On 06/08/2019 16:38, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
The VAX 11/780 definitely had PDP-11 emulation, apparently in the
microcode. I'm kind of guessing the 750 and 730 also had this. As far
as I know, no later machines had hardware (microcode) emulation, and
did it all by software. It didn't take
If I am not mistaken the 8600/50 were the last VAXen to feature PDP-11
emulation. After VMS 3.x the functionality was dropped so it was very short
lived on the 8600.
Ray
On 08/06/2019 03:42 AM, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote:
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Subject: Re: Alphaservers for free in Athabasca, Alberta
On 8/5/19 8:40 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
Now why could
> On Aug 5, 2019, at 11:41 PM, Richard Loken via cctalk
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> On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, Boris Gimbarzevsky wrote:
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>> A mere 579 miles from Kamloops. Unfortunately have to talk to my wife who
>> thinks I have too many computers even though I've given away bulk of my DE
On 8/5/19 11:24 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> On 8/5/19 8:40 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
>> Now why could it not be a nice little PDP 11.
>
> I thought that it could be if it was running emulation software.
>
> Or was that more that the VAX-11 could emulate a PDP-11 up to a specific
> versi
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> On 8/5/19 8:40 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
> > Now why could
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, Boris Gimbarzevsky wrote:
A mere 579 miles from Kamloops. Unfortunately have to talk to my wife who
thinks I have too many computers even though I've given away bulk of my DEC
stuff. Never got a chance to play around on Alpha as it came out during my
Mac days.
A mere 1,
Had to give away my Minc system with 2 RLO2
drives and 2 RK03 drives but it did go to a good
home. Have a couple of 11/23 systems left but
have been in storeage long enough that can't fire
them up without first totally going over power
supplies as large electrolytics don't age
well. My wife
On 8/5/19 8:40 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
Now why could it not be a nice little PDP 11.
I thought that it could be if it was running emulation software.
Or was that more that the VAX-11 could emulate a PDP-11 up to a specific
version & hardware combination? (Read: Did this functionality not g
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019, ben via cctalk wrote:
Now why could it not be a nice little PDP 11.
Ben.
I once had a pDp11/04 which I let go, it did not seem like much at the
time but now I feel differantly.
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Athabasca, Alberta
On 8/5/2019 6:51 PM, Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctalk wrote:
A mere 579 miles from Kamloops. Unfortunately have to talk to my wife
who thinks I have too many computers even though I've given away bulk of
my DEC stuff. Never got a chance to play around on Alpha as it came out
during my Mac days.
A mere 579 miles from Kamloops. Unfortunately have to talk to my
wife who thinks I have too many computers even though I've given away
bulk of my DEC stuff. Never got a chance to play around on Alpha as
it came out during my Mac days.
I have access to 3 ES45s, a DS15, and an RA8000 in a tall
On 8/5/19 12:50 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote:
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 10:39:01AM -0600, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote:
Athabasca, Alberta is about 1.000km North of the US Montana border
and 10,000km from nowhere
And 2,248 miles from my house, according to Google Maps :-)
I'll bet it
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 10:39:01AM -0600, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote:
> Athabasca, Alberta is about 1.000km North of the US Montana border
> and 10,000km from nowhere
And 2,248 miles from my house, according to Google Maps :-)
I'll bet it would be a pretty road trip but I think I'll have to p
> On Aug 5, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Seth Morabito via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> I'm tempted, but... I don't know where I'd put it. I'm clean out of room for
> a whole rack :(
Seth,
you just need to think about this objectively.
Alphaserver rack ….. refrigerato
On Mon, Aug 5, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Richard Loken via cctalk wrote:
> I have access to 3 ES45s, a DS15, and an RA8000 in a tall blue Compaq rack
> in Athabasca, Alberta. All the in-service disks were removed but all the
> spares are available. The box also has the fibre switches used the connect
I've got two, the first being an 3000/400 64mb with two 146 gb SCSI-320
drives running on converters, one with openBSD 6 and the other with
openvms 8.4 running headless. I doubt I'll ever be able to find the
monitor, much less the needed cables and keyboard/mouse to turn it into
the desktop it was
f Of
> Douglas
> > > Taylor via cctalk
> > > Sent: 19 March 2018 15:39
> > > To: Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk
> > > Subject: Re: AlphaServers
> > >
> > > Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
> > >
> >
> > I suppose it depend
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> > Taylor via cctalk
> > Sent: 19 March 2018 15:39
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> > Subject: Re: AlphaServers
> >
> > Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
> >
>
> I suppose it depends on what you mean
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> Taylor via cctalk
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> Subject: Re: AlphaServers
>
> Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
>
I suppose
Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
I have a running;
1000A 4/266 with 384MB Ram an full compliment of Storage Works disks
(has redundant power supplies and a nice roll around cabinet)
3000-300 booting from a SCSI2SD disk, (this is nice since it is kind of
light and can be picked up and move
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, Zane Healy wrote:
I’ve been using the HP SFF systems. I think the i5 I got specifically
to run SIMH is a 6300. It’s an i5-3470 3.2Ghz system with 4 GB RAM. I
had to add a hard drive, but had an old 500GB drive laying around.
That’s plenty big to backup and migrate the d
> On Mar 14, 2018, at 12:40 PM, geneb via cctalk wrote:
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> On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, Zane Healy wrote:
>
>> I’m currently using Ubuntu (I’ve run SIMH a lot of different UNIX & Linux
>> flavors over the years).
>>
>> With the ESXI and RPi systems, I’m using the version of SIMH/VAX that Ubuntu
>>
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018, Zane Healy wrote:
Really on the VAX side, emulation makes sense. For $75, I picked up a
HP i5 system that’s dedicated to running SIMH 24x7, and I also have
SIMH running on my HP i7 ESXI system, and on a RPi2. The i7 is my
fastest “VAX”.
Zane, what's the host OS that
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 1:54 PM, geneb via cctalk wrote:
>
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2018, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Really on the VAX side, emulation makes sense. For $75, I picked up a HP i5
>> system that’s dedicated to running SIMH 24x7, and I also have SIMH running
>> on my HP i7 ESXI syst
>Maybe someone on CC can ID them
Looks like an 800, DS20 and either a 1200 or early DS20 which was built into a
1200 case.
Sent from my iPhone
> On 14 Mar 2018, at 17:27, Pete Lancashire via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Maybe someone on CC can ID them
The are in Oregon about 25 miles west of Portland. I don't remember the
model numbers. It maybe some time before I can get to them,
but they to go, where they are being stored needs to be emptied of
anything of value by early July. What is left will go to recycle or
metal scrap. I am looking for
What models are these? You said they’re in Oregon?
Zane
> On Mar 14, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> so do the 3 macines go in the scrap pile ?
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/fx4Dw6RrQgVJBXWo1
Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk wrote:
> Place your wagers...
>
>
> How many more years do you think it'll take before decent, practical-sized
> Alphas, like the DS15, and to some degree, the DS10, will be obtainable at
> hobbyist-friendly prices?
>
>
> I have an ES47 I got for a price I could
so do the 3 macines go in the scrap pile ?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fx4Dw6RrQgVJBXWo1
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 6:54 AM, Toby Thain via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 2018-03-14 6:55 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> > On 14 March 2018 at 11:06, Adrian Graham via cctalk
> > w
On 2018-03-14 6:55 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> On 14 March 2018 at 11:06, Adrian Graham via cctalk
> wrote:
>>
>> I'm in the process of giving
>> some of them away though because they take up too much room.
>
> The OpenBSD project are, or were, looking for donations of high-end
> VAXstati
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 12:02:24PM +, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
Cause/effect error. I offered my 4000/60 to him when I was leaving the
country in 2014. After some weeks of consideration, during which time
I packed it up and got it delivered to Red Hat in Farnborough, he
decided he didn't
On 14 March 2018 at 12:54, Michael-John Turner wrote:
>
> I'm guessing the lack of interest from Theo may have been because the VAX
> port was dropped after OpenBSD 5.9[1]. Was rather sad when that happened as
> NetBSD's VAX support isn't in a great state these days.
>
> [1] https://www.openbsd.or
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:44:15PM +, Kyle Owen via cctalk wrote:
Several people have now mentioned they have dead Alphas. What is generally
failing about them?
A number of years ago I had an AlphaServer 2100 running Tru64 that just
died. It worked fine one day and the next day started dis
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:55:18AM +, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
But if anyone is willing to donate a /90 or similar, he might be
interested.
I'm guessing the lack of interest from Theo may have been because the VAX
port was dropped after OpenBSD 5.9[1]. Was rather sad when that happene
On 14 March 2018 at 11:06, Adrian Graham via cctalk
wrote:
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> I'm in the process of giving
> some of them away though because they take up too much room.
The OpenBSD project are, or were, looking for donations of high-end
VAXstations. I offered them a VAXstation 4000/60 (Red Hat offered to
spons
> Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
I'm lucky enough to be in a position where they drop out of the woodwork
into my lap, the biggest being a DS25 running Tru64 and the smallest being
the Multia NT Workstation. Ones in use fairly regularly are a DS10 along
with my VAX 3100/90 from an old workpla
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> So for the most part, no hobbyists are running DS15’s? I’m sort of surprised
> that there’s that many still in critical production roles. Where’s all the
> VAR guys trying to help people migrate? Haha.
A better questio
> DEC PC-form-factor motherboard. I can't remember the model number,
> but this fits in a standard PC tower case. Made to run WinNT or UNIX.
Probably one of the 164LXes or similar. I have a 164LX here running Tru64
and OpenGenera.
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:25 AM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk
> wrote:
>> Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
>
> I did a bit of work on Alphas from 1997-2003 but at home I have...
>
> DEC 4000 AXP - works fine, haven't powered it on in a whi
So for the most part, no hobbyists are running DS15’s? I’m sort of surprised
that there’s that many still in critical production roles. Where’s all the VAR
guys trying to help people migrate? Haha.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 2:09 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On T
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:25 AM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk
> wrote:
> > Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
>
>
I am working through some new to me VAX/Alphas/QBUS parts from the other
weekend.
http://vi
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
Really on the VAX side, emulation makes sense. For $75, I picked up a
HP i5 system that’s dedicated to running SIMH 24x7, and I also have SIMH
running on my HP i7 ESXI system, and on a RPi2. The i7 is my fastest
“VAX”.
Zane, what's the hos
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:25 AM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk
wrote:
> Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
I did a bit of work on Alphas from 1997-2003 but at home I have...
DEC 4000 AXP - works fine, haven't powered it on in a while. I have
to unplug my VAX 8300 to plug the DEC 4000 in - I on
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 5:44 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Several people have now mentioned they have dead Alphas. What is generally
> failing about them?
>
> Kyle
My DEC AlphaStation PWS 433au lost a PCI slot, after I used it for a few years.
I ran it like that for several years unt
d go crank but usually it was
a 6 or seven year old box that was well past its best before date...
Dave
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> When my 1000 started failing, the manual lead me to believe it was b-cache,
> but the jumper map wound up to be wrong,
>
There are a number of variants and the manuals are extremely unclear.
>
> it was actually failed RAM.
>
I forgot. I had that too. The firmware is supposed to specify whi
If anyone is in or near Portland Oregon and interested, they are available.
There are also at least 2 x 14 drive SCSI arrays, cables, etc.
At one time I was offered a 5 rack fully redundant Alpha setup based on 3
40's or 45's Two servers were running with one is hot standby, the 3rd was
a cold st
On Mar 13, 2018, at 12:26 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk
wrote:
> On 13 March 2018 at 05:25, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk
> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
>
> I never got my hands on one, although there was a time when I coveted one.
>
> (Now as I am -- well, not homeless, but
So, B-Cache is a common failure; any idea what specifically is failing
about it?
I've got a 1000A, but its been years since I've tried booting it. It was
successfully booting when I last tried it, however. I think I've got Tru64
installation media somewhere around here, too...
Kyle
On 13 March 2018 at 05:25, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
I never got my hands on one, although there was a time when I coveted one.
(Now as I am -- well, not homeless, but I don't have a house any more,
or indeed an apartment of my own -- I am confin
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 7:44 AM, Kyle Owen via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Several people have now mentioned they have dead Alphas. What is generally
> failing about them?
>
> Kyle
When my 1000 started failing, the manual lead me to believe it was b-cache, but
the jumper map wound up to be wrong, it w
>
> Several people have now mentioned they have dead Alphas. What is generally
> failing about them?
>
The B-Cache on the CPU card on every Alphaserver 1000A I have laid eyes on has
failed at some point. It can be disabled with a jumper but this makes the
machine a lot slower for some tasks. I h
In my cases all three just one day became inoperative.
I have heard of power supply failures, but none of mine had that.
The first two had redundant PSU's and the third had a standard PC type PSU
and the disks and CD's worked even after the motherboard became dead
enough to not even do the POST
Several people have now mentioned they have dead Alphas. What is generally
failing about them?
Kyle
An interesting discussion, especially considering the stuff usually
spoken in comp.os.vms regardiong the viability of X86 boxes.
I have had 3 Alphas. Two of the office refrigerator sized boxes
and one of the PC Tower sized boxes. All three have died. In
the meantime I have X86 based boxes that
>
> How many more years do you think it'll take before decent, practical-sized
> Alphas, like the DS15, and to some degree, the DS10, will be obtainable at
> hobbyist-friendly prices?
>
A former colleague of mine has a DS10L. I don't like these very much. It
makes the wrong kind of noise, a loud
I know of 3 desk side DS's, one was fully operational before going into
storage, all ran when I got them.
boxes of new Tru64 still shrink wrapped, and a binder full of keys for > 20
Alpha's
-pete
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:25 PM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Pla
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:25 PM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I have an ES47 I got for a price I could stomach, but it's sans rail kit,
> drinks power like it's going out of style, and can anchor a 40-ft yacht.
>
> Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
I have a 2 drawer / 4 processor ES
On Tue, 13 Mar 2018, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk wrote:
Anyone out there do Alphas anymore?
Well my AS4100 is running OpenVMS even as we speak. I have an Alphastation
500 here doing nothing. I arranged for somebody to get two free DS20Es
last year so, yes, I still do alphas.
Intel? Don't
I have a Compaq XP1000/667 that’s my primary VMS system. I picked up a couple
XP1000’s a little over a decade ago when they were affordable, as a replacement
for my AlphaStation 433au. I need a new power supply for the /500. I think
the days of hobbyist-friendly prices are largely gone.
Real
I've often wondered that myself ... I wonder if someone out there is still
using Alpha machines in a mission-critical application ... of if it's just
kind of the storied history of the CPU, and the strong collector market for
anything that's DEC ... Nice stuff from the later years really seems to
h
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015, Toby Thain wrote:
> On 2015-06-19 10:51 AM, Benjamin Huntsman wrote:
> > Does anyone here know why certain AlphaServers are worth such seemingly
> > high prices on eBay still?
> The obvious(?) answer is that they are still used commercially.
>
> I think this explains the phen
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Benjamin Huntsman
wrote:
> Does anyone here know why certain AlphaServers are worth such seemingly high
> prices on eBay still?
>
> Particularly the DS15's seem to be worth their weight in gold, and the DS10's
> still sell for quite a bit. I see DS25's and ES47/
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015, Benjamin Huntsman wrote:
> Does anyone here do Alpha gear, especially the newer stuff?
I am baby sitting three ES45s, two DS20s, and a DS15 all running Tru64 Unix
5.X. Yes, you can buy a used Dell desktop at any garage sale that has more
memory and CPU than a DS20 but it doe
On 2015-06-19 10:51 AM, Benjamin Huntsman wrote:
Does anyone here know why certain AlphaServers are worth such seemingly high
prices on eBay still?
The obvious(?) answer is that they are still used commercially.
I think this explains the phenomenon for even older hardware than Alpha too.
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