Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-21 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>) mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>> Cc: Charles Goldsmith mailto:w...@woka.us>>; Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle Just to Chime in here…. From what I have seen

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-21 Thread Chester Rieman
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Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-21 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
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Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-21 Thread Chester Rieman
> To: Lelio Fulgenzi mailto:le...@uoguelph.ca>> > Cc: Ryan Huff mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com>>; Anthony > Holloway <mailto:avholloway+cisco-v...@gmail.com>>; cisco-voip voyp list > mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>> > Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU releas

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-19 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
You've hit a few more nails right on the head. I'll add this, just 'cause it's so much more fun. On more than one occasion, people have come back from EDU conferences, where they meet someone who says their system has feature XYZ and their team said it was easy. So we're asked to implement and

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-19 Thread Anthony Holloway
That's some good insight. Thanks for sharing. On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 7:25 AM Pawlowski, Adam wrote: > I agree on several points you've made. As we continue to "run lean" > (meaning, in some cases, on fumes) and our management and leadership are > bombarded with firms offering to deliver

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-19 Thread Pawlowski, Adam
I agree on several points you've made. As we continue to "run lean" (meaning, in some cases, on fumes) and our management and leadership are bombarded with firms offering to deliver everything we do as a managed service that just fountains in over the "cloud", the reality of it is that we're

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-16 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle Regarding the SU release cycle, I believe I have heard similar claims before about cadence and committal to move forward and not maintain old code but I'll believe it when I see it. Regarding the cloud services, we're being asked to lo

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-16 Thread Pawlowski, Adam
Regarding the SU release cycle, I believe I have heard similar claims before about cadence and committal to move forward and not maintain old code but I'll believe it when I see it. Regarding the cloud services, we're being asked to look too like many shops. I'm struggling to find the real

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
ter and Facebook [University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline] From: Charles Goldsmith Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 1:46 PM To: Lelio Fulgenzi Cc: Ryan Huff ; Anthony Holloway ; cisco-voip voyp list Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle Cloud is good for some things, IMHO

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Charles Goldsmith
ca > > > > www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook > > > > [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline] > > > > *From:* Ryan Huff > *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2019 1:31 PM > *To:* Lelio Fulgenzi >

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
:31 PM To: Lelio Fulgenzi Cc: Anthony Holloway ; Charles Goldsmith ; cisco-voip voyp list Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle Let’s not get ahead of ourselves there ;). Just like war, usually (but not always) the people who want 100% cloud calling or think it’s a great idea are t

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Ryan Huff
uck.nether.net>> On Behalf Of Anthony Holloway Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:50 AM To: Charles Goldsmith mailto:w...@woka.us>> Cc: cisco-voip voyp list mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle Make it SU5 in memory of the .5 rele

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
ith Improve Life tagline] From: Anthony Holloway Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 12:05 PM To: Lelio Fulgenzi Cc: Charles Goldsmith ; cisco-voip voyp list Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle So if I do the math... No more minor versions ...punches some keys... And 2 month SU cycles

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Anthony Holloway
nd Facebook > > > > [image: University of Guelph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline] > > > > *From:* cisco-voip *On Behalf Of *Anthony > Holloway > *Sent:* Thursday, August 15, 2019 11:50 AM > *To:* Charles Goldsmith > *Cc:* cisco-voip voyp list > *Subject:*

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
rsday, August 15, 2019 11:50 AM To: Charles Goldsmith Cc: cisco-voip voyp list Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle Make it SU5 in memory of the .5 releases. On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 9:18 AM Charles Goldsmith mailto:w...@woka.us>> wrote: I didn't see an announcement, was just told a

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Anthony Holloway
Make it SU5 in memory of the .5 releases. On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 9:18 AM Charles Goldsmith wrote: > I didn't see an announcement, was just told about the change, Cisco > doesn't like us waiting for the .5 release to push out to customers. We > all know that the .0 releases have historically

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Ryan Huff
h software revisionist trends .. etc. -Ryan From: Lelio Fulgenzi Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 10:31 AM To: Matthew Loraditch ; Anthony Holloway ; Ryan Huff Cc: Charles Goldsmith ; cisco-voip voyp list Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle Yeah, this wa

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Palmer, Brian
Huff Cc: Charles Goldsmith ; cisco-voip voyp list Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle Yeah, this was the jist. No one liked “dot oh” releases. It just means people are now going to make up their own upgrade cycle in their head based on what we hear. Waiting until SU2 maybe? Who

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Lelio Fulgenzi
elph Cornerstone with Improve Life tagline] From: cisco-voip On Behalf Of Matthew Loraditch Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 10:20 AM To: Anthony Holloway ; Ryan Huff Cc: Charles Goldsmith ; cisco-voip voyp list Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle I heard this in a preso. Customers were

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Matthew Loraditch
. Network Engineer p: 443.541.1518 w: www.heliontechnologies.com | e: mloradi...@heliontechnologies.com From: cisco-voip On Behalf Of Anthony Holloway Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 10:16 AM To: Ryan Huff Cc: Charles Goldsmith ; cisco-voip voyp list Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Charles Goldsmith
I didn't see an announcement, was just told about the change, Cisco doesn't like us waiting for the .5 release to push out to customers. We all know that the .0 releases have historically been more challenging. So now, I plan to wait until at least su2 before upgrading :) On Thu, Aug 15, 2019

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Anthony Holloway
Why not just all Major versions all the time? Google Chrome is on version 76. But seriously though, anyone got a reference to this announcement? I didn't see it in the cisco live preso linked earlier. If not, what's the reported reason for dropping minor release numbers? On Thu, Aug 15, 2019

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Ryan Huff
After 12.5, no more “.5” releases, it’ll just be major versions (and the SUs in between). After 12.5 we skip 13 and go right to 14 (then presumably, 15 after that). Sent from my iPhone On Aug 15, 2019, at 02:05, Anthony Holloway wrote:  What's going on with .5 releases? I don't think I

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-15 Thread Anthony Holloway
What's going on with .5 releases? I don't think I heard about that. On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:16 PM Charles Goldsmith wrote: > Yeah, I think with the move away from the .5 releases, we'll be getting > more SU's and less major releases. > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:58 PM Ki Wi wrote: > >>

Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM SU release cycle

2019-08-14 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Yeah, I think with the move away from the .5 releases, we'll be getting more SU's and less major releases. On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:58 PM Ki Wi wrote: > Hi Group, > in the past , the SU release is every 6 months (usually longer than that, > approximately twice a year maximum) but now Cisco is