Re: [cellml-discussion] CellML meetings - can we shift to conference calls?

2006-10-30 Thread Matt
up with. cheers Matt On 10/30/06, Nigel Lovell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Thanks for also CCing us in Sydney. We would certainly be happy to contribute to a conference call once every two months. We have been continuing to develop tools for parameter optmisation of CellML models

[cellml-discussion] simulation metadata editing

2006-12-04 Thread Matt
or result sets can be detected. This part of the discussion thread seems to belong on CellML discussion now. cheers Matt ___ cellml-discussion mailing list cellml-discussion@cellml.org http://www.cellml.org/mailman/listinfo/cellml-discussion

Re: [cellml-discussion] Proposal: BCP for including external codeinCellML models

2007-03-18 Thread Matt
to a repository and becomes licensed according to that, then the URL should probably be related to that. So I think ultimately the domain that wants to guarantee that the source is perpetually available should be the domain that forms the base of the URL. cheers Matt On 3/18/07, Andrew Miller [EMAIL

Re: [cellml-discussion] Proposal: BCP for including external codeinCellML models

2007-03-18 Thread Matt
On 3/19/07, Andrew Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt wrote: I have often thought referencing external code through a clearly defined interface would be useful, and mostly because procedural code is another natural way to solve problems. But I have always banged my head up against

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-03-28 Thread Matt
, and whether we should be complimenting bibliographic data with pubmed Ids and the like. cheers Matt On 3/29/07, Andrew Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, As discussed at the last CellML meeting, there are some models which reference both the paper about the model, and a reference about

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-03-28 Thread Matt
in your picture :-) thanks again cheers Matt On 3/29/07, Melanie Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, I haven't posted to this list in a long time... But I feel compelled to give a little advice as someone who's spent a lot of time integrating biological information and therefore has made a lot

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-03-29 Thread Matt
, there is a CellML paper published in one that is not), so the model needs to handle full citation info, too. The BQS model handles both, and then some, which is why we chose it. Hope this is helpful, Melanie --- Andrew Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt wrote: I don't think

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-03-29 Thread Matt
On 3/29/07, Nicolas Le Novere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Matt wrote: Can you explain in more detail or point to explanations of bqmodel:isDescribedBy? You can find some explanations at: http://www.ebi.ac.uk/compneur-srv/miriam-main/mdb?section=qualifiers So

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-04-01 Thread Matt
) didn't interest you so much. cheers Matt -- Nicolas LE NOVERE, Computational Neurobiology, EMBL-EBI, Wellcome-Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridge, CB10 1SD, UK Tel: +44(0)1223494521, Fax: +44(0)1223494468, Mob: +44(0)7833147074 http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~lenov, AIM:nlenovere, MSN:[EMAIL

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-04-02 Thread Matt
)1223494468, Mob: +44(0)7833147074 http://www.ebi.ac.uk/~lenov, AIM:nlenovere, MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ cellml-discussion mailing list cellml-discussion@cellml.org http://www.cellml.org/mailman/listinfo/cellml-discussion Matt

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-04-02 Thread Matt
On 4/3/07, Nicolas Le Novere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You will always need to pull apart the 'URI' (table2 MIRIAM document) to retrieve the datatype and identifier. Well, yes you have to recognise what belongs to the data-type and what belong to the identifier. But you do that all the time

Re: [cellml-discussion] model variants(?): e.g. where multiple cell types are described by the same model in different files

2007-04-11 Thread Matt
use imports so that we can at least point to the generic model and then the specialised parameterised ones. But that won't work right now because the repository can't handle 1.1 models. cheers Matt On 4/12/07, James Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Addendum: The model in the repository

Re: [cellml-discussion] model variants(?): e.g. where multiple cell types are described by the same model in different files

2007-04-11 Thread Matt
On 4/12/07, James Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt wrote: This scratches a couple of important pending issues: 1) I feel the term 'variant' is odd (even though I originally suggested it). It was intended to mean that the model labelled as a variant is a variation of the one

Re: [cellml-discussion] CellML Validation, Curation and Model Composition

2007-04-18 Thread Matt
encapsulated variables. - methods to automatically compose simple reuse such as hooking up a different set of parameter values to a generic model. I guess I am pointing towards the 'practical application' of reuse here. cheers Matt Each of the above have very specific meanings within

Re: [cellml-discussion] CellML Validation, Curation and Model Composition

2007-04-18 Thread Matt
encapsulated variables. - methods to automatically compose simple reuse such as hooking up a different set of parameter values to a generic model. I guess I am pointing towards the 'practical application' of reuse here. cheers Matt Each of the above have very specific meanings within the software

Re: [cellml-discussion] Dimensional consistency and units conversions (was [Fwd: Re: ten Tusscher model])

2007-04-20 Thread Matt
with this discussion - that only ensures value consistency in the assigning of values to inputs and outputs of components and has nothing to do with ensuring units consistency inside the math. cheers Matt ___ cellml-discussion mailing list cellml-discussion

Re: [cellml-discussion] Dimensional consistency andunitsconversions (was [Fwd: Re: ten Tusscher model])

2007-04-23 Thread Matt
So one way out to avoid having to hope that software does the right thing is to make it compulsory that there is units consistency for each dimension across all variables (defined in variable elements) in a CellML component so that the only units conversions that need to take place are at the

Re: [cellml-discussion] removal of reaction components from models

2007-05-16 Thread Matt
description elements for each of them. If you send me a component that has been decomposed from a reaction element using Andrew's script, then I'll add in the rdf metadata in the way I was thinking and post it back here. cheers Matt On 5/17/07, James Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All

Re: [cellml-discussion] PMR categories

2007-06-05 Thread Matt
Some of those are subsets of others. You might want to generalise a bit more and then fit some of the useful specifics into that. I would be interested to see what you come up with. cheers Matt On 6/6/07, James Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, Tommy is currently working on a sorting

Re: [cellml-discussion] PMR categories

2007-06-05 Thread Matt
On 6/6/07, David Nickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would I be correct in assuming that these terms will be key words added to the model metadata and that the division into categories on the main repository page will be assembled from queries on each of these predefined key words? I would

Re: [cellml-discussion] PMR categories

2007-06-05 Thread Matt
to what should be added to the model, and as a broad category filter for the main repository listing. Users would still be able to add or search by other keywords (from the advance search interface) if they wish. Tommy. Matt wrote: On 6/6/07, David Nickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [cellml-discussion] PMR categories

2007-06-07 Thread Matt
this is the best input for trying to organise an ontology of keywords (including synonyms etc that come up). cheers Matt On 6/7/07, Peter Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, The intention of this discussion was to decide on a list of items for a drop-down list of predefined terms that would

Re: [cellml-discussion] PMR categories

2007-06-07 Thread Matt
, not the other way around. On 6/8/07, James Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Hunter wrote: It may be that the additional key words should adhere to terms from an ontology as Matt suggests and should use the predictive completion facility that Andre suggests. Will we use the Physiome

Re: [cellml-discussion] Concerning the CellML Model Repository

2007-06-21 Thread Matt
discussed a few weeks ago that if this environment is going to provide the security layer, then there needs to be a relationship between this and the subversion repository at quite a detailed level. cheers Matt On 6/21/07, Tommy Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have written down some of my

Re: [cellml-discussion] Concerning the CellML Model Repository

2007-06-21 Thread Matt
] wrote: Matt wrote: Hi Tommy, I found the document seemed to be too far ahead of itself. I also didn't find any of the pros and cons very compelling because they don't address specific problems and those problems are not described. 1) What are you actually trying to achieve? It would

Re: [cellml-discussion] Concerning the CellML Model Repository

2007-06-22 Thread Matt
On 6/22/07, Tommy Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt wrote: Hi Tommy, Can you continue to update/fill out your document as well as begin associated proposals with information contained in the replies people are submitting. The goal of this process is a scoping document with associated

Re: [cellml-discussion] [team-cellml] @cellml.org addresses

2007-06-25 Thread Matt
This seems like it's going in circles. I'm not really sure why anyone would want to contact us personally with something they didn't want to send to the list. Thinking about this more we should probably try: 1) cellml-discussion@cellml.org 2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - for specific enquiries that you

Re: [cellml-discussion] [team-cellml] @cellml.org addresses

2007-06-25 Thread Matt
On 6/25/07, David Nickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt wrote: On 6/25/07, David Nickerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt wrote: This seems like it's going in circles. I'm not really sure why anyone would want to contact us personally with something they didn't want to send to the list

Re: [cellml-discussion] Concerning the CellML Model Repository

2007-06-26 Thread Matt
This is my view of where things should be heading: The main impetus for this thread is moving the cellml.org site forward. In this sense I would like to see a description of what it currently does and what features have been informally slated. Then I'd like to see a document that re-writes these

Re: [cellml-discussion] curation of BioModels Database

2007-07-19 Thread Matt
Hi Nicolas, Users can currently submit models in CellML and SBML (VCML is coming). All the models are then converted to SBML, which is our internal format. Can you point me to the transforms/code/alogorithm for this? cheers Matt ___ cellml

Re: [cellml-discussion] CellML 1.1.1 specification

2007-07-19 Thread Matt
modelling is a specification of minimum required annotation of mathematical models using the 'core' language. Poul's turn. On 7/20/07, James Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Nickerson wrote: Matt wrote: It seems there is some misunderstanding as to whether we are discussing a proposal

Re: [cellml-discussion] Include_in_CellML_1.2 requested: [Tracker Item 153] Allow multiple connections between the same pair of components

2007-08-30 Thread Matt
Semantically I think this is fine and theoretically does not change the meaning of connections. It's important to highlight that software developers will need to: 1) relax the validation constraint for the existing rule (i.e. only one connection between any two components) 2) understand that

Re: [cellml-discussion] Representing the next version of the CellML Specification

2007-11-07 Thread Matt
On 8/11/2007, at 10:27 AM, Randall Britten wrote: Hi all Another option to add to the mix: using a Wiki. In this case, I would specifically suggest MediaWiki (a la Wikipedia). Pros: -Widely used, lots of user familiarity. -Easy collaboration: edits done via web interface. -Built in

Re: [cellml-discussion] Representing the next version of the CellMLSpecification

2007-11-07 Thread Matt
More generally, I think XML source formats should be avoided if possible. Just wondering if you can explain your reasoning for this? reading plain text in a text editor is more pleasant reading diffs of plain text is more pleasant ___

Re: [cellml-discussion] Call for community input: decision about theaddition of a CellML API side RDF parsing service

2008-05-01 Thread Matt
specific types of metadata; the most obvious implication of that is you would also need to write an RDF Schema library also. So the public API considered here may be very small - consume or produce triples. cheers Matt On 1/05/2008, at 9:49 PM, David Nickerson wrote: Hi Justin, As I mentioned

[cellml-discussion] CellML Versioning Strategy

2007-09-18 Thread Matt Halstead
and its interpretation we only really have 1.2 and 1.1 to deal with. cheers Matt On 9/19/07, Andrew Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, At the break-away session on the versioning strategy for CellML (which followed the Auckland CellML meeting today) we discussed the future of how we would

Re: [cellml-discussion] CellML Versioning Strategy

2007-09-18 Thread Matt Halstead
On 9/19/07, Andrew Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Halstead wrote: Andrew was opposed to the idea of changing all the namespaces, and suggested changing the namespace of a particular element in only some circumstances: I agree very strongly with this. It would make writing out

[cellml-discussion] HFM domains

2007-10-25 Thread Matt Halstead
deathmatch that exists there at the moment. cheers Matt ___ cellml-discussion mailing list cellml-discussion@cellml.org http://www.cellml.org/mailman/listinfo/cellml-discussion