Re: Remove all CF comments
If you need a tool that understands tags, the jericho html parser is probably a good bet. It won't get script comments though. :den -- I don't think nationalism is alone holding the field; it's in contention with a lot of different things. Peter Singer ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350171 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Q re new CF9 Spreadsheet* functions
There's also JExcelAPI for generating Excel files. Way nicer API than POI, and I've got a custom tag somewhere around here for using it, if you're interested. Really though, I'd recommend using JasperReports. It's an *awesome* reporting engine, and has a *kick ass* GUI report editor (that is cross platform, BTW). You can export in PDF, Excel, PPT, and about 10 other formats. Really just excellent stuff, and way, *way* better than the sorta hit-and-miss style editing required for many other solutions (like HTML = PDF). Just thought I'd toss those out there. Using JasperReports is great for offloading processing as well (if you're going to be generating a bunch of stuff). :Den -- Every existing thing is born without reason, prolongs itself out of weakness, and dies by chance. Jean-Paul Sartre On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Dave Burns wrote: The Excel approach seemed like a winner but in the end, I had to ditch it. In the end, I hit what appears to be a well-known problem and a known limitation for cfspreadsheet. The current design of the spreadsheet functionality makes it hard (impossible?) to optimally share cell formats across cells and that makes Excel hit an internal limit. Excel then decides on its own which cells will not receive any formatting. I am setting the cell formats for a few hundred cells in the worksheet although there are only 4 or 5 truly unique formats. That works fine until I then create many similar sheets within the same workbook. When you open the XLS in Excel, you get an error message re Too many different cell formats. (see http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html#bugId=82627 for Adobe's bug report and http://support.microsoft.com/kb/213904 for background info) My theory then is that every time you call spreadsheetFormatRow or spreadsheetFormatCell, the underlying library CF uses does not optimize how the format is applied. I experimented but couldn't see a way through the CF API to force it to be smarter. In the end, I had to back off to making a PDF which, with CF's PDF library CSS limitations meant no rotated text. In the meantime, a few notes to help those in the future: - when setting a format struct's rotation value, use a string for negative values, i.e. format.rotation = '-60' or you'll get an exception. - I could not get formats to work at all unless I set a cell value, even if to an empty string. This leads to another problem: - Setting cell values is SLOW. I looped through a grid of 20x16 cells, setting them to the empty string. That added generation time of 8 seconds. - Setting column widths and row heights was unreliable for me unless I did that after all cell formats were set. - It's unclear what the value is that is passed to spreadsheetSetRowHeight/ColumnWidth. The doc says it's in points. When I set it to X and then look at the resulting spreadsheet in Excel, Excel tells me a different value than X. db ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344068 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: htaccess - 301 - wildcard and remove query string.
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
So _part_ of it seems to work. However the query string is still being
appended to the end. Is there a way to nix that?
Try adding a ?
RewriteRule ^([^\/]*)/sales/([0-9]){1}/(122) mysite.com/sales/$2/$3/?
Dunno if it'll work, but mebbe.
:Den
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Re: Storing Arrays or Structures in a database
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Michael Grant wrote: And you can pass it back and forth between cf and js with no fuss or muss. Well, besides the weird is it a string or a number type of deal that can change 8 to 8.0 and a few other oddities. ;) :Den -- It is easier to make a saint out of a libertine than out of a prig. George Santayana ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343589 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Storing Arrays or Structures in a database
I was mostly just being pedantic. :) It works fine out of the box most the time. And for the rest of the time, there's json.cfc, as Andrew mentioned. :) No joke that it's way better than WDDX. Three cheers for JSON! Hip, hip, hip! :den the pelvis uno -- It is veneer, rouge, aestheticism, art museums, new theaters, etc. that make America impotent. The good things are football, kindness, and jazz bands. George Santayana On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Michael Grant wrote: Given. I have a tendency to always use parseInt anyway, so I don't generally suffer that woe. However your point is well taken... a teeny bit of fuss, with a pinch of muss. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343592 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Old School CFX (TextCrypt) and RSA Encryption
LOL! Life is too short to not get excited whenever one gets a chance. It's the little victories that get me through the days. :-) Heh. Funny you should mention class loaders. Spent the last like 20 hours dicking around with this crazy classloader problem with embedded jetty. I'd think that, by this point, I shouldn't be having classloader issues anymore. Sheesh. =)p Anyways, since I'm up for air for a bit: It looks like the delphi BigInts are 2d arrays with contents and bytes (I think that's why it builds the hex in reverse?). I'm actually not sure how I can dump them other than the hex deal... it's been over a decade since I've seriously messed with pascal-ish-ness (it was the turbo variety :)). I can see the values when I hover over the var while debugging tho. =] I could try looping through the array, and dumping the elements as ints I guess, but I honestly don't know how it's really implemented. I don't have source file for it, or the TRSA library (there was a binary version on the original site). What I'm really curious about is how he did his base64 routine, but that's in rsa.pas, which I don't have. So even the hex didn't work, eh? As far as how I got the output: I literally just dropped that function into the sample program that the binary TRSA binary comes with, as that's apparently where it came from, even though it's not in the sample. Then I added a text box to display the value. Hrm. I'll take a stab at dumping the values from the array... the ultimate would be getting the rsa.pas file, so we could *see* what's going on. Darn. I was really hoping that hex would do it. Ah well. It still /feels/ close... ;-) :Den -- So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence. Bertrand Russell On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Leigh wrote: The raw data seems to work: That is the point I was at before with the original base64 strings. Decoding and encrypting *seemed* to work, but the final results did not match. I tried several angles, but still no joy. I do not know what tool you used to test your changes to the delphi demo program..? But a basic question would be what does the delphi library say all of the BigInteger values are? ie Not in hex or base64, but as plain numbers. Right now we do not have a complete before and after picture :) -Leigh ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343143 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Old School CFX (TextCrypt) and RSA Encryption
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Leigh wrote:
Cool. I was trying to play around with it, but did not get that far ;-)
So that is a hex representation of the 512 bit
RSA public key. Theoretically.
Could you print the modulus and exponent parts of the public key separately?
That is what is needed for cf/java.
I am still trying to figure out how they arrived at that original string,
which is supposedly base64 encoded. Maybe seeing the modulus and exponent
parts will help.
I'm thinking you are right in guessing that the base64 routine isn't a
normal base64 routine.
The raw data seems to work:
var exponent =
createObject(java,java.math.BigInteger).init(C355,16);
var modulus =
createObject(java,java.math.BigInteger).init(BFDF38C9703C07CB6877A41C4B05F5E03EAFC6579F2263CF686289C13B96CCFE9587F5C9FF2D8787A784D0DD8EE1B79CD96BB969611E0E42603EB6E4A23CBE3D,16);
var pubKeySpec = createObject(java,
java.security.spec.RSAPublicKeySpec).init(modulus,exponent);
var factory =
createObject(java,java.security.KeyFactory).getInstance(RSA);
var keyInstance = factory.generatePublic(pubKeySpec);
But no matter how I played around with it, converting the original
base64 encoded string didn't come anywhere near that--
OMG! I had a thought while typing this, and I think I had a
revelation. Remember how the docs mention things being a byte shorter
to speed things up? Yeah.
I just tried dumping the b64 stuff using sun.misc.BASE64Decoder, as a
bit of a sanity check, and I'll be damned if the string wasn't almost
what it should be. My nips got hard. By adding a 0, both CF and Sun
reported the same results!
Ex:
cfdump var=#binaryEncode(binaryDecode('++11Ik','base64'),'base64')#
label=orig
string ++11Ig==
cfdump var=#binaryEncode(binaryDecode('++11Ik0','base64'),'base64')#
label=wazero
string ++11Ik0=
Closer, neh?
I can freaking smell victory! I gotta switch gears, but I figured I'd
toss this out there, even though it pains me to be so close
(theoretically) and not to be able to say SOLVED!.
If I was a selfish person, I'd wait till I figured it out myself, and
post the solution. I'm a team player though. The goal isn't personal
awesomeness, or whatever. Plus, I'm mad awesome already... ;)
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Re: Old School CFX (TextCrypt) and RSA Encryption
This here is the output from that function for the public key: BFDF38C9703C07CB6877A41C4B05F5E03EAFC6579F2263CF686289C13B96CCFE9587F5C9FF2D8787A784D0DD8EE1B79CD96BB969611E0E42603EB6E4A23CBE3D Should help in tracking down a cf+java solution. Assuming it's correct. ;) Technically, I could probably write a batch converter in Pascal, er, Delphi, but that wouldn't be as cool, IMHO. :Den -- Right discipline consists, not in external compulsion, but in the habits of mind which lead spontaneously to desirable rather than undesirable activities. Bertrand Russell On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Brook Davies wrote: Thanks for looking at this guys! I found the old website for the author of this component (but its now out of business) via the way back machine: http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20070201202513/http://crypto-central.com/ Under the aecRSA component it says Compatibility to standard RSA keys (example program here) and there is a link to: http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20061017134002/http://www.crypto-central.co m/software/RSALoading.zip However, I have no experience in Delphi and am not able to review any of that source code. I've posted it as a job on Odesk, and I'll let you know if they figure anything out! Brook -Original Message- From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] Sent: March-16-11 2:45 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Old School CFX (TextCrypt) and RSA Encryption I played with this a little bit last night, just because I loves me a challenge like this, but didn't really get anywhere. Aren't they inverting the words when doing the hex conversion? Did you try that too? Seems like the solution is right there, but I didn't solve it. =/ Brook, if you can get a copy of the TRSA library, what about using delphi to convert the existing keys with their example? :Den -- Patriots always talk of dying for their country and never of killing for their country. Bertrand Russell On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Leigh wrote: In cf/java it would be something like ... Whoops, I hit send too soon. I was going to add: but reversing those steps with the TextCrypt string does not yield the correct results. Hopefully that example might help the author see what we are missing or what additional steps are needed to decode the string. -Leigh ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343112 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Old School CFX (TextCrypt) and RSA Encryption
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Leigh wrote: This here is the output from that function for the public key: You lost me ;-) Which function and what value(s) does that string represent? LOL :) Sorry. That is the output from the delphi function he posted. TfrmRSATest.btnGetPrivKeyClick Tweaked to this: ... RSA1.GetPublicKey (TempModulus, TempInverse); ... // show the hex value Edit1.Text := TempString; ShowMessage(TempString); So I could copy and paste the result from the key. =) Turns out you can just drop that function into the demo code for the library, which Brook basically posted a link to. So that is a hex representation of the 512 bit RSA public key. Theoretically. Pascal and assembly were the first languages I actually tried to do stuff with, way back in the day. Delphi is all fancy, but I wondered if it would be easy to try out the function-- and it was. Woohoo! If you convert that hex, does it work? That's the million dollar question, I reckon. I'll get around to trying it myself, but I'm working on some other stuff right now. Just thought that would be a nice bit of data to have, theoretical or no. :-) I find challenges like this one specifically, enjoyable. Nice break from the we need it yesterday report for the IRS that burned a lot of cycles. ;-) :Den -- Science is what you know, philosophy is what you don't know. Bertrand Russell ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343114 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Old School CFX (TextCrypt) and RSA Encryption
I played with this a little bit last night, just because I loves me a challenge like this, but didn't really get anywhere. Aren't they inverting the words when doing the hex conversion? Did you try that too? Seems like the solution is right there, but I didn't solve it. =/ Brook, if you can get a copy of the TRSA library, what about using delphi to convert the existing keys with their example? :Den -- Patriots always talk of dying for their country and never of killing for their country. Bertrand Russell On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Leigh wrote: In cf/java it would be something like ... Whoops, I hit send too soon. I was going to add: but reversing those steps with the TextCrypt string does not yield the correct results. Hopefully that example might help the author see what we are missing or what additional steps are needed to decode the string. -Leigh ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343084 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF9 CreateObject() Maps From Current Directory First?
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Matt Quackenbush wrote: Perhaps I should just drink more. :-) The trick is to be at the same level of intoxication as you were when writing the code. Since this is third party code, it may well require a sorta brute force approach to figuring out the correct level-- unless you've got the BMI and # and kind of stuff drunk by the original author. Hey, there's one for the release notes, neh? When writing section X, I'd had 6 shots of tequila over a span of 1 and a half hours. I'm 6 feet 3 inches tall and weigh 185 lbs. Might help to know what music was being jammed at code inception as well, come to think of it. I see a whole new paradigm opening up. :Den -- It is possible that mankind is on the threshold of a golden age; but, if so, it will be necessary first to slay the dragon that guards the door, and this dragon is religion. Bertrand Russe ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342981 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF9 CreateObject() Maps From Current Directory First?
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Matt Quackenbush wrote: LOL. The great thing is, I know this dood that could totally automate all of that with this badass little thingy called cfdistro. I should talk to him. :-) If only that punk would add some documentation and commit the stuff he's got hanging out locally! ;) I heard that like 90% of that code was done to techno music too, so... Heh. :Den -- Italy, and the spring and first love all together should suffice to make the gloomiest person happy. Bertrand Russ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342984 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Change in ColdFusion management
Wait, wait, I got one! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w_DqhpMuFY Ok, now we can move it. :Den -- I teach at Harvard that the world and the heavens, and the stars are all real, but not so damned real, you see. Josiah Royce On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Gerald Guido wrote: Worst. Thread. Evar. How do we move a thread to cf-community? :) -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://getrailo.com/ An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342320 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfx_pwtextcrypt CF9
There are examples of doing lots of weird PGP related things here: http://subversion.assembla.com/svn/cfmlprojects/trunk/src/cfopenpgp/src/tag/cfopenpgp/cfc/openpgp.cfc This uses BouncyCastle (you have to add the jars), so it's sorta stand-alone from what CF comes with. It's butt-ugly, but there are some tests a couple dirs up and over... Sounds like the original question was sorted, but I'll toss it out there anyway, as there's examples in there of doing most the java-ish conversions and whatnot (bytearray stuff, etc.). :Den -- Ideas any one can mould as he wishes. Josiah Royce On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Brook Davies wrote: We've been using cfx_pwtextcrypt since 2002, its worked fine on all CF versions right up to CF8. However, it looks like on the 64 Bit CF9, it no longer works. I assume it's a COM related issue. Does anyone know for sure? The tag was able to generate a public/private key pair using RSA 512 bit encryption and subsequently perform encryption/decryption using the keys generated. Does anyone know if there is a way to do this with CF9 without this CFX? Brook D. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342321 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Re: Change in ColdFusion management
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Matt Quackenbush wrote: When Michael Grant comes out and posts in favor of a move by Adobe, you *know* that the world is perfect. :-) Proof! :Den -- For the Absolute, as we now know, all life is individual, but is individual as expressing a meaning. Josiah Royc ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342263 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference? [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Paul Hastings wrote: On 1/31/2011 11:02 AM, denstar wrote: It was based on a percent. So I guess the real number would be 170 out of a 1000. I think. 17%? I suck at math. you said 17 out of 100 people who replied to that survey. that's a useless sample size. Yeah, but I worded it more to sound statistical-ish. Either way... freaking statistics, neh? Brian has a point about the survey, too. Still relatively useless, I reckon. It's all about perspective (or 1000 is a bit better but still tiny compared to the community. My overall point was that surely there's *some* non-zero number of people trying/using coldfusion that wouldn't before, if not just because of the fact that it was a closed architecture. If the number had been 0, perhaps. no, a sample of 1 is still not really worth mentioning besides the fact that it really can't be the only reason for the swap. Why not? Surely money is a factor most places? If you gotta choose between paying a coder, and paying a license... well I guess that sucks, and it should never be like that in Software Land, but hell, it happens. I'd rather have the coder. Even if CFML gives one coder the strength of ten. =) once again be the engine powering said crap. If I switch to PHP, there is, IMHO, markedly less of a chance for Adobe to ever be the engine powering my crap. perhaps but it's hard to say exactly why a shop would swap technologies. sometimes its a stupid a reason as what some clown wrote in one of those tech rags like sys-con. It can be all kinds of stuff. I see hiring CF coders come up quite often, but it's easy as snot to train folks. People like the stuff they like though, be it just cuz they like it, or they read about it in a blog or magazine or some such. Having open source engine alternatives is more ammo for folks fighting for CFML use, hands down. How someone could see this as bad for the language, or us, as coders in said language, is beyond me. And let us not forget that a lot of pointy-headed-bosses *love* big yes that's true but those same pointy-headed-bosses keep a lot of developers employed. Exactly. And a lot of corporate help line call center employees employed. And a lot of lawyers employed. And a lot of other big muckity-mucks gainfully employed. It's almost like a club or separate ecosystem. Super-huge-corp-X would probably naturally gravitate towards Adobe, as they'd be like, on the same team, sorta. I'd guess that it's there, where the Real Money is made anyways. In The Enterprise. I think there's plenty of room for both public and private. I still wouldn't mind seeing the figures. Anecdotal-ish-ly, it seems like the number of OSS projects has exploded over the last couple years. perhaps but it's just as likely that there is now a place to put publicize those OS projects (you know, the one that adobe sponsors). as i said my OS stuff has nothing to do w/either of those. and let me also point out that most of ray-the-OS-engine's apps predate railo/BD going OS. i don't see any causal relationship. Causation, correlation. Yeah. I can dig it. It personally effected me, but I'm just an individual, like everybody else. And to be clear, I'm not knocking Adobe. I'm not saying that they hate open source software or some such. I think they do a lot of stuff that's good. Way more than they get credit for in general, on the list. I like how if you search for CFML, the dev center is the second link on Google. No other language I looked at had that going for it. I like how they sponsor open source projects for incorporating AIR into things and whatnot. It would be cool if more of the sexy CFML apps were listed under Third Party Whatsists, and the category wasn't called Third Party Stuff or whatever. Sorta a showcase of sorts. Neither of the open source engines are pushing things like Mango Blog either, but hell, I could probably send either one a page to put up if I cared that much. That's what's awesome about open source. Well, really, it's that, when I'm like, why the hell is this doing that?, I don't have to get crazy with a decompiler (not that I'd ever decompile anything, this is just an example). Or, when I'm all like, I want this to do that /I can make it happen/! Self-reliance, even if you don't take advantage of it, is a wicked-cool thing to have. But so are stamp collections, to some people, so, take it with a grain of salt. Deadly seriously. =) you claim that prior to BD/railo failing as commercial projects there was no stability in CF? geez that's a stretch. The kind of stability I'm talking of? Obviously not, unless you think whoever owned it at the time would have open sourced it, so it would live on. Would you put money on that? Or would you just live with the bugs in the version that came out in 1999, as it were? 10 years later, saying it's not dead, the last version was just perfect? Do most companies
Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference?
Hi Adam! I dream reality. We all do. Our perception of it is as powerful as whatever it, in fact, is. :) I proclaim CFML is worth sharing!. What you see as fragmentation, I see as coalescentation. What you see as an attempt to tear down, I see as an attempt to build up. We'll have to put all our data together now, to see the numbers, I reckon. Working in a big corporation can suck. I hate all the politics and whatnot that seems to come with the territory. Having to *repeatedly* show folks what is quite obviously good logic, instead of them just getting it the first time. I honestly think that the open source engines can be leveraged to make more money for Adobe than Adobe would have made otherwise, and in turn, make more money for CFML devs that we would have made otherwise. I don't want to see tons of jobs with low wages-- nobody at our diner because there's too many people there, so to speak-- but I wouldn't mind seeing CFML be a bit more visible. It's probably gonna happen just because of evolution. Our language is swell, and keeps getting sweller. It's got that je ne sais quoi. The free that comes with open source is not the kind of free that most people attribute to it. There's nothing wrong with making money, or making various corporations money. Frankly, it seems the most successful open source projects currently have some type of corporate partnership. I think that's evolved, because it makes money. It's easier to have sorta separate entities than to wrap your head around what open source is really all about. But that's just speculation. What I'm trying to get at, and probably achieving poorly, is the idea that it's not an either/or proposition. There's space for both, and indeed, together more can be achieved than separate. At least that's the way it looks. I could be seeing things incorrectly though. Or processing them wrong. It seems logical though. =) The software landscape seems to be changing. It took a while, but you can't deny that Open Source is playing a major role now, when years and years ago so many people proclaimed it couldn't work, even when faced with the data which made the extrapolation pretty straightforward. People need money to eat, and drink, and be merry. Sadly, currency is not going to go away anytime soon, even though we should just skip the middle man and trade in time. Is your time worth my time? Or something like that. Haven't quite worked that bit out, but what I'm saying is there's plenty of loot out there to be had. I guess I'm a poor example, loot-wise, but that's my bad. :) I genuinely feel that CFML developers are much better off today than they were 3 years ago. And 3 years before that. And 3 years before... money-wise, I miss the dot com bubble, even though I never took advantage of it myself, but code-wise, it's all positive feelings. The language continues get more fantastic, which is fabulous, we've got that $$ option for people with $$, and the open source element which seems so hip these days. We're covered. I think the work Adobe your team has done on CFB is awesome. There're not many people who know just how hard developing an IDE for our lovely language can be (even when standing on the shoulders of giants), but I'm one. Kudos, to your team for making it happen, and to Adobe for making it possible. I think that the power lies in our hands. Adobe is in a place plenty of other corps wish they were in. The positioning is swell... it's their game to throw. Played right, the future's bright. But I guess if I knew all that and a bag of chips, I'd be rolling in the dough, so... eh. I keep meaning to make money a priority... =) :Den -- It is a mania shared by philosophers of all ages to deny what exists and to explain what does not exist. Jean-Jacques Rousseau On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Adrocknaphobia wrote: Denny, I think you see the world as you would hope it to be, not for the reality that it is. A commendable quality, but not one Adobe can choose to share with so many CFML careers on the line. It's been 3 years since OpenBD/Railo went open source and removed the price barrier to CFML adoption. 3 years since they gave up their attempts to compete with Adobe commercially. 3 years since they proclaimed CFML is not worth paying for. At any time Adobe could have made (or will make) ColdFusion free. Problem is, cost is not the only barrier to adoption -- a reality many seem to ignore. So, 3 years later, our community for all intensive purposes seems to be shrinking (we have more CF jobs than developers). On top of losing CFML developers, we now have a large amount a fragmentation. It would seem that anything Adobe does in the CFML space is directly combated by the Open CF movement. Because of this, CFML has increasingly become more and more toxic for Adobe. I can't tell you how hard it is to fight for this community within Adobe when a small external faction is recklessly trying to
Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference?
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Dave Watts wrote: ... Now, I don't really have a dog in this fight - while I'm an Adobe partner, and resell Adobe products, I simply haven't seen any impact on that business from the open-source engines. But I haven't seen anything I'd qualify as abuse coming from either Adobe or anyone speaking on Adobe's behalf, even indirectly. It's not abuse to point out the cannibalistic effect that competing open-source engines may have on the ColdFusion market. It strikes me as kind of absurd for the people arguing in favor of these engines to say that they'll draw new developers to CF; perhaps they'll keep people on CF who would otherwise leave, but those are two different things. To me, really only one thing is certain - if ColdFusion does not continue to make money for Adobe, they'll drop it like yesterday's news. My kind of dog fight involves air planes. :) Cannibalistic sounds rather grim, but I guess grim is pretty hot these days. Like Open Source-- The kids love it, and the girls go wild for it. Patience doesn't seem to be a very popular virtue. It's a shame, but it's natural. Why do you think it's absurd to think that open source engines will bring more people? Do you think the only thing that makes a language worth something, is how much it costs? What about my argument about one in the bush, vs. none in the bush? Is that illogical? Different, sure, but... everything's different, relatively generally speakingly. And say Adobe did drop CF-- do you think that would spell the end of the language? I don't consider myself outgoing, but I end up in various circles, and pay a bit of attention... and the various circles, to me, seem to be pointing at Adobe hanging with CFML to be a good idea. Because, obviously, I don't think it will go away if they drop it. On the contrary, I think they're in a good position to maybe, just maybe, keep up with the evolution of the software industry. At least as far as CFML is concerned, but take a look at the landscape here- the writing is on the wall. There's a battle going on, re public/private, open/closed, but it's not about the existence of one or the other anymore-- it's about balance. Adobe knows this. They haven't been contributing AIR stuff to open source projects just to get warm fuzzies. Bah. I love to talk and talk. Who really knows WTF is going on. Not I, surely... but at least I didn't say mindshare. =) FWIW, Railo follows the general theme of software development. The stable version gets more testing than the beta, which gets more testing than the alpha, etc.. Bugs are part of the game. Even Apple products fail sometimes, though they do a pretty good job of downplaying it, IMHO. Amazing; the power of perception! /me looks amazed, emphasistically :Den -- Man is born free and everywhere he is in chains. Jean-Jacques Rousseau ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341777 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference? [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
First off, this portion of the discussion probably belongs on cf-community. There is a whole 'nother portion that I, like Charlie, think should be discussed technically (or constructively). I applaud the folks doing so. On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Paul Hastings wrote: On 1/31/2011 3:05 PM, denstar wrote: ... My overall point was that surely there's *some* non-zero number of people trying/using coldfusion that wouldn't before, if not just because of the fact that it was a closed architecture. you have no proof of that. by your logic i can equally say that having open architecture drove away as many as it attracted. a way of thinking is not facts, that's another form of woo. All I have is educated guesses. Does it seem more logical to you that folks would abandon a good language because there was an open source variant? ... I'd rather have the coder. Even if CFML gives one coder the strength of ten. =) yeah i guess if you can grab a decent coder for the price of a cf license. but that's not even remotely true. And that's not what I said. If I'm incorrect, at least let me be incorrect about what I was talking about. :) Having open source engine alternatives is more ammo for folks fighting for CFML use, hands down. ammo doesn't mean squat if it's not used to hit what you're supposed to be aiming at. The public numbers I've seen look good. You keep telling me about how you're on the inside, and what I see in not the reality, but all I have is your word. Or woo, if you prefer. :) And it only seems to be focused more on Adobe than CFML. Are we talking about different things? How someone could see this as bad for the language, or us, as coders in said language, is beyond me. it's been explained to you over over. you even acknowledged it said you didn't care (on twitter). Ugh. :) You said something that sounded like hearsay, and I said even it it were true, I felt that open source alternatives were good for the language. muckity-mucks gainfully employed. It's almost like a club or separate ecosystem. those other parts are but a cf developer there is just as important to the cf community as a cf developer in a small shop. btw i don't see *you* declaring some vow of poverty, so might as well stop with these kinds of comparisons until you do. Heh. I guess if I lied and called it intentional... ;) where the Real Money is made anyways. In The Enterprise. why do you think enterprise is some kind of swear word? we built enterprise level systems for municipalities here that helped increase their tax rolls (by helping make everybody who was supposed to pay taxes, actually pay them) silly little things like track school kid vaccinations. the tax justice we helped with allowed those cities to buy more toys like fire trucks have more money to waste on things like parks youth programs. Not at all. Didn't you watch that South Park episode? Enterprise ain't evil. Hell, it's the name of a mighty fine starship. And to be clear, I'm not knocking Adobe. I'm not saying that they some of your previous remarks kind of sound like that. You can be pro X without implying anti Y. I can't control how you see what I type, but I've tried to type stuff that's pro-CFML, regardless of who's behind it, and emotion, belief, etc.. ... sure but 99.99% of developers aren't going to go that deep or need to. and from what i've seen w/other OS projects some of the stuff produced from that 0.01% shouldn't be touched w/a 10 foot pole. You think some of that can be bad, you should see my closed-source stuff. =) ... Why the venom? Even if that was the case, I'd still cheer my heart out. statements of facts are not in of themselves venomous. why fall back to that as an argument? I wasn't arguing, I was hinting that we don't *really* need to be angry in our conversation. Do you have so little faith in the language? more nonsense from you. try again. I worded it harshly, but I really don't understand the idea that good ideas need huge corporations behind them to be successful in the ways that matter. I don't. I know you say it's not true, but I haven't seen the evidence. Can you clue me in to anything solid? you acknowledged this on twitter said you didn't care. remember? I remember saying that even if what you said you'd heard through the back channels was true, I would still be happy we ended up with an open source engine out of the deal. That does not make what you said you heard true and non-woo. Do you have any data? I asked on twitter too. ... Whatever you want to believe, I think it's a happier world with open source CFML engines. i would agree if they were bringing in new developers instead of munching on the cf community's liver. Do you have some kind of numbers to back up this claim that open source engines *aren't* bringing new people into the fold? Looking at mailing list traffic, and other non-direct
Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference?
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Dave Watts wrote: Why do you think it's absurd to think that open source engines will bring more people? Because it doesn't seem to have done so, so far. Because the niche in which CF is popular doesn't seem to care that much about open source or free. Because there are plenty of other open source engines in other languages, and people who care a lot about that seem to have mostly already moved to one of those. There must be a lot of hard data out there that I'm not privy to. :) As far as the niche, /things are changing/. Not that they're not constantly changing, but you have to see what I'm talking about. Open source software is not going to go away. Or maybe it will. Hell, who really knows what the future will bring? It /seems/ to be making more and more inroads, even though for years people predicted it wouldn't, and indeed, couldn't. Maybe it's all smoke and mirrors? It doesn't look that way to me, but I also think that we really *did* go to the moon. I'm not infallible. Those other open source engines aren't CFML. I believe there is a difference. But I'm a CFML fanboi. :) Do you think the only thing that makes a language worth something, is how much it costs? No. I'm not sure where you got that from my previous responses. The bit about it being absurd to think that open source might affect adoption. I What about my argument about one in the bush, vs. none in the bush? That's not an argument, it's speculation. It's not speculation, it's probability. One is more probable than the other. Anything is possible though, so... maybe it is speculation? And say Adobe did drop CF-- do you think that would spell the end of the language? Yeah, I do. I don't think that everyone would switch to comparatively unknown, new alternatives. If a big company like Adobe can't guarantee the future of CF, why would anyone think that these other people can? Because they have the right ingredients? Big companies fuck up all the time. I still don't get this magical power attributed to 'em. Success isn't about the size of the boat, it's about the motion of the ocean. Or something of similar sentiment. :)p :Den -- No man has any natural authority over his fellow men. Jean-Jacques Rousseau ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341782 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference?
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Dave Watts wrote: I look at is as more of a break dancing crew scenario: We battle each other to push ourselves, so that we can go out there and form like Voltron when battling the other crews (PHP, .NET, etc.). It doesn't need to be contentious. Friendly competition is where it's at, yo. This is not how Adobe sees things, I'm sure. You're either using their product, or you're not. If you stop using ColdFusion, no one at Adobe is going to get warm fuzzies by thinking, well, at least they're still using CFML. I know some people at Adobe wouldn't get warm fuzzies, but the ones who pay attention to the long tail might. Look at Refynr. Aaron has a project there that has potential, which he started with Railo. He didn't have the cash for CF, but Railo allowed him to develop in his preferred language anyway. Adobe saw the potential, maybe noticed a bit of buzz, and donated some CF9 and CFB goodness. Now it's running on Adobe's engine, as that's what Aaron is most comfortable with. If Reyfner really takes off, that'd not only be good for CFML in general (us), it'd be good for Adobe, specifically. Or maybe not. Maybe none of that matters. I'm no marketing guru. Hell, they donated the engine, so no direct, up front money was made. Maybe they don't care about language recognition as a factor in engine sales. Or maybe they see a potential for future upgrades. It seems logical to me that, if one is using CFML, there's more of a chance for Adobe to be an engine running it, than if one is using, say, PHP. I dunno. Put another way, I expect that folks change vendors more often than they change platforms. Before alternate engines, the only option was another platform. I'll take one in the bush and none in the hand, if the other option is none in the bush or the hand, so to speak. If I were Adobe, I'd be super stoked that there were communities like the ones around Railo and OpenBD. But I'm also a CFML developer. :) As a CFML developer, I prefer the vendor switch over the platform switch. As an Adobe stockholder, I'd-- well, I'd feel the same. Because I feel that what's good for developers is good for the platform, but perhaps I'm naive. No, I *know* I'm naive. Perpetually so. So feel free to discount all of this. :) :Den -- I hate books; they only teach us to talk about what we don't know. Jean-Jacques Rousse ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341704 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference? [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Paul Hastings wrote: On 1/29/2011 1:26 PM, denstar wrote: Not /exactly/ infinitesimal, but it ain't no flood of newbs, neither. that sample size is more or less useless to base the rest of your arguments on. It was based on a percent. So I guess the real number would be 170 out of a 1000. I think. 17%? I suck at math. Still relatively useless, I reckon. It's all about perspective (or context?), even in math. Crazy as that sounds (I told ya I sucked at math). I don't know how much that has to do with the entrance of the open source engines as viable alternatives, but I feel it's factor. It was for me, anecdotal-y. technically i'd think that would actually be a flight of fancy seeing it's based on a sample of one taken as the sole factor in your shop staying w/cf. If the number had been 0, perhaps. I, however, am living proof of at least one, and unless the other folks were lying, there *are* more than I. The number of supported applications is a factor here too. I don't know if I'm an edge case, but I have lots of CFML powered crap. So long as it stays CFML, there's /at least the potential/ that ACF will once again be the engine powering said crap. If I switch to PHP, there is, IMHO, markedly less of a chance for Adobe to ever be the engine powering my crap. And let us not forget that a lot of pointy-headed-bosses *love* big corps like Adobe. Makes 'em feel warm fuzzies (even if the paid support is generally a lot more expensive and a lot less helpful). I attribute some of that to CFers realizing the *awesome* power of open source, but again, I think the engine alternatives have gone a long way towards helping as well. pretty much all my i18n stuff has been OS long before either BD or railo, has nothing whatsoever to do w/either. so in your anecdote based way of thinking, you are proven wrong ;-) OMG! Proof! ;-) I still wouldn't mind seeing the figures. Anecdotal-ish-ly, it seems like the number of OSS projects has exploded over the last couple years. CFML devs are no longer beholden to some commercial entity's well-being, which adds a *huge* bit of stability to the language that was just plain *not there* prior. seriously? Deadly seriously. =) Do most companies donate the source code to their users when they go out of business, in your experience? I don't know about top. Unless the target is the existing static community, which would seem a rather backwards plan, IMHO. adobe, like any product producer, has to maintain it's base customers. railo's not producing much (if any) new cf customers but is instead cannibalizing the I guess it's all relative. And maybe that 17% is a lie. Nobody likes free good stuff. ;)p existing market. it doesn't follow that adobe will be blowing sweet sweet kisses at railo. It's not about Adobe and Railo having a love-in and making babies ( FWIW, it's us devs bringing the drama). My point was, that not only would Adobe's base have shrunk, but the CFML base would have shrunk as well, had I left. If you only care about Adobe making money, then there is no real difference between the two. However, if you care about your fellow CFML coders putting food on the table, so to speak, then there is a pretty big difference between the two. It doesn't need to be contentious. Friendly competition is where it's at, yo. but you know that friendly competition is not true, even if you say don't care what railo's ultimate plan is. it doesn't seem friendly to me or will it seem very friendly to their existing customers if they do indeed succeed with their plan. I guess I'm just coming from a different perspective. I think that friendly competition is true, and can be one of the bestest forces for furtherance around. Open Source Software is a powerful, driving force in today's software world. That is no conspiracy, that's just math (although the boring way math is portrayed may itself be a conspiracy- but I digress). I am amazingly super happy that there are open source alternatives for CFML these days. I think it's tits for us developers, and tits for the language in general (a pair of tits, if you will). Perhaps I don't have my priorities in order. I would not be surprised one whit. I'm happy though, so, eh- screw it. To each their own! :Den -- I have resolved on an enterprise that has no precedent and will have no imitator. I want to set before my fellow human beings a man in every way true to nature; and that man will be myself. Jean-Jacques Rouss ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341705 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk
Re: Anyone know anything about this new ColdFusion conference?
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Brian Kotek wrote: The reality is that Railo and Open BlueDragon are not growing the market for CFML. No one is *switching to* CFML from PHP, .NET, Ruby, or Java because of the OSS engines. To the extent that this might happen, it is an infinitesimally small number of projects. If any of the OSS engines have data to contradict that assertion, I'd love to see it. Railo publishes stats rather regularly. Mailing list activity, survey results, etc.. I'm thinking they said that in 100 people who complete the survey on download, 17 say they're coming from other language. Not /exactly/ infinitesimal, but it ain't no flood of newbs, neither. I predict that this number will increase over time. Maybe even exponentially! The OSS engines, particularly Railo, were initially touted as a gateway for people working on other platforms, which is why their partnership with JBoss created such hope and expectation. This has not happened. What *has* I for one, was not expecting thousands of new converts within the this time-span. =) JBoss already had Seam, which is in a similar (but not as awesome) space. As the quality open source CFML applications mature, I think we'll see more converts. I have been *very* pleased with the number and quality of open source CFML projects hitting the streets in the last couple of years though. I don't know how much that has to do with the entrance of the open source engines as viable alternatives, but I feel it's factor. It was for me, anecdotal-y. I see the availability of quality open source CFML software as a forerunner to wider adoption. Maybe Ray can publish some numbers from RIAForge? I know Sean put some data out there, not too long ago, which painted a pretty picture of the transition from like 5 open source CFML projects to like 50 over the span of a year, or whathaveyou. I attribute some of that to CFers realizing the *awesome* power of open source, but again, I think the engine alternatives have gone a long way towards helping as well. CFML devs are no longer beholden to some commercial entity's well-being, which adds a *huge* bit of stability to the language that was just plain *not there* prior. happened is that a small but noticeable number of existing ColdFusion users have moved to the OSS engines. As an Adobe Community Professional, I'm privy to more internal information and direct communication with the Adobe employees. The primary drain on the Adobe ColdFusion user base is people moving to one of the OSS CFML engines. Not people leaving for PHP or .NET. People do leave for other platforms, and new people do come in, but that just means that the total size of the CFML community as a whole is fairly static in size. And now that total pie is being divided between CF, Railo, and OBD. Perhaps. Personally, I was about to ditch CFML. If it wasn't for the open source engines, I would have. I don't know how often my story is repeated with others, but I know I'm not alone. I don't think we would have been (if indeed we are) static in number without the open source alternatives. I personally like most of the individual people involved in the OSS projects. I've known many of them for years. So this is not personal at all. But if the biggest drain on the ColdFusion user base is coming from the OSS engines, then Adobe is absolutely right to treat them as their top competitors. To NOT do this would be foolish. If the OSS engines were actually pulling in droves of new users from other platforms, this whole dynamic would probably be much different. But that is simply not the case. I don't know about top. Unless the target is the existing static community, which would seem a rather backwards plan, IMHO. I look at is as more of a break dancing crew scenario: We battle each other to push ourselves, so that we can go out there and form like Voltron when battling the other crews (PHP, .NET, etc.). It doesn't need to be contentious. Friendly competition is where it's at, yo. Anyways, an open engine alone isn't going to pull in droves of people. We need that eye-candy (which, I'll add, I feel we're getting, in the form of quality open source applications) to rope 'em in. I dunno. I look at it from a CFML developer's perspective. If I had stock in Adobe, perhaps I'd see things differently... but I doubt it. For me, it's not about the engine, or sales, or popularity, even. It's about *us*. And open source CFML engines are *nothing* but good for us, as CFML devs, in my opinion. Somehow, I feel that makes it good for Adobe, too. But I could quite possibly be mad as the hatter. :) :Den -- God made me and broke the mold. Jean-Jacques Rousseau ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:
Re: why is cf_builder so expensive?
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Michael Grant wrote: I can sleep, no worries mate. The strength of your opinion belies that statement. You know you lie awake at night, tossing and turning over this in agony. Admit it. =) ... I feel masking the use of php on any CF branded Adobe pages (NOT rewriting dozens of apps in CF) could probably be done for under 20k of internal resourcing. There's a number of ways to handle this either through code or through the webserver. URL rewrite anyone? To me that's a worthwhile decision. You may not think so. And that's fine. I won't be recommending you for a marketing manager any time soon. ;) Maybe they're short on webmasters. Or are worried about the search ranking. :) I'll do the rewrites for a mere 10k! Hell, I'd do it for free, just to never see this raised as a topic again. And to avoid that ugh feeling whenever I see .php at the end of a CF-related page. No offense to PHP, which is a fine language- just less totes awesome than CFML. ... Well no one knows their business better than Adobe. They know what they're doing much better than you. You are handsome Mr. Grant. You forgot modest. I always include that in my responses when speaking of your handsomeness, just for completeness. :Den -- Happiness: a good bank account, a good cook, and a good digestion. Jean-Jacques Rousseau ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341686 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 6502 (was Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?)
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Russ Michaels wrote: Believe it or not there is still a C64 scene going strong, people still writing demos etc. So maybe you can find your old games. I always wanted to go to a demo party in like, Norway or some such. *le sigh* Guess I ain't dead yet, and they /are/ still happening, so... =) :Den -- The world does not speak. Only we do. The world can, once we have programmed ourselves with a language, cause us to hold beliefs. But it cannot propose a language for us to speak. Only other human beings can do that. Richard Rorty ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340775 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: drag and drop widgets
My fav is Dojo. It's just awesome. http://archive.dojotoolkit.org/nightly/dojotoolkit/dojo/tests/dnd/test_dnd.html Check out the syntax, too (view source). The markup version will be pretty easy for CFers to pick up. Ex: div dojoType=dojo.dnd.Source jsId=c4 class=container copyOnly=true selfAccept=false delay=8 div class=dojoDndItemItem 1/div div class=dojoDndItemItem 2/div div class=dojoDndItemItem 3/div /div :Den -- Truth is simply a compliment paid to sentences seen to be paying their way. Richard Rorty On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 3:12 PM, John M Bliss wrote: Hi, CF'ers. What's your current favorite method (JS/CSS/etc library) to allow for dragging and dropping widgets (page sections) around pages like on http://www.google.com/ig -- John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340791 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Michael Grant wrote: I truly fear it may be a day late and a dollar short. I think it's the right time, at the right price. OpenBD is also quite nice. =) With viable open source solutions, the idea that we, as developers, are responsible for growing adoption, is finally true. There are no excuses now. At least not for us devs. If you're paying for a license, sure, ladle some of that responsibility on. Though I'm not trying to imply there's a lack of effort from Adobe. Honestly... hell, I've been doing it for like, I dunno, 12+ years at least, and I never really saw CFML out there, regardless of who was at the helm. Making something popular might not be as easy as it seems. And isn't necessarily a good thing-- what's that Yogi quote? Nobody goes there anymore because it's too crowded. I think MySpace was the most publicized I'd ever seen CF, and that didn't end well, though no fault of the language. The internet is a hell of a lot tamer than it was 20 years ago, but it's still pretty damn wild. Freaking *oodles* of the latest high dollar (in worth), high profile sites/applications have come about not because of the language used (or marketing of said language), but because of like, one or two dudes or chicks with an idea. CFML is *perfect* for such things. And again, we didn't have a viable open source solution until the last couple years, if that. I note this because it seems like most, if not all, of the recent *madly* successful web applications leverage open source languages. So... I guess I'm saying that time might be a localized phenomena. =) The sky is the limit, IMO. We have not yet begunned to fight. Sally forth, and multiply! :Den -- All of my misfortunes come from having thought too well of my fellows. Jean Jacques Rousseau ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340834 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: iCal Version 4.0.3/vCalendar Auto Accept Issue
If you want them all to be imported with one accept, vs. having to do each individually, I think you need to have the uid match the event, instead of giving each one a unique uid (maybe just eventid instead of regid+eventid?). Basically, I'd look into what you're doing with uid, and maybe check out recurrence-id. Kind of a shot in the dark, but it's all I got. =) (Well, I've also got some code for using ical4j w/CF, if you want to go hardcore. =]) :Den -- The greatest men of a nation are those it puts to death. Ernest Renan On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Matthew Lowrey wrote: HoF iCal Version 4.0.3/vCalendar Experts: We have a tool for our students that will allow them to export an .ics file to import into either their Google calendar, Outlook Calendar, or iCal/Entourage for Mac/Macbook. Recently we had a student that after importing the .ics file into a MacBook iCal program had to manually accept/deny every event in her calendar. Is there a way to add in an auto accept in our vCalendar code that will make that change? We have tested our code against the iCal Version 3.0.8 (1287) and it works fine. Then we tested Version 4.0.3 (1388) and the problem showed up here. I did find some documentation that I thought would work/help me find what I needed (Ref: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc5545/?include_text=1) and it had the option of participate accept/deny so I tried that and it didn't seem to work. If any of you have experience working with this I would love any advice in this matter. Thank you! Matt... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340590 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Internationalization of Week() function in CF - Last resort to Java [spamtrap heur] [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Paul Hastings wrote: On 12/23/2010 1:12 PM, denstar wrote: You deal with it a lot. I dabble, and went to a nifty presentation on Joda, so... works for me. =) but joda has no functionality for using locales nor for figuring out week start days, etc based on locales. can't see how it would work for anybody in this case. You can plop the locale stuff in there as your own Chronology, to say, have a week start on Sunday instead of Monday, neh? Or maybe just do a minus-1 somewhere? It goes by the ISO deal, I guess, natively. Which I think was part of the purpose of it... The nifty bits, as I recall from the presentation, had more to do with doing math on/with dates, and the use of static, which avoids a bunch of messy stuff you can get into with the normal stuff like Calendar. I don't really remember all the details offhand, but it was a good presentation, and pointed out how odd things can get when you're not using staticly typed Calendar-thingies and whatnot. Mostly because it's easy to forget how programming can work sometimes. Like that presentation those two guys give were you look at a problem, and you're like, that looks like it would produce X!, and they're like Gotcha! It produces Z!. =) Like I said, I just dabble, so it's more of a theoretical deal for me. You work with it a lot, so I'd go by your suggestion. It was a nifty presentation though. Thought I'd mention it. =) :Den -- Vain hopes are like certain dreams of those who wake. Marcus Fabius Quintili ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340242 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Internationalization of Week() function in CF - Last resort to Java [spamtrap heur]
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Paul Hastings wrote: ... supplying a user's locale will ensure you get their week numbers correct without having to resort to universalities that aren't. +1! final bit of advice, if you want to get the best/latest locale data, use the icu4j lib instead of core java. Joda seems pretty swell too. :Den -- Those who wish to appear wise among fools, among the wise seem foolish. Marcus Fabius Quintilian ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340237 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Care to Beta test new ColdFusion Exception Manager App?
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Saman Jayasekara wrote: I just posted Kakapo: Enhanced ColdFusion Exception/error Manager App. Care to Beta test anyone? http://cflove.org/2010/11/coldfusion-error-handler.cfm Seems nifty! No time to test ATM, but does it have a throttle, so you don't accidentally DoS yourself? :Den -- Though ambition in itself is a vice, yet it is often the parent of virtues. Marcus Fabius Quintilian ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340238 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Internationalization of Week() function in CF - Last resort to Java [spamtrap heur] [spamtrap bayes][spamtrap heur]
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Paul Hastings wrote: On 12/23/2010 11:19 AM, denstar wrote: Joda seems pretty swell too. always thought joda was kind of like swatting a fly w/a battleship specific to this case it don't know no steenking locales ;-) Heh! =)p I am partial to battleships as fly killers. Giant, mutant flies, obviously. icu4j is almost always the best choice when it comes to i18n functionality. You deal with it a lot. I dabble, and went to a nifty presentation on Joda, so... works for me. =) :Den -- To swear, except when necessary, is becoming to an honorable man. Marcus Fabius Quintilian ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340240 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Parsing transitional HTML using xmlparse()
Railo has a function called htmlParse() that will clean up html into xhtml, but I /think/ it's only a Railo deal. You can use something like JTidy, or Jericho HTML parser, etc., etc., if you're uncertain of what the input will be, and just need valid output. If you *know* that it will only be elements X, Y and Z that need cleaning, you could do it yourself as part of pre-processing. :Den -- In almost everything, experience is more valuable than precept. Marcus Fabius Quintilian On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Michael Grant wrote: I have the following code pseudo code as an example: table tr td Some text here and br's that don't close. br a href=urlimg src=url/a/td /tr /table I would like to parse this with xmlParse so that I can use dot notation to traverse it as a struct. However when I use xmlParse I get an error because the img and br tags aren't closed. The doc type is transitional. What's the best way to accomplish this? I'm using cf8 developer edition on my home machine. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340185 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: help with a rewrite rule
Might need to escape that slash: RewriteRule ^\/scripts\/(.*) /scripts/$1 [L] On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:41 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: I would think it would be something like this: RewriteRule ^/scripts/(.*) /scripts/$1 [L] That's Apache style, but they're similar, right? HIH! :Den -- The omission of good is no less reprehensible than the commission of evil. Plutarch On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Mark A. Kruger wrote: Come on folks... someone has to be know this... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:34 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: help with a rewrite rule
I would think it would be something like this: RewriteRule ^/scripts/(.*) /scripts/$1 [L] That's Apache style, but they're similar, right? HIH! :Den -- The omission of good is no less reprehensible than the commission of evil. Plutarch On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Mark A. Kruger wrote: Come on folks... someone has to be know this... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340002 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: index.cfm being hacked (now application.cfm)
Here's some Apache rewrites that do the same type of stuff the cgi checks do, but since it happens at the apache level, it takes the work off of the cfml engine: http://subversion.assembla.com/svn/cfmlprojects/trunk/conf/httpd/security.rewrites.conf For this particular occurrence, I'd check that all the latest hotfixes have been applied (specifically the fckeditor file upload fix), and any file upload related code, as it doesn't seem like a sql injection exploit. Wouldn't hurt to look at the time the file was modified, as well as the webserver logs, to see if you can see when, where, and how, either. :Den -- The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled. Plutarch ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339959 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: REGEX hell
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Peter Boughton wrote: To be clear, CF uses the Apache ORO library, which is different to both Perl and Java Regex. I've found the QuickREx Eclipse plugin *invaluable* for regular expression work. It supports several different regex engines, has libraries of regexes... It's fantastic! :Den -- The most important part of education is proper training in the nursery. Plato ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339537 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Where to put your code
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Dave Watts wrote: Adobe is a big company, with a bunch of products. Adobe's web site predates the Macromedia merger. Should they rewrite their site with CF to make it more prominent, or should they focus on building and selling their tools? Are the two mutually exclusive? =)p Yes, in the very real sense that there is a finite amount of resources. I'd much rather have Adobe hire more CF product developers and testers, etc, than pay developers to rewrite their site. I was mostly just poking fun, as I'm a two birds... kind of guy (to a fault). =) I do feel that there is a lot more to a successful product than coders and testers though. And I really think CFML is a bang'n web language. Maybe if the site is done, never to be modified or maintained, there's little direct benefit to a rewrite, partial or otherwise... *shrug* Resources being finite doesn't really change the ratio of bang:buck. =) ColdFusion isn't just a product. It's useful, too! I wonder (pure speculation), if seeing more CFML powered apps would somehow help sell more CFML engines, which would in turn pay for more CFML engine development? =)p There's a lot of ways to skin a cat, they say, and far be it for me to be telling anyone what to do. I just don't see it as an either/or type of deal, limited resources or no. I'm pretty good at rationalizing though. =) :Denny -- Music is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to everything. Plat ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339347 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfscript based components formatting
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: ... (it doesn't affect my position that comments should never change the semantics of code - although, as noted by Ray, the example given only affects metadata so it would only affect the semantics of a program that tested that metadata... in other words, it could still change the behavior of code!) I like JavaDoc. =) Something just strikes me as weird when I see hint=a lot of stuff, maybe even hyperlinks and you know, * bullets * and * whatnot, all sorta mixed in there. I like the idea of going with something that works with the semantics of the ultimate program, the programmer. Maybe other people don't mind that kind of thing though. Yes, JavaDoc rocks, IMHO. =) :Den -- Man is a wingless animal with two feet and flat nails. Plato ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339344 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Where to put your code
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Dave Watts wrote: ... Adobe is a big company, with a bunch of products. Adobe's web site predates the Macromedia merger. Should they rewrite their site with CF to make it more prominent, or should they focus on building and selling their tools? Are the two mutually exclusive? =)p :Denny -- Man never legislates, but destinies and accidents, happening in all sorts of ways, legislate in all sorts of ways. Plato ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339345 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Closing Browser expires session/cookie
Naw, if I meant it like that I'd be all like, [lmgtfy] FOAD! vs. [lmgtfy] HAND!. :) I'm down with Bentley, yo! So there! =) :Den -- Freedom is a system based on courage. Charles Peguy On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Michael Grant wrote: OT: lmgtfy.com = what did the five fingers say to the face? On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:42 AM, denstar wrote: On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tony Bentley wrote: So I have an app that uses cflogin, which works great if the user logs in and out from the same browser. Now here is where I am stumped: -User logs in, then closes the browser -System does not allow the same user to be logged in more than once -System logs all logged in users -System removes user from log onSessionEnd() How can I remove the user from the log when they close the browser? I think the best you can do is invalidate their previous session when they try to log in again. So they can still only be logged in once, but it's the current session that is the master, and the old session is discarded/invalidated. Due to the nature of sessions, this is the best you can do. A thread on Ben's blog goes into a lot of depth about it. Probably the first hit on google: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=expiring+cookies+when+browser+closes+coldfusionl=1 (enable javascript to see the nifty typing action) :) :Den -- A word is not the same with one writer as with another. One tears it from his guts. The other pulls it out of his overcoat pocket. Charles Peguy ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338909 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Formatting the output of a text datatype
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Russ Michaels wrote: You can also find useful functions on cflib.org for formatting and remove word crap. Htmltidy may also help you, this is not a cfml tag though so use google. Totally! cflib.org roxors. You can probably find something that sanitizes the input for XSS attacks and whatnot too, which shouldn't be overlooked. I'd google it for the OP, but the OP doesn't know me that well, and thus I might be interpreted incorrectly. ;)p :Den -- He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the accomplice of liars and forgers. Charles Peguy ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338910 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Closing Browser expires session/cookie
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tony Bentley wrote: So I have an app that uses cflogin, which works great if the user logs in and out from the same browser. Now here is where I am stumped: -User logs in, then closes the browser -System does not allow the same user to be logged in more than once -System logs all logged in users -System removes user from log onSessionEnd() How can I remove the user from the log when they close the browser? I think the best you can do is invalidate their previous session when they try to log in again. So they can still only be logged in once, but it's the current session that is the master, and the old session is discarded/invalidated. Due to the nature of sessions, this is the best you can do. A thread on Ben's blog goes into a lot of depth about it. Probably the first hit on google: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=expiring+cookies+when+browser+closes+coldfusionl=1 (enable javascript to see the nifty typing action) :) :Den -- A word is not the same with one writer as with another. One tears it from his guts. The other pulls it out of his overcoat pocket. Charles Peguy ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338897 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Getting rid of maliceous code embedded in a jpg
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Terry Troxel wrote: I am trying to allow perspective clients to try my templates image tools in order to see if it will help sway them. I do not have any image samples with malicious code nor do I want any. My question is if I use the coldfusion image tags or my trusty cf_imagecr after the upload will it remove any of this or how about I save it as a png? I do not want to open up any possible security issues. There was an awesome thread on the Railo list, titled CFFile and MIME types, that covered this issue a bit. I think in the end, a virus scanner was the best bet? Maybe trying to convert the image to a different type would do the trick too, I can't remember if that was covered. There was a link for something that looked interesting: http://hul.harvard.edu/jhove/ But I don't know if it would work. I never got around to writing a wrapper for it to test with. =) I bet conversion would be enough, though you'd probably run into the odd legitimate file that didn't convert, for whatever reason. Better that than the alternative though, I say. There are potential false-positives with virus scanners too, although I'd wager less. :Den -- Any father whose son raises his hand against him is guilty of having produced a son who raised his hand against him. Charles Peguy ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338899 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Question about using javascript in .cfm files...
It's pretty much exactly the same. Even more exacter if you set the
content type to text/javascript or whatever using cfcontent.
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On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote:
I've been using js files as .cfm files
so I can intermix cf variables in the js.
i.e., naming myJSFile.js, myJSFile.js.cfm, instead.
This seems to work fine, but I've run into an issue
that makes me wonder if this works in all cases as
a regular js file would.
Here's the question:
If I have a js function in a .cfm file, would the
declared function be defined by the browser
upon first entering a page as it would if the function
were in a .js file?
e.g., should the function checkUserFavorites:
function checkUserFavorites(USERID) {
blah, blah, blah
be defined if the js were in a .cfm file as readily
as it would in a .js file?
I keep running into a checkUserFavorites is not defined
for which I cannot track down the problem.
I'm reaching for an answer at this point, because I can't
otherwise explain the error message otherwise, yet.
Thanks for any feedback.
Rick
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Re: Apache Axis Upgrade
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Donnie Carvajal wrote: I'm running CF 9 and the default version of Apache Axis is 1.2. I would like to upgrade Apache Axis to 1.4. Does anyone know of any potential issues with upgrading the version of Apache Axis and CF 9? Offhand, it'll probably affect web service related stuff. Potentially hazardous, let's say. Can you use a javaloader instead? Otherwise, replace it, and run some tests, and see if it affects anything you're using. :Den -- There are no facts, only interpretations. Friedrich Nietzsc ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338307 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfdocument text cuts off at page break
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 4:39 AM, James Holmes wrote: I'll +1 flying saucer. I've just implemented it using JavaLoader (the iText version required clashes with that on CF8) and it works well (better than cfdocument). For some reason I didn't think about this until now, but I'm relatively sure that there is a patch on the Flying Saucer site that made it work at least with Railo's built in iText version, perhaps CF's as well. I'm pretty sure that these jars: http://subversion.assembla.com/svn/cfmlprojects/trunk/src/cffspdf/lib/ Have that patch compiled in. Might want to give it a spin, see if it negates the need of the custom classloader. FWIW, if any of you are running Railo, this project is available as an Extension, installable from the Railo Admin. :Den -- The most common lie is that which one lies to himself; lying to others is relatively an exception. Friedrich Nietzsche ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338257 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfdocument text cuts off at page break
This doesn't have the JavaLoader stuff, but handles some things that might be useful: http://subversion.assembla.com/svn/cfmlprojects/trunk/src/cffspdf/src/tag/cffspdf/cfc/fspdf.cfc :Den -- The doer alone learneth. Friedrich Nietzsche ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338245 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF jQuery Grid
Dojo's freaking ROXORS! http://www.dojotoolkit.org/reference-guide/dojox/grid/EnhancedGrid.html I've got a wrapper for cf somewhere 'round here, but it's not super useful. Nothing compares to dojo, imho. Nothing. :) :Den -- The essence of all beautiful art, all great art, is gratitude. Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Russ Michaels wrote: ave you looked at EXT JS, this is much better for all the grid/data type widgets ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338247 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF jQuery Grid
Thanks for reminding me there is yet another browser to test crap in. Really, thanks. =) :Den -- The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself. Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: Given that IE9 was first released in a public beta exactly one month ago, I think that Dojo can be forgiven for not supporting it yet. I'm also not sure what you mean by outside the .Net world. If you are looking at javascript, .Net MVC bundles JQuery. If you are looking at a control, there are some decent ones, but for web pages they are all ActiveX which means they won't be cross-browser or cross-platform. Cheers, Judah On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Andrew Scott wrote: Except it doesn't work on IE9 in anyway shape or form. But I think ExtJS is by far the best outside of the .Net world. Regards, Andrew Scott http://www.andyscott.id.au ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338251 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfdocument text cuts off at page break
The solution? JasperReports. =) :Den -- The best author will be the one who is ashamed to become a writer. Friedrich Nietzsche On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Tony Bentley wrote: Why didn't Adobe fix some of the simple needed changes in CF9 for cfdocument? I have no idea. Known issues that suck: -THEAD does not carry over on page break. The solution? Use cfreportbuilder (god help me). - Border collapse does not work. The solution? Write some really funky inline styles at the first row of the table, last row of the table and first/last td of each row. (How much has this cost our company?) -Table breaks in the middle of a row. No solution. (Shoot me) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338183 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfdocument text cuts off at page break
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Rick Root wrote: On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:03 PM, denstar wrote: The solution? JasperReports. =) Why go with jasperReports when CFREPORT does the same thing (and actually is jasperReports under the hood)? And there are many cases where a true report writer like cfreport (or jasper) doesn't suit the needs when you just need to produce a PDF document. If it's not tabular reporting, you pretty much *HAVE* to use cfdocument. cfdocument and cfreport do not really compete with each other. Sure, there's lots of cases where all you want is a quick and dirty PDF, but if you're going through all this effort... and the reports can be served as HTML... ;) But if you really must have a decent cfdocument replacement, there's always flying saucer (https://xhtmlrenderer.dev.java.net/). I've got a custom tag for that, which probably works for ACF too (I've only used it in Railo). Really though, JasperReports is sweet for a lot of other reasons. You can export the hell out of those reports. PowerPoint y todo. And with jasperreports, writing the report XML by hand is totally doable, which I don't recall as being doable with cfreport (I could be wrong tho). Anyways, Flying Saucer is nice because you can control a lot of stuff with special CSS. :Den -- The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad. Friedrich Nietz ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338221 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: report builder similar to ms access
The most dynamical thing I've found so far is using JasperServer. It doesn't quite let you create free-form reports, but it has a lot of stuff you can use that lets the end user configure a report, and can produce reports in like 15 different formats. It is awesome. Eventually I'll get around to writing an HTML-based WYSIWYG JasperReport editor, for use with the cfjasperreport tag, which *will* be a free-form type of deal. The XML used for JasperReports is pretty easy to write, if you need free-form, you could whip up an editor and use the cfjasperreport custom tag. Another solution is to leverage iReport for the actual report design, with the JasperServer plugin. iReport is awesomeness too. :Den -- Madness is rare in individuals - but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule. Friedrich Nietzsche On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Richard White wrote: thanks for the reply. correct me if im wrong as although i have looked at it i dont know it in depth, i thought it was inflexible as it wouldnt allow users to quickly create their own reports as they would in ms access thanks ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337936 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looking for the right SMTP server
There's this: http://code.google.com/p/subetha/ I've used bits of that project for doing mail stuff. Very configurable/extendable. :Den -- Convictions are more dangerous foes of truth than lies. Friedrich Nietzsche On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:18 AM, wrote: SendGrid is a third part smtp host. Thanks, but I'm not looking for a hosted service, but for a true server software. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337647 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Working with a webservice. Help.
So I'm guessing a lot of your application relies on the XML, which makes using the objects returned from the invoke not an appealing option? There must be some way at getting at the XML, but I don't know how. Maybe a tool like this: http://www.soapui.org would help troubleshoot? Not sure why a http request won't work but a soap request will. Maybe a header of some sort? You could use a network sniffing tool and see what's going on, maybe. :Den -- Although the most acute judges of the witches and even the witches themselves, were convinced of the guilt of witchery, the guilt nevertheless was non-existent. It is thus with all guilt. Friedrich Nietzsche On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Michael Grant wrote: Same post, different title. Up until recently I hit this webservice with a simple CFHTTP and the webservice would return XML. For some reason now when I hit it with CFHTTP I get a Connection Failure message in the file content. So i thought I'd switch to use CFINVOKE instead. However I don't seem to know how to get to the actual XML anymore. When I hit the web service it seems to return an object and I'm at a loss as to how to get the xml I used to get. Any help would be great. There's a full description with example code and example response here: *http://www.cheappremiumtickets.com/test3.cfm* ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337535 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfinsert/cfupdate
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Michael Grant wrote: +1 I feel exactly the same way and still write my SQL statements myself. IMO it's necessary when you start getting into multiple advanced joins, computed columns and inline equations. This is actually where ORM shines. You can do *crazy awesome* stuff with Hibernate. You can model your model in a variety of ways, that can make things really easy from a programming perspective. It's like learning a new language tho, and a lot of it can still end up being DB specific, so... eh. I bet very few people are using HBM files, where a lot of the magic happens. :Den -- Through shallow intellect, the mind becomes shallow, and one eats the fly, along with the sweets. Guru Nanak ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337409 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: RTF generation by a scheduled task
RTF files are plain text, so you can create them pretty easily. If your attempts haven't worked so far, you're doing something wrong. :) Back in the day, I would create an RTF template, and go from there. Try creating an RTF that looks like how you want it, and put placeholders in the spots you want to insert dynamic content. Nowadays, I just use JasperReports, and export in RTF using cfjasperreport (a tag I wrote for generating jasperreport reports from CF). JasperReports is WICKED COOL for doing reports. Beats the pants off of ReportBuilder, etc.. Cross platform y todo. :Den -- A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. Friedrich Nietzsche On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Thomas Harper wrote: We're trying with CF9 on Windows Server 2008 to generate RTF files with font information. So far, the approaches we've seen depend on going through a browser to a user's desktop. What we need it to do is be able to generate the RTF file via a scheduled task that will be run every 5 minutes or so onto the server so that it gets put into a print queue. We've tried writing a straight text file with RTF font code but as it gets sent to the print queue the code just comes across as plain text. Is there a way to do make an RTF file without the browser? Thank you. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337419 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Removing new line from CSV?
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Rick Root wrote:
Unfortunately, using your code (except using createObject instead of
javaloader, as I have the library in CF's classpath), I get the same
error.
Here's a function that uses opencsv http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/ 2.1,
another CSV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma-separated_values parsing
deal (looks like there's a newer version, too!). Works fer me on Railo.
Nasty CSV file in, clean CSV file out.
Don't get me started on poorly
formattedhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_characterCSV files.
cffunction name=cleanCsvFile output=false
cfargument name=csvFileIn required=true /
cfargument name=csvFileOut required=true /
cfargument name=separator default= /
cfargument name=quotechar default= /
cfargument name=escapechar default= /
cfargument name=lineseparator default= /
cfscript
var fileReader =
createObject(java,java.io.FileReader).init(arguments.csvFileIn);
var reader =
createObject(java,au.com.bytecode.opencsv.CSVReader);
var myEntries = ;
var fileWriter =
createObject(java,java.io.FileWriter).init(arguments.csvFileOut);
var writer =
createObject(java,au.com.bytecode.opencsv.CSVWriter);
var csvstr =
if(separator eq ) {
separator = writer.DEFAULT_SEPARATOR;
}
if(quotechar eq ) {
quotechar = writer.DEFAULT_QUOTE_CHARACTER;
}
if(escapechar eq ) {
escapechar = writer.DEFAULT_ESCAPE_CHARACTER;
}
if(lineseparator eq ) {
lineseparator = writer.DEFAULT_LINE_END;
}
writer.init(fileWriter,
javacast(char,separator),javacast(char,quotechar),javacast(char,escapechar),
lineseparator);
if(quotechar NEQ ) {
reader =
reader.init(fileReader,javacast(char,separator),javacast(char,quotechar),true);
} else {
reader = reader.init(fileReader,javacast(char,separator));
}
myEntries = reader.readAll();
writer.writeAll(myEntries);
writer.flush();
fileReader.close();
fileWriter.close();
reader.close();
writer.close();
/cfscript
cfreturn true /
/cffunction
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Re: Vmware and CF 8+
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Brook Davies wrote: ... The only way that this makes any sense to me is if I can segment this machine into 2 or more vmware servers (for CF). I have zero experience and only a passing knowledge of vmware. Would it make sense to do this? Can any one offer their opinions and/or point me in the right direction? I've been digging on Xen lately. Before that I was using ESXi. You can turn that machine into like, 4 to 8 VMs, easy, depending on how much ram and processors you want to give each. VMs freaking roxor. :Den -- In the infancy of societies, the chiefs of state shape its institutions; later the institutions shape the chiefs of state. Charles de Montesquieu ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337141 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Preserve HTML format when inserting into HTML
When verifying the dumped text throughout the process, you're looking at the view source version, and not the one that's rendered by the browser, right? :Den -- The soul which has no fixed purpose in life is lost; to be everywhere, is to be nowhere. Michel de Montaigne On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Jake Munson wrote: As far as I know, CF will not encode HTML unless you tell it to. Are you 100% sure you aren't using htmlEditFormat on the data? I have traced the XML value from start to end, and it appears that the place where the HTML is being converted is when I write the XML to disk. I am dumping the XML to the page all throughout the process, and it looks correct all the way until I write it to the file. Before the file write the XML has the plain HTML, but once written to the file the HTML is converted to entity characters. To write the XML to file I am using cffile and then for the output I use toString() on the xml object. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336860 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: manipulating Excel files
There's JExcelAPI, too. It's API is pretty straightforward. http://jexcelapi.sourceforge.net/ I've got a custom tag for it... only tested on Railo recently though... :Den -- Make your educational laws strict and your criminal ones can be gentle; but if you leave youth its liberty you will have to dig dungeons for ages. Michel de Montaigne On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Tony Bentley wrote: I started to write the code answer but I'm afraid I didn't have time today. The short answer is that POI is probably the only option since there aren't really any other options within Java and your binary conversion method failed. To get the process going, I suggest reading your file in as a query object (using either Ben's POI utility or CF9). Then loop through the rows, columns. Mark each instance and store those coordinates (x,y). After looping through the sheets, columns and rows, use a method that sets the value for each occurrence. Then rewrite your file and you're finished. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336656 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Licensing on CKEditor - included?
CKEditor is open source (or dual-tri licensed or some such, for folks that need support). You're going after the file manager plugin that isn't open source, aren't you? =-) :Den -- A wise man sees as much as he ought, not as much as he can. Michel de Montaigne On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Mike Kear wrote: Is this true? - we can replace the existing FCKEditor in our ColdFusion with the updates to CKEditor because it's already licensed to Adobe as part of ColdFusion? (And therefore since we've paid for a licence for ColdFusion that in turn has paid Fred for a licence for CKEditor). True or not? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336426 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Anyone experienced with urlrewrite by Tuckey - question about rule that fails
Yo! No specific answer, and you might already have tried this; something that has helped me a great deal when working out rewrites is to enable logging. This goes for mod_rewrite or URLRewriteFilter. For URLRewriteFilter, here are some instructions for adding the debugging/reload settings: http://wiki.getrailo.org/wiki/Installation:URLRewriteFilter Dunno if that will really help or not. Another thing to mention, and I don't know if this helps or not either, but sometimes the ampersand can mess you up. I notice that in the first rule you escape the , and in the second one you don't- tho I think the filter would throw an error if it was having trouble with it, so... *shrug* just something to keep an eye on maybe. :Den -- mathematical knowledge indubitable. Portraits from Memory On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Gerald Weir wrote: Hello, I'm having a problem with a rule. We just updated the framework of our ColdFusion website. We've been using urlrewrite with CF and IIS for several years . ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion 9 Tag info for CFEclipse
The dictionary file needs more updating! I noticed a couple of these recently. There's a few tags missing argumentCollection (or is that attributeCollection? Bah.) too. I'll updated what I remember, and push another preview build out Real Soon Now. :Den -- Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house. Heinlein, Robert A. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: I have that, but i keep getting errors listed for the cfimage tag and the tag looks syntactically correct. Any ideas why? Eric ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: getting path of not existent directory
In the rewriting guide, one way would be a variation on the Redirect Failing URLs To Other Webserver example. :Den -- When I am violently beset with temptations, or cannot rid myself of evil thoughts, [I resolve] to do some Arithmetic, or Geometry, or some other study, which necessarily engages all my thoughts, and unavoidably keeps them from wandering. Edwards, Jonathon On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Matthew P. Smith wrote: Any way you could provide an example? I am looking here but did not see how to do what you stated. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/rewriteguide.html ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336207 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Millions of Coldfusion sites need to apply patches
ISAPI rewrite (1st one) http://www.robgonda.com/blog/files/robGonda/UserFiles/File/bprucell.2005.11.03.txt This has lots of good stuff: http://foundeo.com/security/presentations/hardening-coldfusion.pdf Hardening servers is a blast! Everyone should do it. :Den -- Six is a number perfect in itself, and not because God created the world in six days; rather the contrary is true. God created the world in six days because this number is perfect, and it would remain perfect, even if the work of the six days did not exist. St. Augustine ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336209 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Syntax checking generated code: CF9
Anytime! That's a worthy goal. I got a good ~ three thousand words of documentation for my automated build tool cfdistro done over the weekend. Sadly, I was stupid, and then, Something Bad happened, so it's gone with the wind. Someday... =) :Den -- We can never be sure that the opinion we are endeavouring to stifle is a false opinion; and even if we were sure, stifling it would be an evil still. John Stuart Mill On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:34 AM, Dominic Watson wrote: Perfect, thanks Den. Yeah, looking at this as a part of an automated deployment whole. Had googled for quite a while, just missing the keywords ;) Thanks again, Dominic On 9 August 2010 18:55, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, should have included the link the first time: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Admin/WSc3ff6d0ea77859461172e0811cbf364104-7fd0.html The cfcompile utility shouldn't execute your code, just compile it. Theoretically throwing errors on bad syntax. :) You could also create an Ant script for it. Google knows... :Den -- The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Dominic Watson wrote: Thanks guys. Certainly, compiling the code and checking for errors would be the ideal - just need to make sure the code does not execute. Any ideas about an explicit way to do that? I've thought of a hack, roughly: ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336168 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Syntax checking generated code: CF9
Sorry, should have included the link the first time: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Admin/WSc3ff6d0ea77859461172e0811cbf364104-7fd0.html The cfcompile utility shouldn't execute your code, just compile it. Theoretically throwing errors on bad syntax. :) You could also create an Ant script for it. Google knows... :Den -- The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 4:08 AM, Dominic Watson wrote: Thanks guys. Certainly, compiling the code and checking for errors would be the ideal - just need to make sure the code does not execute. Any ideas about an explicit way to do that? I've thought of a hack, roughly: ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336127 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Forums using CFCs?
CFDs nuts! =-) On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Matt Quackenbush wrote: CFDs are hot, but not as hot as CFDDDs. :-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336144 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Syntax checking generated code: CF9
If I'm understanding right, you could compile the code and it should throw an error if there's a validation problem. But I might not be understanding correctly. :Den -- Of two pleasures, if there be one which all or almost all who have experience of both give a decided preference, irrespective of any feeling of moral obligation to prefer it, that is the more desirable pleasure. John Stuart Mill ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:336086 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) Eclipse hangs on startup.
A few things to try: 1) Close all open projects (right-click on a project and select 'close') and restart. See if that makes it start fast. 2) Check the network settings. A long wait time might mean it's trying to do something networky, and it's waiting for a response. Like, for the help system, it starts a little local webserver, and maybe there's a firewall issue or something. 3) Check the log, and see what it's doing when starting up. I think you can even turn on more verbose logging of startup stuff, but google will know for sure. And, that's about all I got. As for CFEclipse, there should be a new release at the next full moon, I think. Pretty soon. If you'd like to help test the preview release, which should be working on Helios, the preview update site is: http://cfeclipse.org/update-preview Feel free to take it for a test drive and please let us know (on the cfeclipse mailing list, preferably, tho wherever is clever, really) if you run into any show-stopper type stuff. Blessed be! :Denny -- Judaism boasts of no exclusive revelation of eternal truths that are indispensable to salvation, of no revealed religion in the sense in which that term is usually understood. Moses Mendelssohn On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Eric Cobb wrote: Over the last couple of weeks I've noticed that my Eclipse seems to take a really long time to start up. It always hangs at the splash screen forever, then finally it starts loading. Once the loading bar appears, it only takes about 15-20 seconds to load. This morning I timed it and it stayed on the startup screen for almost 7 minutes before it started loading. Once it finally opens up, I can close it an reopen it and it takes less than a minute. But, that initial startup after I log in, reboot, etc.., always hangs at the splash screen for 4-7 minutes. I'm using Eclipse 3.5.2, 64 bit, on Windows 7 Professional 64 bit with 4GB of RAM. In an effort to fix the problem, I installed Java version 6, update 21. It just came out last week and is supposed to have some bug fixes aimed specifically at Eclipse. That didn't help anything. I also have Eclipse 3.5.2, 32 bit, on this machine and it takes just as long to start up. Just to see, I set up a fresh blank install of 3.5.2, 64 bit, and it came up with no problems. I've searched the interwebs trying to find a way to tweak my eclipse.ini settings, and so far I haven't been able to find anything that fixes this. I've even restored the eclipse.ini file back to the original and it's still slow. At first I thought it may be a plugin that was causing this, so I uninstalled all unnecessary plugins, but that didn't fix it. I even made sure that my 32 bit and 64 bit didn't have the same plugins installed, and they don't. The only core features they have installed in common are: -Eclipse Data Tools Platform -Eclipse Mylyn -Eclipse Modeling Project So, I'm guess that one of these is the culprit. I'm really not sure, though. Does anyone know if there is any way to tell what's causing Eclipse to hang at the splash screen for so long? Some way to get a behind the scenes look at what's going on? -- Thanks, Eric Cobb ECAR Technologies, LLC http://www.ecartech.com http://www.cfgears.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335941 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Regex Help
This is neither here nor there, but the URLRewriteFilter can go on the actual application server, thus negating the need for IIS or Apache intervention, and as an added bonus, can do outbound rules as well. This means that you don't need to change your internal links from: index.cfm?somevar=woohoo, and instead can do this: getPageContext().getResponse().encode(index.cfm?somevar=woohoo) and have the HTML href that is returned to the client look like this: /somevar/woohoo (and obviously have incoming /somevar/woohoo requests translated to index.cfm?somevar=woohoo). You still have to wrap stuff with the encode() deal, so it's not super-cool if you've got a lot of links various places, but it's probably a pretty fast way to go pretty URL style without having to do much more than wrap your links with encode(). Just food for thought. I'm really liking it, and it doesn't add much overhead. I know this probably doesn't make much sense, but I can elaborate if anyone is actually interested. :) :Den -- There is a specter haunting Europe, the specter of Communism. Karl Marx On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Robert Harrison wrote: Why not use url rewrite instead? If it's this: http://learn.iis.net/page.aspx/460/using-the-url-rewrite-module/ that looks good but it also requires server IIS intervention. That does not solve the problem on all my sites and all the servers they are running on. Building them into my own CMS permanently solves the problem and keeps my tools portable for various server environments. In the long run it's I'm thinking it's probably best to make my CMS tools just work that way so I'm not thwarted by an uncooperative host. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335772 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: jFileUpload - putting binary file fragments together (was: State of cffileupload)
Random-ness-ish-ness: You could potentially toss in the Apache FileUpload project. I was talking with someone about this over the weekend. It looks like you could just stick the needed code in a CFML page, CFML-ized from Java, and post the upload form to that CFML page and let it handle the upload. I suggested using the servlet approach-- you'd post your form to /uploads and then have CF check the uploads directory for file completion, or hack up the servlet to ping a CFM page when the state of the upload changes. Theoretically, you could test the basic premise out pretty easy by just using a JSP example of FileUpload, as CF can run JSP pages without much fuss, IIRC. It appears that Railo uses FileUpload under the hood, I haven't checked but I think Adobe uses something else. Could be wrong tho. http://commons.apache.org/fileupload/ Here's an example JSP that might get you going (using the servlet is probably easiest tho): http://www.developershome.com/wap/wapUpload/wap_upload.asp?page=jsp3 It looks like the FileUpload library can tell you how much has been uploaded, as it's uploading, potentially allowing for an accurate progress bar, too! Just a thought. :Den -- We should not say that one man's hour is worth another man's hour, but rather that one man during an hour is worth just as much as another man during an hour. Time is everything, man is nothing: he is at the most time's carcass. Karl Marx On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Thomas Harper wrote: Well, the issue I was having with cffileupload is now considered a bug (83447) and while we're waiting for our platinum plan (if going that route will even work), I'm checking out jFileUpload. What it does is split larger files into chunks of a size designated by an attribute. In my case, I'm splitting it into 256 MB apiece. Uploading is taken care of by a .cfm they provide, but it doesn't put split-up files back together. Using cffile with append would only work on text files. How would ColdFusion put the file together? These files will be really big binaries of about 4 to 5 GB. Thank you. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335773 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Thread is a thread is a thread?
Just curious. I'm sure Google could tell me, but what the heck: Does the kind of thread matter? Like, the reason I suggested using a separate servlet for doing the FileUpload, was that I was thinking that a separate FileUpload servlet thread would not take up a CFML engine servlet thread. Be easier to manage, provide some isolation, etc.. But I don't really know. Would that make a difference? Would that really be any better than just CFML-izing the java and running it in the CFML engine? I think yes, but I'm curious as to the real answer. Not /very/ curious tho, obviously. :Den -- While the miser is merely a capitalist gone mad, the capitalist is a rational miser. Karl Marx ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335774 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer part of the OpenCFML committee
There doesn't need to be a big ceremonious board, but there does need to be an official language spec, IMHO. randomness Maybe the cfdictionary project could be fleshed out... we could have a nice list of what works like what with what... a single point of reference type of deal... Eh. It's a personal goal at least, but I have oodles of those. :) :Den -- Grief is only the memory of widowed affections. James Martineau On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Adam Haskell wrote: I don't think it is that disappointing honestly. I do think we need to continue, as engine developers, to have a dialogue with each other.There doesn't need to be this ceremonious board to do it. We have a discussion group for conventional wisdom and things that need vetted could go there. We also have phones and email where we can collaborate, it is on the engine developers to be nice and courteous. If we're thinking about adding a tag or a feature we need to step up and reach out to the other engine makers and talk to them and get some feedback. That's easy for me to say being in the completely open source camp (even for us we could improve on this though) I understand if Adobe is working on something they don't want to get out too far they'd rather not talk to other engines. If an engine is looking at adding cfjavascript but not going to follow the conventional syntax OpenBD established a little phone call is a good idea. Same thing when OpenBD looks to implement CF9 features we should be following what has been set forth. Adam ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335660 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer part of the OpenCFML committee
Er, cfmldictionary? ;-) :den -- Religion is no more possible without prayer than poetry without language, or music without atmosphere. James Martineau On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:39 PM, denstar wrote: There doesn't need to be a big ceremonious board, but there does need to be an official language spec, IMHO. randomness Maybe the cfdictionary project could be fleshed out... we could have a nice list of what works like what with what... a single point of reference type of deal... Eh. It's a personal goal at least, but I have oodles of those. :) :D ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335661 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer part of the OpenCFML committee
http://github.com/denuno/cfml.dictionary It's just a java project right now, but the plan is to leverage it to power a CFML application similar to quickdocs, etc., but with different engines in mind, blah blah blah. CFEclipse was the motivation for this... I'm in the process of switching the way dictionaries are handled to a more flexible and collaborative type of deal. Pull updates from a URL, add/update/share dictionaries easily, etc.. It's a shame that a squatter appears to hold cfml dot org, it would be really nifty to have dictionaries.cfml.org, etc.. The CFML application/website is a bit of a pipe dream at this point, but I'm actively working on the actual java library for interacting with CFML dictionaries, which is more pressing for me ATM. I really need to just bite the bullet and get a VPS somewhere, otherwise the CFML applications will continue to be dreams. Maybe I'll try cfmldeveloper.com for now. :) Yes, I can do it all-- I'm special like that. HOOAH! =)p Should be done by about 2018. :Den -- A specter is haunting Europe - the specter of communism. Karl Marx On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Maureen wrote: Link? On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:40 PM, denstar wrote: Er, cfmldictionary? ; ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335664 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe no longer part of the OpenCFML committee
Oh yeah, and it will allow editing of tags online. That part will probably come before anything else, and materialize pretty soon, as I'm s tired of wanking with the dictionaries by hand, so to speak. Yeah, I know last sentence sounds funny if you're across the pond. Byte me. :) -- Anyone who knows anything of history knows that great social changes are impossible without feminine upheaval. Social progress can be measured exactly by the social position of the fair sex, the ugly ones included. Karl Marx On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 2:46 PM, denstar valliants...@gmail.com wrote: http://github.com/denuno/cfml.dictionary It's just a java project right now, but the plan is to leverage it to power a CFML application similar to quickdocs, etc., but with different engines in mind, blah blah blah. CFEclipse was the motivation for this... I'm in the process of switching the way dictionaries are handled to a more flexible and collaborative type of deal. Pull updates from a URL, add/update/share dictionaries easily, etc.. It's a shame that a squatter appears to hold cfml dot org, it would be really nifty to have dictionaries.cfml.org, etc.. The CFML application/website is a bit of a pipe dream at this point, but I'm actively working on the actual java library for interacting with CFML dictionaries, which is more pressing for me ATM. I really need to just bite the bullet and get a VPS somewhere, otherwise the CFML applications will continue to be dreams. Maybe I'll try cfmldeveloper.com for now. :) Yes, I can do it all-- I'm special like that. HOOAH! =)p Should be done by about 2018. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335665 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFTEXTAREA onClick
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Bryan Stevenson wrote:
...
Is there an equivalent to onFocus? Where are these options documented?
http://docs.cksource.com/FCKeditor_2.x/Developers_Guide/JavaScript_API
There is an OnFocus!
Personally, I'd switch to a ckeditor tag (I have one if you don't, but
it's literally two lines of code IIRC). Then I'd use all the *new*
plugins and whatnot. It's really easier to work with.
If you're married to cftextarea, then I'd take a look at the old
plugins for FCK 2.x, as well as the source (I love source. I can read
it better than documentation most of the time).
There were plugins for doing just what you want to do, IIRC.
FitWindow springs to mind, but I think there were others... anyways,
those plugins would show you exactly how to do this stuff, I reckon.
There's a built in way to get to the iframe too, I think... maybe this does it?
FCKeditorAPI.GetInstance('InstanceName').EditorWindow.parent
Force be with you!
:Den
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possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to
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Re: bind a method to all remotely accessed methods in a cfc
I'm not 100% sure what you're after, but perhaps ColdSpring's remote facade generation stuff would fit the bill? :Den -- Even he, to whom most things that most people would think were pretty smart were pretty dumb, thought it was pretty smart. Douglas Adams On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Tony Bentley wrote: Is it possible to bind a private or package method to any method with remote access within a cfc? I want run checks on each request to lock down security but not on the application level. I want to automate this procedure instead of having to place the call inside of each method. I would use reflection in Java. Any thoughts? Example: cffunction name=checkSomething access=remote returnFormat=JSON when this is called bind checkForRemoteness() /cffunction cffunction name=checkIfRemoteOrPublic access=private cfif logic cfabort /cfif /cffunction ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335588 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) changing the default for loading actionscript files in cfeclipse/eclipse
Eclipse has file associations: Prefs | General Editors File Associations :den -- In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. Douglas Adams On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Won Lee wrote: On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:42 PM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) wrote: Ok... But why should I have to do that? The default OS Application for .cfm files is Dreamweaver, but when I open CFE and double click a .cfm file it opens in CFE. Besides, in some companies, changing defaults like that are locked down. Thanks for the idea though, I might do that as a last resort. (where is my admin's phone number) I agree with you; I don't think one should be forced to change file association at the OS level. It was the only thing I could think of while my CFBuilder was down. W ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335475 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Virtual Directories and cfinclude
The virtual directory will take care of the .css and image files, but you'll need to add a mapping for the CFML to work, I think. :Den -- In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri. Douglas Adams On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: Recently, I've been trying to modularize all code needed for a particular function with a directory that exists outside the root directory of a website. I have some functionality that is common to many websites and need to reference the files on if a site uses said functionality. For instance, I have a real estate website that uses a subdivision function. Not all do, but this one does. I decided to move the subdivision folder outside the root of all the websites that might use it and put it under its own directory in the webroot. I can create a virtual directory in IIS easily enough to reference files within the subdivision folder. However, if I try to reference files within the main websites structure from within the subdivision folder under the webroot using cfinclude, I can't. At least not using relative links, as far as I can tell. I want to keep all content, .cfm's, .cfc's, .css files etc., outside of the main website folder structure so that if that function (subdivisions, in this case) is not used, then none of the files and assets need be part of the website's directory structure and content. Make any sense? In the end, it amounts to wanting to have a way for referencing cfincludes, such as menu structure file, from within the folder structure of the external directory subdivisions as I can reference files from within subdivisions folder by using a virtual directory in IIS. Maybe I'm missing something very obvious. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks, Rick ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335477 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) changing the default for loading actionscript files in cfeclipse/eclipse
It's all in a day's work, good cf citizen. =) :Den -- It is no coincidence that in no known language does the phrase 'As pretty as an Airport' appear. Douglas Adams On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:19 PM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT) wrote: Thank you VERY much! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335478 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFTEXTAREA onClick
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Bryan Stevenson wrote: ... That saidif anyone has a solution...I'm all ears! Use the hooks! I don't remember what they are offhand, but for the amount of times this comes up, you'd think it would be documented somewhere or that some random person would shout use the force-er-hooks!. Also, there are *tons* of nifty JS debugging utilities-- I use dojo and it has very nice object dumping-- use them to see what methods and whatnot are available on the thing you're trying to work with. I'm seriously wondering if I'm just tripping out or what-- does no one remember how to do this? Don't make me search the archives. ;) :Den -- You live and learn. At any rate, you live. Douglas Adams ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335500 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFTEXTAREA onClick
I think this will get you the underlying object:
ColdFusion.RichText.getEditorObject('your_textarea_id');
(I assume the equiv of: FCKeditorAPI.GetInstance('InstanceName') ;)
Then, check this out:
http://docs.cksource.com/FCKeditor_2.x/Developers_Guide/JavaScript_API
And I remember doing something like this, long ago:
***
function FCKeditor_OnComplete( editorInstance )
{
editorInstance.Events.AttachEvent( 'OnSelectionChange', DoSomething ) ;
}
var counter = 0 ;
function DoSomething( editorInstance )
{
// This is a sample function that shows in the title bar the number of times
// the OnSelectionChange event is called.
window.document.title = editorInstance.Name + ' : ' + ( ++counter ) ;
}
***
That OnComplete being a special FCK function.
The new CKEditor is way niftier. Looking at the old API brings back
memories. =)
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Re: CFTEXTAREA onClick
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Maureen wrote:
Den,
You totally rock. This solves a world of problems for me.
MM
WOOHOO!
Here's a complete, working example:
cfsavecontent variable=hook
script
function doIt() {
alert( Say cheese! ) ;
}
function FCKeditor_OnComplete( editorInstance )
{
editorInstance.Events.AttachEvent( 'OnSelectionChange', doIt ) ;
}
/script
/cfsavecontent
cfhtmlhead text=#hook# /
html
body
cfform
cftextarea name=fun id=fun onclick=javascript:alert('wee')
richtext=truetry me/cftextarea
/cfform
/body/htm
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deaddocs (was Re: CFTEXTAREA onClick)
Now this is lame: I went to livedocs to add the richtext binding magic for cf8, and they've cut off comments for this version of the product. That right there violates all that I thought was cool with livedocs. Guess anything below 9 is really deaddocs. Hey, I like that. I'm going to create a live cfml documentation site like cfquickdocs but call it cfdeaddocs. Pretty catchy, neh? :cfdeadden -- The last time anybody made a list of the top hundred character attributes of New Yorkers, common sense snuck in at number 79. Douglas Adams, Mostly Harmless ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335507 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: mod_rewrite question: redirecting to www.domain.com from domain.com with dynamic domain names
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Jeff Gladnick wrote:
Unfortunately, that didn't quite work :(
Any other suggestions?
Maybe something like this (untested):
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.[a-z-]+\.[a-z]{2,6} [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ([a-z-]+\.[a-z]{2,6})$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^/(.*)$ http://www\.%1/$1 [R=301,L]
Got the idea from here:
http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/mod_rewrite-tips-and-tricks.html#require-www-no-hardcoding
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Re: Validating an XML document to a schema using ColdFusion
This worked on railo: cfsavecontent variable=xs?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1? xs:schema xmlns:xs=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; xs:element name=pur xs:complexType xs:sequence xs:element name=File type=xs:string minOccurs=1 maxOccurs=1/ xs:element name=Data type=xs:string minOccurs=1 maxOccurs=1/ /xs:sequence /xs:complexType /xs:element /xs:schema/cfsavecontent cfsavecontent variable=xm?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1? pur Filefoo/File Databar/Data /pur/cfsavecontent cfdump var=#xmlValidate(xmlParse(xm),xs)# cfabort Note how I referred to the schema (it's the actual string content). :Den -- But a science is exact to the extent that its method measures up to and is adequate to its object. Gabriel Marcel On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: Small sample files that produce the error. XML Schema |?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1? xs:schema xmlns:xs=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; xs:element name=pur xs:complexType xs:sequence xs:element name=File type=xs:string minOccurs=1 maxOccurs=1/ xs:element name=Data type=xs:string minOccurs=1 maxOccurs=1/ /xs:sequence /xs:complexType /xs:element /xs:schema | XML Test FIle |?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1? pur Filefoo/File Databar/Data /pur | These file, and the large files I provided previously will validate correctly according to this tool. http://tools.decisionsoft.com/schemaValidate/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335277 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looking for a CF Recipe script!
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Won Lee wrote: On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 9:57 PM, denstar wrote: So /that's/ why my ascii art is all mangled! ;] , - \O , .-.___ - /\ O/ /xx\XXX\ - __/\ ` /\ |xx|XXX| ` \, () ` |xx|XXX| jgs`^^^ NSFW! LOL! @Keven -- Awesome take on it. I'm there dude. =) @Roger -- It's so good, we played it at our wedding (barefoot up in the mountains). T'was Perfecto! Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. If there really is such a thing. =) :Den -- As our bodies live upon the earth and find sustenance in the fruits which it produces, so our minds feed on the same truths as the ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335215 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looking for a CF Recipe script!
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:21 PM, denstar wrote: @Keven -- Awesome take on it. I'm there dude. =) Er- Kevin, even. :) :Denny -- Do not fear lest you should meditate too much upon Him and speak of Him in an unworthy way, providing you are led by faith. Do not fear lest you should entertain false opinions of Him so long as they are in conformity with the notion of the infinitely perfect Being. Nicolas Malebranc ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335216 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looking for a CF Recipe script!
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Dave Watts wrote: Yeah, that may be the explanation, but IMO it's still dumb to do arrays that way. Nobody calls their thumb their zeroth finger. Computers are different from hands, programming languages are different from natural languages, computers don't understand base-10 math. It's all just been in preparation for the day when computers program computers. We're almost there, too. Scary awesome. :Denny -- The same is the case with those opinions of man to which he has been accustomed from his youth; he likes them, defends them, and shuns the opposite views. Maimonide ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looking for a CF Recipe script!
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Dave Watts wrote: ... This is basically the argument for COBOL, and look how that turned out. If you want to be a competent programmer, right now, you need to understand pretty well how computers work. That may not be the case in the future, but it is right now. CF hides a lot of the complexity of computers, but it can't hide all of the complexity. This is why, in my opinion, many CF programmers who don't have this deeper understanding write programs that fail as their scope, complexity or usage grow significantly. How did it turn out? It's not clear, but are you dissing COBOL? More of a FORTRAN guy, eh? ;-) :Den -- The whole object of the Prophets and the Sages was to declare that a limit is set to human reason where it must halt. Maimonides ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335195 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looking for a CF Recipe script!
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Michael Grant wrote: I for one think CF should have stuck to zero based indices. I've thought for close to 10 years that it would be AWESOME if this could be a CFAdmin setting. It's never really bothered me much, and I do a lot a java/cfml stuphs. What's really crazy is people doing if(len(string)) vs if(string != ). Or something like that, IIRC. =)p :Den -- To the totality of purposes of the perfect Law there belong the abandonment, depreciation, and restraint of desires in so far as possible. Maimonides ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335197 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looking for a CF Recipe script!
So /that's/ why my ascii art is all mangled! ;] , - \O , .-.___ - /\ O/ /xx\XXX\ - __/\ ` /\ |xx|XXX| `\, () ` |xx|XXX| jgs`^^^ On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Michael Grant wrote: I would want to do len(trim(string)) gt 0 or trim(string) != since technically fulfills your if condition though remains undesirable. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looking for a CF Recipe script!
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Dave Watts wrote: I would want to do len(trim(string)) gt 0 or trim(string) != since technically fulfills your if condition though remains undesirable. I think his point is that CF, unlike some other languages, supports implicit Boolean evaluation. Some people really don't like it. Oh, you know I'm too well rounded to have a point. =) Really I was reminiscing about a conversation we had long ago, more than contributing anything real to the conversation. Programming is teh awesome. :Den -- While one man can discover a certain thing by himself, another is never able to understand it, even if taught by means of all possible expressions and metaphors, and during a long period; his mind can in no way grasp it, his capacity is insufficient for it. Maimonides ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335202 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Looking for a CF Recipe script!
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Michael Grant wrote: I see. My bad. To be fair I find Denny hard to follow at the best of times. :D A snippet from a favorite song: If my words did glow with the gold of sunshine And my tunes were played on the harp unstrung Would you hear my voice come through the music Would you hold it near as it were your own? It's a hand-me-down, the thoughts are broken Perhaps they're better left unsung I don't know, don't really care Let there be songs to fill the air Not that it really helps you, but it all makes sense from in here. :-) :DeN -- You must accept the truth from whatever source it comes. Maimonides ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335203 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ByteArray objects
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Brad Wood wrote: If you want to be able to visually represent something that is a little cumbersome to display, why don't you try hashing it? That may help comparing them as well. +1 for hash()! If it's binary data you'd just get gobbledygook when converting it to a string anyways, with a hash you should be golden either way. :Den -- The only fence against the world is a thorough knowledge of it. John Lock ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335023 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Regex Lin Break Oddness
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: ... Other then just breaking down and working this in IE does anybody have any other thoughs on what is going on here? Assuming I haven't totally misunderstood what's going on: You could drop to java and an XML lib that respects whitespace. It's a common problem, I think. Some people use Jericho (a tag parsing lib) for XML because it respects whitespace some XML parsers don't, if I'm remembering the comments right. I wouldn't recommend that one specifically, as it doesn't do XSLT transforms. :) It would probably be best if you used a java lib that isn't included with other stuff, as those XML libs can be mad conflicting. That's all I can think of, maybe there's some simple way to use built in stuff tho. Replace the new chunk with the old chunk after the transform by hand? Etc. :den -- The reason why men enter into society is the preservation of their property. John Lock ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335024 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ByteArray objects
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: Is there a way to convert a java bytearray into something human readable? Everything I've tried has thrown a ByteArray objects cannot be converted to strings error. yourByteArray.toString() maybe? Depends if it's binary data or not, I think. If you can provide more info, I'm sure I can help. I do all kinds of stuff like this in the various projects I work on. :Den -- When a man fails to see the truth of certain generally accepted views, there is no law compelling him to provoke animosity by announcing his dissent. George Henry Lewes ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335006 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
