Re: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia

2014-02-25 Thread Mark Mandel
I can only think of one off the top my head (not me).  Have you been to a
recent MAD meetup? That's probably your best bet for finding new talent, I
would think.

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On 26/02/2014 7:48 AM, Dave davidame...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there,

 I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers
 left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne).

 We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written
 enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications.


 dave

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RE: [cfaussie] Are there any mid-snr CF devs left in Australia

2014-02-25 Thread Mark Mandel
There you go, shows how much I'm connected these days ;)

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On 26/02/2014 8:44 AM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote:

 There are heaps,



 I personally know 30+ all employed but put an add up on seek and you will
 find the ones that aren't happy.



 Regards

 Dale Fraser



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 I can only think of one off the top my head (not me).  Have you been to a
 recent MAD meetup? That's probably your best bet for finding new talent, I
 would think.

 Sent from my mobile doohickey

 On 26/02/2014 7:48 AM, Dave davidame...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi there,



 I was wondering if there are any mid-senior level ColdFusion developers
 left in Australia (specifically, Melbourne).



 We are finding is really tough to hire people that have written
 enterprise (ie, complex, framework driven) applications.





 dave



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Re: [cfaussie] CFAussie Posts Are Very Occasional

2013-08-25 Thread Mark Mandel
Interesting! :)

From what I hear, Scala can be quite complicated, but has some nice
features built in. Be interested to hear on your take on it.

It's been on my todo list to have a cursory look over Scala, but have been
distracted by other things (clojure, neo4j, elasticsearch ... blerg blerg)

Mark

On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Gavin Baumanis beauecli...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Mark,
 Sorry for the very late reply...
 I am having a muck about with it.

 I am REALLY liking the PLAY toolkit / framework for making web apps out of
 Scala.

 Scala / Akka / Play  - seems like a pretty common stack for web
 development, too - which is good (for me) because I found them discreetly
 of each other.

 There is a Melbourne Scala User Group and the Scala / Akka / Play Google
 groups seem to have lots of traffic and learner friendly / helpful people,
 too.

 -Gavin.





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Re: [cfaussie] CFAussie Posts Are Very Occasional

2013-08-13 Thread Mark Mandel
M@ What are you doing at PHP usergroups? ;)

I think you'll find some young developers are now circling back around to
Erlang and Haskell (actually, not a joke)

Mark




On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 6:55 PM, M@ Bourke m.electronic.at.sym...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 well that's quite obvious, go to any CF usergroup or conference etc and
 count how many developers there are under 25, then go to a PHP usergroup,
 CF the likely number will be zero, PHP it'll be around 60%


 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maybe it's a sign not many new folks are coming to cf?
 On 12/08/2013 6:48 PM, M@ Bourke m.electronic.at.sym...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I think one of the reasons this group is so quiet is that everyone in
 here has been using CF for such a long time they rarely have questions.
 but I'm sure many people see the messages come through etc

 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Zac Spitzer zac.spit...@gmail.comwrote:

 do most people subscribe via email or use the web interface?


 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote:

  The kind of questions you have been posting are probably better
 placed on stack overflow.

 ** **

 You will get more answers and quicker, cfaussie is pretty dormant,
 most google groups are showing decline because of other sites such as 
 stack
 overflow.

 ** **

 Regards

 Dale Fraser

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 Hi

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 Wondering if this user group is still active as I seem to only receive
 the occasional post every now and then often nothing for over a week, in
 the past its been far more regular activity ??

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 Is there a more active user group that I am not aware of ???

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 Kind Regards

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Re: [cfaussie] CFAussie Posts Are Very Occasional

2013-08-13 Thread Mark Mandel
Oh, I don't begrudge you going to non CF user groups in the slightest...
but a PHP one? ;) for shame sir, for shame ;)

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On 13/08/2013 7:11 PM, M@ Bourke m.electronic.at.sym...@gmail.com wrote:

 I go to user groups of different languages (as many developers do), not
 just for the free food but also because they're usually in a pub lol.
 PHP community is generally much more up to date with the latest open
 source tools, you'll hear about many development/build/testing tools etc at
 least a year before they're ever mentioned in the CF community.
 I also attend the local, Python, Node and Javascript groups (I'd attend
 more but that's what my area is limited too), interesting thing is that at
 these groups 40% of the people attend the other groups.

 If anyone here only attends CF user groups I highly recommend attending
 other languages, they all use the same build tools, testing tools,
 development methodologies etc, so it's a good way of seeing demos of
 what'll appear in the CF scene a year or 2 down the line.

 It's also a good way to get the 90's mentality of You can develop faster
 in CF than other languages.

 It's an eye opener to go to a cf user group of 10 people then the next
 week to go to a PHP user group (not a conference) of 200 developers, most
 too young to have heard of CF.

 getting a little side tracked now.

 Matt
 ps: railo rocks



 On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.comwrote:

 M@ What are you doing at PHP usergroups? ;)

 I think you'll find some young developers are now circling back around to
 Erlang and Haskell (actually, not a joke)

 Mark




 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 6:55 PM, M@ Bourke 
 m.electronic.at.sym...@gmail.com wrote:

 well that's quite obvious, go to any CF usergroup or conference etc and
 count how many developers there are under 25, then go to a PHP usergroup,
 CF the likely number will be zero, PHP it'll be around 60%


 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maybe it's a sign not many new folks are coming to cf?
 On 12/08/2013 6:48 PM, M@ Bourke m.electronic.at.sym...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I think one of the reasons this group is so quiet is that everyone in
 here has been using CF for such a long time they rarely have questions.
 but I'm sure many people see the messages come through etc

 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Zac Spitzer zac.spit...@gmail.comwrote:

 do most people subscribe via email or use the web interface?


 On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.auwrote:

  The kind of questions you have been posting are probably better
 placed on stack overflow.

 ** **

 You will get more answers and quicker, cfaussie is pretty dormant,
 most google groups are showing decline because of other sites such as 
 stack
 overflow.

 ** **

 Regards

 Dale Fraser

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 *Subject:* [cfaussie] CFAussie Posts Are Very Occasional

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 Hi

 ** **

 Wondering if this user group is still active as I seem to only
 receive the occasional post every now and then often nothing for over a
 week, in the past its been far more regular activity ??

 ** **

 Is there a more active user group that I am not aware of ???

 ** **

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 Kind Regards

 ** **

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 SAMARIS Software

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Re: [cfaussie] CFAussie Posts Are Very Occasional

2013-08-13 Thread Mark Mandel
You doing some Scala at the moment Gavin?

Mark


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Gavin Baumanis beauecli...@gmail.comwrote:


 I think you'll find some young developers are now circling back around to
 Erlang and Haskell (actually, not a joke)

 Mark


 Scala for the win..
 All the good bits of Java - and the functional programming of haskell, all
 rolled into one.



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Re: [cfaussie] Aussie Winter Olympics Site Goes Live

2013-07-29 Thread Mark Mandel
Awesome :) good work!

Mark


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Geoff Bowers mod...@daemon.com.au wrote:


 On 29 July 2013 16:07, Phil Rasmussen ara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh bugger. In that case you are at the whim of the client. When does the
 site go live Geoff?


 It's live as of last Monday -- 200 days to go!

 But it will evolve over the next few months as schedule and results feeds
 become available.  Normally we have personal schedules for each athlete and
 sport, plus your more standard day by day schedules.  And during Games time
 the results will be updated every few hours.

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Re: [cfaussie] Aussie Winter Olympics Site Goes Live

2013-07-28 Thread Mark Mandel
Curious that you didn't use a CDN - any particular reason?

Mark


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Geoff Bowers mod...@daemon.com.au wrote:


 On 29 July 2013 14:27, Phil Rasmussen ara...@gmail.com wrote:

 One small suggestion for the Athletes page would be to make use of the
 nice little sport icons against each athlete profile thumbnail either as
 an overlay or appended to the hopeful text though i can see this might
 get a little tight. But without that you have no idea what sport the
 athlete represents unless you click through or use the filter randomly
 above.


 Indeed -- it's a good suggestion.  The original cards for Athletes
 included the name of their sport, but were subsequently removed at the
 request of the client.  Some things cannot be rationalised ;)

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Re: [cfaussie] Aussie Winter Olympics Site Goes Live

2013-07-28 Thread Mark Mandel
Yeah - figured a CDN would help a lot, simply because the images would be
distributed across the world.

What sort of geographical distribution do you see?  I would have thought
that given the international nature, you would see a good chunk of it come
from overseas.  Having the CDN would help with pagespeed load times, I
would figure.

Also noticed you minified your CSS and JS ;o) Wasn't that way when I first
looked :)

Mark


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Geoff Bowers mod...@daemon.com.au wrote:

 On Monday, 29 July 2013 14:46:14 UTC+10, Mark Mandel wrote:

 Curious that you didn't use a CDN - any particular reason?


 The video assets are on Akamai (or Limelight). Everything else runs
 through a cluster of Varnish Servers.

 Ideally we'd have all Olympic image and file assets on Amazon S3 or
 similar but it's a fairly integrated system across all their sites so it's
 hard to consider moving just one site.  For example,
 http://media.olympics.com.au syndicates galleries and video assets to all
 Olympic web assets.

 However, now that FarCry 6.3 natively supports a number of CDN solutions
 it's likely we'll upgrade the publishing platform and switch on a CDN in
 the lead up to the Games in Jan/Feb 2014 when the traffic starts to pick up.

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Re: [cfaussie] Aussie Winter Olympics Site Goes Live

2013-07-23 Thread Mark Mandel
I looked at it on my 2560x1440 monitor, and I think it could go wider ;)

Looks great though!

Mark


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Only looked at it on my 1440x900 monitor Geoff, but it looks great.
 Fantastic to see Railo / FarCry in action for such an event.  Well done to
 you and your team!


 On 23 July 2013 15:51, Geoff Bowers mod...@daemon.com.au wrote:

 We've just launched phase one of the Winter Olympics site here in
 Australia:
   http://sochi2014.olympics.com.au/

 Built on Railo and FarCry of course :)

 We've gone for an experimental feed based, responsive design -- it's a
 treat for those on massive monitors. Let us know what you think!

 -- geoff bowers
 Director
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Re: [cfaussie] String Manipulation

2013-07-11 Thread Mark Mandel
I'd be pretty surprised if it did. Clojure requires you to avoid the
footgun of TCO on the JVM by using special constructs.  I'd be pretty sure
CFML would be similar.  This is why we get StackOverFlowExceptions :)

Mark


On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Robin Hilliard ro...@rocketboots.com.auwrote:

 On 12/07/2013, at 8:07 AM, Chris Velevitch chris.velevi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Robin Hilliard ro...@rocketboots.com.au
  wrote:


 I should point out that because the recursion is on the last line of the
 function this is tail recursive - the compiler will notice this and
 optimise the code by throwing away the current stack frame (which would
 have been used by later statements in the function had they existed) each
 time the recursive call is made, so you don't need to worry about a stack
 overflow - this is how functional languages iterate efficiently.


 Are you saying that Railo does tail recursion optimisation?  Do you know
 if ACF does tail recursion optimisation?


 Actually I'd like to make a (very surprising to me) correction - unlike
 many VMs and interpreters for other languages the Sun JVM does not support
 hard (in VM) tail call optimisation, whereas the IBM JVM does support it
 where possible. There is ongoing discussion as to whether or not Java 8
 will support it. I assumed tail call optimisation was universal - it's not
 hard to implement, for example little virtual machine I wrote for my
 Greener Threads talk at CFOANZ included tail call optimisation for a simple
 subset of cfscript. Apparently the java permission mechanism and the need
 to include a stack trace in exceptions have prevented it to date.

 I do not know off hand if ColdFusion or Railo support any soft tail call
 optimisation when compiling CFML to byte code.

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: String Manipulation

2013-07-10 Thread Mark Mandel
That's some hot Regex.


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Rawdyn Nutting raw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think you might find a RegEx using back-referencing and look-ahead is
 the way to go...

 REReplace(variables.start_str,**'(..)(?!$)','\1:','all');

 Full test below.

 cfscript
 variables.start_str = '1Z0617756740260660';
 variables.end_str = REReplace(variables.start_str,**'(..)(?!$)','\1:','all
 ');
 writeOutput(variables.start_**str  'br'); // Initial String
 writeOutput('1Z:06:17:75:67:**40:26:06:60br'); // Target result
 writeOutput(variables.end_str)**; // Actual Result
 abort;
 /cfscript

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Re: [cfaussie] String Manipulation

2013-07-10 Thread Mark Mandel
There ya go:
cfscript
function colonise(s, out=) {
return (s eq ) ? out : colonise(mid(s, 3, Len(s)), listAppend(out,
left(s, 2), :));
 }

writeOutput(colonise(1Z0617756740260660));
/cfscript

Missed a len.

It just recursively runs through the string, taking two off the front of s
and putting them back on out until s eq .

Mark


On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote:

  That looks very clever, I don’t understand it so I tried to run it and
 work it out,

 ** **

 But it doesn’t work for me.

 ** **

 Mid requires 3 params but you are passing 2, so not sure 

 ** **

 Regards

 Dale Fraser

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 *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] String Manipulation

 ** **

 Or perhaps fp-style:

 ** **

 function colonise(s, out=) {

 return (s eq ) ? out : colonise(mid(s, 3), listAppend(out,
 left(s, 2), :));

 }

 ** **

 writeOutput(colonise(1Z0617756740260660));

 ** **

 Cheers,

 Robin

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Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion/Railo on Java PaaS

2013-07-09 Thread Mark Mandel
The issue we found was that pretty much all the PaaS systems out there were
only available in one region - e.g. I think (at the time) CloudBees was
only US-East on AWS (pretty sure they have Europe options now?).

So it there was a entire region outage (which has happened in the past),
you were up the proverbial creek without a paddle.

For that reason, I've never really hoped on board the PaaS wagon, as it's
too hard to do cross region failover. That being said, if it's not a
priority (or if they fixed that up for you already) then all for it.

(Looks like Heroku is doing cross region failover as a beta atm -
https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/disaster-mitigation, which is pretty
cool).

I also always worry about how expensive CF (More so ACF is vs Railo) is,
resource wise, because of it's monolithic nature and how much it packs into
one punch.  Another very good reason to be able to modularise CF would be
for utilising a large amount of low resource infrastructure, e.g. a lot of
PaaS working together.

So no real world experience, but that was the takeaways I had from looking
into it last year.

Mark




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 Anyone out there been working with a Java PaaS (platform as a service)?

 Been having some great success tinkering with CloudBees (
 http://www.cloudbees.net).  Was wondering if anyone had good experiences
 on other platforms as well.

 Trying to work out if its viable or not to consider these deployment
 environments for client CF apps, and move to the whole NoOPS Nirvana.

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Re: [cfaussie] What the ColdFusion community needs more of...

2012-11-26 Thread Mark Mandel
I hate to point this out but...

Why would a student bet his future on a programming language that is such a
small part of the global programming community?  Statistically, it just
doesn't make any sense.

Especially at that price?




On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote:

 I'll prefix this by saying I like Railo and think it has something to
 offer.

 ** **

 However moving from a niche product ColdFusion to an even more niche
 product Railo certainly holds risk.

 ** **

 I wonder how many people would use Railo if ColdFusion were free.

 ** **

 Regards

 Dale Fraser

 ** **

 http://dale.fraser.id.au

 ** **

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 Behalf Of *M@ Bourke
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 *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] What the ColdFusion community needs more of...**
 **

 ** **

 Coldfusion needs more of a move to the OSS servers, and people hanging
 with other OSS devs and telling them about Railo etc.

 I go to several different language groups where I live, if I say I use
 coldfusion they're stunned and the conversation ends there, if I say I use
 Railo its an open source Coldfusion server oh really? yeah there is
 more than one open source server plus one Adobe still makes

 ** **

 fortunately the last 2 conferences I went to, over 70% of devs were using
 Railo commercially, the tide is turning fast

 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Barry Beattie barry.beat...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  On another note who in the world can take 10 weeks off full time to do
 such a
  course.

 the unemployed, students, etc. I was four months unemployed last year.
 I was three months unemployed (thanks, Can-Do Campbell!) until
 recently. It happens.


  If Adobe were to sponsor / subsidise this it would be a different story.
 

 now you're talking, although it would have to be through their
 training partners, surely to keep them onside?


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Re: [cfaussie] What the ColdFusion community needs more of...

2012-11-26 Thread Mark Mandel
Oh that's a totally different problem!

I just made the assumption that the training was good.

Mark

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Kai Koenig grmblz...@gmail.com wrote:

 but still - would you book an 8 week Rails course with random promises as
 made on that site without knowing about who's behind it, who the teachers
 are etc...? :)




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Re: [cfaussie] What the ColdFusion community needs more of...

2012-11-26 Thread Mark Mandel
Might be ;)

Mark


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 I feel a 2ddu podcast brewing ;-)


 On 27 November 2012 12:45, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh that's a totally different problem!

 I just made the assumption that the training was good.

 Mark


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 but still - would you book an 8 week Rails course with random promises
 as made on that site without knowing about who's behind it, who the
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Re: [cfaussie] [ANN SYD] Tonight (Wednesday): Clojure and CFML Sitting In A Tree

2012-08-21 Thread Mark Mandel
You should go :) It was really good.

Mark

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Chris Velevitch
chris.velevi...@gmail.comwrote:

 PLEASE NOTE CHANGE OF DATE

 Wednesday, 22nd August. Meet at 6pm for 6:30pm start.

 Sean Corfield is in Australia for a limited time and he has agreed to
 present tonight.

 World Singles has been using CFML for over a decade but in the last
 couple of years has decided to add Clojure to the mix, to tackle some
 of the interesting issues you can face when you have millions of users
 and many gigabytes of data to process. World Singles has been using
 Clojure in production for over a year now, alongside CFML. This talk
 will introduce some of the concepts behind functional programming,
 offer a brief overview of the Clojure language, and show how well it
 integrates with CFML to provide large scale data processing,
 concurrency, and great performance.

 Please RSVP to help with the catering numbers. You need to sign in and
 join the group to RSVP. Please RSVP at
 http://apugs.groups.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=post.displaypostid=43730
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Re: [cfaussie] MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers: Searn Corfield, Clojure. 21 Aug **TUESDAY**, 2012

2012-08-08 Thread Mark Mandel
S'gonna be a full house! :)

Mark

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Brendan Owen brendan.o...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll be there
 On Aug 8, 2012 5:52 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote:

 And me, probably 4 from here.

 ** **

 Regards

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 http://cfmldocs.com

 http://learncf.com

 http://flexcf.com

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 I'll be coming along too.

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Re: [cfaussie] MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers: Searn Corfield, Clojure. 21 Aug **TUESDAY**, 2012

2012-08-05 Thread Mark Mandel
I was there the other week - I believe there was about 15 people, and that
was the largest they had had.

TBH - not sure how many will want to come to a CFML group - but who knows!
:)

Mark

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Peter Robertson pe...@p-robertson.comwrote:

 Yes, this has been at the back of my mind Dale.  I don't think the whole
 Clojure group intend to come, but I'll keep an eye on it, may have to cap
 it if too many respond.

 Peter


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 I'd also add that the room can only hold so many comfortably, but I have
 no
 concept of how many are in the Melbourne Clojure group.

 Regards
 Dale Fraser

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 http://learncf.com
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 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers: Searn Corfield,
 Clojure. 21 Aug **TUESDAY**, 2012

 I'll be attending as well

 On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Now worries. Just trying to help it all out :)
 
  Mark
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Peter Robertson
  pe...@p-robertson.com
  wrote:
 
  Good point Mark.  I'm in touch with the Clojure group co-manager and
  am waiting on a link to the post of the event on the Clojure list.
  Clojure folk can just reply on their list, and I'll monitor it, just
  to keep things simple.
 
  Cheers
 
 
  Peter
 
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  It's in my calendar as well.
 
  Hey - if people from Clojure Melbourne want to come, what's the best
  way for them to RSVP?
 
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[cfaussie] Speaker submissions for cf.Objective(ANZ)!

2012-07-09 Thread Mark Mandel
All,

Don't forget, you've got 10 days until your speaker submissions for
cf.Objective(ANZ) are due in.

More details:
http://cfobjective.com.au/news/call-for-speakers-for-2012

Looking forward to seeing your submissions!

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Re: [cfaussie] Cloud Solutions

2012-04-19 Thread Mark Mandel
The last summit was really good, this one looks better!  Was actually
genuinely surprised I didn't see anyone from the CF community there.

I'm going to be on a plane to cf.Objective() when the Melbourne one is on,
and I'm kinda bummed about it.

Mark

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Paul Kukiel kuki...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone working with cloud based servers and Amazon might be interested in
 attendign this event in Melbourne Mid May:

 http://aws.amazon.com/apac/**awssummit-au/melbourne-**register/http://aws.amazon.com/apac/awssummit-au/melbourne-register/

 Also is anyone hasn't used Amazon you can have access to a Windows or
 Linux server for free for a year.  Even the Micro instance can run Win 2008
 and Coldfusion 9 and SQL server.

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Re: [cfaussie] MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting April 19, 2012

2012-04-18 Thread Mark Mandel
I just had a mental picture of you all Dexter dressed up with a hack saw

Glad to hear he's doing well. Dog's tend to adjust pretty quick from what I
understand :D

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 (And for those reading and thinking WTF, I had to amputate my dogs leg.
 Don't worry it wasn't a DIY job, hehe)


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Re: [cfaussie] MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting March 22, 2012

2012-03-21 Thread Mark Mandel
I'll be there too ;o)

Oh - and bring something that is Internet connected - there is some online
interaction involved in the presentation :)

Mark

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Paul Kukiel kuki...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll be there along with Alex G, Alex K, Jack and Bill.

 Paul.


 On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Peter Robertson 
 peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote:

 A/B Testing with Squabble

 by Mark Mandel

 You have two designs, one with a blue button, and one with a red
 button, and you think that both designs could work on your a feature
 of your application. The problem is, how do you know which one is
 actually better? Which design is going to convert more users into
 giving you their hard earned dollars through your application?

 The fact of the matter is, you don't actually know. You can only make
 a guestimate based on your experience as a web application developer,
 and hope for the best.  Unfortunately, real users can be a fickle
 bunch that do unpredictable things, and it can be very hard to track
 what the overall effect of all these changes to a site can make.

 Squabble is a server side A/B testing framework for ColdFusion that
 allows you to test multiple variations of site design and/or
 functionality against your real users, in real time, and quantify the
 results into statistics that can actually prove which combination of
 variations results in your application getting more of the conversions
 that you require. This gives you amazing freedom in being able to try
 out new things on established sites, as you are able to track what
 changes actually effect the behaviour of your real users, and then
 continually improve upon them.

 Mark Mandel is a full time consultant and lead developer on several
 open source projects, most notably ColdSpring, JavaLoader, Transfer
 ORM and ColdDoc and has been has been working with ColdFusion for a
 number of years, including at his very own dot com back in the late
 90's.

 Mark can often be found blogging at www.compoundtheory.com, which has
 housed his thoughts on ColdFusion, Java and various aspects of
 software development for several years.  He can also be found as a
 regular poster on ColdFusion mailing lists, causing havoc in the
 #coldfusion channel on Dalnet irc network and podcasting on www.2ddu.com.

 When he's not too busy writing open source software and consulting he
 enjoys spending his extra time training martial arts in a wide variety
 of disciplines and reading way too much fantasy literature.


 Date: Thursday 22 March 2012
 Time: 6:30 PM
 Location:
 CogState
 Level 2
 255 Bourke Street
 Melbourne, VIC, 3000

 A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access.
 RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we
 know how many pizzas to order.

 As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their
 hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there

 Peter Robertson

 Co-Manager
 Melbourne Adobe Developers

 Steve Onnis

 Manager
 Melbourne Adobe Developers

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Re: [cfaussie] MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting March 22, 2012

2012-03-21 Thread Mark Mandel
I'll be setting traps for Phil around 6:40, so make sure to get in before
then.

Mark

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Phil Haeusler philhaeus...@gmail.comwrote:

 sneaking in at about 6:45 or so.  See you then




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Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting March 22, 2012

2012-03-21 Thread Mark Mandel
Geez! Lots of people! I had better bring my A game :)

Mark

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Devon Borysiewicz 
devon.borysiew...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll be attending as well.


 On Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:14:26 UTC+11, Peter Robertson wrote:

 A/B Testing with Squabble

 by Mark Mandel

 You have two designs, one with a blue button, and one with a red
 button, and you think that both designs could work on your a feature
 of your application. The problem is, how do you know which one is
 actually better? Which design is going to convert more users into
 giving you their hard earned dollars through your application?

 The fact of the matter is, you don't actually know. You can only make
 a guestimate based on your experience as a web application developer,
 and hope for the best.  Unfortunately, real users can be a fickle
 bunch that do unpredictable things, and it can be very hard to track
 what the overall effect of all these changes to a site can make.

 Squabble is a server side A/B testing framework for ColdFusion that
 allows you to test multiple variations of site design and/or
 functionality against your real users, in real time, and quantify the
 results into statistics that can actually prove which combination of
 variations results in your application getting more of the conversions
 that you require. This gives you amazing freedom in being able to try
 out new things on established sites, as you are able to track what
 changes actually effect the behaviour of your real users, and then
 continually improve upon them.

 Mark Mandel is a full time consultant and lead developer on several
 open source projects, most notably ColdSpring, JavaLoader, Transfer
 ORM and ColdDoc and has been has been working with ColdFusion for a
 number of years, including at his very own dot com back in the late
 90's.

 Mark can often be found blogging at www.compoundtheory.com, which has
 housed his thoughts on ColdFusion, Java and various aspects of
 software development for several years.  He can also be found as a
 regular poster on ColdFusion mailing lists, causing havoc in the
 #coldfusion channel on Dalnet irc network and podcasting on www.2ddu.com.


 When he's not too busy writing open source software and consulting he
 enjoys spending his extra time training martial arts in a wide variety
 of disciplines and reading way too much fantasy literature.


 Date: Thursday 22 March 2012
 Time: 6:30 PM
 Location:
 CogState
 Level 2
 255 Bourke Street
 Melbourne, VIC, 3000

 A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access.
 RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we
 know how many pizzas to order.

 As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their
 hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there

 Peter Robertson

 Co-Manager
 Melbourne Adobe Developers

 Steve Onnis

 Manager
 Melbourne Adobe Developers

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[cfaussie] ColdFusion IDE Survey

2012-02-21 Thread Mark Mandel
Hey guys,

Got asked to pass this survey around on what IDE you use for ColdFusion,
from Adobe.

http://svy.mk/yEvFtH

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Re: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework.

2012-02-16 Thread Mark Mandel
Thanks Dale.

Apparently I have no idea what I'm doing.

Mark

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote:

 I'd recommend no framework.

 Frameworks are for people who don't know what they are doing :P

 Regards
 Dale Fraser

 http://dale.fraser.id.au
 http://cfmldocs.com
 http://learncf.com
 http://flexcf.com

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 Subject: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework.

 Firstly, kudos for sticking it out with CF all these years! :)

 Secondly, I'm keen to brush the dust off my old CF skills and try it out
 again feeling more armed in the plethora of languages I've acquired over
 the
 years. That being said, I'm also keen to see what all the cool kids are
 using with regards to CF after market addons.

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Re: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework.

2012-02-16 Thread Mark Mandel
Oh yeah - and what sort of framework?

Model-View-Controller, Dependency Injection, ORM ?

What sort of application? What sort of frameworks are you used to? etc etc.

Mark

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Adam Chapman a...@portplus.com wrote:

 @Dale: Frameworks are for people who don't know what they are doing :P

 Or for those who invent wheels for fun..

 Documentation is overrated too ;)

 Regards,
 Adam


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 Behalf Of Dale Fraser
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 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework.

 I'd recommend no framework.

 Frameworks are for people who don't know what they are doing :P

 Regards
 Dale Fraser

 http://dale.fraser.id.au
 http://cfmldocs.com
 http://learncf.com
 http://flexcf.com

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 Subject: [cfaussie] Recommendations for a CF Framework.

 Firstly, kudos for sticking it out with CF all these years! :)

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 again feeling more armed in the plethora of languages I've acquired over
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting Feb 16 2012 StageWebView (AIR), Backbone (JS)

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Mandel
Amost there

Sent from my mobile doohickey.
On Feb 16, 2012 6:13 PM, Rawdyn raw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very disappointed I won't be able to make it tonight. I really wanted
 to see these presentations.

 Has anyone looked at the possibility of remote access to these
 meetings?
 Even something as basic as sticking a phone on the desk and connecting
 through Google Hangouts would be enough.

 Just a thought. It might bring in a lot more participation (of sorts).
 Happy to contribute to set-up costs of any such solution.

 Have a good night folks. Will try to be at the next one.

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Meeting Feb 16 2012 StageWebView (AIR), Backbone (JS)

2012-02-13 Thread Mark Mandel
I should be there as well.

Mark

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Dawesi daw...@gmail.com wrote:

 sweet... anyone looking at using any javascript framework for mobile
 with phonegap should definately head to this one!

 Dawesi (I rsvped through adobe groups)

 On Feb 13, 11:00 am, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  StageWebView  by Brendan Owen
 
  Using StageWebView integrated into an AIR application and compiled as
  a native App.  StageWebView is the name of a class that displays the
  native browser of the mobile device without leaving your native App.
 
  Brendan is Digital Product Developer with Jacaranda, a division of
  John Wiley  Sons Australia, Ltd
 
  Building Mobile Apps with Backbone
 
  Backbone brings structure to your Javascript applications by supplying
  models, events, collections and views that easily connect to your
  existing APIs over a RESTful JSON interface.
 
  See how you can develop native mobile apps with HTML5 using Backbone
  and PhoneGap.  We'll leverage the native device storage options
  available through the PhoneGap Storage API to allow your app to work
  when offline or only occasionally connected.
 
  We'll also compare the approach taken by Backbone with other libraries
  such as AngularJS highlighting the strengths of each platform.
 
  Phil is an freelance developer who consults for a range of
  organisations delivering Web, Desktop, Mobile and Cloud based
  solutions.  While often found using ColdFusion and Flash, more
  recently he has developed a range of cross platform solutions using
  HTML5 and PhoneGap, as well as native solutions using C++ and
  Objective C.  Phil advocates best practice approaches to development
  methodologies, testing and deployment security.
 
  Date: Thursday 16 February 2012
  Time: 6:30 PM
  Location:
  CogState
  Level 2
  255 Bourke Street
  Melbourne, VIC, 3000
 
  A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access.
  RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we
  know how many pizzas to order.
 
  As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their
  hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there
 
  Peter Robertson
 
  Co-Manager
  Melbourne Adobe Developers
 
  Steve Onnis
 
  Manager
  Melbourne Adobe Developers

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Re: [cfaussie] cfchart

2012-02-13 Thread Mark Mandel
We've been using http://www.jqplot.com/ for Squabble reporting - and it's
been very responsive.

Mark

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM, AJ Mercer ajmer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Wow! - the is freaking awesome


 On 14 February 2012 12:03, Zac Spitzer zac.spit...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.highcharts.com/ is pretty good

 On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Andrew am2...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am currently working on a project that includes some graphing and
  I've invested a little bit of effort into using cfchart so far but I
  am finding the basic functionality a bit limiting for my requirements
  but paradoxically the chart designer tool too hard core.
 
  I just wanted to get a feel for what other people were doing.  Is
  cfchart serving most people's needs, or is it worth considering
  something like Google Chart Tools (or are there any other similar
  tools folks would recommend?)
 
  BTW I am aware (via Terry @ cfobjective anz) that there is some new
  stuff coming for cfchart, but I'd be reluctant to pin my hopes on it
  when we still don't have a release date. ;-)
 
  Many thanks,
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: verity error

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Mandel
I've done a fair amount of standalone SOLR work, and it's pretty awesome.
TBH I've never gone near the integrated version, as using it standalone has
so much more to it than what is exposed by CF.

Mark

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Mark Picker mark.pic...@det.nsw.edu.auwrote:

 Hi Steve,

 I had a similar issue when using type=Internet which would return
 Error executing query: unknown_handler_internet.  I was pointed to
 this on the Adobe bug tracker:
 http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html#bugId=79649

 I'm not liking SOLR all that much.  I'm finding that Verity was much
 smarter in the way it built the summary (not to mention SOLR creates a
 much shorter summary).  Whenever someone mentions how good SOLR is
 over Verity it seems that they are always using their own install of
 SOLR and not the built in one.or at least not using the CF tags to
 index and search.

 Cheers
 Mark

 On Feb 7, 2:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
  Has anyone seen this error?
 
  Error executing query : unknown_handler_natural
 
  It is a Solr collection. The collection created fine but i cant search
 it.
 
  Steve

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: verity error

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Mandel
If you are looking to learn SOLR, you can't go past this book:
http://www.packtpub.com/solr-1-4-enterprise-search-server/book

Oh and you can access the SolrServer Java API from with CF - it's in there,
although you will probably have to get your own connection.

Mark

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Barry Chesterman
barrychester...@gmail.comwrote:

 the built in CF tags for using SOLR are not that nice, they are fine for
 basic stuff but if you really want to use SOLR as it was intended you
 really have to query it directly (it's just an HTTP request and then XML
 parsing from there).
 The coldfusion tags for querying SOLR lack a lot of options and it doesn't
 let you specify specific properties.
 The other downside about SOLR is the sad documentation (although it's not
 as sad as verity documentation, lol)

 I've used both and I found SOLR much more powerful and useful but it
 wasn't as easy to learn.


 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've done a fair amount of standalone SOLR work, and it's pretty awesome.
 TBH I've never gone near the integrated version, as using it standalone has
 so much more to it than what is exposed by CF.

 Mark


 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Mark Picker 
 mark.pic...@det.nsw.edu.auwrote:

 Hi Steve,

 I had a similar issue when using type=Internet which would return
 Error executing query: unknown_handler_internet.  I was pointed to
 this on the Adobe bug tracker:
 http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html#bugId=79649

 I'm not liking SOLR all that much.  I'm finding that Verity was much
 smarter in the way it built the summary (not to mention SOLR creates a
 much shorter summary).  Whenever someone mentions how good SOLR is
 over Verity it seems that they are always using their own install of
 SOLR and not the built in one.or at least not using the CF tags to
 index and search.

 Cheers
 Mark

 On Feb 7, 2:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
  Has anyone seen this error?
 
  Error executing query : unknown_handler_natural
 
  It is a Solr collection. The collection created fine but i cant search
 it.
 
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: verity error

2012-02-07 Thread Mark Mandel
Don't look at me - I just set up SOLR on jetty and loaded up the SolrJ
library with JavaLoader and off I went.

I didn't bother with the one with CF.

Mark

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Mark Picker mark.pic...@det.nsw.edu.auwrote:

 Hi Mark and Barry,

 Is there any documentation on using SOLR directly and bypassing the cf
 tags?  I did previously look at the official SOLR
 documentation.and sad is correct :)

 Cheers
 Mark

 On Feb 8, 3:32 pm, Barry Chesterman barrychester...@gmail.com wrote:
  the built in CF tags for using SOLR are not that nice, they are fine for
  basic stuff but if you really want to use SOLR as it was intended you
  really have to query it directly (it's just an HTTP request and then XML
  parsing from there).
  The coldfusion tags for querying SOLR lack a lot of options and it
 doesn't
  let you specify specific properties.
  The other downside about SOLR is the sad documentation (although it's not
  as sad as verity documentation, lol)
 
  I've used both and I found SOLR much more powerful and useful but it
 wasn't
  as easy to learn.
 
 
 
  On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   I've done a fair amount of standalone SOLR work, and it's pretty
 awesome.
   TBH I've never gone near the integrated version, as using it
 standalone has
   so much more to it than what is exposed by CF.
 
   Mark
 
   On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Mark Picker 
 mark.pic...@det.nsw.edu.auwrote:
 
   Hi Steve,
 
   I had a similar issue when using type=Internet which would return
   Error executing query: unknown_handler_internet.  I was pointed to
   this on the Adobe bug tracker:
  http://cfbugs.adobe.com/cfbugreport/flexbugui/cfbugtracker/main.html#.
 ..
 
   I'm not liking SOLR all that much.  I'm finding that Verity was much
   smarter in the way it built the summary (not to mention SOLR creates a
   much shorter summary).  Whenever someone mentions how good SOLR is
   over Verity it seems that they are always using their own install of
   SOLR and not the built in one.or at least not using the CF tags to
   index and search.
 
   Cheers
   Mark
 
   On Feb 7, 2:42 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:
Has anyone seen this error?
 
Error executing query : unknown_handler_natural
 
It is a Solr collection. The collection created fine but i cant
 search
   it.
 
Steve
 
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Re: [cfaussie] verity error

2012-02-06 Thread Mark Mandel
Sounds like you're trying to search a Solr collection with Verity.

Mark

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote:

 Has anyone seen this error?

 ** **

 *Error executing query : unknown_handler_natural*

 ** **

 It is a Solr collection. The collection created fine but i cant search it.
 

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Re: Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers: No meeting for Jan 2012

2012-01-18 Thread Mark Mandel
I was really hoping I could make it along to this, but doesn't look like
I'm going to be able to attend :(

Sorry guys!

Mark

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Peter Robertson pe...@p-robertson.comwrote:

 I'm definitely for a meal, happy to make it a short drink, or skip the
 drink altogether, how's everyone else feeling?

 Peter


 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote:

 I might be up for dinner on Thursday

 ** **

 Lots of good chineese places in China Town

 ** **

 We go to Post Deng weekly, good food, reasonable prices.

 ** **

 Let me know, I might skip the drinking, since I don’t drink.

 ** **

 Regards

 Dale Fraser

 ** **

 http://dale.fraser.id.au

 http://cfmldocs.com

 http://learncf.com

 http://flexcf.com

 ** **

 *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *peter.tilbr...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 January 2012 9:33 PM
 *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers: No
 meeting for Jan 2012

 ** **

 Wish I was in town but too much going on here ATM. Have fun though. Talk
 about Zeus if you can - is coming along nicely.

 On , Peter Robertson pe...@p-robertson.com wrote:
  So, yes drinks and/or dinner, depending upon how much time people have.
  I'll probably stick around for dinner also.
 
  Peter
 
  On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Phil Haeusler philhaeus...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
  In an effort to make this the most well attended non-mad mad
  meeting, I'd be up for drinks and dinner Thursday too
 
 
 
  And don't worry Dennis, Melbourne is renowned for it's great cheap
  dodgy Chinese restaurants
 
 
 
  Phil
 
 
 
 
 
  On 17/01/12 6:20 PM, Dennis Clark wrote:
  Peter: It's been long enough since I was last down
  there that I didn't remember if it was Burke or Bourke, but
  thankfully Google Maps has autocorrect :)
 
 
 
 
  Mark: I've got all of Thursday night free so I can go for
  dinner as well, assuming it's not overly expensive. Fancy
  schmancy restaurants is one part of the Melbourne experience
  that I don't mind skipping.
 
 
 
 
 
  -- Dennis
 
 
 
  On 17 January 2012 17:55, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 
  You thinking just drinks, or you want to grab dinner
  somewhere as well?
 
 
 
 
  I could potentially do Thursday too ;o)
 
 
 
 
 
  Mark
 
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:39
  PM, Peter Robertson pe...@p-robertson.com
  wrote:
 
  Thanks
  Dale.  It's BOURKE Dennis, but I'm sure you knew
  that.
 
 
 
 
  Peter R
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Dale
  Fraser d...@fraser.id.au
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  Burke
  street, where is that?
 
 
 
  Regards
 
  Dale Fraser
 
 
 
  http://dale.fraser.id.au
 
  http://cfmldocs.com
 
  http://learncf.com
 
  http://flexcf.com
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
 
  From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com]
  On Behalf
 
  Of Peter Robertson
 
  Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2012 3:26
  PM
 
  To: cfaussie
 
  Subject: [cfaussie] Re: MAD!
  Melbourne Adobe Developers: No
  meeting for Jan
 
  2012
 
 
 
  Hi Dennis
 
 
 
  I'd be happy to meet for a drink on
  Thursday evening.
 
  If you're in the CBD, then a
  suitable venue would be:
 
 
 
  Date: Thursday 16 Dec 2011
 
  Time: 6:00 PM
 
  Location:
 
  Top floor
 
  The Carlton, www.thecarlton.com.au
 
  193 Burke St (One block up from
  CogState) Melbourne, VIC, 3000
 
 
 
  Any other starters?
 
 
 
  Peter Robertson
 
 
 
  On Jan 17, 3:20 pm, Dennis Clark
  boomf...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   I guess that ruins my
  gatecrashing plans.
 
  
 
   I'll be in the Melbourne CBD
  this Thursday and Friday, so if any
  of
 
   you MAD hatters are planning a
  non-meet gathering and wouldn't mind
 
   the company of a random
  non-local CF developer, let me know.
 
  
 
   -- Dennis
 
  
 
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  Robertson
 
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers: No meeting for Jan 2012

2012-01-16 Thread Mark Mandel
You thinking just drinks, or you want to grab dinner somewhere as well?

I could potentially do Thursday too ;o)

Mark

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Peter Robertson pe...@p-robertson.comwrote:

 Thanks Dale.  It's BOURKE Dennis, but I'm sure you knew that.

 Peter R

 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote:

 Burke street, where is that?

 Regards
 Dale Fraser

 http://dale.fraser.id.au
 http://cfmldocs.com
 http://learncf.com
 http://flexcf.com

 -Original Message-
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 Behalf
 Of Peter Robertson
 Sent: Tuesday, 17 January 2012 3:26 PM
 To: cfaussie
 Subject: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers: No meeting for
 Jan
 2012

 Hi Dennis

 I'd be happy to meet for a drink on Thursday evening.
 If you're in the CBD, then a suitable venue would be:

 Date: Thursday 16 Dec 2011
 Time: 6:00 PM
 Location:
 Top floor
 The Carlton, www.thecarlton.com.au
 193 Burke St (One block up from CogState) Melbourne, VIC, 3000

 Any other starters?

 Peter Robertson

 On Jan 17, 3:20 pm, Dennis Clark boomf...@gmail.com wrote:
  I guess that ruins my gatecrashing plans.
 
  I'll be in the Melbourne CBD this Thursday and Friday, so if any of
  you MAD hatters are planning a non-meet gathering and wouldn't mind
  the company of a random non-local CF developer, let me know.
 
  -- Dennis
 
  On 12 January 2012 19:57, Peter Robertson
 peter.r.robert...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Greetings and Happy New Year to all Melbourne Adobe Developers.  We
   will be kicking off our MAD meetings next month, Thursday 16th Feb.
 
   As always, we'll be looking for presentations during the year.  If
   you would like to present on a technology (which can be anything of
   interest to CF, AS or Flex developers), or if you'd like to talk
   about methodologies or even a project your're working on, please get
   in touch and we'll schedule you in.
 
   We look forward to seeing you all soon.
 
   Peter Robertson
 
   Co-Manager
   Melbourne Adobe Developers
 
   Steve Onnis
 
   Manager
   Melbourne Adobe Developers
 
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Re: [cfaussie] OT : Amazon buckets

2012-01-11 Thread Mark Mandel
Automatically like dropbox, or on a scheduled basis, like rsync?

Mark

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: OO Application Architecture

2012-01-10 Thread Mark Mandel
AbstractBase classes and onMissingMethod...

Mark

On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Gavin Baumanis beauecli...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sure thing.

 gavinsManagerCFC
 ...
 cffunction name=getgavinsObject
 cfargument name = ag1 required=true... 
 cfargument name = ag2 required=true... 

 cfreturn gavinsDAOCFC.getGavinsObject(arg1 = #arguments.arg1#, arg2
 = #arguments.arg2# 
 /cffunction


 gavinsDAOCFC
 ...
  cffunction name=getgavinsObject
 cfargument name = ag1 required=true... 
 cfargument name = ag2 required=true... 

 ... Some SQL
 WHERE column1 = #arguments.arg1#
AND column2 = #arguments.arg2#

 return something (maybe)
 /cffunction

 In this case the getGavinsObject in gavinsManagerCFC is practically a
 stub / duplication of the function in the DAO.
 The argument is why bother?

 Why not just call the DAO version of the CFC and do away with the
 managerCFC entirely?


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Re: [cfaussie] Re: OO Application Architecture

2012-01-10 Thread Mark Mandel
Yup -

And to make things 3x as fun, using something like:
https://github.com/markmandel/coldspring/blob/develop/coldspring/orm/hibernate/AbstractGateway.cfc

To generate most of your basic DAO/Gateway methods using onMissingMethod as
well, you barely have to write anything at all.

Mark

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 Hi Mark,
 I realise you mentioned this already in this same thread...

 But I think the penny has finally dropped.
 By using onMissingMethod, you only need to write the code in the
 ManagerCFC that is actually different from the method in the DAO.

 Embarassingly, I have even used onMissingMethod in exactly the same way -
 while playing around with RocketBoots' Galaxy SOA CFC last year...

 So, there is no duplicate code argument to be had here.

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: OO Application Architecture

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Mandel
Why not use onMissingMethod and Abstract Classes to proxy service calls
down to the gateway, and that takes away 95% of the work? (real world
statistic)

Mark

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 Also, by having the service layer as well, I am now creating an awful lot
 of duplicate code.
 I now must have;
 serviceLayerCFC.getMyObject() AND
 daoCFC.getMyObject()




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Re: [cfaussie] OO Application Architecture

2012-01-03 Thread Mark Mandel
Short answer -

Often the service layer proxies the gateway, but not always.

Also, there is no reason a archive layer couldn't communicate to multiple
gateways and/or services.

Mark

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On Jan 4, 2012 11:46 AM, Gavin Baumanis beauecli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 I was recently chatting at work about how we might go about architecting a
 new application.
 I suggested that we have;
 Objects,
 Service Managers
 and Gateways.

 Whereby the ServiceManager is the public API for the gateway.

 Then I got asked , Why?

 I explained that it was good practice to separate out the plublic API from
 the gateway and gave the example of changing database providers.
 Eg. Swapping from MS-SQL server to PostGreSQL.

 With my architecture proposal, you only need to change the gateway
 (perhaps some minor tweaks to the ServiceManager CFCs.

 So far so goo... Until I got asked Why again.
 You still need to change the code somewhere for the new database flavour.
 What is the ServiceManager  doing for us, it seems like a redundant
 duplication of code?

 Subsequently, I have been thinking about it more - and can't come up with
 a good reason.

 I could be doing it completely wrong...
 But for the most part, my Service layer becomes a duplicate of the Gateway.
 * Ensure we have the required arguments for the gateway,
 * Call the gateway functions, using the supplied arguments
 * Return exactly the gateway's return value(s) to the consumer.

 99.9% of the time the arguments are exactly the same,
 The data / structure (whatever) that is returned from the gateway, is
 returned unaltered to the consumer, too.
 For the very small number of times that I might do some data
 transformation (in the ServiceManager) before it is returned... well I
 could simply create THAT method in my gateway and have;
 * Call the this.GETTER method
 * Transform the data as required
 * Return the transformed data

 So am I missing something? Or have I just talked myself out of the
 requirement for (perhaps, excluding web-services) of ever needing to have a
 separate service layer to a Gateway CFC?


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Re: [cfaussie] Incompatible Jars

2011-12-21 Thread Mark Mandel
Beat me to it :)

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On Dec 22, 2011 11:52 AM, AJ Mercer ajmer...@gmail.com wrote:

 is that what javaLoader does?
  http://javaloader.riaforge.org/


 On 22 December 2011 08:49, skateboard.com.au w...@skateboard.com.auwrote:

 Hi People

 I have a java api I am using. I was hoping to invoke it natively via CF
 (running 9). The api uses about 40 common type apache jars, several of
 which are also used by CF. Problem is when I dump these in CF9/lib I get
 errors due to CF wanting to use diff versions than the api I am using.

 I was wondering if there was a way with CF to somehow specify that a
 certain created object uses a certain classpath/set of packages rather
 than inheriting all the CF ones. If I am just going about this all the
 wrong way feel free to highlight my ignorance.



 thanks in advance


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Re: [cfaussie] Session Sharing on Cloud Cluster

2011-12-19 Thread Mark Mandel
What about turning on JSessionIDs, and use a distributed cache to store
session information in.

CF sets up the unique IDs for you, and you just use that value to store
data in your distributed cache.

Then it doesn't matter what server you are on.

Amazon has ElastiCache - should be easy enough to get going.

Mark



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 I tried this on Jelastic and it pretty much works perfectly out of the
 box.

 Here's a URL to try;
 https://mrbuzzy.jelastic.com/balance/
 It will out put various things for debugging, try it from more than one
 browser, machine, device, etc.

 Your HTTPS request will hit and 'stick' on a particular host.
 It looks like Nginx is handling the SSL decryption and 'stickiness' to one
 of many hosts.
 It also uses Tomcat clustering an session replication. The 'node' within
 the Tomcat cluster can be seen in the JSESSIONID which is used for
 'stickiness' at the Tomcat level.
 ColdFusion is seeing a non-SSL request on port 80.

 Also attaching a few screenshots.

 Cheers.

 On 20 December 2011 12:09, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote:

 That could work,

 Thanks

 Regards
 Dale Fraser

 http://dale.fraser.id.au
 http://cfmldocs.com
 http://learncf.com
 http://flexcf.com


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  Yeah,
 
  I considered that too, I'll have to search the code base and see how
 widely
  we use them

 or do the client  session trick. Copy to client scope to session in
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Xmas Get-together: Thursday Dec 16th 2011.

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Mandel
Yep, I'll be there, but we'll see if i'm there dead on 6 pm, quite likely
I'll be there closer to 6:30.

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 Bugger!  I meant the 15th, thanks Mark, are you coming along?

 Peter

 On Dec 13, 10:30 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
  Did you mean the 15th?
 
  The 16th is the Friday isn't it?
 
  Mark
 
  On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Peter Robertson 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote:
   Come and share a drink, a laugh and a feed with us to celebrate yet
   another year of all things MAD.  We will be drawing the software prize
   for the second half of the year also.  Chances are ranked based upon
   attendance and contributions during the past six months.
 
   There will be a tab to cover some basics and then we'll pay
   individually as we go.
 
   Date: Thursday 16 Dec 2011
   Time: 6:00 PM
   Location:
   Top floor
   The Carlton,www.thecarlton.com.au
   193 Burke St (One block up from CogState)
   Melbourne, VIC, 3000
 
   If you can't find us, ask at the bar, we'll make sure they know where
   we are.
 
   Thanks to Phil and Mr Buzzy for the detailed research that made this
   event possible :)
 
   Please let us know if you're coming so we have some idea of the
   numbers.
 
   Peter Robertson
 
   Co-Manager
   Melbourne Adobe Developers
 
   Steve Onnis
 
   Manager
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Xmas Get-together: Thursday Dec 16th 2011.

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Mandel
Just you and me Peter :)

Good. I'm hungry :D

Mark

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peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can we get a head-count please?

 Who's coming who hasn't posted back yet?  Please let us know.

 Cheers


 Peter

 On Dec 13, 8:06 pm, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Come and share a drink, a laugh and a feed with us to celebrate yet
  another year of all things MAD.  We will be drawing the software prize
  for the second half of the year also.  Chances are ranked based upon
  attendance and contributions during the past six months.
 
  There will be a tab to cover some basics and then we'll pay
  individually as we go.
 
  Date: Thursday 16 Dec 2011
  Time: 6:00 PM
  Location:
  Top floor
  The Carlton,www.thecarlton.com.au
  193 Burke St (One block up from CogState)
  Melbourne, VIC, 3000
 
  If you can't find us, ask at the bar, we'll make sure they know where
  we are.
 
  Thanks to Phil and Mr Buzzy for the detailed research that made this
  event possible :)
 
  Please let us know if you're coming so we have some idea of the
  numbers.
 
  Peter Robertson
 
  Co-Manager
  Melbourne Adobe Developers
 
  Steve Onnis
 
  Manager
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Xmas Get-together: Thursday Dec 16th 2011.

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Mandel
On my way shortly, running even later than I expected.

Mark

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 Sorry folks, I have already been into the city twice today and just
 can't manage to drag myself in a third time.

 Have fun though.

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Re: [cfaussie] MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Xmas Get-together: Thursday Dec 16th 2011.

2011-12-13 Thread Mark Mandel
Did you mean the 15th?

The 16th is the Friday isn't it?

Mark

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Peter Robertson 
peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote:

 Come and share a drink, a laugh and a feed with us to celebrate yet
 another year of all things MAD.  We will be drawing the software prize
 for the second half of the year also.  Chances are ranked based upon
 attendance and contributions during the past six months.

 There will be a tab to cover some basics and then we'll pay
 individually as we go.

 Date: Thursday 16 Dec 2011
 Time: 6:00 PM
 Location:
 Top floor
 The Carlton, www.thecarlton.com.au
 193 Burke St (One block up from CogState)
 Melbourne, VIC, 3000

 If you can't find us, ask at the bar, we'll make sure they know where
 we are.

 Thanks to Phil and Mr Buzzy for the detailed research that made this
 event possible :)

 Please let us know if you're coming so we have some idea of the
 numbers.

 Peter Robertson

 Co-Manager
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 Steve Onnis

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Builder Opinions

2011-11-23 Thread Mark Mandel
I have to say - this week I started working in IntelliJ again, just to see
how it was going with the new 11 release coming out.

I am really, really, really liking it.

It definitely has some rough edges, and it's been a bit of a learning
curve, but man is it FAST, and it does some really nice stuff around
component path completion and the like.

Worth having a poke at if you're not satisfied with Builder.

Mark

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peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, you go into Search / Find in Files (top menu), create and select a
 Working Set to point to a path, provide a string, hit search, and then
 under the search tab in the lower right panel, you get a tree
 structure with a drillable list of hits.  You double click on a hit
 and it opens the file, locates the corresponding location in the file
 and highlights the hit.  I don't find it that different to Homsite
 from what I can remember.  Also, up and down arrows in the top of the
 search panel position the cursor on prev/next hit within the file and
 then across files.

 I think it's all right.

 Peter Robertson

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  Does anyone else thing that CFBuilder is a bucket of bolts?
 
  For me:-
 
  -  The search is just useless really.  If you search for
 something
  in a project, it would be much more useful if you could drill down into
 the
  line in the file where the search instance appears instead of having to
 hunt
  through the file
 
  -  Searching in the file you are working on/have open is flakey.
  I
  always get a No file open message and im like WTF?  I have to select a
  different source and then choose the Current document option again for
 it to
  work.
 
  -  There is no direction option for the search which means if you
  want to search the whole document you have to scroll to the top of the
  document for it to search the whole thing
 
  -  You have to open a new search box for every file you have
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Re: [cfaussie] MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers meeting for Thursday November 24th 2011

2011-11-22 Thread Mark Mandel
Hey guys,

Unfortunately this week has been crazy catch up week after the conference,
so I won't be able to make it :(

Sucks! I really wanted to be there, but I'm just not going to be able to
fit it in.

Mark

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Paul Kukiel kuki...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll be there with one of the guys from the office aswell Bill.

 Paul.


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 peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote:

 CFObjective: Highlights and Takeaways

 We had been going to try to piggy-back MAD on CFObjective this year
 but it proved a bit difficult, so instead we're moving to the Thursday
 following (the 24th) and will be doing a re-cap of CFObjective
 highlights and take-aways from those of us attending.

 If you've looked at the program (http://cfobjective.com.au/program)
 you'll see that it's both rich and varied, so I expect we'll have lots
 to share with you.

 Gavin Baumanis, Phil Haeusler and (of course) Mark Mandel are
 attending and speaking and I am also attending so we'll be going
 around the table and talking about what we each found most interesting
 and useful.  Anybody else who is attending is welcome to come along
 and contribute.

 Date: Thursday 24 November 2011
 Time: 6:30 PM
 Location:
 CogState
 Level 2
 255 Bourke Street
 Melbourne, VIC, 3000

 A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access.
 RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we
 know how many pizzas to order.

 As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their
 hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there.

 Peter Robertson

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[cfaussie] 2 Developers Down Under Podcast

2011-10-24 Thread Mark Mandel
Hey guys,

Blatant self promotion here :)

Just wanted to make sure people are aware that Kai Koenig and are doing a
podcast on ColdFusion, Flex and various technologies, with a specific focus
on the ANZ region.

You can find it here:
http://www.2ddu.com/

The 15th episode should be out shortly and we'll also be doing a live
recording Wednesday night at cf.Objective(ANZ) + Flex as well (
http://www.cfobjective.com.au/program )

We've had some great episodes, including ones on testing, agile, javascript
frameworks, all sorts of good stuff.

Anyway, thought I would share in case anyone is looking for some more audio
listening :)

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Re: [cfaussie] REMINDER: Please RSVP. MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Thursday 20 October 2011.

2011-10-19 Thread Mark Mandel
I'm a definite maybe. All depends on how some deployments tomorrow go.

Great topics though!

Mark

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Paul Kukiel kuki...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll be there.

 Paul


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 peter.r.robert...@gmail.com wrote:

 Our next MAD covers The Cloud  Jira.

 Please RSVP to this list so that we can cater.
 Details are available at
 http://mad.groups.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=post.displaypostid=38973

 Peter Robertson


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Re: [cfaussie] Re: REMINDER: Please RSVP. MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers Thursday 20 October 2011.

2011-10-19 Thread Mark Mandel
Yeah, I won't make it either.

[?]

Mark

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 At the pub?

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 Regards

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 http://cfmldocs.com

 http://learncf.com

 http://flexcf.com

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 Nope, can't make it, gotta work late :(

 


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Re: [cfaussie] CFBuilder and FlashBuilder license

2011-10-05 Thread Mark Mandel
Really good question.

Possible option:
http://www.adobe.com/ap/aboutadobe/volumelicensing/

Maybe check out the partners. If that's a bust, let me know, and I'll see if
I can find out anything through the ACP program.
http://www.adobe.com/au/purchase/

Daemon's a registered reseller, as well yeah?

Mark

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[cfaussie] ColdFusion Server and Builder Survey

2011-09-25 Thread Mark Mandel
Hey guys,

Got asked to pass this on:

*Dear Adobe ColdFusion user,*
*
*
*Adobe is conducting a survey to measure your satisfaction with Adobe
ColdFusion and ColdFusion Builder™. Your feedback will help us make
ColdFusion an even better product. The survey should take no more than 15
minutes. Your personal information will be kept completely confidential.*
*
*
*Thank you for contributing to building a great product.*
*
*
*Regards,*
*The Adobe Team*


http://direct.adobe.com/v?xnlTclnEcPPJHq

Although, as per usual, the competition they are running is open to the US
and Canada only :(

Adobe is asking that this is kept off facebook  twitter, just so as to make
sure to restrict it to current ColdFusion users, and not the wider world.

Cheers,

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers meeting for Thursday 22 September 2011.

2011-09-22 Thread Mark Mandel
You know.. if you are coming to cf.Objective(ANZ) + Flex, Gavin is doing
this exact presentation there as well :D

Mark

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers meeting for Thursday 22 September 2011.

2011-09-22 Thread Mark Mandel
I am coming, but looks like I'll be running a bit late.

Mark

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 Good one. That means I'll get the refined edition too :)

 Time to go beat the crap out of that money fairy and book I guess. :)

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  You know.. if you are coming to cf.Objective(ANZ) + Flex, Gavin is doing
  this exact presentation there as well :D
 
  Mark
 
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Re: [cfaussie] MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers meeting for Thursday 22 September 2011.

2011-09-21 Thread Mark Mandel
I expect I will be there as well :)

Mark

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Paul Kukiel kuki...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll be there.

 Paul Kukiel

 On 20/09/2011, at 7:15 PM, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Unit Testing with MX Unit and Continuous Integration with ANT and
  Jenkins CI: Gavin Baumanis
 
  Kent Beck said;
  “Test driven development is a way of managing fear during
  programming.”
 
  He goes on to say that;
  • “Fear makes you tentative,
  • Fear makes you want to communicate less,
  • Fear makes you shy away from feedback.“
 
  Test Driven Development (TDD) allows us take steps towards controlling
  of all of these things.
 
  Gavin will show the pros and cons of Unit testing - and why he thinks
  you simply must write tests for your code.
 
  MX Unit is a ColdFusion port of the popular java testing framework,
  jUnit.
  Gavin will show you how to;
  * write
  * run your unit tests
 
  He'll also go into how to integrate your testing suite with ANT and
  the Jenkins CI platform to automate the testing of your code.
  So you'll be able to;
  * run your tests on command
  * run your tests every time you commit new code to your version
  control system
 
  and lastly,
  * deploy your tested code to a server.
 
  Gavin Baumanis :
 
  Melbourne Native who has been using ColdFusion since 4.00 when he
  inherited an application at RMIT University that was used to display
  spatial / usage / department information for the universities 15,000
  floors.
  Currently, he is the Senior Application Developer at PalCare, a
  company that provides web-based patient management software for the
  palliative care industry.
  He is also the Patch Manager for Apache Subversion project and spends
  his spare time looking for long-winding roads on his motorcycle.
 
  Date: Thursday 22 September  2011
  Time: 6:30 PM
  Location:
  CogState
  Level 2
  255 Bourke Street
  Melbourne, VIC, 3000
 
  A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access.
  RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we
  know how many pizzas to order.
 
  As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their
  hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there.
 
  Peter Robertson
 
  Co-Manager
  Melbourne Adobe Developers
 
  Steve Onnis
  Manager
  Melbourne Adobe Developers
 
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Re: [cfaussie] MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers meeting for Thursday 22 September 2011.

2011-09-21 Thread Mark Mandel
Nice alliteration.

Sent from my mobile doohickey.
On Sep 21, 2011 9:31 PM, MrBuzzy mrbu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I intend to attend.

 On 21/09/2011, at 4:44 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:

 I expect I will be there as well :)

 Mark

 On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Paul Kukiel kuki...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'll be there.

 Paul Kukiel

 On 20/09/2011, at 7:15 PM, Peter Robertson peter.r.robert...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Unit Testing with MX Unit and Continuous Integration with ANT and
  Jenkins CI: Gavin Baumanis
 
  Kent Beck said;
  “Test driven development is a way of managing fear during
  programming.”
 
  He goes on to say that;
  • “Fear makes you tentative,
  • Fear makes you want to communicate less,
  • Fear makes you shy away from feedback.“
 
  Test Driven Development (TDD) allows us take steps towards controlling
  of all of these things.
 
  Gavin will show the pros and cons of Unit testing - and why he thinks
  you simply must write tests for your code.
 
  MX Unit is a ColdFusion port of the popular java testing framework,
  jUnit.
  Gavin will show you how to;
  * write
  * run your unit tests
 
  He'll also go into how to integrate your testing suite with ANT and
  the Jenkins CI platform to automate the testing of your code.
  So you'll be able to;
  * run your tests on command
  * run your tests every time you commit new code to your version
  control system
 
  and lastly,
  * deploy your tested code to a server.
 
  Gavin Baumanis :
 
  Melbourne Native who has been using ColdFusion since 4.00 when he
  inherited an application at RMIT University that was used to display
  spatial / usage / department information for the universities 15,000
  floors.
  Currently, he is the Senior Application Developer at PalCare, a
  company that provides web-based patient management software for the
  palliative care industry.
  He is also the Patch Manager for Apache Subversion project and spends
  his spare time looking for long-winding roads on his motorcycle.
 
  Date: Thursday 22 September 2011
  Time: 6:30 PM
  Location:
  CogState
  Level 2
  255 Bourke Street
  Melbourne, VIC, 3000
 
  A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access.
  RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we
  know how many pizzas to order.
 
  As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their
  hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there.
 
  Peter Robertson
 
  Co-Manager
  Melbourne Adobe Developers
 
  Steve Onnis
  Manager
  Melbourne Adobe Developers
 
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Re: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Developer Week

2011-09-12 Thread Mark Mandel
I'll be presenting at 6 am wednesday morning on Coldfusion frameworks, if
anyone is an early riser and wants to tune in.

Mark

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 seasoned ColdFusion experts who will cover a wide range of topics from
 what ColdFusion is, how to code it, all the way through to more in
 depth topics such as ORM and ColdFusion Builder Extensions. If you are
 a new developer, someone with little or no ColdFusion experience, or
 even if you have been using ColdFusion all your life, this event is
 ideal for you. The ColdFusion Developer Week provides something for
 everyone, so sign up now!

 http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/event/index.cfm?event=detailid=1489920


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Re: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Developer Week

2011-09-12 Thread Mark Mandel
6am does exist. I do see it on occasion.

Mark

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.auwrote:

 There is a 6am now??

 ** **

 *From:* Mark Mandel [mailto:mark.man...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 September 2011 8:45 AM
 *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Developer Week

 ** **

 I'll be presenting at 6 am wednesday morning on Coldfusion frameworks, if
 anyone is an early riser and wants to tune in.

 Mark

 Sent from my mobile doohickey.

 On Sep 13, 2011 8:37 AM, Chris Velevitch chris.velevi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  ColdFusion Developer Week is a series of free, live webinars hosted by
  seasoned ColdFusion experts who will cover a wide range of topics from
  what ColdFusion is, how to code it, all the way through to more in
  depth topics such as ORM and ColdFusion Builder Extensions. If you are
  a new developer, someone with little or no ColdFusion experience, or
  even if you have been using ColdFusion all your life, this event is
  ideal for you. The ColdFusion Developer Week provides something for
  everyone, so sign up now!
 
  http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/event/index.cfm?event=detailid=1489920
 
 
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: Amazon EC2 hosting services viability

2011-09-08 Thread Mark Mandel
Amazon doesn't lose your data on restart if you use EBS...

Mark

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Paul Kukiel kuki...@gmail.com wrote:

 Steve Take a look at Rackspace cloud options.  I've been looking at them
 and chatting with Phil and they are also really good value for money and
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: Amazon EC2 hosting services viability

2011-09-08 Thread Mark Mandel
Yeah, to replace an entire hosting setup, it may not be cost effective. But
for specific applications, it can make a lot of sense when you look at the
wider functionality available.

If you are looking at massive dips and spikes in traffic - you can't go past
being about to expand and collapse in the cloud (Elastic Load Balancer).
If you are going to do massive asynchronous batch processing of data off and
on - spot instances make a lot of sense here.
You need a CDN - cloudfront makes a lot of sense, building your own would
suck
Massive MySQL replication - RDS can make a lot of sense (although their
performance on mySQL isn't crash hot in my experience).
If you want to split up your application into lots of micro boxes that each
have their own tasks - SQS and Micro Instances, are awesome. (Trickier to do
this on traditional architectures).

The list goes on.

It's pretty neat set of tools, but if you were to look at it as a straight
'I have a server here, vs I have a server somewhere in the sky', it
doesn't necessarily match up.

Mark

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Josh Wines j...@joshwines.com wrote:

 **
 Don't forget to also look into Amazon's 'Reserved Instance' pricing as that
 is a much more cost effective solution when running instances, especially
 24/7.


 On 09/08/2011 04:21 PM, Andrew Scott wrote:

 Steve, I have to agree with where you are coming from. When you compare
 physical to virtual, it does seem very expensive to run.

  But I also understand the benefits that Virtual gives you as well, and I
 am with you in that I am not sure that for small and I refer to you as small
 in the space of it all, could justify the cost of Cloud Computing.


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 Yes paying by the hour is great but when you are using them as
 production instances which need to be up 24/7 then the paying by the
 hour doesn't really come into it.

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: Amazon EC2 hosting services viability

2011-09-08 Thread Mark Mandel
Well, you can use RDS or Oracle offerings.

But if you have an EBS based AMI, what is the issue there? It's persistent
between restarts in my experience (I tend to only host websites on them, not
DBs)

I rebooted our stage server yesterday, and it came back just fine with
everything on it.

So? Colour me confused?

Mark

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 Sure but its not just simply setup and your database is persistent you need
 to offload to EBS at intervals or snap shot the instance.  Where as
 rackspace is more like a typical VPS/colo machine just in an
 elastic environment.

 I'm just saying this is something to consider when making the move

 Paul

 On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:

 Amazon doesn't lose your data on restart if you use EBS...

 Mark


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 Steve Take a look at Rackspace cloud options.  I've been looking at them
 and chatting with Phil and they are also really good value for money and
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[cfaussie] Student Ticket Competition for cf.Objective(ANZ) + Flex

2011-09-07 Thread Mark Mandel
Sorry for the plug, but in case people aren't aware, we are running a
competition for a current ANZ Student to win free flights, accommodation and
a ticket to cf.Objective(ANZ) + Flex.

Entry is a pretty simple 200 word entry, so nothing too crazy! Rules can be
found here:
http://cfobjective.com.au/news/student-ticket-accommodation-and-flights-give-away

I think it will be a pretty good opportunity for a young student to get some
great real-world tech industry perspective at a young age.

If you know any students or educational institutions, please feel free to
pass on these details, the more entries the better! :)

Thanks!

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Re: [cfaussie] MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers meeting for Thursday 18 August 2011. COLDSPRING

2011-08-15 Thread Mark Mandel
I'll probably be there as well :)

Sent from my mobile doohickey.
On Aug 15, 2011 7:52 PM, Phil Haeusler philhaeus...@gmail.com wrote:
 HI Peter

 I'll be there. See you Thursday

 Phil


 On 15/08/11 10:58 AM, Peter Robertson wrote:
 This month's presentation is from Mark Mandel.

 ColdSpring 2.0 Alpha 1 - What's New and Improved?

 ColdSpring 2.0, codenamed Narwhal, has been in development for over a
 year now, with an array of new and improved features being brewed in
 the background.
 With the release of Alpha 1 of this framework, these features have
 become available to developers to take advantage of.
 This presentation will give you an overview and examples of each of
 the major new features of ColdSpring 2, including enhanced dependency
 injection, custom namespaces, ORM integration and AOP enhancements
 and much more.

 Mark Mandel is a full time consultant and lead developer on several
 open source projects, most notably ColdSpring, JavaLoader, Transfer
 ORM and ColdDoc and has been has been working with ColdFusion for a
 number of years, including at his very own dot com back in the late
 90's.

 Mark can often be found blogging at www.compoundtheory.com, which has
 housed his thoughts on ColdFusion, Java and various aspects of
 software development for several years. He can also be found as a
 regular poster on ColdFusion mailing lists, causing havoc in the
 #coldfusion channel on Dalnet irc network and podcasting on www.2ddu.com.

 When he's not too busy writing open source software and consulting he
 enjoys spending his extra time training martial arts in a wide variety
 of disciplines and reading way too much fantasy literature.

 Date: Thursday 18 August 2011
 Time: 6:30 PM
 Location:
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 Level 2
 255 Bourke Street
 Melbourne, VIC, 3000

 A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access.
 RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we
 know how many pizzas to order.

 As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their
 hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there.

 Peter Robertson

 Co-Manager
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Re: [cfaussie] Helms and Peters are back at it again...

2011-08-10 Thread Mark Mandel
Thanks for the plug! :)

Kai is away at the moment, but we'll be back at it when he gets back.

Mark

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 5:15 PM, AJ Mercer ajmer...@gmail.com wrote:

 ... and don't forget about the 2 devs from down under
 http://www.2ddu.com/


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 there's a lot of good stuff that these guys touch on using motorbikes,
 cooking, woodworking as vehicles to make the point.

 Ideas that are worthwhile in application development, analyst skills,
 project management, etc.

 Defiantly worth the half an hour or so to listen to.

 If ppl haven't heard the podcasts (including the back catalog) then
 do yourself  a favour and ... as Molly Meldrum used to say...


 On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com
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  I guess it says the same about me then :)
  Indeed, my iTunes had already downloaded the episode... I just hadn't
  checked new content for a few days. Glad they're back!
 
  On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Gavin Baumanis beauecli...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I'm not sure what it exactly it says about me
  But...
 
  I was really excited to open iTunes today and find that Hal Helms and
  Jeff Peters have resurrected their long running podcast, Helms and
  Peters Out Loud.
 
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: How to load balance

2011-08-09 Thread Mark Mandel
Actually, they said they were using session scope - if your users suddenly
ramp up, then that could easily explain the memory leak.

Is there anything you could consolidate into a single in memory store in the
application scope, rather than having it for every user?

Mark

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 You might want to look into using something other than the CF
 application scope to cache objects (assuming that's what you're
 using). We've had pretty good experience using memcached. Though with
 ehcache now integrated in CF, I'd probably be looking at that
 instead.

 Other than that, definitely look at JVM tuning. I'd agree - get
 someone else who knows it well to help you through that. It will save
 a lot of guesswork and you'll learn a lot through the process.

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  Hi All,
 
  I am new to the group and was hoping someone can help me with a
  solution to the following; we have created an application using java
  and cold fusion; we do create a lot of Java objects that we hold in
  memory at the session level. We are getting an out of memory error;
  basically the heap space fills up; server slows to the point that it
  crashes.
 
  First thought is we have a memory leak; I am using jconsole, nice
  graphs but what is it really telling me; if anyone knows of a
  monitoring tool that will help me see if we have memory that is not
  being cleared that should be and what that memory is; would be
  appreciated?
 
  Second thought is we designed the application to hold a lot in memory
  to save time hitting the db; I wonder if we are just under resourced.
  We are running CF 8,0,1,195765 STD, Java 1.6.0_04, on a Windows 2003
  32bit Svr. I do have a second server available; does anyone have
  instructions on how to setup load balancing so that I can have two
  servers sharing the load?
 
  Any help would be most appreciated?
 
  Many Thanks,
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Re: [cfaussie] Converting boolean YES to true

2011-08-04 Thread Mark Mandel
#(value ? true : false )#

There you go.

CF is dynamic, so true is YES is 1... if you want static values, use a
static language. There are pros and cons both ways.

Mark

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Barry Beattie barry.beat...@gmail.comwrote:

 so, what's !YES  ... is it NO?

 is anything that can be construed as a YES (True, 1, etc) considered a
 YES and therefore the opposite is NO?





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  TBH you would have to fix it yourself, I can't see Adobe fixing it soon
 as
  it is likely a legacy issue, I would imagine if they change how it works
 to
  the way we expect it should, any code using specifically the old
 behaviour
  would error ... so they are probably stuck till they can agree on an
 elegant
  solution or give clients enough warning...
 
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Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion, Tomcat, IIS7 question

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Mandel
To ask a stupid question - how come you are doing this?

Mark

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 1:28 PM, nkosi glenrainb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 We're in the process of preparing for the CF, Tomcat, IIS7 stack for
 our intranet. We have followed numerous blog postings around the
 electric interwebnet and they have helped to a degree, however ...

 Currently we have multiserver CF, JRun, IIS6.

 And this is how this looks ...

 JRun/CF ...

 c:\Jrun4\servers\Application1\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war\
 c:\Jrun4\servers\Application2\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war\
 c:\Jrun4\servers\Application3\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war\
 c:\Jrun4\servers\Application4\cfusion.ear\cfusion.war\

 IIS points to our sites code like this ...

 c:\Sites\Application1\
 c:\Sites\Application2\
 c:\Sites\Application3\
 c:\Sites\Application4\

 wsconfig associates IIS site to JRun server.

 So our sites are browsable like this ...

 http://application1.something.whatever/
 http://application2.something.whatever/
 http://application3.something.whatever/
 http://application4.something.whatever/

 CF Admin is browsable like this ...

 http://serverName:Application1_Port/cfide/administrator/
 http://serverName:Application2_Port/cfide/administrator/
 http://serverName:Application3_Port/cfide/administrator/
 http://serverName:Application4_Port/cfide/administrator/

 Brilliant, nice bit of separation ... Site isn't browsable via the
 JRun port and CF Admin isn't browsable vie the IIS site.

 We want to maintain this type of separation in our ColdFusion/Tomcat/
 IIS7 stack.

 We have set up 'multiserver' Tomcat but we cannot figure out how we
 can get our CF sites to run without requiring WEB-INF [and CFIDE] in
 the root of our sites. This basically means our CF Admin is browsable
 via our web site which is not what we want. It may also mean we have
 to consider how we rollout our site code given there will already be 2
 folders in the site root.

 Firstly - I hope this makes sense.

 Secondly - any ideas how we can replicate our JRun/CF configuration on
 Tomcat/CF?

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion, Tomcat, IIS7 question

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Mandel
Yeah - but what is the end goal? Why bother changing if JRUN is meeting your
needs?

Mark

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 Also, since it was possible with JRun then it would be nice to
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Re: [cfaussie] ColdFusion, Tomcat, IIS7 question

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Mandel
Fair enough - but spending 2/3 days of dev/sysadmin time doing some resource
savings vs buying some new ram, doesn't seem like good ROI to me, unless
there is a specific goal. (Or you have a LOT of servers)

But hey - don't let me stop you, just figured it was worth asking the
question.

Mark

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 I personally find that CF on Tomcat uses less resources than CF on JRun.
 Very generally spoken though.

 K

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion, Tomcat, IIS7 question

2011-08-03 Thread Mark Mandel
I'd be pretty shocked if Adobe doesn't make configuring CF10 + Tomcat a
whole lot easier than doing all the steps for CF9 + Tomcat.

So you may be wasting your time. Also, CF9 isn't supported on Tomcat, so you
may be voiding any support contracts you may have.

But hey - if you're having fun :) all the more enjoyment for ya.

Mark

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 Given that CF10 is reportedly dropping JRun for Tomcat and we have
 resources available to us right now we thought we would explore the
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Re: [cfaussie] REMINDER : Melbourne Adobe Developers next meeting, 21st July 2011, presentation details

2011-07-21 Thread Mark Mandel
Unfortunately I can't make it. Have fun without me! :)

Mark

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Paul Kukiel kuki...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'll be there.

 Paul K


 On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.auwrote:

 Here are the full details for this Thursday's presentation.
 *** Remember, please RSVP if you're attending so that we can arrange
 catering. ***

 Presentation 1: Ayudh Nagara

 Topic: Web Widgets
 * What, Why, How?
 * The widget business model
 * Basic framework and tools
 * Getting around the AJAX same origin rule
 * Demo

 Ayudh Nagara is co-founder and director of Xilo Online, a web and
 mobile payment gateway provider. He has been using ColdFusion since
 Version 2, and ColdFusion remains the primary application server for
 this business, as well as other web application projects he has worked
 on over the years.

 Prior to that, Ayudh worked for IBM for over 25 years in a number of
 technical, sales and management roles.

 Ayudh's current area of interest and continued learning is in the fast
 growing area of rich UI's and front-end web application development
 covering AJAX, JSON, jQuery, DHTML, CSS and Javascript.


 Presentation 2: Phil Haeusler

 Topic: Multi-Device Mobile Development

 See how simple it is to use Flash Builder to build apps for Apple,
 Android and Blackberry Playbook devices. Using the Flex Mobile
 components and Adobe AIR, we'll cover the work flow of developing a
 multi-device app from the setting up of an empty project to deploying
 the app on multiple-devices and publishing to the Apple, Android and
 Blackberry online stores.

 And to prove that it's not all smoke and mirrors, we'll build a social
 app that can be deployed to mobile devices at the user group.

 Phil is an independent software consultant who codes for food. Often
 found using ColdFusion, Flex and the greater Adobe product stack, Phil
 advocates best practice approaches to development methodologies,
 testing and deployment security. He is a long time RocketBoots partner
 and CodeWar quizmaster.

 Date: Thursday 21 July 2011
 Time: 6:30 PM
 Location:
 CogState
 Level 2
 255 Bourke Street
 Melbourne, VIC, 3000

 A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access.
 RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we
 know how many pizzas to order.

 As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their
 hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there.

 Peter Robertson

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Re: [cfaussie] CFBuilder2 and Version Control

2011-07-15 Thread Mark Mandel
Yeah, anything that works with Eclipse should work with CFB.

That being said, I always install CFB as a plugin, rather than the
standalone, just to be sure.

When using Git - there is eGit, although I don't think it's anything crazy
special, and only really use it to see changed files, and do a quick compare
against HEAD.

I've been using Git from the command line for ages now, and I wouldn't look
back.

Mark

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 Perhaps I am missing something (and if so please enlighten me) but
 there seems to be very little info out there on what works well with
 CFB2. Do I just treat it as Eclipse in my searches and assume anything
 that works in Eclipse will be fine for CFB2?




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Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFBuilder2 and Version Control

2011-07-15 Thread Mark Mandel
Last time I used Git on windows, I did it from within cygwin. Worked pretty
well.

Mark

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 I'm pretty happy working from a command line so I might look into GIT
 a bit more. I understood it wasn't brilliant in a Windows environment
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFBuilder2 and Version Control

2011-07-15 Thread Mark Mandel
From what I understand, the tooling in Hg, kicks butt over Git. But I think
95% of Git users use the command line.

Also - GitHub, GitHib, GitHub. If you use ANY open source project, and it's
on there, and you have any form of code contribution, I cannot express how
easy it makes it to do this. it's stupid.

Mark



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 On 15/07/2011 17:30, Rawdyn wrote:

 Thanks everyone, great info.

 ...

 I'm pretty happy working from a command line so I might look into GIT
 a bit more. I understood it wasn't brilliant in a Windows environment
 (based on what I have been told only) so I'll re-investigate that.


 We moved from Subversion to Mercurial as we are a Windows shop and git was
 fairly pathetic with its GUI tools (that was a while back though).

 Both work well with Eclipse but we prefer to use TortoiseHg for our version
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Re: [cfaussie] CFBuilder2 and Version Control

2011-07-15 Thread Mark Mandel
For git there is also the community book -
http://book.git-scm.com/

and the Pro Git book as well:
http://progit.org/

All content for both is freely available.

Mark

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 1:12 AM, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org
 wrote:

 Nice writeup, Dennis. Thanks.

 For those who may now be more interested in Mercurial, I’ll throw in as
 well that good ol’ Joel Spolsky has a tutorial site for Mercurial:
 http://hginit.com/.

 And just as there was the re-bean book for SVN (
 http://svnbook.red-bean.com/), there is one for hg also:
 http://hgbook.red-bean.com/  (These are both actually O’Reilly books,
 available free online at those sites, or can be purchased in print of
 course.)

 BTW, if one wonders about all the references to hg in mercurial and related
 sites, it’s a geeky pun: hg is the symbol in periodic chart for mercury. :-)

 /charlie

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 *Subject:* Re: [cfaussie] CFBuilder2 and Version Control

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 I have MercurialEclipse 1.8, EGit 1.0, and Subclipse 1.6 all working with
 CFBuilder 2 as a plugin install against Eclipse 3.6. No serious problems
 with them so far, but frankly I only use the plugins for basic operations
 and rely on separate tools for more advanced work.

 ** **

 The lack of documentation on compatibility of source control plugins with
 CFB2 is because they are generic Eclipse plugins and don't interact with
 CFB2-specific features.

 ** **

 I've been using Pulse to manage my Eclipse profiles for a few years now.
 CFB1 was incompatible with Pulse, but CFB2 is compatible so I installed CFB2
 as a plugin for a Pulse-managed Eclipse profile. I love the snip

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-13 Thread Mark Mandel
Zac,

Big pat on the back for you for sticking through this, and seeing if the
problem can be resolved. Not many people would go as far as you, so kudos to
you!

Mark

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 back to the hanging problem, the good news is my swear jar just got richer,
 but I managed to capture a thread dump :) which I have sent thru to Sagar

 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Brian Knott bkn...@jbk.com.au wrote:
  Got it thanks Charlie.
 
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 Behalf
  Of charlie arehart
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  Subject: RE: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
 
  Brian, that's indeed a frequent question. If you just google for
 coldfusion
  builder wrap you'll find several explanations of how to enable it,
 including
  my hidden gems in CF talk (on CFB1, most of which still applies to CFB2
 so
  worth a read for those who haven't seen it).
 
  Or are you saying you've tried that feature and it doesn't work for you,
  perhaps?
 
  /charlie
 
 
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  Any idea how to get CF builder to wrap text?
 
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-01 Thread Mark Mandel
Zac - you didn't answer my question about how big the file you were editing
was?

Mark

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 so i even tried a new workspace, same issues, the it hung again, now it
 won't even start, I'm fed up - I just want to cut code

 now I'm in a total quandry on whether to fork out money to buy the
 software as my trial expires today and I've had so much grief

 On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Kai Koenig k...@koeni.de wrote:
  Hey all,
 
  Sagar, thanks so much for responding to this thread.
 
  Just to let everyone else on the list know, Sagar is part of the CF and
 CF Builder engineering team based in Bangalore.
 
  Cheers
  Kai
 
 
  A few of you are facing some performance related issues, here are my
  suggestions:
 
  After installing CFBuilder please read the Post_Install_Readme.txt
  file located under the CFBuilder install directory.
 
  Can you start CFBuilder (standalone) or Eclipse (plugin install) from
  the command line with an option -consolelog to see if any error
  messages are shown.
 
  When the workbench is launched Eclipse asks the user to specify a
  workspace location, the default workspace location is specified in the
  textbox (this is eclipse behavior). As Charlie pointed out the
  progress view can come handy and tasks which are running in the IDE
  can be observed.
 
  Thanks,
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  Fusioned with ColdFusion - www.sagarganatra.com
 
 
 
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-07-01 Thread Mark Mandel
What happens if you attempt to access the files locally?

When you say 5-10k you mean kilobytes, not 5-10 thousand lines?

Mark

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Zac Spitzer zac.spit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm working over a network drive on the lan, I guess that might be the
 problem.

 All of the files I'm editing are only are small, most like 5-10k a few
 approaching
 20k, which is just mostly some chunky sql gateways cfc's

 I have the console open, see what happens, maybe I will see the
 heisenberg effect

 I tried the progress window, but it locked up with everything else

 BTW thanks everyone for taking the time to help out :)





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  Do you have any projects setup that were pointed to files across a
 network
  and if so do you know if those projects are currently open?  I know i
 have
  had issues with projects across a network opening slowly and seemingly
  crashing cfbuilder.  I would suggest just opening it and leaving it it
  trying to open for a little bit rather than thinking it has crashed and
  forcing it to close
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kai Koenig [mailto:k...@koeni.de]
  Sent: Friday, 1 July 2011 6:03 PM
  To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Re: CFbuilder2 thoughts?
 
  Zac, maybe try Sagar's suggestion to start with consolelog and see if it
  tells you what the error/problem is.
 
  Cheers
  Kai
 
 
  On 1/07/2011, at 7:44 PM, Zac Spitzer wrote:
 
  so i even tried a new workspace, same issues, the it hung again, now it
  won't even start, I'm fed up - I just want to cut code
 
  now I'm in a total quandry on whether to fork out money to buy the
  software as my trial expires today and I've had so much grief
 
  On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Kai Koenig k...@koeni.de wrote:
  Hey all,
 
  Sagar, thanks so much for responding to this thread.
 
  Just to let everyone else on the list know, Sagar is part of the CF and
  CF Builder engineering team based in Bangalore.
 
  Cheers
  Kai
 
 
  A few of you are facing some performance related issues, here are my
  suggestions:
 
  After installing CFBuilder please read the Post_Install_Readme.txt
  file located under the CFBuilder install directory.
 
  Can you start CFBuilder (standalone) or Eclipse (plugin install) from
  the command line with an option -consolelog to see if any error
  messages are shown.
 
  When the workbench is launched Eclipse asks the user to specify a
  workspace location, the default workspace location is specified in the
  textbox (this is eclipse behavior). As Charlie pointed out the
  progress view can come handy and tasks which are running in the IDE
  can be observed.
 
  Thanks,
  Sagar Ganatra.
  Fusioned with ColdFusion - www.sagarganatra.com
 
 
 
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Re: [cfaussie] CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-06-29 Thread Mark Mandel
How big is the file you are editing?

Mark

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Zac Spitzer zac.spit...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Mark,

 my desktop is beefy enough, it's a quad core 2.67ghz i5 with
 4gb running on win7 64-bit

 jvm settings I changed are

 -Xmx1024m
 -Xms256m
 -XX:MaxPermSize=512m

 it runs with about 270-360 mb of ram usually assigned

 I've tried turning off all the syntax checking, but that only helped a
 little bit

 z


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  I run it on a VM with 2 GB of RAM (Linux host), and 2 CPU cores out of my
  host's 4 and it runs great, no problems.
  My VM args are:
  -vmargs
  -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
  -XX:PermSize=64m
  -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5
  -Xms256m
  -Xmx1024m
  What sort of CPU do you have? I know when I had it running on a single
 CPU
  VM, it was aweful. It does so much stuff in the background, that anything
  less than 2 CPU cores will have it hanging hardcore.
  Mark
  On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Zac Spitzer zac.spit...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  How are people finding CFBuilder2?
 
  I've been using the trial for a while, even increased the memory to 1gb,
  but it really doesn't feel stable enough as a primary IDE, I'm finding
 it
  often
  locks up and even simple things like clicking search results don't
 always
  actually open the file and scroll to the first match?
 
  if there was a swear jar on my desk, it would be full
 
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Re: [cfaussie] CFbuilder2 thoughts?

2011-06-28 Thread Mark Mandel
I run it on a VM with 2 GB of RAM (Linux host), and 2 CPU cores out of my
host's 4 and it runs great, no problems.

My VM args are:
-vmargs
-XX:MaxPermSize=256m
-XX:PermSize=64m
-Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5
-Xms256m
-Xmx1024m

What sort of CPU do you have? I know when I had it running on a single CPU
VM, it was aweful. It does so much stuff in the background, that anything
less than 2 CPU cores will have it hanging hardcore.

Mark

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 How are people finding CFBuilder2?

 I've been using the trial for a while, even increased the memory to 1gb,
 but it really doesn't feel stable enough as a primary IDE, I'm finding it
 often
 locks up and even simple things like clicking search results don't always
 actually open the file and scroll to the first match?

 if there was a swear jar on my desk, it would be full

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers: Reserve this Thursday 23 June 2011

2011-06-20 Thread Mark Mandel
I'll be there :) I'm presenting :D

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Re: [cfaussie] Catching cfcomponent extends errors

2011-06-07 Thread Mark Mandel
cferror ?

Go old school :D

Mark

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:07 AM, AJ Dyka ajd...@learnosity.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I've done some searching and haven't found any answers yet so I
 figured I'd throw the question out here and see what comes back :)

 I have an Application.cfc in an app which I want to extend another
 which is accessed via a mapping like so:

 cfcomponent output=false extends=mapping.ParentApplication

 My issue is when the mapping doesn't exist it fails which is fine but
 I want to catch the error and handle it rather than just dump the
 error to the screen.

 I can't try/catch around the outside of the component and onError
 doesn't get invoked because the Application can't be initialised so I
 think I'm stuck ... any ideas?

 Thanks.

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Re: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or try

2011-05-03 Thread Mark Mandel
Yeah, but we should all be able to claim GST right? It's a work expense.

Mark

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Zac Spitzer zac.spit...@gmail.com wrote:

 actually the 407 is the ex GST price, so it's even worse. (GST downunder is
 10%)

 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yeah, I agree.
 
  The upgrade price is not as bad - AUD$148.75 (excluding GST), compared to
  USD$109.00
 
  Still a hike, given the currency atm, but at least it's not totally
  exorbitant.
 
  Mark
 
  On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Kai Koenig k...@koeni.de wrote:
 
  I'm consistently unhappy about that myself and it comes up with every
  release of anything from Adobe outside the US and the realm of the USD
  pricing. To create a fair comparison you'd have to add AU GST though,
 e.g.
  you're comparing against AUD 370 and not 407.
 
  AUD 370 is still way too expensive from a consumer's point of view
  compared to the current exchange rate (particularly because there's no
  shipping involved etc etc etc) - but keep in mind that global corporates
  have to plan with certain exchange rates for funding and budgeting
 stuff.
  Part of that can be hedged, certainly, but not all of it. It's
 particularly
  bad in AU and NZ because of the current badly unnatural strengths of our
  currencies - a AUD100 difference between the 274 and 370 is a bit steep
  though after all.
 
  I said it on Twitter recently when the CS 5.5 pricing was announced -
 for
  a few of the CS 5.5. products it's cheaper to fly from NZ (prob also
 from AU
  but I haven't checked) to LA or San Francisco, stay a night, buy CS 5.5
  there in a retail shop and come back home with the software in your
 luggage
  and pay customs and GST for it in your country. Also gives you frequent
  flyer miles, status, an included seat for a return overnight flights and
  free food :-)
 
  Obviously not worth it for only CFB 2 and the AUD100 off - but in case
  you're going to the US anyway... :)
 
  Cheers
  Kai
 
 
   the pricing is a bloody outrage
  
   $299 USD == $274 AUD, but they list it as $407 AUD
  
   FFS adobe!
  
  
   On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Scott Thornton
   scott.thorn...@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   Do you guys actually use CF builder?
  
   I use CFB every day, and have done since it first came out.
  
  
   I wanted to give proper debugging another go, installed CF builder 1
   three
   weeks ago and attempted to get started.
  
   When you say 'proper debugging', do you mean step debugging or just
   showing
   the coldfusion debug output ?
  
  
   To be fair, its an environment that I am not famaliar with, but it
   seems
   so slow, so hard to do anything in it, I have so many questions and
   can't
   find the answers.
  
   Slow doing what exactly?
  
  
   For example:
   My local test site start page is
   http://127.0.0.1/my_site/password/password.cfm, if I view this page
 in
   IE I
   can see my debugging output and know its going to the correct page
   based on
   the DSN and settings, but the FireFox or IE view ( the tabs next to
   the
   source button) open a page without debugging and I am really not
 sure
   what
   or where the data is coming from.
  
   I never use these tabs, so I have no idea ;o)
  
  
   The copy Preview URL option returns
   my_site/Password/sb_password.cfm..
   but what server? It looks like its pointing to the settings\DSN that
   retrieve my live database, rather then my test database that I want.
  
   Again, not sure - but I would expect it has to do with which server
 you
   have
   it configured to. Right click on your project, and go into the
   ColdFusion
   properties and see what the configuration settings are.
  
  
   Also I have managed to close some of the tabs within the ( lets say
   Snippets view), how do I get them back? better yet, can I reset
 the
   coldfusion perspective entirely?
  
   You can customize the ColdFusion (or any other) perspective as much
 as
   you
   would like.
  
   If you want to add any View: Window  Show View  Other
   Will give you the full list of views you can add to your perspective.
  
   If you want to reset your perspective, I believe: Window  Reset
   Perspective
   will do the job you want.
  
   HTH
  
   Mark
  
  
   Cheers,
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or try

2011-05-03 Thread Mark Mandel
Actually I say that purely in my position as a contractor. Is that true of
full time employees as well? Do you get GST back on asset purchases like
CFB?

Mark

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Re: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or try

2011-05-03 Thread Mark Mandel
Oh sorry - I totally read that wrong. You are right, that IS worse!

Mark

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 actually the 407 is the ex GST price, so it's even worse. (GST downunder is
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Re: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or try

2011-05-03 Thread Mark Mandel
To be honest - because I find that CFB is a better editor.

I haven't used CFE in ages, but I am much more productive on CFB than I ever
was on CFE.

Dmitry - have you tried CFB2?

Mark



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  Why do I need to buy CFB, if Eclipse + CFEclipse = FREE !?


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 To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 15:39:10 +1000
 Subject: Re: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or try

 the pricing is a bloody outrage

 $299 USD == $274 AUD, but they list it as $407 AUD

 FFS adobe!

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Re: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or try

2011-05-03 Thread Mark Mandel
I run a lightweight XP VM for it to run under. Not ideal, but it works.

I don't hate it as much as I thought I may.

Mark

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Im a long term CFEclipse fan and it hurts to say this but CFE doesn't have
 the code insight that I've found even in CFBuilder 1.  Stuff like
 autocompletion of var names,  SQL (awesome when you can't exactly remember
 the column name), etc.  With the new features of cfb 2, it is very hard to
 ignore.

 Mark - how do u get by with Linux?  Do you have a way of getting builder to
 run on it?

 Sent from my mobile

 On 03/05/2011, at 5:31 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:

 To be honest - because I find that CFB is a better editor.

 I haven't used CFE in ages, but I am much more productive on CFB than I
 ever was on CFE.

 Dmitry - have you tried CFB2?

 Mark



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 dmi...@yakhnov.info wrote:

  Why do I need to buy CFB, if Eclipse + CFEclipse = FREE !?


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 Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 15:39:10 +1000
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 the pricing is a bloody outrage

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Re: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or try

2011-05-03 Thread Mark Mandel
Guess it depends on how beefy their machine is :)

Mark

Sent from my mobile device.
On 03/05/2011 8:01 PM, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting. Might give it a try myself.

 A colleague of mine is keen to switch to Linux also, but he uses
 Photoshop a bit. I am guessing using such a graphics intensive app
 under a VM is not really all that pleasant though...?

 On 3 May 2011 18:27, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:
 I run a lightweight XP VM for it to run under. Not ideal, but it works.

 I don't hate it as much as I thought I may.

 Mark

 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Im a long term CFEclipse fan and it hurts to say this but CFE doesn't
have
 the code insight that I've found even in CFBuilder 1.  Stuff like
 autocompletion of var names,  SQL (awesome when you can't exactly
remember
 the column name), etc.  With the new features of cfb 2, it is very hard
to
 ignore.
 Mark - how do u get by with Linux?  Do you have a way of getting builder
 to run on it?

 Sent from my mobile
 On 03/05/2011, at 5:31 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote:

 To be honest - because I find that CFB is a better editor.

 I haven't used CFE in ages, but I am much more productive on CFB than I
 ever was on CFE.

 Dmitry - have you tried CFB2?

 Mark



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 Why do I need to buy CFB, if Eclipse + CFEclipse = FREE !?


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Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or try

2011-05-03 Thread Mark Mandel
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the new find/replace, but if you want to
do what you are talking about - simply highlight the text, and I do your
replace. I believe it works.

Usually, when doing more complex find/replace stuff, I copy what I need into
an Untitled Text File, and do it in there, and paste it back.

Mark

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Andrew am2...@gmail.com wrote:

 One feature I noticed missing from the Beta was the ability to do a
 find and replace within the scope of selected text.  (I may have
 mentioned it in the labs.adobe.com forums - can't remember now and
 they're gone so I can't check?)

 Does anyone know if such a find / replace is possible anymore?  I was
 looking for it this morning and can't find it, and I am going to find
 it a major inconvenience if this is not available.

 Maybe it's Adobe's way of telling me I have too much duplicate
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or try

2011-05-03 Thread Mark Mandel
Although - one thing I do like - the multiline search and replace. That was
something I always missed from homesite.

That is a nice addition.

Mark

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 Thanks Mark.  I agree.  I was actually very productive in the old find
 / replace and I would rather have kept it.  Maybe that will change,
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Re: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or try

2011-05-02 Thread Mark Mandel
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Scott Thornton 
scott.thorn...@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au wrote:

 Hi,

 Do you guys actually use CF builder?


I use CFB every day, and have done since it first came out.



 I wanted to give proper debugging another go, installed CF builder 1 three
 weeks ago and attempted to get started.


When you say 'proper debugging', do you mean *step debugging* or just *showing
the coldfusion debug output* ?



 To be fair, its an environment that I am not famaliar with, but it seems so
 slow, so hard to do anything in it, I have so many questions and can't find
 the answers.


Slow doing what exactly?



 For example:
 My local test site start page is
 http://127.0.0.1/my_site/password/password.cfm, if I view this page in IE
 I can see my debugging output and know its going to the correct page based
 on the DSN and settings, but the FireFox or IE view ( the tabs next to the
 source button) open a page without debugging and I am really not sure what
 or where the data is coming from.


I never use these tabs, so I have no idea ;o)


 The copy Preview URL option returns my_site/Password/sb_password.cfm..
 but what server? It looks like its pointing to the settings\DSN that
 retrieve my live database, rather then my test database that I want.


Again, not sure - but I would expect it has to do with which server you have
it configured to. Right click on your project, and go into the ColdFusion
properties and see what the configuration settings are.



 Also I have managed to close some of the tabs within the ( lets say
 Snippets view), how do I get them back? better yet, can I reset the
 coldfusion perspective entirely?


You can customize the ColdFusion (or any other) perspective as much as you
would like.

If you want to add any View: *Window  Show View  Other*
Will give you the full list of views you can add to your perspective.

If you want to reset your perspective, I believe: *Window  Reset
Perspective* will do the job you want.

HTH

Mark



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Re: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or try

2011-05-02 Thread Mark Mandel
Yeah, I agree.

The upgrade price is not as bad - AUD$148.75 (excluding GST), compared to
USD$109.00

Still a hike, given the currency atm, but at least it's not totally
exorbitant.

Mark

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Kai Koenig k...@koeni.de wrote:

 I'm consistently unhappy about that myself and it comes up with every
 release of anything from Adobe outside the US and the realm of the USD
 pricing. To create a fair comparison you'd have to add AU GST though, e.g.
 you're comparing against AUD 370 and not 407.

 AUD 370 is still way too expensive from a consumer's point of view compared
 to the current exchange rate (particularly because there's no shipping
 involved etc etc etc) - but keep in mind that global corporates have to plan
 with certain exchange rates for funding and budgeting stuff. Part of that
 can be hedged, certainly, but not all of it. It's particularly bad in AU and
 NZ because of the current badly unnatural strengths of our currencies - a
 AUD100 difference between the 274 and 370 is a bit steep though after all.

 I said it on Twitter recently when the CS 5.5 pricing was announced - for a
 few of the CS 5.5. products it's cheaper to fly from NZ (prob also from AU
 but I haven't checked) to LA or San Francisco, stay a night, buy CS 5.5
 there in a retail shop and come back home with the software in your luggage
 and pay customs and GST for it in your country. Also gives you frequent
 flyer miles, status, an included seat for a return overnight flights and
 free food :-)

 Obviously not worth it for only CFB 2 and the AUD100 off - but in case
 you're going to the US anyway... :)

 Cheers
 Kai


  the pricing is a bloody outrage
 
  $299 USD == $274 AUD, but they list it as $407 AUD
 
  FFS adobe!
 
 
  On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Scott Thornton
  scott.thorn...@hnehealth.nsw.gov.au wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Do you guys actually use CF builder?
 
  I use CFB every day, and have done since it first came out.
 
 
  I wanted to give proper debugging another go, installed CF builder 1
 three
  weeks ago and attempted to get started.
 
  When you say 'proper debugging', do you mean step debugging or just
 showing
  the coldfusion debug output ?
 
 
  To be fair, its an environment that I am not famaliar with, but it
 seems
  so slow, so hard to do anything in it, I have so many questions and
 can't
  find the answers.
 
  Slow doing what exactly?
 
 
  For example:
  My local test site start page is
  http://127.0.0.1/my_site/password/password.cfm, if I view this page in
 IE I
  can see my debugging output and know its going to the correct page
 based on
  the DSN and settings, but the FireFox or IE view ( the tabs next to the
  source button) open a page without debugging and I am really not sure
 what
  or where the data is coming from.
 
  I never use these tabs, so I have no idea ;o)
 
 
  The copy Preview URL option returns
 my_site/Password/sb_password.cfm..
  but what server? It looks like its pointing to the settings\DSN that
  retrieve my live database, rather then my test database that I want.
 
  Again, not sure - but I would expect it has to do with which server you
 have
  it configured to. Right click on your project, and go into the
 ColdFusion
  properties and see what the configuration settings are.
 
 
  Also I have managed to close some of the tabs within the ( lets say
  Snippets view), how do I get them back? better yet, can I reset the
  coldfusion perspective entirely?
 
  You can customize the ColdFusion (or any other) perspective as much as
 you
  would like.
 
  If you want to add any View: Window  Show View  Other
  Will give you the full list of views you can add to your perspective.
 
  If you want to reset your perspective, I believe: Window  Reset
 Perspective
  will do the job you want.
 
  HTH
 
  Mark
 
 
  Cheers,
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  Behalf Of Chris Velevitch
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  flashaus...@googlegroups.com; AirAussie; Flexaussie
  Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Builder 2 is now available to buy or try
 
  http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion-builder.html
 
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers meeting for Thursday 28 April 2011

2011-04-27 Thread Mark Mandel
Uh oh - if people are coming, I had better prepare or something ;)

Mark

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 Sounds good, I'll be coming along.

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Re: [cfaussie] Re: MAD! Melbourne Adobe Developers meeting for Thursday 28 April 2011

2011-04-26 Thread Mark Mandel
Obviously I'll be there :)

Mark

On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Dawesi daw...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1

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Re: [cfaussie] using Solr in a multi instance configuration

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Mandel
Yeah, it's another JEE deployment.

Looks like CF is running SOLR on a Jetty servlet engine. It may be a case of
going into /opt/webapps/ and making a copy of solr.war and call it something
new (say uat.war), and then restarting it.

You will have to look at having seperate solr.home's defined for each solr
instance, and that is the tricky bit. It may actually be a zillion times
easier to simply install another instance of Jetty on the server, and drop
solr on it, and point your UAT machine at that instead.

I don't think that CF supports pointing at multiple SOLR instances, does it?

Mark

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 Deploying a second instance of solr was my idea also, but I wasn't sure if
 this was the right way to go about it or not (I'm also not exactly sure how
 you go about deploying a second instance of Solr either) - is it a copy
 directory and modify some files type exercise, or is it a run the solr
 standalone installer? the solr we are using is the one that installs all by
 itself when you put coldfusion 9 on.

 I know how to tell an instance what Solr to look at (in the CFIDE
 administrator, in Solr) so that bit is straight forward.

 On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh, I think I see the issue.

 You want to deploy a second instance of solr, but are not sure how to tell
 each instance to have different solr homes. Is that correct?

 Mark

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