Re: [ccp4bb] Reproducing crystals.

2011-04-14 Thread Patrick Shaw Stewart
Jun Yong and Jobichen (I've mentioned this before, but ) - both of your projects jump out as very good targets for microseeding with random screens. This method often gives extra hits and better crystals because it is more likely that crystals will grow in the metastable zone. It often reduces

Re: [ccp4bb] Reproducing crystals.

2011-04-14 Thread Chen Guttman
Hey Jun, If it's an old batch check and see if you have microorganisms living in the stock or proliferating in the drop - see the paper by Bai et al: doi:10.1107/S1744309107002904 In this paper they demonstrated how they could not reproduce a crystal hit from an old screen up until they realized a

Re: [ccp4bb] Reproducing crystals.

2011-04-14 Thread Raj Gosavi
I once had a similar problem. The crystals only reproduced when grown in condition containing PEG 8000 from SIGMA but not from FLUKA. This difference may not affect crystals from other proteins but some proteins are more sensitive to slight changes than others. Since you found out that the

Re: [ccp4bb] Reproducing crystals.

2011-04-12 Thread mickael blaise
Maybe your old solution evaporated then you end up in your old tube with a more concentrated solution in PEG and NaCl so try to screen with new conditions with higher PEG and/or NaCl concentration Mick 2011/4/12 Jun Yong Ha j...@princeton.edu Hi all, Recently, I produced crystals with

Re: [ccp4bb] Reproducing crystals.

2011-04-12 Thread Berta Martins
or PEG 4000 got old. ask around in the department or university for old PEG 4000 bottles. good luck! Berta On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:28 PM, mickael blaise wrote: Maybe your old solution evaporated then you end up in your old tube with a more concentrated solution in PEG and NaCl so try to

Re: [ccp4bb] Reproducing crystals.

2011-04-12 Thread Zhijie Li
Hi, Some anecdotes here for your reference: One paper I read says that the authors were having trouble reproducing a crystal from an initial screen. After some debugging, they realized that it was because that they used a same pipette tip when making screens. Adding a little solution from

Re: [ccp4bb] Reproducing crystals.

2011-04-12 Thread Zhijie Li
PS, it might be a good time to start an additive screen. -- From: Jun Yong Ha j...@princeton.edu Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 7:56 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Reproducing crystals. Hi all, Recently, I produced crystals with

Re: [ccp4bb] Reproducing crystals.

2011-04-12 Thread Jim Pflugrath
Frances Jurnak published a paper in 1986 on PEG impurities and purification. As I recall, it turns out that different manufacturers put different additives in PEGs as preservatives. These are generally anti-oxidants. PEGs do get oxidized. I suggest you heat up your new PEG solutions to say 80

Re: [ccp4bb] Reproducing crystals.

2011-04-12 Thread Kendall Nettles
You might also try to control the degree of oxidation using the microwave, and setting up trials after different numbers of cycles of heating. Kendall On Apr 12, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Jim Pflugrath wrote: Frances Jurnak published a paper in 1986 on PEG impurities and purification. As I