Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-11-03 Thread Tony Aiuto
Bob: I have not found any Gould software yet but last night I found a packet of all the UTX-32 documentation on microfiche. When you are ready for it, let me know how to mail it to you. On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > There are some new scans up now for 32/75 on bitsavers.org

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-25 Thread Al Kossow
There are some new scans up now for 32/75 on bitsavers.org/pdf/sel and some software under bits/SEL I'll be working on MPX documentation next On 10/14/16 7:29 PM, Tony Aiuto wrote: > Bob: I may have a lot of software for it, if I can find the tapes and they > are still readable. I even got hol

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-16 Thread Todd Goodman
* Noel Chiappa [161013 16:37]: > > From: Jim Stephens > > > The two bay 11/45 went for twice the bid, since it was listed as 2 pcs > > @ 1500 each > > Yeah, I couldn't quite work that out - did it mean there were two mostly > identical ones, and they only had pictures of one, or did

Re: NWA auctions (GP-4, SEL 32)

2016-10-15 Thread Cory Heisterkamp
On Oct 13, 2016, at 9:33 AM, William Maddox wrote: > This looks like a GP-4, though I am suspicious that parts of it have been > modernized. The GP-4 had a drum memory. > > https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/aspr/Genal-Precision-Systems-2-door-avionics-cabinets/32464723/LotDetail.asp?lid=32464

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-15 Thread Tony Aiuto
Yes. The 8 & 9 machines were ECL, the rest were TTL. IIRC, those were the 32/87, 9780, PN9600. David mentioned disks on the PN (Unix) series. Those were formatted with multiple of 512 byte sectors. The RTM/MPX machines used 768 byte sectors, which was super optimal for the disks they happened to

RE: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-15 Thread Rick Bensene
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tony Aiuto Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 7:29 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions) I used most of the SEL/Gould/Encore machines. The 32

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-15 Thread ANDY HOLT
- Original Message - > From: "David Brownlee" > > We had a PN9080 and PN6040 at City University as the main systems in the > late 90's Ah, yes, "The Magic Roundabout" - was three 6040s and one 9080. I still possess the Gould nameplate from the 9000. They were the last machines we had t

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-15 Thread David Brownlee
On 15 October 2016 at 03:29, Tony Aiuto wrote: > I used most of the SEL/Gould/Encore machines. The 32/77 was an original > SEL design, from before Gould bought them. It ran MPX-32, their real-time > OS. TTL based. The 32/87 was ECL, in a much bigger cabinet. They made > slight hardware changes t

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-15 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Rick Bensene > Some of the machines in the series had a very powerful (for the time) > floating point unit (known as the IPU) that operated in tandem with the > main CPU I wonder if the machines in the auction had this? Noel

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-14 Thread Bob Rosenbloom
On 10/14/2016 7:29 PM, Tony Aiuto wrote: I used most of the SEL/Gould/Encore machines. The 32/77 was an original SEL design, from before Gould bought them. It ran MPX-32, their real-time OS. TTL based. The 32/87 was ECL, in a much bigger cabinet. They made slight hardware changes to the 32/77 an

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-14 Thread Tony Aiuto
I used most of the SEL/Gould/Encore machines. The 32/77 was an original SEL design, from before Gould bought them. It ran MPX-32, their real-time OS. TTL based. The 32/87 was ECL, in a much bigger cabinet. They made slight hardware changes to the 32/77 and 32/75 and released them as the PowerNode

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-14 Thread Al Kossow
I have been given an lot of SEL software and documentation, along with a simulator Now, I need to get off my butt and put it all on line. Thank you for saving the system, Bob. On 10/13/16 8:34 PM, Bob Rosenbloom wrote: > On 10/13/2016 9:01 AM, Rick Bensene wrote: >>> I'm curious what the Systems

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-13 Thread Josh Dersch
On 10/13/16 8:34 PM, Bob Rosenbloom wrote: On 10/13/2016 9:01 AM, Rick Bensene wrote: I'm curious what the Systems 32/77 is.. Wasn't Gould SEL? maybe an SEL system? The 32/77-series was a 32-bit machine implemented in ECL, based on earlier SEL designs, but is definitely Gould in design/manuf

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-13 Thread Mark Linimon
congrats! mcl

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-13 Thread Bob Rosenbloom
On 10/13/2016 9:01 AM, Rick Bensene wrote: I'm curious what the Systems 32/77 is.. Wasn't Gould SEL? maybe an SEL system? The 32/77-series was a 32-bit machine implemented in ECL, based on earlier SEL designs, but is definitely Gould in design/manufacture. Some of the machines in the series h

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread Chris Elmquist
I mentioned to someone else that that 747-400 simulator is, umm, "famous", https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacarias_Moussaoui "Moussaoui allegedly received US$14,000 in wire transfers from bin al-Shibh, originating fromDüsseldorf and Hamburg, Germany, in early August. This money could have help

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread Dennis Boone
> No, it doesn't make an incredible amount of sense for some of this... Considering how many cabinets full of computer equipment were labelled "avionics rack", it's clear the auctioneers had no clue what most of this stuff was. De

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread Josh Dersch
On 10/13/16 1:37 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Jim Stephens > The two bay 11/45 went for twice the bid, since it was listed as 2 pcs > @ 1500 each Yeah, I couldn't quite work that out - did it mean there were two mostly identical ones, and they only had pictures of one, or did

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jim Stephens > The two bay 11/45 went for twice the bid, since it was listed as 2 pcs > @ 1500 each Yeah, I couldn't quite work that out - did it mean there were two mostly identical ones, and they only had pictures of one, or did it mean 'two racks'? Noel

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-13 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Brad H > the 11/45 is from around the early 70s right? First released in '72, if memory serves. It was in production for a _long_ time, though - no later model really replaced it (if you wanted a mid-sized machine with a lot of crunch), unlike many of the other -11's (e.g. /05, /

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread jim stephens
On 10/13/2016 10:20 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote: On 2016-Oct-13, at 12:35 AM, jim stephens wrote: On 10/12/2016 11:04 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: Any idea what this might be? Looks interesting, but not a lot of information to go by apart from the "Display Systems Incorporated" badges... https://gra

RE: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-13 Thread Paul Birkel
eral Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions) $4500! Is it likely a collector or someone that would be using these things somewhere? I don't know my PDP stuff well.. the 11/45 is from around the early 70s right? -Original

RE: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-13 Thread tony duell
> I don't know my PDP stuff well.. the 11/45 is from around the early 70s right? 1972 I think. It's a very nice machine, all TTL (over 1000 ICs in CPU, MMU and floating point processor). I suppose the 11/70 is even more fun (with 22 bit addressing, etc) but the 11/45 is one of my all-time favou

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2016-Oct-13, at 12:35 AM, jim stephens wrote: > On 10/12/2016 11:04 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: >> Any idea what this might be? Looks interesting, but not a lot of >> information to go by apart from the "Display Systems Incorporated" badges... >> >> https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/aspr/Portable-

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread Jon Elson
On 10/13/2016 02:11 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I'm curious what the Systems 32/77 is.. /P SEL (Systems Engineering Labs) 32 bit minicomputer. I think they were bought out by Gould. Jon

RE: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-13 Thread Brad H
er 13, 2016 9:40 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions) Looks like one person got both the 11/45s for $4500 total. Too much for me, but that didn't seem like a bad deal. Kyle

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-13 Thread Kyle Owen
Looks like one person got both the 11/45s for $4500 total. Too much for me, but that didn't seem like a bad deal. Kyle

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-13 Thread Josh Dersch
On 10/13/16 9:14 AM, Al Kossow wrote: On 10/13/16 9:01 AM, Rick Bensene wrote: These are neat machines, and I hope that they end up in the hands of someone that can care for them rather than ending up scrap. hope ht was one of us :-) I ended up with the TI-980. The 11/45's got ou

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-13 Thread JP Hindin
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016, Al Kossow wrote: On 10/13/16 9:01 AM, Rick Bensene wrote: These are neat machines, and I hope that they end up in the hands of someone that can care for them rather than ending up scrap. hope ht was one of us :-) That's what I said when I quit bidding at $180. I

Re: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-13 Thread Al Kossow
On 10/13/16 9:01 AM, Rick Bensene wrote: > These are neat machines, and I hope that they end up in the hands of > someone that can care for them rather than ending up scrap. > hope ht was one of us :-)

RE: Gould 32/77 (was: NWA auctions)

2016-10-13 Thread Rick Bensene
> I'm curious what the Systems 32/77 is.. >Wasn't Gould SEL? maybe an SEL system? The 32/77-series was a 32-bit machine implemented in ECL, based on earlier SEL designs, but is definitely Gould in design/manufacture. Some of the machines in the series had a very powerful (for the time) floatin

RE: NWA auctions (GP-4, SEL 32)

2016-10-13 Thread William Maddox
This looks like a GP-4, though I am suspicious that parts of it have been modernized. The GP-4 had a drum memory. https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/aspr/Genal-Precision-Systems-2-door-avionics-cabinets/32464723/LotDetail.asp?lid=32464723 Someone should grab the SEL machines: https://grafeauct

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread Al Kossow
On 10/13/16 12:11 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > What are those modern looking peripherals? Looks like storage, it might > be the real find here. > They are Wilson Labs disk emulators. Like I said, someone needs to get these.

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread Ben Sinclair
I just now realized that these auctions are out of a Delta Airlines facility! Plus they are in MN, so within range of myself. On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:32 AM, Ben Sinclair wrote: > Check out this video of a flight simulator running on some PDP-11s: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-DpcvY4aBk >

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread Ben Sinclair
Check out this video of a flight simulator running on some PDP-11s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-DpcvY4aBk Those rack mounted zip drives look like the same devices in the "Decpack avionics cabinet" auction. They're calling them "avionics," so I wonder if these are from a flight simulator? O

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread P Gebhardt
>https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590&gl=288#288 > >someone needs to grab those 11/45's! Again on the wrong side of the pond :((( --- Pierre's collection of classic computers moved to: http:

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread jim stephens
On 10/12/2016 11:04 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: Any idea what this might be? Looks interesting, but not a lot of information to go by apart from the "Display Systems Incorporated" badges... https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/aspr/Portable-simulator-display-screens/32464587/LotDetail.asp?lid=32464

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread E. Groenenberg
On Thu, October 13, 2016 06:13, Al Kossow wrote: > https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590&gl=288#288 > > someone needs to grab those 11/45's! > > There are a few DEC terminals & printers too, as well as a Documentum M200 punchcard reader. Ed -- Ik email, dus ik besta. BTC :

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread jim stephens
On 10/13/2016 12:11 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: Also don't miss out on the VT330 (color graphics terminal!) and Documation card reader. I'm curious what the Systems 32/77 is.. Wasn't Gould SEL? maybe an SEL system? /P

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread COURYHOUSE
they were pretty famous for running simulators for pilot training Ed# _www.smacc.org_ (http://www.smacc.org) In a message dated 10/13/2016 12:19:45 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, dersc...@gmail.com writes: The Systems 32/77 is a Gould/SEL machine. 32-bit, ECL. I don't know too m

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread jim stephens
On 10/12/2016 11:46 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:49:50AM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: Printronix Printronixes, plural. fwiw I also went through the "day 2" auction and although there are some open-frame aluminum racks, most of the items of interest to this list are in the

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread Josh Dersch
On 10/13/16 12:11 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 09:13:19PM -0700, Al Kossow wrote: https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590&gl=288#288 someone needs to grab those 11/45's! What are those modern looking peripherals? Looks like storage, it might be the

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-13 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 09:13:19PM -0700, Al Kossow wrote: > https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590&gl=288#288 > > someone needs to grab those 11/45's! > What are those modern looking peripherals? Looks like storage, it might be the real find here. Also don't miss out on

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:49:50AM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: > Printronix Printronixes, plural. fwiw I also went through the "day 2" auction and although there are some open-frame aluminum racks, most of the items of interest to this list are in the "day 1" auction. No, I'm not just saying this

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread Josh Dersch
On 10/12/16 10:49 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: please someone tell me they are going to bid on the 11/45, and the Printronix as well, to stop me from driving all the way up there from Austin. Thanks. mcl I bid on one of the 11/45s (the ugly one in the single rack), but feel free to drive up for t

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread COURYHOUSE
I suspect the bidding will be brisk with the peripherals... also be shure to see theframe with the documstion card reader In a message dated 10/12/2016 9:38:03 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, dersc...@gmail.com writes: On 10/12/16 9:13 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > https://grafeauct

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread Adrian Stoness
someone should enquire about the raised floor On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > On 10/12/16 10:08 PM, jim stephens wrote: > > >> >> On 10/12/2016 9:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: >> >>> >>> On 10/12/16 9:13 PM, Al Kossow wrote: >>> https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catal

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread Josh Dersch
On 10/12/16 10:08 PM, jim stephens wrote: On 10/12/2016 9:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: On 10/12/16 9:13 PM, Al Kossow wrote: https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590&gl=288#288 someone needs to grab those 11/45's! Thanks for the tip! Against my better judgement I put

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread Mark Linimon
please someone tell me they are going to bid on the 11/45, and the Printronix as well, to stop me from driving all the way up there from Austin. Thanks. mcl

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread Bob Rosenbloom
Sent, poorly, from my iPad. > On Oct 12, 2016, at 10:08 PM, jim stephens wrote: > > > >> On 10/12/2016 9:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: >> >>> On 10/12/16 9:13 PM, Al Kossow wrote: >>> https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590&gl=288#288 >>> >>> someone needs to grab those 11

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread jim stephens
On 10/12/2016 9:37 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: On 10/12/16 9:13 PM, Al Kossow wrote: https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590&gl=288#288 someone needs to grab those 11/45's! Thanks for the tip! Against my better judgement I put in a bid on the one without the trim on the

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread Jason T
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590&gl=288#288 There are a lot of interesting items/lots in this auction. I hope whoever ends up with the main bits finds the extras as well. Wonder if the /45 controlled their flight s

Re: NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread Josh Dersch
On 10/12/16 9:13 PM, Al Kossow wrote: https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590&gl=288#288 someone needs to grab those 11/45's! Thanks for the tip! Against my better judgement I put in a bid on the one without the trim on the faceplate... - Josh

NWA auctions

2016-10-12 Thread Al Kossow
https://grafeauction.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=117590&gl=288#288 someone needs to grab those 11/45's!