[cfaussie] Woo Hoo - WebDU 2007 ticket prices announced!

2006-12-06 Thread Barry Beattie
http://webdu.com.au/go/registration the early bird prices look particularly appealing be there or be cubic (ie: square all over) barry.b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post

[cfaussie] Re: Talking of evaluate()

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Mandel
function getScope(scopeName) { switch(arguments.scopeName) { case "application": return application; break; case "request": return request; break; //and on as required. } var scope = getScope("request"); return scope[key]; See - no

[cfaussie] Re: Why XHTML?

2006-12-06 Thread Scott Barnes
Good discussion though ;) Helps to resurrect the XHTML vs HTML argument every year or so and ol Mark has battled in these trenches many a time and has a lot to offer on the pro's and con's space :) (I think i still owe him a beer for one debate i lost in this arena).. On 12/7/06, Tom Kerr <[EMAI

[cfaussie] Re: Why XHTML?

2006-12-06 Thread Tom Kerr
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 01:59:33PM +1000, Scott Barnes wrote: > On 12/7/06, Tom Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 11:25:38AM +1000, Scott Barnes wrote: > > > On 12/6/06, Ryan Sabir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > How many of you are developing sites in XHTML these days

[cfaussie] Re: Why XHTML?

2006-12-06 Thread Tom Kerr
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 03:02:45PM +1100, Mark Stanton wrote: > > XHTML is better yet again because of the increased > > signal-to-noise ratio. > > Rubbish! > > One thing that often gets incorrectly assumed is: > > XHTML = clean semantic markup > HTML = lots of redundant nested tables & other c

[cfaussie] Talking of evaluate()

2006-12-06 Thread Kym Kovan
Hello, I just noticed the "evaluate is bad" vibe in an email and it reminded me that I was going to post first thing today asking a question about evaluate() (its been that sort of a day). I spent too large a chunk of last night and early this morning trying to get round using evaluate and fa

[cfaussie] Re: Melbourne CFUG Drinks

2006-12-06 Thread Barry Beattie
we could get a breezo going at the brisbane one and you melbournites can "virtually" join in gurranteed the RBT won't worry you with all those virtual drinks On 12/7/06, Haikal Saadh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bwahaha. > > If I could, I'd rather pay for myself to go to your neck of the

[cfaussie] Re: Melbourne CFUG Drinks

2006-12-06 Thread Haikal Saadh
Bwahaha. If I could, I'd rather pay for myself to go to your neck of the woods! (never been to melbourne) Mark Mandel wrote: > You paying for the flight? :D > > I'll be there. > > Mark > > On 12/7/06, Haikal Saadh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You should all come to the Brisbane one instea

[cfaussie] Re: json in js code

2006-12-06 Thread Blair McKenzie
True. But in the case of importing json strings into JS it is necessary. In fact eval could have been designed for json, if it weren't created well before :). If the myjson is just a JSON string you've outputed into a script tag, then that would work - the JSON will be evaluated with the reset of

[cfaussie] Re: Melbourne CFUG Drinks

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Mandel
You paying for the flight? :D I'll be there. Mark On 12/7/06, Haikal Saadh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You should all come to the Brisbane one instead :p > > Mark Mandel wrote: > > a different night? > > > > Mark > > > > On 12/7/06, Stephen Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Hi Steve,

[cfaussie] Re: Melbourne CFUG Drinks

2006-12-06 Thread Haikal Saadh
You should all come to the Brisbane one instead :p Mark Mandel wrote: > a different night? > > Mark > > On 12/7/06, Stephen Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi Steve, >> >> I have other xmas parties I have already committed to on those nights, so >> sorry I can not make it. >> Maybe next

[cfaussie] Re: Why XHTML?

2006-12-06 Thread Haikal Saadh
That's why macromedia recommends that all custom tags do a check for executionmode. (if thisTag.executiomode is "start")... Even had a handy cfeclipse snippet... (which seems to have disappeared now) Blair McKenzie wrote: > That can backfire for basic custom tags - put in a / at the end and >

[cfaussie] Re: Melbourne CFUG Drinks

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Mandel
a different night? Mark On 12/7/06, Stephen Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > I have other xmas parties I have already committed to on those nights, so > sorry I can not make it. > Maybe next time. > > Thanks anyway. > > Stephen Davey. > > > > -Original Message- > > From

[cfaussie] Re: Why XHTML?

2006-12-06 Thread Scott Barnes
True.. man.. there's no winning is there hehehe On 12/7/06, Blair McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That can backfire for basic custom tags - put in a / at the end and the > tag runs twice. > > Blair > > On 12/6/06, Scott Barnes < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I will say this though. > >

[cfaussie] Re: Why XHTML?

2006-12-06 Thread Blair McKenzie
That can backfire for basic custom tags - put in a / at the end and the tag runs twice. Blair On 12/6/06, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I will say this though. > > Spend some time coding within FLEX space and you can't but help close tags > as you're so used to being pounded by the

[cfaussie] Re: json in js code

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Ireland
A simple test like this does work: a href="" >Hi ThereI am told in js eval() is evil and its (ab)use is a cry for help. Just like evaluate() in cf. From:  "Mark Mandel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To:  cfaussie@googlegroups.comTo:  cfaussie@googlegroups.comSubject:  [cfaussie] Re: json in js cod

[cfaussie] Re: Melbourne CFUG Drinks

2006-12-06 Thread Stephen Davey
Hi Steve, I have other xmas parties I have already committed to on those nights, so sorry I can not make it. Maybe next time. Thanks anyway. Stephen Davey. > -Original Message- > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Steve Onnis > Sent: Thursday, 7 Dece

[cfaussie] Re: (shakes fist at) adobe.com

2006-12-06 Thread Scott Barnes
Aggressive young pup aren't you ;) hehe On 12/7/06, Ryan Sabir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > www.cfquickdocs.com > > "Nice" he thought as he started using it. > > "Grrr" he thought when the back button doesn't work. > > (shakes fist at) Web 2.0 > > Sorry, I'm in a ranting mood today. > > > >

[cfaussie] Re: Why XHTML?

2006-12-06 Thread Scott Barnes
I will say this though. Spend some time coding within FLEX space and you can't but help close tags as you're so used to being pounded by the compiler on "YOU DIDN"T CLOSE THAT TAG YOU DUMBO!"... type errors ;) I only noticed this before as I was typing, that i even now put the / on the end of CF

[cfaussie] Re: Melbourne CFUG Drinks

2006-12-06 Thread Steve Onnis
i guess it will just be me then? Come on guys...i'll even buy the first round --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To uns

[cfaussie] Re: json in js code

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Mandel
Oh okay... guess I wasn't be helpful then ;o) I'll go back to what I was doing :oD Mark On 12/7/06, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Mark, > > > > It depends on the data, but usually it is something like this if an label > value array? > > > > JSonData['Label'].value > > > > > >

[cfaussie] Re: (shakes fist at) adobe.com

2006-12-06 Thread Ryan Sabir
> www.cfquickdocs.com "Nice" he thought as he started using it. "Grrr" he thought when the back button doesn't work. (shakes fist at) Web 2.0 Sorry, I'm in a ranting mood today. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to t

[cfaussie] Re: json in js code

2006-12-06 Thread Blair McKenzie
There is nowhere near enough information in this post. I appreciate how fustrating dev can be, but if you want help you need to give us more detail. Blair On 12/6/06, Mark Ireland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can I use stuff from a json string like this? > > > var s = 'something'; > > for (var

[cfaussie] Re: json in js code

2006-12-06 Thread Andrew Scott
Mark, It depends on the data, but usually it is something like this if an label value array? JSonData['Label'].value Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mail

[cfaussie] Re: json in js code

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Mandel
I'm not totally up to speed on json, but doesn't it have to be eval() 'd ? Mark On 12/7/06, Mark Ireland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Can I use stuff from a json string like this? > > > var s = 'something'; > > for (var j in myjson.RECORDCOUNT) { > > var id = myjson.DATA.MYVARIABLE[j]; > >

[cfaussie] json in js code

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Ireland
Can I use stuff from a json string like this? var s = 'something'; for (var j in myjson.RECORDCOUNT) { var id = myjson.DATA.MYVARIABLE[j]; chk = document.getElementById(s + id); // chk = document.getElementById(s + id.toString()); } It dont work!Advertisement: Amazing holiday rentals? --~--~

[cfaussie] Re: Why XHTML?

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Stanton
> XHTML is better yet again because of the increased > signal-to-noise ratio. Rubbish! One thing that often gets incorrectly assumed is: XHTML = clean semantic markup HTML = lots of redundant nested tables & other crap By looking at the source of 100 random sites you might see this pattern eme

[cfaussie] Re: Why XHTML?

2006-12-06 Thread Scott Barnes
Agree and Disagree and can't quite seperate the two.. i'm lost for words and i'm sure its the first time to! ;) it comes back to the heart of it all, content is Search Engines lifeblood, without it, they die. Google would die of a horrible death tommorow if the "browser" was shot in the back of th

[cfaussie] Re: Why XHTML?

2006-12-06 Thread Tom Kerr
On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 11:25:38AM +1000, Scott Barnes wrote: > On 12/6/06, Ryan Sabir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > How many of you are developing sites in XHTML these days? Is it > > worth the extra effort? > > SOE is supposedly the ducks nuts as to why. Yet, you'd have to be a > moron to e

[cfaussie] Re: Why XHTML?

2006-12-06 Thread Scott Barnes
Hi Ryan, SOE is supposedly the ducks nuts as to why. Yet, you'd have to be a moron to expect Google to differentiate between XHTML vs HTML as in the end, content is the one commodity google and co want initially. I've read many a debate on it, but in the end the browsers are smart enough and will

[cfaussie] Re: (shakes fist at) adobe.com

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Mandel
www.cfquickdocs.com On 12/7/06, Scott Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Download the CFML reference in pdf format and never go back. > > I believe its called cfmx61_cfml_reference.zip > > Suppose there may be one for actionscript... > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/12/2006 10:53:00 am >>> > For

[cfaussie] Re: large xml file problem

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Mandel
No problem :oD Glad you enjoyed. Mark On 12/7/06, Toby Tremayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Mark - I have it working now. I was looking at David Frekke's > examples, but he links to the core api and his code uses experimental > jars for stax2 - once I had the right stuff (from the wo

[cfaussie] Re: (shakes fist at) adobe.com

2006-12-06 Thread Scott Thornton
Download the CFML reference in pdf format and never go back. I believe its called cfmx61_cfml_reference.zip Suppose there may be one for actionscript... >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/12/2006 10:53:00 am >>> For a company that sells web application server software... they sure have a slow site. I

[cfaussie] Re: (shakes fist at) adobe.com

2006-12-06 Thread Bjorn Schultheiss
download the local versions On 07/12/2006, at 10:53 AM, Ryan Sabir wrote: > For a company that sells web application server software... they > sure have a slow site. > > I dread every time I need to visit the CFML or ActionScript reference. > > > Ryan Sabir > Technical Director > > p: (02

[cfaussie] Re: large xml file problem

2006-12-06 Thread Toby Tremayne
Thanks Mark - I have it working now. I was looking at David Frekke's examples, but he links to the core api and his code uses experimental jars for stax2 - once I had the right stuff (from the woodstox project) it worked fine. Very handy tool. Toby On 07/12/2006, at 9:00 , Mark Mandel wr

[cfaussie] (shakes fist at) adobe.com

2006-12-06 Thread Ryan Sabir
For a company that sells web application server software... they sure have a slow site. I dread every time I need to visit the CFML or ActionScript reference. Ryan Sabir Technical Director p: (02) 9274 8030 f: (02) 9274 8099 m: 0411 512 454 w: www.newgency.comNewgency Pty Ltd Web | Multimed

[cfaussie] Re: SOT: sql datatypes

2006-12-06 Thread grant
Thanks heaps Adam. Cleared it up perfectly. On 12/7/06, Adam Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You're just confused, although this is not helped by me typing faster > than I was thinking, in my descriptions of the bit-usage of UTF-8, etc > (sorry, I'm @ work so was only paying 50% attention

[cfaussie] Re: Is there such a thing as "undocumented features" now?

2006-12-06 Thread Adam Cameron
There's two sides to this. 1) doing something like this: That's leveraging the fact that a CF string is actually a Java string, and using a standard Java string method upon it. 2) That's leveraging the fact that a CF query is actually a Java class, and comes with some *undocumented* methods.

[cfaussie] Re: large xml file problem

2006-12-06 Thread Mark Mandel
Sorry mate, I've never actually tried it.. I know there was a cfdj article on it, you could go hunting that out. If I can get hold of the author, I'll see if he has any code you can look at. Mark On 12/6/06, Toby Tremayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > thanks for that - loo

[cfaussie] Re: Is there such a thing as "undocumented features" now?

2006-12-06 Thread Charlie Arehart
I think you've got it right in your earlier conclusions, Steve. When it comes to using Java functionality from within CF, such as only "undocumented" from the perspective of a CF person learning about them from the CF docs. They're the same, real java methods available with any Java class and CF i

[cfaussie] Is there such a thing as "undocumented features" now?

2006-12-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Was just reading back on one of the other topics and noticed the disclaimer "This is an undocumented function so use at own risk" relating to some JAVA snippets. Does this really apply now? In the past, the disclaimer was more in relation to actual coldfusion functions like the service factory s

[cfaussie] Re: SOT: sql datatypes

2006-12-06 Thread Adam Cameron
You're just confused, although this is not helped by me typing faster than I was thinking, in my descriptions of the bit-usage of UTF-8, etc (sorry, I'm @ work so was only paying 50% attention to what I was typing). Better not to rely on me in this case, but to read this lot: http://en.wikipedia.

[cfaussie] Re: Find and remove a trailing slash from a path - brain fade time

2006-12-06 Thread Robin Hilliard
On 06/12/2006, at 8:45 PM, Mike Kear wrote: > But I do think that Andrew's java answer was really cool. I agree. There are lots of interesting undocumented methods hanging around in CFML - For instance application.getApplicationSettings() that I blogged about back in 2005: http://www.rocket

[cfaussie] Re: Find and remove a trailing slash from a path - brain fade time

2006-12-06 Thread grant
if we were on expertsexchange robin would get the points. On 12/6/06, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > AH! That's the solution I was trying to recall. Thanks Robin. > > But I do think that Andrew's java answer was really cool. > > > > Cheers > Mike Ke

[cfaussie] Re: SOT: sql datatypes

2006-12-06 Thread grant
yeah cool. thanks heaps for the info adam. here's my real question: if i'm storing standard utf-8 at 8 bytes per char, is varchar2(2000) in the 'char sematics' larger that varchar2(2000) in bytes? (since 8 * 2000 is like, way bigger than 2000 bytes...) or am i just confused, way off base and a lit

[cfaussie] Re: SOT: sql datatypes

2006-12-06 Thread Adam Cameron
A byte is a standard length - almost always eight bits - which can store 256 possible values. I suspect that's the part you already knew ;-) A character is often one byte in size (ASCII, for example... well: strictly speaking that's only seven bits, but you get my drift); but depending on the en

[cfaussie] Re: Find and remove a trailing slash from a path - brain fade time

2006-12-06 Thread Mike Kear
AH! That's the solution I was trying to recall. Thanks Robin. But I do think that Andrew's java answer was really cool. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$1

[cfaussie] Re: Find and remove a trailing slash from a path - brain fade time

2006-12-06 Thread Robin Hilliard
path = reReplace(path,"/$",""); Robin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [