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That's extremely relevant, and I'd definitely like to simulate several UDP
50pps sessions with different DSCP values and see if there is any
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I also considered using WebRTC or VoIP libraries, does anyone know what
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fw3 */
But you might be right that in places with a lot more clients then this
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might have a chance to be deployed internet-wide.
01 seems as good as any.
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Generally people in the IETF are acting as individuals, not
representatives of a company. If you put in "INTERNET!!!" as affiliation
I'm pretty sure nobody would care.
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I am not.
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from the 90ties (I doubt it's been touched much).
If you need full Internet BGP tables then it needs to have 1GB of RAM.
I have close to 20 year experience with these kinds of boxes, so I can
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id causing congestion. So your previous email about allowing some
congestion to take place on LE would be good as then protocols that try to
avoid causing congestion would have a way to do so.
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% to the
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can try to
replicate it with that hw...
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don't use the wifi, I
have Ubiquiti for that). However it does CAKE on my 250/100 Internet
connection with CPU cycles to spare.
Otherwise I hear a lot about the TP-LINK Archer C7 as some kind of
"reference stable OpenWrt platform".
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2018, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
Mikael Abrahamsson writes:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018, Dave Taht wrote:
I expect dave reed to comment, so I'll withhold mine for now
https://kurti.sh/pubs/dLTE-Johnson-HotNets-2018.pdf
When I read the first page I was hopeful, then unfortunately
tter. In that aspect this proposal is kind
of neat in that I could make my residential radios join a larger network
(similar to eduroam).
So yes, I think this proposal has some merit.
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ractable without password from the device, compared to them being lost
because the device was damanged otherwise broken.
So we need to come up with a security regime that makes sense for the most
amount of people, and then try to still cater to the ones who want to do
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something like this up first though. ATM I do not see much appetite for
such regulatory actions in the US.
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at least US or EU size market to really succeed with this.
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Dave Taht wrote:
Right, a device that speaks homenet should not request PD.
But I need that to get from my ISP.
Right, it should request PD from the ISP (homenet external port) but it
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reaching them from the outside though. We need DNS or other mechanism to
keep track of addresses as they change over time.
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this kind
of information within the protocol, and it does leak.
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, David Lang wrote:
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
Most host stacks do not handle 240/4 correctly. Getting this working
outside of a very closed and controlled network is not feasible.
You would need to validate all devices to support this 240/4 block
is not feasible.
You would need to validate all devices to support this 240/4 block that
most IP stacks today will not use.
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On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Dave Taht wrote:
I *think*, but am not sure, this box could do a lot more prior to
this, but I never really tried. I'm off mostly debugging a babel
problem at the moment,
I know for a fact that this box (WRT1200AC) did
the source address selection of hosts. I had two different
upstreams with PDs and one had much longer lifetime compared to the
other. So hosts chose the one with the highest lifetime, which wasn't what
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. I tested it a lot back then. Right now, I am
using it as a 250/100 megabit/s machine, and it seems to spend a lot CPU
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18.06.1 compared to whatever was
in in 17.01.x, I'd say factor 3-4 worse.
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either your packets aren't making it to
the Comcast upstream router, or it doesn't do any of the basics.
I thought this would be a PD problem or something, but this is more basic
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announced out on LAN. I even configured bidirectional SQM
with CAKE on each uplink (250/50 and 250/100 respectively) and it seems to
do the right thing.
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My only experience with these devices is the Edgerouter 3/5/X, and they
have very low performance if you disable offloads (which you need to do to
enable AQM) and run everything in CPU, around 100 megabit/s of
uni-directional traffic.
Do they have other platforms where this would actually matter?
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is a major driver for the lack of up-to-date kernels
in HGWs and other IoT devices).
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is thrown over the fence.
To me it's amazing that Linux kernel has gotten as far as it has, and
actually has a so-so working community around it, with lots of companies
funding work going in there. Things could be a lot worse.
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to continously develop the device.
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conclusion basically is: 10GE and up is hard. There are
real physical limitations here. I would be very happy if we could prove
Shannon wrong. :P
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon%E2%80%93Hartley_theorem
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how the connectors etc
are going to look like to make this end user friendly.
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ney compared to the 29USD
1GBASE-T thunderbolt2 adapter that Apple sells.
But still, with these kinds of products, there might be hope!
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al minutes, but can't
come up with an explanation to this behaviour, at least not from the
typical kind of DDOS that's going around. If there was some kind of ddos
mitigration equipment put into the mix, that might explain what you were
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o handle
events that increase traffic temporarily, plus handle loss of capacity in
case of a link fault). The upgrade might be to add another link, or a
higher tier speed interface, bringing down the utilization to typically
half or quarter of what you had before.
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sustained amount of time, in normal operation, and make sure you perform
upgrades well before the growth has resulted in network being full.
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he problem if I
don't have enough throughput available to me that I need for my
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not the biggest problem. My in-house cabling can do 10GE,
but I guess I'm an outlier.
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pay 2x my current MRC to get 1000/100. However, if I had to downgrade
to 30 megabit/s I would most certinaly notice it, and in my market that
would just be a 20-30% saving which definitely isn't worth it.
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hing.
We've created devices that are impossible to verify without destroying
them (sanding down ICs and looking at billions of gates), and in order to
verify them, you need equipment and skills that are not available to most
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OS won't do more than around 100
megabit/s if the traffic isn't hardware accelerated. But I am not familiar
with the ER-X, so if they're better CPU forwarders then that's
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difference.
(I have 250/50 on my DOCSIS3.0 connection, but perhaps it's common
knowledge what speeds Comcast customers typically has, that I don't know?)
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guess the "buffer manager" is very much of interest to anti-bufferbloat...
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much traffic is going where.
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just kills both CUBIC
flows. Same with PIE.
So it seems my intuition was wrong, at least for these scenarios. It
wasn't CUBIC that would kill BBR, it's the other way around. Great to have
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be completely off, but I think it'd be interesting to know.
I'll take a look at your flent data, thanks for posting them!
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the ratio between BBR
and CUBIC after 20 seconds of letting things settle down to new
equilibrium?
Consider the FIFO buffer practically infinite, or at least able to buffer
5 seconds of packets without drop. It's an interface with a single,
stupid, huge FIFO buffer.
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when the traffic occurs and what the traffic
levels are, and from remembering what was done at the time.
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le? Lots of startups and established vendors are
pitching these solutions to the ISPs, most of them with their own
proprietary extensions and non-interworking protocols. What's the open and
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y previous generation of datacenter switches
that had miniscule buffers and ISPs tried to use them and when there were
microbursts there was uncontrolled packet loss.
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This is most definitely not why they're doing it. Buffer memory for them
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On Mon, 11 Jan 2016, Dave Taht wrote:
I am happy to see the omnia crack nearly 750k of funding thus far.
Seems they ended up with 859k now with the campaign ended, but it seems
it's still orderable, and without wifi it seems to be the same price
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to be able to put non-sanctioned cards
into the laptop.
Vendors tend to blame for instance FCC for the "sanctioned card"-lock,
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and got back the speed...
I believe it's this one I was mucking around with:
https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/19420
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went in 5 hours, perhaps
that's what you're referring to?
They were at 98% of the 100kUSD goal at 0630 CET, and now at 8:45 CET,
they're at 101%. I believe they launched around noon yesterday, CET.
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2015, Dave Taht wrote:
http://solid-run.com/marvell-armada-family/clearfog/clearfog-specifications/
Armada 385 is still my favorite.
Turris Omnia looks promising:
http://www.netnod.se/sites/default/files/turris-omnia-netnod-MS-20151014.pdf
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On Tue, 8 Sep 2015, Dave Taht wrote:
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swm...@swm.pp.se> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Sep 2015, Dave Taht wrote:
wifi, and the carriers... which bugs me. 5.x ghz is the people's
spectrum, that we should be free to use any way we want... and t
isn't really open either, and the unlicensed spectrum still
requires that devices are approved to be operated there, right, so if FCC
and the likes do their job properly then these technologies should
work together at least on the RF level?
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Isaac Konikoff wrote:
Yep, planning to do just that...but already the marketing has got me
shaking my head... AC1900 for Wi-Fi speeds up to 1900Mbps
everybody does it
http://www.cnet.com/topics/networking/best-networking-devices/802-11ac/
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just be whatever IPQ8064 offers as standard
(since the packet forwarding hardware is controlled by proprietary
firmware and proprietary kernel modifications to interact with this
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Qualcomm onboard and
working closely with the project.
If I understand correctly, we have both the packet accelerator (closed
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will never know they're hogging
resources and will never try to improve the situation.
So if I understood you correctly above, my opinion is in agreement with
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to be a USD200 device once it's done.
What is the SIM card used for? To put a mini-PCIE WWAN card on there?
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Internet use, and there should be no strict priority but just a slight
preference for scheduling packets with the BE+ code point, exactly to make
DDOS less of an impact.
What is your opinion on this concept?
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Joe Touch wrote:
Some questions:
On 7/6/2015 11:16 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
...
You can flash back the factory firmware without serial, you just use
sysupgrade with the Linksys factory image.
How does that differ from mtd, e.g., as indicated here (which doesn't
compute suffix of object files: cannot compile
See `config.log' for more details.
mikael - which toolchain are you using?
Hm, what do you mean by toolchain? I am compiling on an Ubuntu 14.04
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, but instead has a much better CPU for forwarding packets.
So basically if you buy a v1 you'll get a third or so in forwarding
performance over the v2 with OpenWrt. With the Linksys firmware I could
imagine the v1 is faster than the v2. The v1 has a fan, v2 does not.
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but with more everything, apart
from RAM that (for some reason) the WRT1200AC has 512MB RAM but according
to http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/linksys/wrt1900ac the WRT1900ACv2 only has
256MB RAM.
I don't have any information on the performance of the radio in the
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congestion egress on the WAN SOC port is to
add traffic locally from the SoC (iperf3 for instance), or adding traffic
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://swm.pp.se/aqm/rrul_150630-cake-l4.0-1.tar.
As far as I can tell sirq load is higher rather than lower so it doesn't
seem like kernel 4.0 has any significant performance benefits, rather the
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what's going on:
tc -d qdisc
tc -s qdisc
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Dave Taht wrote:
attached is a patch for that, put it in your
feeds/cero/kmod_sched_cake/patches
directory, rebuild (make package/kmod-sched-cake/{clean,compile,install})
I compiled openwrt trunk with linux kernel v4.0
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se writes:
How can I tell which one of these actually is included? Tried moving the feed
statement so ceropackages was first but that doesn't seem to have helped, I
still get OpenWrt regular sqm-scripts
shaped.
Then I removed the ll adaptation and changed to simplest.qos and ran
another test with cake:
http://swm.pp.se/aqm/rrul_150629-cake-10.tar
Now I'm going to try out if my new version with your cake patch will boot
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On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Dave Taht wrote:
attached is a patch for that, put it in your feeds/cero/kmod_sched_cake/patches
directory, rebuild (make package/kmod-sched-cake/{clean,compile,install})
Test results: http://swm.pp.se/aqm/rrul_150629-cake-11.tar
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add dev eth0 parent : protocol all prio 10 u32
match u32 0 0 flowid 1:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb4eth0
+ sqm_logger ingress shaping activated
+ logger -t SQM -s ingress shaping activated
SQM: ingress shaping activated
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that handles this case, ie
if the string is empty? Because when the string is empty and it gets
stuck, luci just waits and waits and waits. I mean, this specific case can
be fixed, but for the future it would be more robust if this error case
can't happen at all.
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, then changed the
above, which does not hang. Seems like the most elegant way to solve this!
Thanks!
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things like upgrades as well.
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either if someone has any tips on how to fix this, or can just give me
how to configure qdiscs manually, I will be able to do cake testing on the
WRT1200AC.
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