On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM, george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov
george.e...@ssa.gov wrote:
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Adobe-Delivers-Beta-of-ColdFusion-9-and-ColdFusion-Builder-IDE-361260/?kc=EWKNLNAV07152009STR5
George
Eweek arrived in mailbox today...
Ja know...
If you have a current Eclipse install that you like which contains
CFE, and want to try CFB in the same setting, theoretically, you
could:
1) Copy your current Eclipse install folder to something like eclipse-cfb
2) Either copy your workspace folder or create a new one
3) Fire up the
down various plug-ins, etc, sometimes.
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:48 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
So, choosing the install type of Standard ColdFusion Builder
Installation
ends up with Eclipse
Sounds like a good way to go...
Any other comments/warnings/gotcha's on this procedure?
-Original Message-
From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 5:19 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Ja know...
If you have a current Eclipse
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:
Sounds like a good way to go...
Any other comments/warnings/gotcha's on this procedure?
Different question... Anyone know how to edit keyboard shortcuts? I can pull
up keyassist but can't remember how to edit
still frustrating
trying to track down various plug-ins, etc, sometimes.
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:48 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
So, choosing the install type of Standard ColdFusion Builder
, 2009 11:48 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
So, choosing the install type of Standard ColdFusion Builder
Installation
ends up with Eclipse installed? Either approach I take I end up with the
same thing? Eclipse first, then CFB...or CFB first and end
various plug-ins, etc, sometimes.
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:48 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
So, choosing the install type of Standard ColdFusion Builder
Installation
ends up
It was an issue with the Yoxos install, which has it's own custom update
engine, that didn't like me installing the CFB plugin. Gave me an error
every time I tried to pull up Eclipse, and immediately shut down. I've
done a straight vanilla Gallileo install from the Eclipse site now, and
have
I don't know if there's a way to add shortcuts specific to the CF
Builder (under ColdFusion -- Editor Profiles -- Editor -- Keys in
the preferences, I don't see a way to add. Only edit.). You might be
able to try it in the Eclipse-specific shortcuts (General -- Keys)
[that's where I had to go to
Tell me I'm just having a nightmare...
Does CFB not maintain folded code state when opening a document?
-Original Message-
From: Scott Brady [mailto:dsbr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:20 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
I don't know if there's a way
Ahhh! Can only tags that are specified in Preferences be folded?
Can I not set folding markers anywhere I want??
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:44 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF9 and Bolt
?
-Original Message-
From: Scott Brady [mailto:dsbr...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:20 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
I don't know if there's a way to add shortcuts specific to the CF
Builder (under ColdFusion -- Editor Profiles -- Editor -- Keys
Take it easy-- it's a beta. Log a bug and call it a day. The new Flex
bug tracker is pretty kick butt.
http://cfbugs.adobe.com/bugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html
~Brad
Original Message
Subject: RE: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
From: Rick Faircloth r
...@bradwood.com]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 4:09 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Take it easy-- it's a beta. Log a bug and call it a day. The new Flex
bug tracker is pretty kick butt.
http://cfbugs.adobe.com/bugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html
~Brad
Original Message
)
If this feature doesn't make it into the RTM of CFB, I'm going to have
to pay someone $300 to build in this feature into CFE for me.
-Original Message-
From: Ben Forta [mailto:b...@forta.com]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 6:25 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: RE: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
As he said
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Rick Fairclothr...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:
Sounds like a good way to go...
Any other comments/warnings/gotcha's on this procedure?
Not really. It's what I've done for a bunch of other plugins/testing
cfe, etc., so *theoretically* that's about it.
Java is
When you're writing your applications, do you not try to anticipate
certain things users will try that you know may cause problems and
then provide them appropriate messages? I think Adobe predicted that
a lot of users would try to have CFEclipse and CF Builder on the same
Eclipse installation
1. Check out my blog post on ColdFusion Builder memory settings. Flash
Builder defaults to use much more memory than CF Builder, which is why you
might want to install FB first. We will be updating the default settings for
the next release of ColdFusion Builder, but in the meantime:
ready to pounce on CFEclipse when its
installation was detected.
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:11 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
It could be that there are unavoidable, inherent conflicts
or can't play together on the same
playground.
How is my assessment inaccurate?
-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:adrocknapho...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:38 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Prepared statement? News to me. Can you point me
, July 16, 2009 10:37 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
1. Check out my blog post on ColdFusion Builder memory settings. Flash
Builder defaults to use much more memory than CF Builder, which is why you
might want to install FB first. We will be updating the default settings
and Bolt in eWEEK
Prepared statement? News to me. Can you point me to it?
-Adam Lehman
ColdFusion Project Manager
Adobe Systems Inc
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:
Yeah, well, it certainly made me a little suspicious when
: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Prepared statement? News to me. Can you point me to it?
-Adam Lehman
ColdFusion Project Manager
Adobe Systems Inc
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:
Yeah, well, it certainly made me a little suspicious
the best route extensibility would be Eclipse followed by the
plug-ins, rather
than CFB with plug-ins...
-Original Message-
From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:01 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Adam or anyone else have any luck
together.
i.echoose sides...we won't or can't play together on the same
playground.
How is my assessment inaccurate?
-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:adrocknapho...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:38 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Dave Wattsdwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
It could be that there are unavoidable, inherent conflicts between the
two plug-ins...or it could be that the 500-lb Adobe gorilla is purposefully
creating unnecessary incompatibilities in order to muscle out the
Yeah, I tried adding the ganymede update site and it errored on that too.
I'll probably start over and also try CF Builder as a plugin.
Greg Luce
Luce Consulting Services, Inc.
www.luceconsulting.net
(863) 273-0289
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@visi.com wrote:
Have
That is weird since I just installed some additional Mylin
components. Mylin Task List, Mylin Bridge: Eclipse IDE, and Mylin
Bridge Team Support with no issues on Win XP Pro. I also installed
Mylin and Mylin Extras on my Mac Book Pro with no issues. Both
computers are using the public
: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:53 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
yes, read my blog - MOST people are not reading the CF Builder
documentation and thus missing one very important step when adding
third-party plugins to the stand alone version.
http://www.trunkful.com/index.cfm/2009/7
existing Eclipse setup with CFE...
-Original Message-
From: Wil Genovese [mailto:jugg...@visi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:53 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
yes, read my blog - MOST people are not reading the CF Builder
documentation and thus missing one
: Wil Genovese [mailto:jugg...@visi.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:53 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
yes, read my blog - MOST people are not reading the CF Builder
documentation and thus missing one very important step when adding
third-party plugins to the stand alone
Under Getting Installed you advise installing CFB as a plug-in
if one already has an Eclipse installation. But, what will happen
with my CFE plug-in? They won't work in the same installation. That's
what Adobe's warning said when I tried two days ago to install it in my
existing Eclipse
. Install CFB as stand-alone.
Is installation of CFB as an Eclipse plug-in preferable to stand-alone
for some reason?
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:50 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Under Getting Installed
3. Run CFE and CFB in separate Eclipse installs.
A good possibility.
How about:
4. Install CFB as stand-alone.
That would give you a separate Eclipse install.
Is installation of CFB as an Eclipse plug-in preferable to stand-alone
for some reason?
No. But if you already have Eclipse
of CFB as an Eclipse plug-in preferable to stand-alone
for some reason?
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:50 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Under Getting Installed you advise installing CFB as a plug
Two Eclipse installs with CFB as a plug-in?
-Original Message-
From: Wil Genovese [mailto:jugg...@visi.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:20 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
I'm running two installs. One CF Builder and one CFEclipse.
Wil Genovese
One man
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
3. Run CFE and CFB in separate Eclipse installs.
A good possibility.
How about:
4. Install CFB as stand-alone.
That would give you a separate Eclipse install.
Is installation of CFB as an Eclipse plug-in preferable to stand-alone
for some
So, choosing the install type of Standard ColdFusion Builder Installation
ends up with Eclipse installed? Either approach I take I end up with the
same thing? Eclipse first, then CFB...or CFB first and end up Eclipse
anyway.
Yes. You can either install CFB into your existing Eclipse
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Adobe-Delivers-Beta-of-ColdFusion-9-and-ColdFusion-Builder-IDE-361260/?kc=EWKNLNAV07152009STR5
George
~|
Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let
The real question is, will it make it to print!
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM, george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov
george.e...@ssa.gov wrote:
Wow Darryl really mailed it on that one. Let's just take a bunch of quotes
and string them together. Good job witting the article for him Adam.
Adam
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM, george.e...@ssa.gov george.e...@ssa.gov
george.e...@ssa.gov wrote:
thanks for the link, George...
Speaking of Bolt...when I tried to install it into my existing Eclipse
setup,
I get a message that I couldn't install it (or that it may not work
properly)
with CFEclipse installed.
Do I need to setup another installation of Eclipse in order to test Bolt
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:
thanks for the link, George...
Speaking of Bolt...when I tried to install it into my existing Eclipse
setup,
I get a message that I couldn't install it (or that it may not work
properly)
with CFEclipse
So, as far as you know, the stand-alone works exactly like the Eclipse
plugin?
-Original Message-
From: Casey Dougall [mailto:ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:34 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Rick
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:
So, as far as you know, the stand-alone works exactly like the Eclipse
plugin?
Not exactly sure. Seems to be, but I was never a big eclipse user. Going to
give this a shot though...
Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather than as
a standalone, has allowed me greater flexibility when I wanted to flesh
out my environment by including subclipse, etc.
Steve Cutter Blades
Adobe Certified Professional
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
is that the case?
-Original Message-
From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather than as
a standalone, has allowed me
It's really annoying that they can't both be installed together.
What is that the case?
Probably because they do the same thing, with the same sort of files,
etc. You can install as many copies of Eclipse as you need, if you
want to use CFEclipse for some things and ColdFusion Builder for
that they can't both be installed together.
What is that the case?
-Original Message-
From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Personal experience has been that installing
You can install plugins into the standalone builder. The standalone
builder is, essentially, just its own Eclipse installation, which
means you can install other plugins (such as subclipse) into it.
One somewhat annoying thing is that both cfeclipse and CF Builder use
a .project file, so you
I wasn't able to install Mylyn into the standalone. Keeps erroring saying
'Install' has encountered a problem. An error occurred during
provisioning. This is the 32bit standalone on Vista, HP Quadcore, 4G RAM.
Anyone have luck installing Mylyn? That and Subclipse are always my first
installs to
I don't use Mylyn, but any problem with Subclipse?
-Original Message-
From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:17 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
I wasn't able to install Mylyn into the standalone. Keeps erroring saying
'Install
From what I have read about Flex Builder is that it is a very bare bones
version of Eclipse, so I would imagine that the same is true for CF builder.
That may give rise to dependency issues with such a minimal install. I
suspect that may be an issue. Or maybe not. I would build your Eclipse
: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
I wasn't able to install Mylyn into the standalone. Keeps erroring saying
'Install' has encountered a problem. An error occurred during
provisioning. This is the 32bit standalone on Vista, HP Quadcore, 4G RAM.
Anyone have luck installing Mylyn? That and Subclipse
, July 15, 2009 2:17 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
I wasn't able to install Mylyn into the standalone. Keeps erroring
saying
'Install' has encountered a problem. An error occurred during
provisioning. This is the 32bit standalone on Vista, HP Quadcore, 4G RAM.
Anyone
, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather
than as
a standalone, has allowed me greater flexibility when I wanted to
flesh
out my environment by including subclipse, etc.
Steve Cutter Blades
you multi-task you activate the task and the 18 files you need open
open up
That does sound good...
-Original Message-
From: Greg Luce [mailto:luce...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 2:46 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
But you should REALLY try Mylyn
: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather
than as
a standalone, has allowed me greater flexibility when I wanted to
flesh
out my environment by including subclipse, etc
together.
What is that the case?
-Original Message-
From: Cutter (ColdFusion) [mailto:cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:56 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
Personal experience has been that installing as a plugin, rather
than
This shouldn't really be too surprising, as ColdFusion Builder
is intended to be used instead of CFEclipse.
That statement carries a lot of implications. Where did you hear this and,
how and where can I confirm this statement?
Kind Regards,
Emmit
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dave Watts
This shouldn't really be too surprising, as ColdFusion Builder
is intended to be used instead of CFEclipse.
That statement carries a lot of implications. Where did you hear this and,
how and where can I confirm this statement?
I didn't hear it from anywhere. It's a simple observation. You
...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:35 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
This shouldn't really be too surprising, as ColdFusion Builder
is intended to be used instead of CFEclipse.
That statement carries a lot of implications. Where did you hear this and,
how and where can
It could be that there are unavoidable, inherent conflicts between the
two plug-ins...or it could be that the 500-lb Adobe gorilla is purposefully
creating unnecessary incompatibilities in order to muscle out the
competition...
Given the likelihood of conflict between two Eclipse plugins
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
Given the likelihood of conflict between two Eclipse plugins that do
the same thing, I don't think we need to ascribe malice to Adobe.
Yeah well, there color pallet sucks in standalone! All over the place.
Bright Blue
: Re: CF9 and Bolt in eWEEK
It could be that there are unavoidable, inherent conflicts between the
two plug-ins...or it could be that the 500-lb Adobe gorilla is
purposefully
creating unnecessary incompatibilities in order to muscle out the
competition...
Given the likelihood of conflict
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Hello All,
I have applied to Adobe for the Bolt beta but not heard a peep. Has anybody
had any news on when we can get to play with the new shiney toy?
Jose Diaz
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applied to Adobe for the Bolt beta but not heard a peep. Has anybody
had any news on when we can get to play with the new shiney toy?
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Hi, Jose...
I applied for beta participation, too, but was apparently turned down.
I also expected news from Adobe sooner than this.
Disappointed so far...
Rick
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Jose Diaz bleached...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All,
I have applied to Adobe for the Bolt beta
Adobe sooner than this.
Disappointed so far...
Rick
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Jose Diaz bleached...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All,
I have applied to Adobe for the Bolt beta but not heard a peep. Has
anybody
had any news on when we can get to play with the new shiney toy?
Jose
Several of my coworkers were overheard talking about being on the Bolt beta
months ago. I'm pretty sure the beta's been out since like Jan or Feb.
andy
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:16 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject
I don't think Bolt has gone into Beta yet. Doesn't Adobe usually do a
big announcement when a product's Beta testing starts? (They certainly
did with Flex 3!) It's my understanding that right now they're just
allowing people to put their name on the list for when it finally does
go
I applied a long time ago and haven't heard anything as of yet either.
Eric
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Jose Diaz bleached...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All,
I have applied to Adobe for the Bolt beta but not heard a peep. Has anybody
had any news on when we can get to play with the new
Adam Lehman posted somewhere, about a month ago, a brief update. Since Bolt
is not start on the same dev cycle as the next CF version it is not as fully
developed yet. They are working hard to get it up to speed.
I suspect they are really hoping to release it a the same time the release
I'm probably going to get in trouble for this.. but I can tell you
with absolute certainty, the public beta has not been released yet. Very few
people outside of Adobe have gotten their hands on Bolt yet. Be patient,
when it's ready they'll open it up to the public beta.
The only reason I'm
Subject: Re: BOLT!
I'm probably going to get in trouble for this.. but I can tell you with
absolute certainty, the public beta has not been released yet. Very few
people outside of Adobe have gotten their hands on Bolt yet. Be patient,
when it's ready they'll open it up to the public beta.
The only
Shouldn't that be suit ... What's a duck suite anyway? Some kind of
wetland litigation no doubt.
-mk
-Original Message-
From: Mark Kruger [mailto:mkru...@cfwebtools.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:34 AM
To: 'cf-talk@houseoffusion.com'
Subject: RE: BOLT!
We have one copy running
:)
-Mk
-Original Message-
From: Alan Rother [mailto:alan.rot...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:28 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: BOLT!
I'm probably going to get in trouble for this.. but I can tell you with
absolute certainty, the public beta has not been released yet. Very
I'd have to do something terrible to you with Jell-O and a duck suite
There are ppl that would pay good money for something like that. US
Congressmen for instance.
But in all seriousness. I asked Sharad Kumar Kiri, practically begged
(twice), if I could get in on some hot steamy Bolt prerelease
That, and the fact that the tools for other platforms/languages like Java,
.Net
and Flex for that matter, run circles around the current CF IDE offerings.
Well, I don't think that's going to change entirely. CF is different
from Java, .NET and Flex, in that it's compiled when it's first run
I think this is a fairly closed minded view on things. No offense but if you
look at other loosely typed dynamic languages like groovy the IDE support
for it (IDEA) is very impressive.Or something slightly more close to
ColdFusion like Ruby also has some very impressive support. That being said,
Not to mention that Visual Studio continues to be a fine IDE and seems
to be coping with C# as it gains a great deal more dynamic features
like lambda expressions, duck typing, etc. Still not sure how great
Bolt will be out of the gate but there are some decent IDEs out there
that they can take
Actually, the Adobe NDA explicitly states that you cannot even admit the
existence of the beta software, among numerous other things. I suggest you
reread the NDA, because you just violated it.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Eric Roberts
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
That is
So if you know what the NDA says, then that must mean you've read the
NDA and thus are part of an Abode prerelease program. Does this mean
you just violated your NDA by saying you read the NDA? I'm just
wondering. Not that I have any knowledge of the NDA or if it even
exists.
Wil
monster market share by allowing people to even talk about the very
existence of the next version of CF or it's IDE. Especially when they
publicly, and proudly, announced the fact that they had twice the ppl enter
into beta testing of a dead language? It is not like Bolt will have
anything over any
Where...I even double checked it and didn't see anything the last time
we had this discussion/comic dialogue...
Eric
Brian Kotek wrote:
Actually, the Adobe NDA explicitly states that you cannot even admit the
existence of the beta software, among numerous other things. I suggest you
reread
Anyone seen the beta of Bolt, yet?
Rick
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You may never know. If Bolt really does exist, and is in beta, the
participants are probably bound by an NDA.
The first rule of Adobe Prerelease is that you don't talk about Adobe
Prerelease.
mike
-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com]
Sent: Friday
Nope...but wasn't the rumor, if one is in the beta program, one is not
allowed to admit it?
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:
Anyone seen the beta of Bolt, yet?
Rick
~|
Adobe
Information about Bolt can be found here:
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Bolt
There is a link to apply for the beta program when it is available. Other
than that, the NDA on Adobe alpha/beta programs restrict speaking about the
program.
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Rick Faircloth
r
Nope I signed up bleams ago. The more I use Eclipse, Aptana and NetBeans
the more I anticipate Bolt. From what I have read (and speculate based on
using the above tools) I see bolt as an answer to my personal IDE wish list.
I also see the potential for the ORM auto-configuration and code
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:49 PM, John M Bliss wrote:
Nope...but wasn't the rumor, if one is in the beta program, one is not
allowed to admit it?
That rumor exists indeed. The actual text of Adobe NDA's for other
products is more like it forbids you to disclose any information about
the beta
Nope...I don;t think it is out yet.
Eric
Rick Faircloth wrote:
Anyone seen the beta of Bolt, yet?
Rick
~|
Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to
date
Get the Free Trial
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That is incorrect...I am on the CF9 alpha...there is nothing to stop one
from admitting they are on the alpha or the beta.
Eric
Dawson, Michael wrote:
You may never know. If Bolt really does exist, and is in beta, the
participants are probably bound by an NDA.
The first rule of Adobe
: Adobe Bolt anyone?
That is incorrect...I am on the CF9 alpha...there is nothing to stop one
from admitting they are on the alpha or the beta.
Eric
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- Original Message -
From: Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: Adobe Bolt anyone?
That is incorrect...I am on the CF9 alpha...there is nothing to stop one
from admitting
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote:
Poison dart flies in the window to Eric's house striking him in the nec
Don't laugh... I violated the NDA *once*... I told my GF during pillow talk
that I was an alpha tester for ** (by accident, I swear) and the
No, Andy's Eclipse is always jacked up. I'm convinced, though, that it's
a PEBKAC issue. Or he needs to stop looking at porn on his laptop;)
Steve Cutter Blades
Adobe Certified Professional
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
I was thinking he needs to get a computer that wasn't
Actually, he just got a brand new, high-end HP laptop 3 or 4 weeks ago.
Cutter's right, it's all the porn.
Larry Lyons wrote:
No, Andy's Eclipse is always jacked up. I'm convinced, though, that it's
a PEBKAC issue. Or he needs to stop looking at porn on his laptop;)
Steve Cutter Blades
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