Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-25 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:41:06 +0400 (MSD), you wrote: You can do it if you have the PFC3CXL card (available as spare for 6500 Sups), it was never productized however. I couldn't find it in GPL. VS-F6K-PFC3CXL= is Catalyst 6500 Sup720-10G Policy Feature Card 3CXL -A

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-25 Thread Dmitry Valdov
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists wrote: VS-F6K-PFC3CXL= is Catalyst 6500 Sup720-10G Policy Feature Card 3CXL It's for SUP720.. We have RSP720-3C.. -- Dmitry Valdov CCIE #15379 (RS and SP) ___ cisco-nsp mailing list

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-25 Thread Phil Mayers
On 06/25/2010 07:45 AM, Dmitry Valdov wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists wrote: VS-F6K-PFC3CXL= is Catalyst 6500 Sup720-10G Policy Feature Card 3CXL It's for SUP720.. We have RSP720-3C.. I doubt it matters. ___ cisco-nsp

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-25 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:45:13 +0400 (MSD), you wrote: VS-F6K-PFC3CXL= is Catalyst 6500 Sup720-10G Policy Feature Card 3CXL It's for SUP720.. We have RSP720-3C.. 1) You wrote that there is no official upgrade for the RSP 2) ?ukasz wrote that you could upgrade with the PFC3CXL upgrade, which

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-25 Thread Dmitry Valdov
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:45:13 +0400 (MSD), you wrote: VS-F6K-PFC3CXL= is Catalyst 6500 Sup720-10G Policy Feature Card 3CXL It's for SUP720.. We have RSP720-3C.. 1) You wrote that there is no official upgrade for the RSP 2) ?ukasz wrote

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-25 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
On 2010-06-25 10:33, Dmitry Valdov wrote: Right. The last question was is SUP upgrade will *work* with RSP or not? I never tried it for this particular combination, but the PFCs for 6500 and 7600 are *exactly* the same - it's a piece of hardware containing ASICs and TCAMs, connected with

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Dmitry Valdov
Hello, As I understood, the question was about posibility of upgrading 3C to 3CXL by adding 3CXL DFC to it. It was possible to do such upgrade with 3BXL (by adding WS-F6K-PFC3BXL=). I had done it. Is it possible to do the same with 3CXL systems? There is no WS-F6K-PFC-3CXL in GPL. There is

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Peter Rathlev
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 18:38 -0400, Lobo wrote: We're in the process of purchasing some RSP720-3CXL-10GEs for a 7604 and one vendor has told us that they have some RSP720-3C-10GE cards plus PFC3CXL daughter cards which they claim that when combined equates to a regular RSP720-3CXL-10GE. Is

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Dmitry Valdov
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010, Peter Rathlev wrote: We did it with PFC3B versions of the Sup720 that were upgraded to PFC3BXL some years ago. We dit it with 3BXL too. The question was about 3CXL. The difference is that an upgrade Sup720 3B-3BXL is officially available and RSP720 3C-3CXL is not. --

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Frédéric LOUI
In addition you can check this with the following command: router-x#show platform hardware pfc mode PFC operating mode : PFC3CXL router-x# For what is worth: For unknown reason(s) we had to add/swap some linecards and end up with a chassis having only 3CXL cards (including RSP3CXL) But this

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 06:38:16PM -0400, Lobo wrote: We're in the process of purchasing some RSP720-3CXL-10GEs for a 7604 and one vendor has told us that they have some RSP720-3C-10GE cards plus PFC3CXL daughter cards which they claim that when combined equates to a regular

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Lobo
Thanks for the tip. I'm having the vendor issue the command to verify for us. Our main concern is just making sure that we'll have the 1million IPv4 routes and 256K netflow capabilities for this box. Thanks! Jose On 6/24/2010 5:56 AM, Frédéric LOUI wrote: In addition you can check this

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Frédéric LOUI
In our lab setup, we have 2 full internet feeds (IPv4 / IPv6) thus ~ 67 + v6 prefixes Netflow v9 is working without any issue so far (without sampling). However we did not test netflow v9 with MPLS features. According to my technical representative, on 8x10GE card with 3CXL, NDE is handled

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Phil Mayers
On 24/06/10 14:53, Frédéric LOUI wrote: In our lab setup, we have 2 full internet feeds (IPv4 / IPv6) thus ~ 67 + v6 prefixes Netflow v9 is working without any issue so far (without sampling). However we did not test netflow v9 with MPLS features. Sampling on the PFC/DFC platforms probably

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread David Freedman
Phil Mayers wrote: Sampling on the PFC/DFC platforms probably doesn't do what you want it to do. It still captures all flows; just only exports a subset. This saves neither TCAM nor significant CPU at the export side. Interesting, if this is the case, what are folk doing to reduce NDE CPU

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Phil Mayers
On 24/06/10 15:38, David Freedman wrote: Phil Mayers wrote: Sampling on the PFC/DFC platforms probably doesn't do what you want it to do. It still captures all flows; just only exports a subset. This saves neither TCAM nor significant CPU at the export side. Interesting, if this is the

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Phil Mayers
On 24/06/10 16:45, Nick Hilliard wrote: On 24/06/2010 15:19, Phil Mayers wrote: Also, be aware that DFC/PFC platforms (until recently) only generate flows for packets which ingress as plain IPv4. Or IPv6. Except if you're using L2 ipv6 netflow, you can see the entries on the pfc, but NDE

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 24/06/2010 15:19, Phil Mayers wrote: Also, be aware that DFC/PFC platforms (until recently) only generate flows for packets which ingress as plain IPv4. Or IPv6. Except if you're using L2 ipv6 netflow, you can see the entries on the pfc, but NDE won't export them to a collector. Sigh.

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Frédéric LOUI
Le 24 juin 2010 à 16:19, Phil Mayers a écrit : On 24/06/10 14:53, Frédéric LOUI wrote: In our lab setup, we have 2 full internet feeds (IPv4 / IPv6) thus ~ 67 + v6 prefixes Netflow v9 is working without any issue so far (without sampling). However we did not test netflow v9 with MPLS

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Matt Nichols
You can use this URL for guidance: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_qanda_item09186a00809a7673.shtml. Although it does not specifically show the behavior with PFC3CXL installed, the trending is the same - the lowest common denominator of PFC/DFC that is identified

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Łukasz Bromirski
On 2010-06-24 10:25, Dmitry Valdov wrote: We dit it with 3BXL too. The question was about 3CXL. The difference is that an upgrade Sup720 3B-3BXL is officially available and RSP720 3C-3CXL is not. You can do it if you have the PFC3CXL card (available as spare for 6500 Sups), it was never

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-24 Thread Dmitry Valdov
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010, ёukasz Bromirski wrote: On 2010-06-24 10:25, Dmitry Valdov wrote: We dit it with 3BXL too. The question was about 3CXL. The difference is that an upgrade Sup720 3B-3BXL is officially available and RSP720 3C-3CXL is not. You can do it if you have the PFC3CXL card

Re: [c-nsp] RSP720-3C-10GE with daughter card = RSP720-3CXL-10GE?

2010-06-23 Thread Matt Nichols
No that is not correct. The system, at boot time, will fall back to the lowest common denominator - in this case PFC3C mode. To run in PFC3CXL mode all PFCs on the supervisors have to be 3CXLs, and all DFCS have to be DFC3CXL. Matt On Jun 23, 2010, at 3:38 PM, Lobo wrote: We're in the