Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread John B. White
gt; To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? > > > > > > We run an RV Classified site with about 40,000 visitors per month. The > > average age of Rver's is in their early 60's. Believe it or not, about > > 1.5% of o

RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread Jeffry Houser
> >Most of the time it's not up to the developer anyways. We go by what >the client wants on their site. > >If they say they want a flash intro, so be it. > >Anyways, I couldn't imagine a web without pictures and flash and dhtml, >it would be like a magazine with nothing but text inside. It so

RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread Robert Everland
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? You are opening a can of worms here I believe, but Netscape has no problem with Javascript. Especially since Netscape invented Javascript, I imag

Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread Jon Hall
t: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:10 AM Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? > I would like to chime in on this topic...I have several sites that I have to > maintain (I do government work) that I did not write. They were written using > layers and HEAVY

RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
I would like to chime in on this topic...I have several sites that I have to maintain (I do government work) that I did not write. They were written using layers and HEAVY on javascript. When Netscape 6 was loaded on many of the new machines, the sites stopped working. I visited many javascript

RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread Steve Oliver
tp://www.atnetsolutions.com -Original Message- From: Mike Alberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? I just had to get in on this one ... While there really isn't much debat

RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread Haggerty, Michael A.
ECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 7:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? I just had to get in on this one ... While there really isn't much debating that the browser war is over (which is as much Netscape's fault for releasin

RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread Matthew R. Small
Progress waits for nobody. - Matt Small -Original Message- From: jon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? We get the same thing from our WebTV users... also a small, but vocal pe

RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread jon
Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? The site I mentioned in my previous e-mail is also an RV site. About the same traffic. Average age of re

RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread Matt Robertson
Yes, I understand the argument is flawed, but the root idea is sound. You can't place barriers to usability without paying some sort of penalty. Mike Alberts post is right on with this, imho. --Matt-- From: list peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] hi, i dont like the argument used my some people

Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread Mike Alberts
e world of print and multimedia designers on their Macintosh computers decided that we could do all this fancy design and Flash and all this other wiz bang stuff doesn't mean that it's necessarily the right thing to do. My .02, and sorry for ranting Mike Alberts > Tue, 19 Feb 2002 22:

Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread Jim McAtee
result? Who cares. Everybody is happy. Life is good. Life is simple again. Jim - Original Message - From: "Rey Bango" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:22 PM Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser

Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread Jim McAtee
sday, February 19, 2002 10:40 PM Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? > Hi Howard. > > The CSS issue was one of the main reasons that I started this post. I was > working on a site and implemented some design elements using styles that > really enhanced the

Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-20 Thread list peters
hi, i dont like the argument used my some people that if netscape has 5% of the market, and your site doesnt work for them you will have a "5% drop in sales". That assumes that 100% of people that go to your site are buying - so you would be getting 95% sale rate which is pretty great! i hear th

RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-19 Thread Matt Robertson
Even if the percentage of users for all wacko browsers is just ... say .. 5%. Are you willing to take a 5% drop in sales for an unknown duration? Like others I not only still see NN3 users... I'm still seeing AOL 3 on a site where about 10% of users are on AO-Hell - the typical site demographic

Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-19 Thread Nick McClure
I am one of those hard core Netscape users. Really I use it because I don't trust the security of IE/Outlook. I still use Netscape and Eudora for that reason. The threat of the next big hole that MS has not yet released a patch for, and me going to some obscure website that somebody from cf-co

Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-19 Thread Rey Bango
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:17 AM Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? > The site I mentioned in my previous e-mail is also an RV site. About the > same traffic. Average age of registered users is 56. > > My biggest proble

RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-19 Thread howard
#x27;s won. H. -Original Message- From: Tom Nunamaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 8:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? We run an RV Classified site with about 40,000 visitors per month. The average age of

Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-19 Thread Jeffry Houser
Watch your logs.. ( Or the logs of the site you are developing for, rather ) . That is the biggest tell-tale sign as to what you should be developing for ( or not ). The server administrator of one site I developed, a long time ago, told me that on weekdays, 98% of the hits were from Nets

Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-19 Thread Rey Bango
EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:06 PM Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? > I'm not sure what the general consensus is, but in my opinion, I would > continue to code for Netscape, and also consider Opera too. If everyone > giv

Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-19 Thread Paul Giesenhagen
We have seen a dramtic increase in Netscape users over the last few months, (with over 2million uniques per month) ..our numbers have jumped from 3-4% to over 15% ... I would keep the coding going for Netscape! Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign http://www.quilldesign.com SiteDirector - Commerce Build

RE: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-19 Thread Tom Nunamaker
S 3.0 Tom Nunamaker -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration? Here's my .02 cents I'm leaning towards giving more consideration to t

Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-19 Thread Nick Texidor
I'm not sure what the general consensus is, but in my opinion, I would continue to code for Netscape, and also consider Opera too. If everyone gives up coding for the other browsers, then it's game over, MS will not only own your personal machines, but the internet too!The other option of co

Re: SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-19 Thread NathanielHorwitz
Here's my .02 cents I'm leaning towards giving more consideration to the Netscape 6.0 above but I'm not ready to declare Netscape 4.75 dead. I think there's still about 10 percent of the internet users that are using Netscape 4.75. Netscape 6.0 is coming along real nicely and I've seen so

SOT: Is the Netscape browser still a consideration?

2002-02-19 Thread Rey Bango
For the longest time, I've coded my sites to take into account Netscape users but with the ever-dwindling numbers of Navigator afficianados and IE's continued growth, I've been wondering if I should even bother worrying about whether my sites work with Netscape. Since this has been one of my best