--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "Vigilius Haufniensis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> what's your take on the "plasma" theory, bob? did the plane
vaporize into
> plasmic matter?
After Pentagon propaganda engineers were sure the FBI had scooped up
all the local security cam vids, the Pentagon r
--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "Vigilius Haufniensis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> what's your take on the "plasma" theory, bob? did the plane
vaporize into
> plasmic matter?
Like the Israeli Defense Force conscripts say to the US neocon
rapturities,"Don't make a religion out of us".
When
I think any attempt to resurrect Nazis as the arch criminal element
behind what is happening today is absurd. The moslem brotherhood
can't really wear swastika armbands, all arab muslims are also
semites. Perhaps Iranian muslims could make a case for being aryans;
however, the wogs in the far e
"I believe the 19 arabs were patsies" -Mark Urban
There are two streams of arab patsies. One is al-CIA-duh, literally
CIA personnel dataBASE of political islam inherited from British
colonialism. The other is Muslim Brotherhood, the WW2 German nazi
version of MIb al-CIA-duh, and thanks to that old
Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
Well, I see no reason for orthodoxy and do not "believe" everything anybody
says. It ain't a religion.
9/11 was run as an intelligence op. Hopsicker and Judge don't agree and
Hopsicker has never claimed to have any answers ab
what's your take on the "plasma" theory, bob? did the plane vaporize into
plasmic matter?
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From: "muckblit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:30 AM
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> The P
Well, I see no reason for orthodoxy and do not "believe" everything
anybody says. It ain't a religion.
9/11 was run as an intelligence op. Hopsicker and Judge don't agree
and Hopsicker has never claimed to have any answers about the
Pentagon. He relates about the psychological make-up of At
I believe the 19 arabs were patsies. They were run by the same folks
whom Daniel Hopsicker writes about on Madcow. They were operatives who
appeared to act like muslim extremeists yet were deeply involved with
the off the books intel stuff that goes right back to the Ferrie/Oswald
days.
Muslim ex
The Pentagon front wall is not concrete. I think the plane was only
doing 350mph, but again, four inches of stone facing and two layers of
brick is nothing.
Maneuvers? That sounds like the high-g turn and rapid descent disinfo.
The plane flew up the river, appeared to use these high points as
pylo
21, 2007 8:35 PM
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
according to loose change the engine part that was at the scene
was too small for that type of plane
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From: Arlene Johnson
B> Again, one Rolls-Royce en
" Here are some more questions for you, Bob:
If Arabs did this, then why were the American people subjected to the
USA PATRIOT
Act and Patriot Act 2 also?
Why, since most of the Arabs were Saudis, did the US attack
Afghanistan?" -Arlene Johnson
The Saudis got higher oil prices, the Paks got the
"Bob- There was no Rolls Royce engine on the lawn that morning, and some
drawing of it is not going to convince me that it was laying on the lawn
that morning" -Arlene
It's not "some drawing". It's the drawing mechanics are furnished by
Boeing for Rolls-Royce engines on some Boeing 757's, while ot
's and not
> other 757's. If you can't face facts you have another allegiance.
>
> -Bob
>
> Re: [cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
>
> Bob-
> You're treating this link as gospel. Where was it in 2001 when all of
> the evidence poured into us??? If you read
wheel
and shroud with holes in it, matching the company maintenance diagram,
and Rolls-Royce being the engine on American Airlines 757's and not
other 757's. If you can't face facts you have another allegiance.
-Bob
Re: [cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
Bob-
You're treating this l
"one source stated that the lettering on the AA part was backwards"
-Arlene
No. http://www.earth-citizens.net/pages-en/wr-redl.html
"according to loose change the engine part that was at the scene was
too small for that type of plane" -Arlene
No. http://www.earth-citizens.net/pages-en/wr-eng.htm
--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "mark urban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Bob,
>
> Call me crazy, but in the first film and stills after the pentahit, I
> neither saw the impact marks of the wings of a commercial jet on the
> building's facade, nor did I see the impact marks of the hardest
Bob,
Call me crazy, but in the first film and stills after the pentahit, I
neither saw the impact marks of the wings of a commercial jet on the
building's facade, nor did I see the impact marks of the hardest
things on the jet - the engines. If you see the film of the 2nd jet
hitting the south
We don't know what was found inside the building.
Outside, before the press was chased across the street, engine and
wheel parts were found outside of the hole.
Parts too big and heavy to have been dropped out of someone's trouser
leg on the ground in open view of the press for hours, included pa
--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "Vigilius Haufniensis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> according to loose change the engine part that was at the scene was
too small for that type of plane.
Some people just keep regurgitating and recirculating the same lies.
The notion that the part was too small
r which the evidence is overwhelming.
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From: Arlene Johnson
To: cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: [cia-drugs] Re: loftus on wtprn
Then, you will never be on board, Muckblit, because there were no engi
As soon as you explain what happened to the engines and wings, Im on
board.-- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "muckblit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> Four inches of stone, two layers of brick, for the front wall. Like
paper.
>
> Around the windows there was a light metal frame designed to hold
"why did the plane fly over the pentagon, do a 180, come all the way
back around, and hit THAT sid"
Two reasons, to fly past the US Capitol, the White House, and CIA
headquarters, just to show off, and secondly, in order to crash into
empty offices. They could have killed Rumsfeld or a general if
Four inches of stone, two layers of brick, for the front wall. Like paper.
Around the windows there was a light metal frame designed to hold the
windows if fragments from a truck bomb flew against the wall. Again,
nothing, no solid structure.
The second floor slab represented the first solid stru
Kris,
What I was saying is that Loftus appears to be saying that the plane
in its regular configuration behaved like a shaped charge when it hit
the pentagon. He is using the concept of a plasma stream to explain
how the relatively soft nosed commercial jet could punch through so
many interior
No, I do not think there was some special charge on plane or otherwise.
Peace,
K
On Sep 17, 2007, at 9:54 PM, mark urban wrote:
> The concept of a shaped charge is what is being proffered. An
> inverted cone of metal jacketed high explosive that hits armor
> creates a molten stream of metal that
questions were legitimate and should be discussed. i dont know
whethere he buys into any or all of it or what. i was just taken aback.
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From: "RoadsEnd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Cc: "RoadsEnd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, Septe
The concept of a shaped charge is what is being proffered. An
inverted cone of metal jacketed high explosive that hits armor
creates a molten stream of metal that burns through the armor plate.
If Loftus wants to say a commercial jet hitting a building behaves
like an RPG7 hitting a humvee, then
Basically, my understanding of what Loftus is talking about is what
happens when a large object moving at a high rate of speed hits an
immovable object creating high temperatures and thusly
disintegration. What form this disintegration took and if this
activity created any special effect I
It is amazing how the laws of physics just went all to hell on 911.
--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "Vigilius Haufniensis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> john loftus is on wtprn right now claiming that "the pentagon
plane" turned into plasmic matter. as i understand it, plasmic
matter is
It is amazing how the laws of physics just went all to hell on 911.
--- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, "Vigilius Haufniensis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> john loftus is on wtprn right now claiming that "the pentagon
plane" turned into plasmic matter. as i understand it, plasmic
matter is
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