RE: Search engine question

2005-04-04 Thread Ken Ferguson
-Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Search engine question I'm sure the domain names play into the rankings, but they can be used deceptively so easily, I don't know how much weight the actual domain name

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2005-04-01 Thread Rick Faircloth
: Search engine question Search engines try to keep their methodologies close to the vest, but I have read some past talk about how search engines weight the relevant words in the domain name itself. That makes sense simply because one needs to keep the domain name within the realm of relevancy. Ken

RE: Search engine question

2005-04-01 Thread Rick Faircloth
01, 2005 1:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Search engine question Hrm, what about wrapping chunks of Text inside divs that have visible = false? Has anyone applied that technique aswell (now you all have be curious again on SOE) On Apr 1, 2005 12:25 PM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

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2005-03-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
frequently... Rick -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Search engine question Do you like that nickname? haha Ok too start with you don't have any real content on the home page which is what is gunna really

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2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes
service is to keep an eye on them and keep them optimized with keywords and phrases that need to be repeated frequently... Rick -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Search engine question Do you

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2005-03-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
not spamming the visitor. I agree with all your other points... Rick -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Search engine question People linking to your site also helps your google rankings. Simply

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2005-03-31 Thread Ken Ferguson
that the bulk of your administration can be handled in one place... Also, some of my sites only sell a specific subset of our products. --Ferg -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: re: Search engine question

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2005-03-31 Thread dave
to be repeated frequently... Rick -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Search engine question Do you like that nickname? haha Ok too start with you don't have any real content on the home page which is what

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2005-03-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
, 2005 3:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Search engine question Sure 1. open up flash 2. make a new movie and size it 1x1 pixels 3. in the actionscript enter this mass of coding beauty //redirect to home page is client has proper version of flash getURL (main.cfm) 4. export at the lowest

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2005-03-31 Thread dave
I agree with whomever stated that it was good to have other domain name. My answer was directed towards will's site only, sorry I should have noted that. While having a few other domain that are PROPERLY formated for placement is a good thing just having other domain names with pointers to

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2005-03-31 Thread dave
Subject: RE: Search engine question 1. open up flash I mentioned earlier that I don't have Flash, so I was wondering if you could give me your little 1x1 movie already complete? I would need to start at step 5...embed :o) And since I don't, at this point, use Flash in any of my sites

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2005-03-31 Thread Will Tomlinson
Well I did it, but it isn't quite fast enough. The swf is only 53 byes. Sits for a second, but that's too long. I COULD place some text like: entering winston court sports.com h am I doing somethin wrong? Thanks, Will

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2005-03-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks, Dave...didn't mean to hi-jack the thread... Rick -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Search engine question oh sorry lol I'll send that to you. I'll remake it in an earlier version of flash so

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2005-03-31 Thread dave
, 2005 5:07 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Search engine question Thanks, Dave...didn't mean to hi-jack the thread... Rick -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 4:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Search engine question

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2005-03-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
...this could be a great boon for my SEO business... Rick -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Search engine question I'll try and fix wills then post the code with some better embedding and stuff

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2005-03-31 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I missed the little SWF trick that's being talked aboutbut I thought I saw something about redirects...which can kill your SEO...so I thought I'd double check and make sue this trick doesn't involve redirects on the home page of site?? Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce

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2005-03-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Search engine question I missed the little SWF trick that's being talked aboutbut I thought I saw something about redirects...which can kill your SEO...so I thought I'd double check and make sue this trick doesn't involve redirects on the home

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2005-03-31 Thread dave
what freedom they give you to be creative :) From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:32 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Search engine question I missed the little SWF trick that's being talked about

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2005-03-31 Thread dave
@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Search engine question I think what's happening here is (not knowing that much about how bots read Flash) that Dave is saying his .swf redirect method is not penalized by bots like redirects using other methods...right Dave? Rick -Original Message- From: Bryan

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2005-03-31 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Ah...well there are other easier ways of having bot content to indexjust supply custom content based on user_agentas long as that content is not different from what's IN the Flash (i.e. not spamming the bots with extra content etc.)...then you can defend your use of this

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2005-03-31 Thread dave
fairly well:) From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:47 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Search engine question Ah...well there are other easier ways of having bot content to indexjust supply

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2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes
or to have a pro do it, so this is what I do for them and it seems to work fairly well:) From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 5:47 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Search engine question Ah

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2005-03-31 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Not sure who that wa aimed at Scott...but if you were referring to my user agent suggestion: This concerns me the most, you can trick the bots until you have a total monopoly on keywords. Yet, if someone reports you to google (and it happens) for hijacking traffic (only have to look at your

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2005-03-31 Thread dave
. From: Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:12 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Search engine question This concerns me the most, you can trick the bots until you have a total monopoly on keywords. Yet, if someone

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2005-03-31 Thread dave
@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Search engine question Not sure who that wa aimed at Scott...but if you were referring to my user agent suggestion: This concerns me the most, you can trick the bots until you have a total monopoly on keywords. Yet, if someone reports you to google

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2005-03-31 Thread Bryan Stevenson
I think what you are saying is that if the user agent is a bot then you just serve them up a specific content page instead of the home page. Not a seperate page...just bot specific content that mirrors the real content (and yes..Will's site is another matter). and if it's a bot you don't

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2005-03-31 Thread dave
. From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:31 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Search engine question I think what you are saying is that if the user agent is a bot then you just serve them up a specific content page instead of the home page

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2005-03-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Search engine question This concerns me the most, you can trick the bots until you have a total monopoly on keywords. Yet, if someone reports you to google (and it happens) for hijacking traffic (only have to look at your competitors

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2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes
Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Search engine question This concerns me the most, you can trick the bots until you have a total monopoly on keywords. Yet, if someone reports you to google

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2005-03-31 Thread Bryan Stevenson
yep..but the index page is the jump off point...and the other internal pages must be relevant to the index page etcso it's a pretty important part of the puzzle ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax:

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2005-03-31 Thread dave
- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 6:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Search engine question This concerns me the most, you can trick the bots until you have a total monopoly on keywords. Yet, if someone reports you to google (and it happens

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2005-03-31 Thread Rick Faircloth
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Search engine question Correct me if i'm wrong and chances are it may be the case, but i think i remember reading that google doesn't base its ranking on index page alone. It weighs up the entire site and then asses its

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2005-03-31 Thread Scott Barnes
, 2005 8:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Search engine question Correct me if i'm wrong and chances are it may be the case, but i think i remember reading that google doesn't base its ranking on index page alone. It weighs up the entire site and then asses its ranking capabilities. If you were

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2005-03-31 Thread Nick Baker
for the human visitor, but great for the bot... Rick -Original Message- From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Search engine question Correct me if i'm wrong and chances are it may be the case, but i think i

Re: Search engine question

2005-03-31 Thread Nick Baker
Search engines try to keep their methodologies close to the vest, but I have read some past talk about how search engines weight the relevant words in the domain name itself. That makes sense simply because one needs to keep the domain name within the realm of relevancy. Ken mentioned early on

Search engine question

2005-03-30 Thread Will Tomlinson
Ok, don't pummel me for askin this one. I just know some of you will have the answer. On my volleyball apparel site, the client is asking about added domain names to help attract more people. If I were to use something volleyball-shorts.com as a domain name, would that add relevance to the

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2005-03-30 Thread dave
this yet but i threw it up 4 ya, http://www.jamwerx.com/HowGoogleWorks.swf From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:38 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Search engine question Ok, don't pummel me for askin

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2005-03-30 Thread Will Tomlinson
What's the url wilbergini? abracadabra! www.winstoncourtsports.com I haven't read this yet but i threw it up 4 ya, http://www.jamwerx. com/HowGoogleWorks.swf Preeesh! This looks like good info! Will ~| Logware

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2005-03-30 Thread dave
for content only. www.denveralumnaegpb.org has that. Basically it's a win win, without really cheating :) From: Will Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 11:25 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Search engine question

RE: CSS and Cloaking Search Engine question...

2004-03-31 Thread Dowdell, Jason G
Subject: OT: CSS and Cloaking Search Engine question... Just out of curiosity: Several of the CSS Books I'm studying hard advocate using page navigation to help with accessibility: CSS: #pagenav { display:none; } On the Page: div id=pagenav ul lilinks here/li lilinks here/li /ul /div

RE: CSS and Cloaking Search Engine question...

2004-03-31 Thread Sandy Clark
, Accessibility and CSS _ From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: CSS and Cloaking Search Engine question... Just out of curiosity: Several of the CSS Books I'm studying hard advocate using page navigation to help

Re: CSS and Cloaking Search Engine question...

2004-03-31 Thread Les Mizzell
I would also suggest taking a look at this URI. http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ScreenreaderVisibility Hmm...which makes Designing CSS Web Pages by Christopher Schmitt slightly wrong, don't it? OhhIt's in Zeldman's book as well... -- Les Mizzell ---

Re: CSS and Cloaking Search Engine question...

2004-03-31 Thread Ray Champagne
You definitely get the award for most creative (yet geeky - in a cool way) signature block. Ray http://www.crystalvision.org At 10:50 AM 3/31/2004, Les Mizzell wrote: I would also suggest taking a look at this URI. http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ScreenreaderVisibility Hmm...which

OT: CSS and Cloaking Search Engine question...

2004-03-30 Thread Les Mizzell
Just out of curiosity: Several of the CSS Books I'm studying hard advocate using page navigation to help with accessibility: CSS: #pagenav { display:none; } On the Page: div id=pagenav ul lilinks here/li lilinks here/li /ul /div This is certainly a good thing and I've started using it myself