Re: CFML Shared Hosting Made Affordable

2007-05-20 Thread Aaron Roberson
@James I certainly hope that they read the license for BD Server and entered into a Hosting Partner Agreement. It is deployable in a hosting enviroment, as stated on the NA website: The use of BlueDragon Server within a hosted environment requires a Hosting Partner Agreement with New Atlanta

Re: Adult content website hosting?

2007-05-12 Thread Phillip M. Vector
or materials:* Any account found to have child-pornography or obscene speech will be immediately terminated. We require that all Resellers enforce a stringent line of monitoring on this. Hosting A to Z is required by laws to notify law enforcement agencies (Australian Federal Police) when we become aware

Re: Adult content website hosting?

2007-05-12 Thread Will Tomlinson
Can someone suggest a web hosting company that will host for $25 or less that allows adult content? ask dave the disruptor. This is his specialty! :) Will ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful

RE: Adult content website hosting?

2007-05-12 Thread Scott Stewart
. Vector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Adult content website hosting? Can someone suggest a web hosting company that will host for $25 or less that allows adult content

RE: Adult content website hosting?

2007-05-12 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
HA! -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Adult content website hosting? Can someone suggest a web hosting company that will host for $25 or less that allows adult content? ask dave the disruptor

Adult content website hosting?

2007-05-11 Thread Phillip M. Vector
Can someone suggest a web hosting company that will host for $25 or less that allows adult content? ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products

Re: Adult content website hosting?

2007-05-11 Thread Andrew Scott
hostingatoz.com On 5/12/07, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone suggest a web hosting company that will host for $25 or less that allows adult content? ~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7

Re: Adult content website hosting?

2007-05-11 Thread Phillip M. Vector
. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone suggest a web hosting company that will host for $25 or less that allows adult content? ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 Flex 2 Free

RE: Adult content website hosting?

2007-05-11 Thread Eric Roberts
Let me check with my host and I will get back to you... Eric -Original Message- From: Phillip M. Vector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 12:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Adult content website hosting? Nope. 12.1 of their general terms of service.. Note

Re: Adult content website hosting?

2007-05-11 Thread Andrew Scott
sites that may infer sexual content, or link to adult content elsewhere. Anyone else? Andrew Scott wrote: hostingatoz.com On 5/12/07, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone suggest a web hosting company that will host for $25 or less that allows adult content

Re: Adult content website hosting?

2007-05-11 Thread Phillip M. Vector
Thanks. :) Eric Roberts wrote: Let me check with my host and I will get back to you... Eric -Original Message- From: Phillip M. Vector [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 12:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Adult content website hosting? Nope. 12.1

Re: Adult content website hosting?

2007-05-11 Thread Andrew Scott
-pornography or obscene speech will be immediately terminated. We require that all Resellers enforce a stringent line of monitoring on this. Hosting A to Z is required by laws to notify law enforcement agencies (Australian Federal Police) when we become aware of the presence of child pornography being

Re: Adult content website hosting?

2007-05-11 Thread Phillip M. Vector
sites that may infer sexual content, or link to adult content elsewhere. Anyone else? Andrew Scott wrote: hostingatoz.com On 5/12/07, Phillip M. Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone suggest a web hosting company that will host for $25 or less that allows adult content

CFmail spool / out going mail server hosting

2007-04-09 Thread Mark Breneman
? We do have a few clients that we have set up IMS to handle the out going mail. It seems to be a very good solution. But, we a looking to get out of the mail hosting world if we can. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across

RE: CFmail spool / out going mail server hosting

2007-04-09 Thread Russ
, and it can deliver email without an external mail server. Russ -Original Message- From: Mark Breneman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 12:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFmail spool / out going mail server hosting I am watching my CFMX 7.02 mail spool folder

Introduction, Cheap Hosting

2007-03-25 Thread Peter Donahue
Good morning everyone, Let me first begin by introducing myself before asking for hosting recommendations based on my criteria. My name is Peter Donahue. My wife Mary and I live in San Antonio Texas where I do Web development for a non-profit organization and for several clients. My wife

Re: Introduction, Cheap Hosting

2007-03-25 Thread Will Tomlinson
Peter, Try www.hostmysite.com - very cf-oriented And www.crystaltech.com - kinda cf-oriented. A lot of the members of this list use one of the two. There are also a few folks on this list that offer hosting themselves. I'm sure they'll chime in. HTH

ColdFusion Resellers - Dedicated hosting

2007-03-19 Thread Jerry Guido
I am looking for a place to host my sites. I have about 10 or so sites that need to be placed in a reliable managed hosting environment. I have maintained a couple of dedicated servers over the years and frankly I am just sick of fending off hackers, fixing things when they break, and server

RE: ColdFusion Resellers - Dedicated hosting

2007-03-19 Thread Andy Matthews
To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion Resellers - Dedicated hosting I am looking for a place to host my sites. I have about 10 or so sites that need to be placed in a reliable managed hosting environment. I have maintained a couple of dedicated servers over the years and frankly I am just sick

Re: ColdFusion Resellers - Dedicated hosting

2007-03-19 Thread Mik Muller
Viux has good plans and uses Plesk. viux.com Mik At 04:38 PM 3/19/2007, you wrote: I am looking for a place to host my sites. I have about 10 or so sites that need to be placed in a reliable managed hosting environment. I have maintained a couple of dedicated servers over the years

Re: ColdFusion Resellers - Dedicated hosting

2007-03-19 Thread Christopher Jordan
from Viux. Chris Mik Muller wrote: Viux has good plans and uses Plesk. viux.com Mik At 04:38 PM 3/19/2007, you wrote: I am looking for a place to host my sites. I have about 10 or so sites that need to be placed in a reliable managed hosting environment. I have maintained

RE: ColdFusion Resellers - Dedicated hosting

2007-03-19 Thread Eric Roberts
Check out sunshinetechsolutions.com...tell him Eric sent you...I have benn hosting with them since November and have almost 100% uptime Eric -Original Message- From: Jerry Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion Resellers

5 domains, one set of templates and one CF hosting account.

2007-03-12 Thread Che Vilnonis
I'm looking for some real world advice on how to properly configure my ColdFusion application for one hosting account that will host five different web sites that share the same core templates. Only the images and the databased information will change from site to site. What is the best way

Re: 5 domains, one set of templates and one CF hosting account.

2007-03-12 Thread Tom King
out of it's own folder, then use ISAPI to rewrite the URLS: so www.domain.com/site1/ - www.site1.com This way, you could have a siteroot application.cfc, and then application.cfc's which extend the site root cfc. I've got about 25 sites running out of one hosting account using that technique

Re: CFML Hosting Survey

2007-03-07 Thread Peter Boughton
Hmmm, well thanks to all the people that have replied so far. (Both of you) Just wanted to bump this incase there are any more people potentially interested. Thanks. Hi all, I am considering setting up some low-cost UK-based CFML hosting, and would like to know how much demand

CFML Hosting Survey

2007-03-01 Thread Peter Boughton
Hi all, I am considering setting up some low-cost UK-based CFML hosting, and would like to know how much demand for this there might be. So I've setup a quick survey for anyone who might be interested to let me know what sort of features they would want and how much they'd be willing to pay

Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-21 Thread James Holmes
: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. + 1 again for Viviotech. I've been very happy with my VPS bluedragon account. I'm not doing much on there right now but they are very helpfull. The control panel is great and when you want you can login through ssh and surf around

Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-20 Thread Casey Dougall
is the main thing your are paying for. Che -Original Message- From: Mark Picker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 4:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. Hi Andy, Sorry about

RE: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-20 Thread Che Vilnonis
Hmmm... Thanks for all the responses. It seems I have some research to do... Che -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. + 1 again

RE: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-20 Thread Rick Faircloth
Are all the VPS accounts at Viviotech on Linux? Are any on Windows? Rick -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. + 1 again for Viviotech. I've

CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Che Vilnonis
I recently purchased 25 related domains and I wish to create 25 simple 3-5 page CF web sites. Can anyone recommend a host that can do this with ONE ColdFusion account that doesn't cost a fortune? Aside from a SQL database, I don't need anything fancy since the sites will basically be

Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Mike Kear
Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 2/20/07, Che Vilnonis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently purchased 25 related domains and I wish to create 25 simple 3-5 page CF web sites. Can anyone recommend a host that can do

RE: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Andy Matthews
I just registered with Gearhost. They allow 8 domains in the account level I'm at (level 3). http://www.gearhost.com/hosting/shared/ The highest account offers 20 domains. -Original Message- From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:13 AM To: CF

RE: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Che Vilnonis
Where are your servers located? -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. I can do that .. i dont charge extra per domain.; my cost factors

RE: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Che Vilnonis
Andy, there's gotta be a CF host out there that only charges on bandwidth, not the number of domains. Anyone else know of any? ~Ché -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Hosting Question

Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Adrian
If you dont need to use createobject() / any other shared hosting banned stuff, then I would guess that godaddy are very hard to beat on pricing. https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/hosting/shared.asp (click on Compare Plans-Linux) Seems like you can have unlimited websites / 1000 GB transfer a month

RE: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Che Vilnonis
Hmmm. I'll have to check them out. Thanks, Adrian. -Original Message- From: Adrian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. If you dont need to use createobject() / any other shared

Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Adrian
Che, I should have mentioned: 1) I've not tried the godaddy hosting myself, so I dont know what the catch is (there always is one, isnt there) 2) Make sure you read the TC's http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/legal_agreements/show_doc.asp?pageid=HOSTING%5FSA Especially the bit about website

RE: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Che Vilnonis
I think I am safe. The theme is cars parts. -Original Message- From: Adrian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. Che, I should have mentioned: 1) I've not tried the godaddy

RE: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Ian Skinner
I just recently started using Godaddy for my personal website. You can have unlimited domains and sub-domains, restricted only by your disk allocation and bandwidth. You also get 1000 emails with a shared hosting account. I found their administration tools to be fairly straight forward

RE: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 9:13 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. I recently purchased 25 related domains and I wish to create 25 simple 3-5 page CF web sites. Can

Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Picker
Have you looked at hostingatoz.com? I don't know how many domain alias's your allowed but I recently asked for 4 additional ones and they didn't bat an eyelid, didn't cost any extra. Found their support to be really quick (a few minutes sometimes). I did have problems with their email

RE: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Andy Matthews
Is Che asking for aliases though? It sounds more like he's got 25 individual domains. -Original Message- From: Mark Picker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 2:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. Have you looked

Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Picker
Subject: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. Have you looked at hostingatoz.com? I don't know how many domain alias's your allowed but I recently asked for 4 additional ones and they didn't bat an eyelid, didn't cost any extra. Found their support to be really quick (a few minutes

RE: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Che Vilnonis
- From: Mark Picker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 4:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. Hi Andy, Sorry about that, I think your right. I clearly didn't think about that point, I'm so use to just pointing other domains

Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Mark Picker
with. It seems kind of absurd that most CF web hosts won't offer unlimited domains since bandwidth is the main thing your are paying for. Che -Original Message- From: Mark Picker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 4:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25

RE: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Big Mad Kev
Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. Hi Che, I would still contact hostingatoz as I doubt the costs would be much (based on past experiences with them). They seem to be very flexible. Cheers Mark These are 25+ unique domains. I can find a PHP/Linux solution... but I would rather use CF

RE: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Mik Muller
To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. I recently purchased 25 related domains and I wish to create 25 simple 3-5 page CF web sites. Can anyone recommend a host that can do this with ONE ColdFusion account that doesn't cost a fortune? Aside from a SQL database

Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Jordan Michaels
won't offer unlimited domains since bandwidth is the main thing your are paying for. Che -Original Message- From: Mark Picker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 4:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. Hi Andy

Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread James Holmes
since bandwidth is the main thing your are paying for. Che -Original Message- From: Mark Picker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 4:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. Hi Andy, Sorry about

Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account.

2007-02-19 Thread Yves Arsenault
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 4:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Hosting Question... 25+ domains with one account. Hi Andy, Sorry about that, I think your right. I clearly didn't think about that point, I'm so use to just pointing other

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-09 Thread Mark Drew
: For what it's worth, if Railo went open source.. now *THAT* would be interesting... The combination of a open source shared hosting optimized CF runtime is where I see some possibilities. Perhaps if one of the big hosting companies (HMS or GoDaddy seem like likely candidates), would put some

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-09 Thread Gert Franz
... The combination of a open source shared hosting optimized CF runtime is where I see some possibilities. Perhaps if one of the big hosting companies (HMS or GoDaddy seem like likely candidates), would put some resources into developing such a beast, it might have a chance. I'm not sure the community

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-08 Thread Andy Matthews
in Railo hosting? Indeed, and you always will as in all reality it will be Adobe who define the CFML language (albeit not official) and any competing engine will always be behind that set. Of course there are times when new systems provide additional functionality but any one expecting CFML

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-08 Thread Doug Brown
, February 08, 2007 7:21 AM Subject: RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? But I don't see any reason why competing engines can't further growth in the official engine. A perfect case is Macromedia and Adobe's competition in the WYSIWYG editor (Dreamweaver vs Go-Live) or even better in the image

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-08 Thread Gert Franz
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Indeed, and you always will as in all reality it will be Adobe who define the CFML language (albeit not official) and any competing engine will always be behind that set

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-08 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 08 Feb 2007, Andy Matthews wrote: Adobe and Macromedia ALWAYS leapfrogged each other in features until of course Adobe bought MM. There's no reason why Adobe can't implement features from other engines. cough cfthread cfinterface ... -- Tom Chiverton Helping to confidentially

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-08 Thread Tero Pikala
At least CFC instances can't be replicated by underlying J2EE platform since they can't implement serializable interface. there. (If you need session replication at least). Also, from what I've been told, session replication doesn't work reliably with CF, although I have not experienced

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Dale Fraser
less expensive you might have a case, but it's marginally less expensive with less features. Regards Dale Fraser -Original Message- From: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2007 6:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Hi all

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Gert Franz
2007 Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Hi Neil, i can easily post why this is: Railo, for a good reason which I will post down below does not support the following. 1: cfset a = structNew() 2: cfset a[sub.subkey] = John 3: cfset b = a.sub.subkey --- this throwhs an error

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Sent: Wed Feb 07 08:06:43 2007 Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Just a tiny hint is this... http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2006/11/27/Comparing-Component-spee d-on-different-CFML-engines Greetings / Grüsse Gert Franz Customer Care Railo Technologies GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Gert Franz
Hi Dale, here my comments to your concerns: 1. security Railo does not claim to be absolutely secure in terms of weaknesses or security holes. Nor do we claim to be more secure than other engines in this terms. But just give me your thoughts about these matters: How do you prevent users from

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Gert Franz
Yes Neil, you are absolutely right. That's what I wrote myself in the comments. Tests have to be done by independent companies and in addition they have to test a lot of stuff, not only on single issue. And I can not publish such a test as well since an independent company is objective. I

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Yes Neil, you are absolutely right. That's what I wrote myself in the comments. Tests have to be done by independent companies and in addition they have to test a lot of stuff, not only on single issue. And I can not publish such a test as well since

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Dale Fraser
Hey gert, All those items you list are only relevant to hosting providers, most users don't do this, a very small percentage. I use it in a corporate environment on our production servers for our use, so not only do I have any experience with those items, I have no interest. I was however

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Gert Franz
Well Dale, the question was about hosting :-) Railo will make it's way. I'm sure, but it will take time... Gert Dale Fraser schrieb: Hey gert, All those items you list are only relevant to hosting providers, most users don't do this, a very small percentage. I use it in a corporate

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Gert Franz
Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Gert Franz To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Feb 07 08:58:45 2007 Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Yes Neil, you are absolutely right. That's what I wrote myself in the comments. Tests have

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Gert Franz To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Feb 07 09:18:35 2007 Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? I hope somewhen you

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Jochem van Dieten
for file access. Perfect for shared hosting. I love it. I have even asked Macromedia to copy it. But is simply not relevant in my current work. I think that once Railo 1.1 is out I will put it in the buildfarm again so our applications run automatic regression tests against it. I like having

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Rick Root
On 2/7/07, Gert Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Neil, i can easily post why this is: Railo, for a good reason which I will post down below does not support the following. 1: cfset a = structNew() 2: cfset a[sub.subkey] = John 3: cfset b = a.sub.subkey --- this throwhs an error (For

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Rick Root
For what it's worth, if Railo went open source.. now *THAT* would be interesting... ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7 integration create powerful cross-platform RIAs

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Gert Franz
That indeed was and is true. But since changes could be easily be made, I don't agree to change the behaviour of Railo in order to support this syntax and loose performance in exchange. Gert Rick Root schrieb: On 2/7/07, Gert Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Neil, i can easily post

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Gert Franz
why? what's the difference between open source and free? Rick Root schrieb: For what it's worth, if Railo went open source.. now *THAT* would be interesting... ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 MX7

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Wright
Rick Root wrote: For what it's worth, if Railo went open source.. now *THAT* would be interesting... The combination of a open source shared hosting optimized CF runtime is where I see some possibilities. Perhaps if one of the big hosting companies (HMS or GoDaddy seem like likely

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread James Holmes
Not much when you have a decompiler on hand :-) Oops, did I say that out loud? On 2/7/07, Gert Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why? what's the difference between open source and free? Rick Root schrieb: For what it's worth, if Railo went open source.. now *THAT* would be interesting...

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Doug Brown
and that it takes longer for community acceptance. Doug B. - Original Message - From: Gert Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:15 AM Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? why? what's the difference between open source

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Doug Brown
lol ;) Doug B. - Original Message - From: James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Not much when you have a decompiler on hand :-) Oops, did I say that out loud

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Rey Bango
Hah! h4x0r! ;o) Rey... James Holmes wrote: Not much when you have a decompiler on hand :-) Oops, did I say that out loud? On 2/7/07, Gert Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why? what's the difference between open source and free? Rick Root schrieb: For what it's worth, if Railo went open

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Doug Brown said: A huge difference!! Number one is that you have the entire community helping to develop the project, Really? Look at that thread about the Smith project. How many people have said they would actually help? Jochem

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Wright
Doug Brown wrote: MySql offers an open source product and were able to grow their client base while at the same time having the people that downloaded their software also develop their software and reduce their costs. Free and closed source simply means that we have to wait for you to implemnt

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Doug Brown
@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Doug Brown said: A huge difference!! Number one is that you have the entire community helping to develop the project, Really? Look at that thread about the Smith project. How many people have

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Russ
- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Doug Brown said: A huge difference!! Number one is that you have the entire community helping to develop the project, Really? Look

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Turetsky, Seth
Most CF people don't have a CS background Where did you get this info from? -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? How many people on this list are actually

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Doug Brown
: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:58 AM Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Doug Brown wrote: MySql offers an open source product and were able to grow their client base while at the same time having the people that downloaded their software also develop their software and reduce

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Gert Franz
-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:15 AM Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? why? what's the difference between open source and free? Rick Root schrieb: For what it's worth, if Railo went open source.. now *THAT* would be interesting

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Russ
up a poll somewhere and test out this hypothesis? Russ -Original Message- From: Turetsky, Seth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Most CF people don't have a CS background Where did

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Doug Brown
- From: Gert Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:17 AM Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Don't get me wrong, I do not have anything against open source. BUT we are yet to small and I don't think that the community will dig

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Doug Brown
Just a side note, or question...What reasons do people think that asp/php has the stronghold on web development, and what can be done to make CF just as popular? A. Better performing code B. Cheaper development C. Cheaper hosting D. Other (Explain) Doug

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Gert Franz
price for their product. Doug B. - Original Message - From: Gert Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:17 AM Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Don't get me wrong, I do not have anything against open

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Doug Brown
still have a enterprise edition that you charge for albeit at a lower price. Doug B. - Original Message - From: Gert Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:32 AM Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? That's my

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Turetsky, Seth
, 2007 10:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Just in general working and talking with CF people and at conferences. It seems to me that because CF is so easy to learn, a lot of the people using it are coming from non CS backgrounds. Now it might be just people I'm

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Russ
I think ASP/PHP do have cheaper hosting, and the whole selling point is that it's free. The fact that it will take longer to develop an app is not immediately clear, and neither is that fact that ASP/PHP code is more complicated and therefore will have more bugs. ASP also probably performs

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Andy Matthews
, February 07, 2007 8:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? why? what's the difference between open source and free? Rick Root schrieb: For what it's worth, if Railo went open source.. now *THAT* would be interesting

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Eric Haskins
has any sort of session management, so it's not even a contender in the enterprise world. Can you elaborate on this?? I use session vars all the time in php. I have done apps for Verizon that are php. Eric On 2/7/07, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think ASP/PHP do have cheaper hosting

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Andy Matthews
a serious jump start. -Original Message- From: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Don't get me wrong, I do not have anything against open source. BUT we are yet to small and I don't think

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Andy Matthews
I think that cost is one of the biggest issues. Every other programmer I've spoken with about CF thinks that you have to BUY the server just to host a single CF site. It's like they don't even realize that there might be CF based hosting companies. I also think that while there's a decent amount

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Andy Matthews said: Open source means you're offering up the source code for anyone to modify. It also means that when someone modifies your source code, they have to give it back to the community (you) for others to use. No it doesn't. Even the most viral licenses for software only require

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
I also think that while there's a decent amount of KICKING CF projects, there needs to be WAY more, and they need to be way better publicized. Look at the stuff that 37 Signals is doing. They're totally piggybacking on the popularity of Rails and offering up this fantastic software that just

RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread Andy Matthews
Okay...thanks for correcting me Jochem. I didn't realize the difference. -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone interested in Railo hosting? Andy Matthews said: Open source means

Re: Anyone interested in Railo hosting?

2007-02-07 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
On 2/7/07, Eric Haskins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and neither is that fact that ASP/PHP code is more complicated and therefore will have more bugs. That's a fairly ridiculous assertion -- first of all that one specific language is more complicated than another and second that complexity = bugs.

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