Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-16 Thread Brian Turnbow
I even need a VXR to run a NPE-300? Yes. Don't tell that to this router System image file is slot0:c7200-p-mz.120-32.S7.bin cisco 7206 (NPE300) processor with 262144K/32768K bytes of memory. Processor board ID 18283396 R7000 CPU at 262Mhz, Implementation 39, Rev 2.1, 256KB L2 Cache 6

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-14 Thread Robert Boyle
At 09:15 PM 6/13/2008, David Coulson wrote: What does the VXR piece get you? I thought there was a huge discussion about it, and the result was 'nothing'? That is basically true. There are no cards for the VXR which use the TDM bus. However, a VXR does allow you to use new NPE cards -400 -G1

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-14 Thread David Coulson
Robert Boyle wrote: That is basically true. There are no cards for the VXR which use the TDM bus. However, a VXR does allow you to use new NPE cards -400 -G1 -G2 and it gets Cisco more money. The other difference is that some older cards are no longer supported in the VXR chassis. Ah, so there

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-14 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, David Coulson wrote: gets Cisco more money. The other difference is that some older cards are no longer supported in the VXR chassis. Ah, so there are plenty of differences between VXR and non-VXR... So confusing. Yes, and when I tried a PA-GE in a non-VXR, it wouldn't

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-14 Thread Eric Kagan
Robert Boyle wrote: That is basically true. There are no cards for the VXR which use the TDM bus. However, a VXR does allow you to use new NPE cards -400 -G1 -G2 and it gets Cisco more money. The other difference is that some older cards are no longer supported in the VXR chassis.

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-13 Thread Justin Shore
] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities Does anyone have any links to info on the MPLS capabilities of the non-VXR 7200s and how they stack up against their VXR siblings (cousins?)? We have an option of picking up some inexpensive non-VXRs (I don't know what CPUs yet) and are considering

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-13 Thread Eric Kagan
Thanks for the replies. This was exactly what I was looking for. I'm familiar with the newer VXRs. We have 2 7206VXRs w/ G1 which work great. These older 7200 would be for a new venture that we're getting into. The cost of placing cheap, lower-end 7200s at remote COs to terminate fewer

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-13 Thread Matthew Crocker
Thanks for the replies. This was exactly what I was looking for. I'm familiar with the newer VXRs. We have 2 7206VXRs w/ G1 which work great. These older 7200 would be for a new venture that we're getting into. The cost of placing cheap, lower-end 7200s at remote COs to terminate fewer

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-13 Thread Justin Shore
Matthew Crocker wrote: Take a look at some DS-1 bridge gear - Turin Traverse PacketEdge 1200 12 cDS-3s into vlans on a GigE (HDLC, PPP, FR-DLCI) - Zhone IPD12000E, 12 slot chassis with 24 port EFM DS-1 cards - Zhone MALC723, 20 slot chassis with 24 port EFM DS-1 cards I use the Zhone

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-13 Thread David Coulson
Eric Kagan wrote: It also eliminates the need to get the NON-VXR's out (which you will probably end up doing sooner than later and quickly regret the NON-VXR move). We did the same thing about 4 years ago and I swore at myself as I swapped out each one with a VXR over the past 2 years..

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-13 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday 12 June 2008, Paolo Lucente wrote: Full featured QoS is there. IHMO, there is an interesting option of running the 12.2SR train onto it. Yeah, but be careful if you're looking at SRC. While comprehensive, it's riddled with bugs left, right and centre. We've tried it in some

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-12 Thread Paolo Lucente
Hi Justin, in the end, the VXR backplane has nothing to do with MPLS - rather is an added TDM bus for cross-connects. Consensus was a few time ago on this same list that there are really few cards supporting it and pretty much nobody getting benefit from it. Also, you don't have different IOS

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-12 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:23 AM, Sean Shepard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (2) If you are using an older IOS, there is a bug with PPP where the router won't negotiate (I believe it is) maximum RECEIVE unit (MRU). This has kept us from using some devices on bonded MLPPP connections as the PPP link

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-12 Thread Brian Turnbow
with the npe 400 that supports 512M of ram anything prior maxes out at 256M. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Shore Sent: giovedì 12 giugno 2008 0.45 To: 'Cisco-nsp' Subject: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities Does

[c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-11 Thread Justin Shore
Does anyone have any links to info on the MPLS capabilities of the non-VXR 7200s and how they stack up against their VXR siblings (cousins?)? We have an option of picking up some inexpensive non-VXRs (I don't know what CPUs yet) and are considering using these to terminate DS3s of T1

Re: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities

2008-06-11 Thread Sean Shepard
, June 11, 2008 6:45 PM To: 'Cisco-nsp' Subject: [c-nsp] 7200s (VXRs and not) and MPLS capabilities Does anyone have any links to info on the MPLS capabilities of the non-VXR 7200s and how they stack up against their VXR siblings (cousins?)? We have an option of picking up some inexpensive non-VXRs