-tag on your protein and add some Ni-NTA beads to your
solution to capture (and concentrate) the properly folded molecules? 



Quoting Xuan Yang pattisy...@gmail.com:

Dear All,

I am working on protein refolding via dialysis in large volumn
(typically 2~4 litters). It was problematic when I wanted to concentrate
the
solution to at least less than 500ml. If you know any device appropriate
for
such task, please help me out:)

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely,

Xuan Yang

 

 



Re: [ccp4bb] Devices Suitable to Concentrate Protein Solutions in Liter Scale

2009-09-06 Thread Pius Padayatti
may be diafiltration devices might work for you. the membranes are
kind of expensive but we had used this effectively to reduce the volume
of cell culture media where we had secreted proteins in large volumes
of culture media.

here is a link
http://www.spectrapor.com/lit/hfdial.pdf


padayatti
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Wu, Zhongrenz...@vitaerx.com wrote:
 If you want to just reduce the volume/concentrate proteins, you can use
 Millipore’s Stirred cell  (high-output stirred cell, 2,000 ml capacity).



 Zhongren Wu





 

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 Yang
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:05 AM

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 Liter Scale



 Dear Dr Ku,



 It was a wonderful idea! However, the refolding buffer contained 500mM L-Arg
 and 1mM EDTA.



 And I want to try other affinity columns, just don't know what resin would
 be appropriate.



 Sincerely,



 Xuan Yang



 2009/9/3 Shao-Yang Ku s...@embl-hamburg.de

 Can you put a 6His-tag on your protein and add some Ni-NTA beads to your
 solution to capture (and concentrate) the properly folded molecules?

 Quoting Xuan Yang pattisy...@gmail.com:

 Dear All,

 I am working on protein refolding via dialysis in large volumn
 (typically 2~4 litters). It was problematic when I wanted to concentrate the
 solution to at least less than 500ml. If you know any device appropriate for
 such task, please help me out:)

 Thanks in advance!

 Sincerely,

 Xuan Yang







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Re: [ccp4bb] Devices Suitable to Concentrate Protein Solutions in Liter Scale

2009-09-06 Thread Pius Padayatti
may be diafiltration devices might work for you. the membranes are
kind of expensive but we had used this effectively to reduce the volume
of cell culture media where we had secreted proteins in large volumes
of culture media.

here is a link
http://www.spectrapor.com/lit/hfdial.pdf


padayatti
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Xuan Yangpattisy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All,

 I am working on protein refolding via dialysis in large volumn
 (typically 2~4 litters). It was problematic when I wanted to concentrate the
 solution to at least less than 500ml. If you know any device appropriate for
 such task, please help me out:)

 Thanks in advance!

 Sincerely,

 Xuan Yang



-- 
Pius S Padayatti
Scientist,
Polgenix, Inc.
11000 Cedar Ave, Suite 260
Cleveland, OH 44106
Phone: 216-658-4528
Fax: 216-658-4529


Re: [ccp4bb] Devices Suitable to Concentrate Protein Solutions in Liter Scale

2009-09-05 Thread Tim Gruene

Hi,

Could you not carry out Ammonium Sulfate precipitation to concentrate the 
protein? I never did it myself so I have no idea if it's practical in this 
case. Maybe it's still worth mentioning, though.


Tim

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On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Radovan Spurny wrote:


Stirred cell from Milipore is very useful for concentrating big volumes of 
protein solution. There are cells from 3 to 400 mL. Ultrafiltration is 
performed through the membrane  with high pressure by connecting to  inert gas 
(nitrogen). It is very fast and comfortable technique. Here are more 
information: http://www.millipore.com/catalogue/module/C3259

Sincerely,

Radovan Spurny, PhD
Laboratory of Structural Neurobiology
Division of Pharmacology
Campus Gasthuisberg, ON1
Herestraat 49, PB 601
B-3000 Leuven
Belgium
e-mail: radovan.spu...@med.kuleuven.be

From: CCP4 bulletin board [ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Yingyun Liu 
[yingyun...@jhu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 16:48
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Devices Suitable to Concentrate Protein Solutions in 
Liter Scale

An anion exchange column with a large enough bed volume might be used to
concentrate the protein. You probably need to change the pH of the
solution so that the protein sticks to the column.

On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 17:05 +0800, Xuan Yang wrote:

Dear Dr Ku,

It was a wonderful idea! However, the refolding buffer contained 500mM
L-Arg and 1mM EDTA.

And I want to try other affinity columns, just don't know what resin
would be appropriate.

Sincerely,

Xuan Yang


2009/9/3 Shao-Yang Ku s...@embl-hamburg.de
Can you put a 6His-tag on your protein and add some Ni-NTA
beads to your solution to capture (and concentrate) the
properly folded molecules?



Quoting Xuan Yang pattisy...@gmail.com:

Dear All,

I am working on protein refolding via dialysis in
large volumn
(typically 2~4 litters). It was problematic when I
wanted to concentrate the
solution to at least less than 500ml. If you know any
device appropriate for
such task, please help me out:)

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely,

Xuan Yang








Re: [ccp4bb] Devices Suitable to Concentrate Protein Solutions in Liter Scale

2009-09-04 Thread Radovan Spurny
Stirred cell from Milipore is very useful for concentrating big volumes of 
protein solution. There are cells from 3 to 400 mL. Ultrafiltration is 
performed through the membrane  with high pressure by connecting to  inert gas 
(nitrogen). It is very fast and comfortable technique. Here are more 
information: http://www.millipore.com/catalogue/module/C3259

Sincerely,

Radovan Spurny, PhD
Laboratory of Structural Neurobiology
Division of Pharmacology
Campus Gasthuisberg, ON1
Herestraat 49, PB 601
B-3000 Leuven
Belgium
e-mail: radovan.spu...@med.kuleuven.be

From: CCP4 bulletin board [ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Yingyun Liu 
[yingyun...@jhu.edu]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 16:48
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Devices Suitable to Concentrate Protein Solutions in 
Liter Scale

An anion exchange column with a large enough bed volume might be used to
concentrate the protein. You probably need to change the pH of the
solution so that the protein sticks to the column.

On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 17:05 +0800, Xuan Yang wrote:
 Dear Dr Ku,

 It was a wonderful idea! However, the refolding buffer contained 500mM
 L-Arg and 1mM EDTA.

 And I want to try other affinity columns, just don't know what resin
 would be appropriate.

 Sincerely,

 Xuan Yang


 2009/9/3 Shao-Yang Ku s...@embl-hamburg.de
 Can you put a 6His-tag on your protein and add some Ni-NTA
 beads to your solution to capture (and concentrate) the
 properly folded molecules?



 Quoting Xuan Yang pattisy...@gmail.com:

 Dear All,

 I am working on protein refolding via dialysis in
 large volumn
 (typically 2~4 litters). It was problematic when I
 wanted to concentrate the
 solution to at least less than 500ml. If you know any
 device appropriate for
 such task, please help me out:)

 Thanks in advance!

 Sincerely,

 Xuan Yang






Re: [ccp4bb] Devices Suitable to Concentrate Protein Solutions in Liter Scale

2009-09-03 Thread Shao-Yang Ku
Can you put a 6His-tag on your protein and add some Ni-NTA beads to  
your solution to capture (and concentrate) the properly folded  
molecules?


Quoting Xuan Yang pattisy...@gmail.com:


Dear All,

I am working on protein refolding via dialysis in large volumn
(typically 2~4 litters). It was problematic when I wanted to concentrate the
solution to at least less than 500ml. If you know any device appropriate for
such task, please help me out:)

Thanks in advance!

Sincerely,

Xuan Yang



Re: [ccp4bb] Devices Suitable to Concentrate Protein Solutions in Liter Scale

2009-09-03 Thread Xuan Yang
Dear Dr Ku,

It was a wonderful idea! However, the refolding buffer contained 500mM L-Arg
and 1mM EDTA.

And I want to try other affinity columns, just don't know what resin would
be appropriate.

Sincerely,

Xuan Yang


2009/9/3 Shao-Yang Ku s...@embl-hamburg.de

 Can you put a 6His-tag on your protein and add some Ni-NTA beads to your
 solution to capture (and concentrate) the properly folded molecules?


 Quoting Xuan Yang pattisy...@gmail.com:

 Dear All,

 I am working on protein refolding via dialysis in large volumn
 (typically 2~4 litters). It was problematic when I wanted to concentrate
 the
 solution to at least less than 500ml. If you know any device appropriate
 for
 such task, please help me out:)

 Thanks in advance!

 Sincerely,

 Xuan Yang





Re: [ccp4bb] Devices Suitable to Concentrate Protein Solutions in Liter Scale

2009-09-03 Thread Demetres D. Leonidas

Dear Xuan Yang,

for such large volumes we use a Pellicon type system. The one we have in 
the lab is a polyethersulfone PTJK prep/Scale TFF 2.5 FT2 High flux 10 k 
from Millipore.


good luck

Demetres


Xuan Yang wrote:

Dear All,
 
I am working on protein refolding via dialysis in large volumn 
(typically 2~4 litters). It was problematic when I wanted to 
concentrate the solution to at least less than 500ml. If you know any 
device appropriate for such task, please help me out:)
 
Thanks in advance!
 
Sincerely,
 
Xuan Yang 


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Re: [ccp4bb] Devices Suitable to Concentrate Protein Solutions in Liter Scale

2009-09-03 Thread Yingyun Liu
An anion exchange column with a large enough bed volume might be used to
concentrate the protein. You probably need to change the pH of the
solution so that the protein sticks to the column. 

On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 17:05 +0800, Xuan Yang wrote:
 Dear Dr Ku,
  
 It was a wonderful idea! However, the refolding buffer contained 500mM
 L-Arg and 1mM EDTA. 
  
 And I want to try other affinity columns, just don't know what resin
 would be appropriate.
  
 Sincerely,
  
 Xuan Yang
 
  
 2009/9/3 Shao-Yang Ku s...@embl-hamburg.de
 Can you put a 6His-tag on your protein and add some Ni-NTA
 beads to your solution to capture (and concentrate) the
 properly folded molecules? 
 
 
 
 Quoting Xuan Yang pattisy...@gmail.com:
 
 Dear All,
 
 I am working on protein refolding via dialysis in
 large volumn
 (typically 2~4 litters). It was problematic when I
 wanted to concentrate the
 solution to at least less than 500ml. If you know any
 device appropriate for
 such task, please help me out:)
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Xuan Yang
 
 
 
 


Re: [ccp4bb] Devices Suitable to Concentrate Protein Solutions in Liter Scale

2009-09-03 Thread ucbccka
1.  Yes, Ion Exchange (not just Anion as we don't know anything about
their protein (unless I missed an email)) is a great capture step if you
have the time to mess about.

2.  When I have been refolding recently, after the refolding step we have
found that a good, old-fashioned Ammonium sulphate cut step (well, two of
them) has worked really, really well.  It takes a bit of tinkering, but it
really does work a treat.  Email me if you want to know about inner design
of such an experiment.  We are working with an untagged version of the
protein as we use yet another affinity step that doesn't require it...
see below.

3.  If you know something about your protein, you might be able to use a
different affinity step to cature it also.

Heparin - Your protein may interact with a heparin column, even if you
have no reason to think it will.

Blue HP - Actually, the only reason I mention this one is that it has
worked so well for one of the proteins I am working on at the mo.  GE
reckon if your protein has an affinity for nucleotides, nicotinamides blah
blah blah it might interact with your protein.  This can be a really
powerful capture column if it does.


4.  A great tag to capture it would be a Z-tag.

cheers

charlie






 An anion exchange column with a large enough bed volume might be used to
 concentrate the protein. You probably need to change the pH of the
 solution so that the protein sticks to the column.

 On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 17:05 +0800, Xuan Yang wrote:
 Dear Dr Ku,

 It was a wonderful idea! However, the refolding buffer contained 500mM
 L-Arg and 1mM EDTA.

 And I want to try other affinity columns, just don't know what resin
 would be appropriate.

 Sincerely,

 Xuan Yang


 2009/9/3 Shao-Yang Ku s...@embl-hamburg.de
 Can you put a 6His-tag on your protein and add some Ni-NTA
 beads to your solution to capture (and concentrate) the
 properly folded molecules?



 Quoting Xuan Yang pattisy...@gmail.com:

 Dear All,

 I am working on protein refolding via dialysis in
 large volumn
 (typically 2~4 litters). It was problematic when I
 wanted to concentrate the
 solution to at least less than 500ml. If you know any
 device appropriate for
 such task, please help me out:)

 Thanks in advance!

 Sincerely,

 Xuan Yang