[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Rae Buerckner
Lol... Scott you shouldn't give me an invitation like that, I've been known to bite more than one boy ;) And I don't mind squishies (MS), Finula Crowe was a guest aboard the Indigo boat before the games began at WeDU :) Absolutely no hard feelings, it's difficult to get context across via email,

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Scott Barnes
hehe thanks for the kind words Mike. It doesn't bother me as I've learnt early in the piece "Where there is smoke, there better be fire and if there isn't fire, I'll light one". It's actually amazing to watch the cultures collide between Adobe and Microsoft. If you're a Microsoftee its like you're

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Mike Kear
Rae, I think you ought to lighten up on Scott- he's an ally of the ColdFusion world.He's forgotten more about CF than many of us will ever know, and has made a very significant contribution to the CF community in Australia. His MossyBlog was almost comulsory reading before he joined the Evil

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Rae Buerckner
Correction Duane Nicholl, must make sure I'm awake before applying fingers to keyboard ;) On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Rae Buerckner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Point is Scott this is a CF list, it is not a .NET list, or any other > language for that matter. It would be more appropriate if

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Rae Buerckner
Point is Scott this is a CF list, it is not a .NET list, or any other language for that matter. It would be more appropriate if you started your own list if you want to push or discuss .NET or any other language. If this conversation were going on on the LiveCycle list, you would have received a

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Scott Barnes
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Rae Buerckner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > :) good to see that you still respect something that does indeed command > respect. I've been using CF since its birth, don't go there :) I know its weaknesses and strengths just like other CF Vetrans ;) I use it's stil

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Scott Barnes
Really? I'll pass that onto the SQL Team as feedback. Has anyone on the list not seen this tool? On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Because in all the times i've bitched to various people about Visual > Studio, not a single person has mentioned it until now

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Rae Buerckner
:) good to see that you still respect something that does indeed command respect. I've just had a big argument with an open source addicted friend of mine about CF8 and it's award winning respectability as middleware in an SOA environment. He wants to use PHP as middleware, even when I said I'd b

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Mike Kear
Because in all the times i've bitched to various people about Visual Studio, not a single person has mentioned it until now. And i'm talking about MS Support people and the people at Partner services. They should have known such a product existed. When we were told we had to lose EntMgr, we were

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Scott Barnes
To annoy you :) as i know deep down you dislike Microsoft and it just goes totally against you grain.. - That and I still write a lot of CF code for family/friends and old sites I still support. I work for the machine, but i still hold to certain technology from my past ;) On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Rae Buerckner
I imagine it would be! On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hehehe.. One of the guys on my team was on the Movie Maker team and he got > nervous about that link this week.. basically Bill's retired today so some > folks are digging up some left over articles

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Scott Barnes
hehehe.. One of the guys on my team was on the Movie Maker team and he got nervous about that link this week.. basically Bill's retired today so some folks are digging up some left over articles form the DOJ (2002) days to kind of add some colour to his last day. If you succeed or do the right job

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Rae Buerckner
Hi Scott, I have a question why are you on a CF list? Cheers, R On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why haven't you used *Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio Express?*it's > basically the Enterprise Manager redeux. > > > http://www.microsoft.com/downl

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Scott Barnes
Why haven't you used *Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio Express?* it's basically the Enterprise Manager redeux. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=C243A5AE-4BD1-4E3D-94B8-5A0F62BF7796&displaylang=en On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Rae Buerckner
Isn't that something along the lines of what Bill Gates said about his user experience with installing a piece of MS technology. http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/06/26/gates-memo-shows-user On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually I've

[cfaussie] Re: CFC Design Patterns

2008-06-28 Thread Mike Kear
Actually I've been stuck with VIsual Studio since SQLServer dropped Enterprise Manager and forced us to have VS. I think its the worst application on my machine. It's slow as a rainy Sunday to load, the documentaion is so appallingly written it's impossible to figure out how to do anything - i'