associated to one person, and
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and on the website etc...
I can definitely fill out atleast 5 different laptop configs that work
with centos-5.
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the rest of
the stuff ( which is about 80% of the wiki anyway ) stays with a more
open acl model. Even this sort of a system will have a dozens
implementation routes.
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. But to be honest, I was hoping for a smaller hammer.
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). The darn config file
lives in /etc/sysconfig on RH/CentOS rather than /etc/default as
mentioned in all the guides I found!
quick question here - isnt it actually better to just use postgrey over
a named socket rather than over a network socket ?
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Just to make sure YOU dont get any time off, I have added your name to the
LaptopGroup, so edit away!
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on less than that, you need to get pagedown twice before you get
to the main wiki content.
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Ned Slider wrote:
Could we add the following image:
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/postgrey?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=postgrey-en.png
Thanks Alain - nice image and explains the concept well.
Any objections to adding it from anyone?
Please go ahead and add it. It looks clear enough to
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
hi guys,
Just wondering if anyone know the possibility of getting Moin to inherit
http auth ?
Was just looking at a few things that we might be able to do - and using
inherit from http auth might make life a bit easier for us, and users
there, and then on the forums and general centos searches on
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John wrote:
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 00:35 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
John wrote:
There will be no system-config-netboot in CentOS5. However, there were
plans to get cobbler into the centos-extras's repo so that people can
start using that instead.
Karan, do you know of a date in question
stable ) is unchanged. Most of
the new work has been on requirements for large install base ( 250 machines )
and the sort of things they want / need.
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for contributors to add exim /
sendmail details into their respective sections.
Just me thinking out loud.
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Karanbir Singh wrote:
John wrote:
Matt has offered to help us setup and then maintain the cobbler
packages ( along with the couple of deps that it needs ). So expect
some action on that front in the next few days. It will need to still
go via the whole testing - stable route, but I will do my
John wrote:
Todays feedback for cobbler. On a fresh OS install all updates were done
first. Don yum install cobbler from testing and I get a makefile
problem. Here's the error...
Transaction Check Error:
file /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile from install of
python-devel-2.4.3-19.el5
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
On the other hand google is rather fast indexing well known and fast
changing pages, so job offers probably will show up in google pretty
soonish.
But yes, I'd be all in favour for a CentOS-jobs list - which has to be
linked to from some prominent places. Too bad that
complete FAQ
repository.
Sounds like a good idea. Perhaps an expansion of the GettingHelp wiki
page is called for - and overdue. So a general 'ask a sensible question,
get a sensible reply' document would be very cool to have.
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the bar
for creating that account a little bit ( by making sure the email
address specified is unique, non spammy and deliverable ). So anyone
could get an account instantly.
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/ moaners.
If people want to get the name of who wrote what, all edits are
attributed to sources, much like any other wiki is like wikipedia etc
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Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
vserver is quite popular, especially among debian admins and even among
hosting companies, so I am very much in favor of publishing this article.
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R P Herrold wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008, Filipe Brandenburger wrote:
As discussed on the centos-users list, I would like to create some
pages on the CentOS Wiki with instructions on how to set up your
environment to build RPMs and how to rebuild RPMs.
ummm ... it exists several places ..
it.
We can start another thread on that issue, depending on what / how Ralph
feels about this and where he thinks we are in terms of manpower
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Akemi Yagi wrote:
It was unfortunate that the CentOS 4.7 release announcement did not
refer to the Release Notes on the wiki:
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS4.7
I propose to put this link in the Download page (
http://wiki.centos.org/Download ) instead of, or in addition to,
) server / hosting resources, feel
free to ask for them.
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Dag Wieers wrote:
Whats the aim of creating duplicate content and thereby creating more
legacy ?
The aim would be that more people could actually improve the content,
instead of having it sit there, look ugly and not helping with donations
at all.
If there is such a mass of humanity
Dag Wieers wrote:
How would John Doe be able to help with the website ? They can readily
help with the wiki today.
No they cant, there is a barrier to entry for the wiki as well ( one
that we are working to remove, agreed). Also, if you look, there is a
much lower barrier to entry for the
Dag Wieers wrote:
I'd like to see what analytics were used in reaching that decision.
I never visit the website, and I doubt many people return to the
website
if they know about the wiki.
ok, so no analytics were used.
Don't give me that shit. This is dishonest. There is little to no
Marcus Moeller wrote:
Good Evening
it was till about 5 min back :D
I fully agree. In my the old-style website is obsolete and needs to be
re-worked. Either in wiki style (which I would prefer) or in
Puntal/XOOP or whatever. For me it's really unclear who (but Karanbir)
is responsible for the
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
I would like to request a mailinglist for the ArtworkSig, where we
could discuss Artwork related stuff. This would be much better than
'flooding' the -docs.
I think we should do that (especially as Artwork discussions are now shared
between docs and devel ...).
Fine
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
I would like to request a mailinglist for the ArtworkSig, where we
could discuss Artwork related stuff. This would be much better than
'flooding' the -docs.
I think we should do that (especially as Artwork discussions are now
http://wiki.centos.org/WebsiteVer2/langSubsites
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in various
places. eg. what should goto bugs.centos.org and where to followup on that.
Is this something you might be interested in ? I am cc'ing this to the
centos-docs list where wiki related content gets discussed.
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Marcus Moeller wrote:
Good Evening (Dag and Karan),
I have noticed the slight changes on the Download Page which is now
linking to the RHEL Betas and want to take the discussion to the ML
instead of the Wiki.
I would personally prefer to link to the RHEL Betas from a (not yet
created)
hi,
Marcus Moeller wrote:
I don't think that pushing RH's beta is such a bad idea as it will
help improving CentOS. But afaik there won't be any 'open' RHEL betas
in the near future.
If its not open, its not welcome in CentOS lands ( /opinion ) If people
want it promoted via CentOS channels,
Dag Wieers wrote:
That's what this page was for, really:
http://wiki.centos.org/Contribute
Would this sort of a testing effort be better handled under the ageis of
the QA Effort rather than the Contribute page ? Most people who use
CentOS and want to contribute dont have RHN access or
Dag Wieers wrote:
I did no have anything to add. I do understand your point and I agree
with it partly. I normally do not ack on every email that I agree with.
Ok, it was just quite surprising that you went ahead and posted that
content anyway. To me, it was the start of a conversation and
out what the changes are. I guess the only way to do that
is to take a large number of commits, and diff the changes between them.
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http
could host much of the content that's currently on
www.centos.org.
Actually no. the wiki is incapable of hosting more than 15% or so of the
content in www.centos.org - but if you think that more can be moved
over, I'd like to hear how you worked that out :D
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Replying to myself, since this last line was perhaps not very clear...
Karanbir Singh wrote:
(3) Do nothing. Maintaining the web site is not important.
I'm sure no one would agree (3) is a solution. But if we do not come
up with viable solutions and start actively working on it, we would
end
I just noticed that the home page links on wiki.centos.org dont actually
match the navigation on the top/bottom, is that by design ? it just
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Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
I just noticed that the home page links on wiki.centos.org dont actually
match the navigation on the top/bottom, is that by design ? it just
looks confusing
It never really did, see http://wiki.centos.org/FrontPageBackup.
The navigation
No one has really stepped forward to push the website ver2 project
forward. So, if it is ok with everyone, I'd like to take that task on.
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HI Marcus,
Marcus Moeller wrote:
No one has really stepped forward to push the website ver2 project forward.
So, if it is ok with everyone, I'd like to take that task on.
php-BB is already installed on the Test VM. I have tried to contact
Tim recently but I did not get an reply. I am
Ned Slider wrote:
http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/HardwareList/Webcams
I dont see the point of 'high end', 'midrange' and 'entry level'
sections. If there is any reason for it to be there, some info on howto
decide what section each webcam should go into should also be included
on
Karanbir Singh wrote:
No one has really stepped forward to push the website ver2 project
forward. So, if it is ok with everyone, I'd like to take that task on.
Over the next few days I hope to propose a new Website plan ( which also
takes into context the wiki plans ).
One of the core things
Max Hetrick wrote:
This page could be for used for adding desktop magic programs, tips,
tricks, and visualizations.
Just so everyone is one the same level here, could you please
define: Visualizations
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Max Hetrick wrote:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Can the article not be made more Arch agnostic ?
Sure, why not if that's something the EditGroup decides on. Why couldn't
we just put x86 and x86_64 is the titles?
no, thats a really bad idea - if someone is looking for info on a
specific subject
Dag Wieers wrote:
I would like to request to disable the behaviour where MoinMoin
automatically create a link for a mixed case word like NetworkManager.
what is the ratio of Camel case words that need to be a link V/s Camel
case that dont need to be a link ?
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time depending on how much time
people have really. So this might be a good time to also consider moving
to a newer moin codebase ( there are pkgs and an install to test with
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JohnS wrote:
One other hinderance is tha MoinMoin uses a Flat File Data Base instead of a
RDMS. Which when the site gets really bigger you will
begin to notice the filesystem load greatly.
as opposed to having a db that thrashes itself ? I fail to see what your
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JohnS wrote:
On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 21:16 +, Karanbir Singh wrote:
JohnS: there is no such thing as www.wiki.centos.org - so I am not sure
what you are talking about.
There's not??? Could have fooled me then! Maybe check out ya WWW and
HTTP responses. It's not my problem the server
.centos.org on both Y! and MSN.
well, centos.org and from generic search engine spammers hosting centos
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down the
order - the first port of call on the Docs page should be the manuals
and guides already published on the website and included in the distro.
If noone has any objections to this, I'd like to make the change later today
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Karanbir Singh wrote:
If noone has any objections to this, I'd like to make the change later today
A couple of work issues came up late in the evening, and I wont be able
to do this today. However, will try and get a proposal of what I have in
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there. We
could then promote that Getting Help page as an entry point with the
Docs page being more docs focused.
Although, one might argue that perhaps the Wiki homepage should / could
be that Getting Help page.
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bulmoji-cen...@yahoo.com wrote:
I've made an account on the artwork group.
My account name is YoungHoonPark.
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hi,
Could we have something like this for people who dont have edit rights :
- people can make an 'edit' - but the edit is handled either as a patch
emailed to the page maintainer / edit group / editorial group / this
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Ralph Angenendt wrote:
I still would like to open up the wiki even more - especially as what we all
already have talked about would not require writing macros for Moin, but would
require editors to at least say yes to the license.
Sounds good - I guess the original plan is still worth sticking
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
I still have a small problem with the comment plugin I have found quite some
time ago - you can only have one comment box per page. Second problem is
that it is open to everyone (well, you need a login, but no Edit Access), so
we need many people having an eye on
Notes for 5.3 - there is so much
potential to harvest in massive amounts of knowledge from the users, it
would be so nice if they could directly post feedback.
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JohnS wrote:
Or did you mean your repo? BTW article seems to be nice be I would just
mirror base extras updates and addons and not the dvds
[r...@koala ~]# yum search reposync
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
* extras: ftp.plusline.de
* base:
Karanbir Singh wrote:
Also, works well for include /
exclude segments so you can easily ( and in a more yum friendly manner )
manage the package set.
forgot to mention, that it also uses yum's transport - so it works
through proxy / firewall / tunnel / vpns etc.
The *massive* disadvantage
Marcus Moeller wrote:
Please be patient. Karan is going to prepare the xoops_users tables,
so we can continue testing. The migration script (at least placed on
the TestVM) should not be accessible to the public.
I've got this done at home over the weekend - its amazing how much work
one can
I spend some time to create a more 'classic' CentOS theme.
Can we now not just ship that in an artwork update as a second theme for
people to use directly from their machines ?
- KB
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Flash and Java plugin instructions for 64-bit Firefox.
http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/PluginsFor64BitFirefox
Comments are solicited.
humm no openjdk plugin!
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the
content itself. Which would then mean that every and any page should be
editable with the least possible effort by anyone. Asking for a login
should be enough in most cases.
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only.
Akemi
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install ) and we might not
want to have content of that nature on the wiki. That is where, imho,
the EditGroup would fit in.
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Marcus Moeller wrote:
In gerneral I take a look at the original author first, ask him to
accept my contribution or to allow me to edit and if he/she is
unavailable I am going to contact the one who last edited the page.
Works in most cases.
That sounds like a reasonable workflow, do we then
, as well)
Sounds good to me - this bit specially, I'm working on getting cobbler
and a complete system management stack into the main centos repos, so
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PJ Welsh wrote:
mdadm can resync, but so can the /proc with:
I must be missing something. What makes mdraid fail when a new kernel is
installed ?
echo check /sys/block/md#/md/sync_action for CentOS 5.x where # is
the number. In fact, if you don't do this on a regular basis, you *ARE*
Phil Schaffner wrote:
I see that has been added to the Guidelines.
Ralph was kind enough to do that. I think we need more content in the
guidelines to make things more in-line with each other ( lack of any
other word - consistent ).
I put such a notice in my latest draft effort. Is there a
? But I am sure most people will get what I
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Karanbir Singh wrote:
Not sure how much work is involved with this, but if we could achieve a
state where in the absence of a translated page, the wiki drops back to
using the english page, retaining url's into translated urlspace[1]
then anything over a few pages should be enough to list
'left' the /zh/
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are proposing magic instead then ? or did you not
understand what the issue is
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JohnS wrote:
How about the panel code in:
http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/ThisPageInOtherLanguages
This allows translated pages to show up automatically on the bottom
right of the panel. See their sample site, which could be switched
between [fr] and [en]:
Alan Bartlett wrote:
Ralph,
Will you please check posts #17, 18 19 of this forum thread --
http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=19968start=0#forumpost76277
When you have a moment, I'm sure you will reply to it. :-)
iirc, requesting access on this list was
Timothy Lee wrote:
What about it ? Does it address the issue on hand ? or does it propose a
different way of doing things completely, thereby eliminating the issue ?
Yes, the code on that web page could be a solution to the issue on
hand. According to its description, the code
Timothy Lee wrote:
That should not be a major issue, we have a couple of VM's that can be
thrown together for this sort of a thing. If you want to go ahead and
send me your ssh key, I can get the vm setup and get you access on there.
OK, attached please find my SSH key.
Just on the
Phil Schaffner wrote:
Apropos http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/InstallWebminRepo
Suggested changes (mostly nit-picky :-) ...
Just brief look at the page, can do with some grammar checks I think. Also,
1) Have we
Phil Schaffner wrote:
The best way to do that is probably to get the release version of the
page linked in and announce it on the forum.
Sounds good.
[Aside: Should there be some kind of release announcement system/list
for Wiki articles and other documentation?]
A 'whats new' section in
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
Check http://wiki.centos.org/RalphAngenendt/recent
Looks good to me, I wonder if its possible to somehow only list pages
which have some criteria. So as to not list pages that are considered
'under construction' or temp pages that people might create in their
.
Interestingly, I completely missed the point that the codeblock only
shows newly Created pages. Something inside my head auto assumed it was
the latest changed / updated / created pages...
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On 05/31/2009 08:13 PM, Dag Wieers wrote:
To facilitate this, we need a standard to refer to these mugshots and for
this I'd like to propose the following convention for everyone who wants
his mugshot to be used:
DagWieers/DagWieers96.png
My pic is a bit small, but its there now. Will
On 06/19/2009 11:54 AM, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Installation_Guide-en-US/ch02s04.html
Okay, but that only uses the diskboot.img and then installs the rest
over the network - that is where the wiki article differs, as it is
using the isos, so no network
Hi Phil,
On 06/19/2009 01:53 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote:
True, and would be glad to note that, but having it all on the USB key
is what caught my attention when I saw the original post.
You can still install completely from the USB key - you just put the
diskboot.img on one partition, make it
On 06/23/2009 02:34 AM, Garry.Dale wrote:
Just read a post that Dag has resigned from the CentOS project... Is
that the end of the CentOS Pulse newsletter, too?
I am sure Dag wont mind if someone was to step up and 'adopt' that
project. Would you be interested ?
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I know this is on the radar, so does something like this help :
https://portal.huttu.net/gwiki/InstallationInstructions/1.8/Migration ?
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the correct info on the centos.org domain.
Not sure what you are saying here, the wiki and the docs are hosted
within the centos domains
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On 07/03/2009 02:01 PM, Digvijay Patankar wrote:
Hi all,
I am Digvijay.
Username : dbpatankar
you need a user FirstnameLastname - so DigvijayPatankar maybe ?
I don't really get what do you want to mean by 'proposed subject of wiki
contributions'. My aim is to prepare simple documentations,
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