Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-26 Thread GiM
Paul Kosinski in message 'Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow' wrote: > > Also, I have noticed that Norton/Symantec, McAfee, CA etc. seem to > include new executable code in their signature updates. Likely they > add special-case code for some new threats, rather t

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-24 Thread Peter Boosten
Paul Kosinski wrote: > > My only worry now is that either clamd will crash, or stop listening > too long when updating. I am using procmail on the tail-end of > Postfix's "virtual" delivery and don't see a way to have procmail get > Postfix to try delivery again later (like it would with SMTP > de

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-24 Thread Paul Kosinski
When I originally started using clamav, clamscan could handle my low (SOHO) volume of email quite well, but recently, it started taking over 20 secs to scan a short email, and was even showing signs of not keeping up with the spam rate. (My email server is an AMD Sempron "2800+", 1600 MHz, 896 MB R

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-19 Thread René Berber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 John Rudd wrote: [snip] > That, or mail servers that scan their email in bulk batches (like those > using mailscanner), where the latency of starting clamscan is MUCH > smaller than the latency in going through clamd (I've timed both under > mails

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-19 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Henrik Krohns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Good for you. As the email flow could be made much more efficient with a > simple addition of letter "d", I'm a bit confused in this matter. So now you know what software I run, and that it would support that change? And you know it would make it not o

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-19 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Henrik Krohns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 10:45:30PM -0500, Eric Rostetter wrote: >> >> if you have sufficient system resources, and are willing to >> tolerate slow delivery times (up to 4 minutes on my system, with clamscan >> on 0.90.3 for example). > > I'm just amaze

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-19 Thread Rick Cooper
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Rudd > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:10 AM > To: ClamAV users ML > Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow > [...] > > That, or mail serve

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-19 Thread jef moskot
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Eric Rostetter wrote: > I feel there are good reasons to run clamscan instead of another option, > and I feel that one can indeed do so if they have sufficient > resources... For perspective, in my environment we'd be talking about a database load time of less than a couple se

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread John Rudd
John Rudd wrote: > (* "questionable"? "not idea"? sure.. unacceptable to the point of > firing someone? that's incompetent management) That should have said "not ideal", not "not idea". ___ Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide: visit http://

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread John Rudd
Henrik Krohns wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 10:45:30PM -0500, Eric Rostetter wrote: >> if you have sufficient system resources, and are willing to >> tolerate slow delivery times (up to 4 minutes on my system, with clamscan >> on 0.90.3 for example). > > I'm just amazed by all the nitpicking i

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread John Rudd
Jan-Pieter Cornet wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 09:39:23AM -0400, Christopher X. Candreva wrote: >> On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Peter Boosten wrote: >> >>> I had some problems running clamd on one of the machines a long time >>> ago, and with mimedefang running clamscan is the second option (which >>>

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Dennis Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> No, it _IS_ subjective, and it depends on your available resources. And in >> my opinion, with my resources, it is tolerable. Your milage may vary. > > Sorry, no. For any particular machine you can measure the performance of > each clamav client an

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Dennis Peterson
Eric Rostetter wrote: > Quoting Dennis Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> Not exactly. But I did say that I am using it in production. Now, if it >>> is a good way or not, that is a subjective matter. >> Not exactly - it is measurable. And it is really bad. > > No, it _IS_ subjective, and it d

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Dennis Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Not exactly. But I did say that I am using it in production. Now, if it >> is a good way or not, that is a subjective matter. > > Not exactly - it is measurable. And it is really bad. No, it _IS_ subjective, and it depends on your available resour

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Jan-Pieter Cornet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > clamscan has a purpose. As others have also said - YMMV. A very lightly > loaded mailserver (~100 msgs/day) shouldn't have a lot of problems with > clamscan. At least not with the 0.88.x version. We've been using it, and deliver hundreds of thousan

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
Chris wrote: > On Monday 18 June 2007 5:04 pm, Christopher X. Candreva wrote: > >> On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Chris wrote: >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ clamdscan phish1.txt >>> /home/chris/phish1.txt: Access denied. ERROR >>> >>> I can't figure out why I keep getting this Access denied error. Any

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Dennis Peterson
Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Jun 18, 2007, at 12:19 PM, jef moskot wrote: >> On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Dennis Peterson wrote: >>> Clamscan is a terrible tool to use in real time with email. >> I would recommend it for low volume servers with cycles to burn, given >> that the other option is a daemon that ca

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Dennis Peterson
Eric Rostetter wrote: > Quoting "Christopher X. Candreva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Eric Rostetter wrote: >> >>> Anyway, my point is, your millage may vary. Don't try to impose your views >>> on everyone else. >> Whoa here. Did you chime and and give a good way to use clamsca

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Dennis Peterson
jef moskot wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Dennis Peterson wrote: >> Clamscan is a terrible tool to use in real time with email. > > I would recommend it for low volume servers with cycles to burn, given > that the other option is a daemon that can potentially fail. Neither is > entirely ideal, but

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Chris
On Monday 18 June 2007 5:04 pm, Christopher X. Candreva wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Chris wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ clamdscan phish1.txt > > /home/chris/phish1.txt: Access denied. ERROR > > > > I can't figure out why I keep getting this Access denied error. Anyone > > with any ideas? > > B

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Jan-Pieter Cornet
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 09:39:23AM -0400, Christopher X. Candreva wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Peter Boosten wrote: > > > I had some problems running clamd on one of the machines a long time > > ago, and with mimedefang running clamscan is the second option (which > > had worked until sometime ag

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Chris wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ clamdscan phish1.txt > /home/chris/phish1.txt: Access denied. ERROR > > I can't figure out why I keep getting this Access denied error. Anyone with > any ideas? Because you didn't RTFM. :-) clamdscan passes the file name to clamd, which

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Chris
On Monday 18 June 2007 2:35 pm, Dave Warren wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> jef moskot > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Dennis Peterson wrote: > >> Clamscan is a terrible tool to use in real time with email. > > > >I would recommend it for low volume servers with cycle

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Dave Warren
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> jef moskot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Dennis Peterson wrote: >> Clamscan is a terrible tool to use in real time with email. > >I would recommend it for low volume servers with cycles to burn, given >that the other option is a daemon that can pot

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting "Christopher X. Candreva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Eric Rostetter wrote: > >> Anyway, my point is, your millage may vary. Don't try to impose your views >> on everyone else. > > Whoa here. Did you chime and and give a good way to use clamscan on > production ? Not exac

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 18, 2007, at 12:19 PM, jef moskot wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Dennis Peterson wrote: >> Clamscan is a terrible tool to use in real time with email. > > I would recommend it for low volume servers with cycles to burn, given > that the other option is a daemon that can potentially fail. >

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Bill Landry
jef moskot wrote the following on 6/18/2007 12:19 PM -0800: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Dennis Peterson wrote: > >> Clamscan is a terrible tool to use in real time with email. >> > > I would recommend it for low volume servers with cycles to burn, given > that the other option is a daemon that c

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread jef moskot
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Dennis Peterson wrote: > Clamscan is a terrible tool to use in real time with email. I would recommend it for low volume servers with cycles to burn, given that the other option is a daemon that can potentially fail. Neither is entirely ideal, but we should take the wide vari

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Eric Rostetter wrote: > Anyway, my point is, your millage may vary. Don't try to impose your views > on everyone else. Whoa here. Did you chime and and give a good way to use clamscan on production ? Every time this comes up the answer is "don't do it". If that is the answ

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting "Christopher X. Candreva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Peter Boosten wrote: > >> I had some problems running clamd on one of the machines a long time >> ago, and with mimedefang running clamscan is the second option (which >> had worked until sometime ago). So I configured m

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Dennis Peterson
Peter Boosten wrote: > > Eric Rostetter wrote: >> 1) Yes, it is slow. >> 2) Yes, it wasn't always like this (and hence you could down-grade to an >> older >> version if you needed). >> 3) Newer versions are faster (see below). >> 4) Yes, it still can be used for a mail server (I know, as I'm

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Peter Boosten wrote: > I had some problems running clamd on one of the machines a long time > ago, and with mimedefang running clamscan is the second option (which > had worked until sometime ago). So I configured mimedefang for clamscan. Maybe it's time to ask the mimedefang

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Thomas Spuhler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Rostetter wrote: I posted on another list as well, but thought this may gets more attention from the developers: > > They are well aware of it. > Clamscan is extremely slow and CPU hungry. clamscan a pdf file of about 1.2 MB

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Peter Boosten
Christopher X. Candreva wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Peter Boosten wrote: > >> clamdscan solved that issue, although I would have appreciated this >> effect *before* I upgraded to a newer release. > > This keeps comming up, perhaps it needs to be addressed in the docs. > > Could you tell us w

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-18 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Peter Boosten wrote: > clamdscan solved that issue, although I would have appreciated this > effect *before* I upgraded to a newer release. This keeps comming up, perhaps it needs to be addressed in the docs. Could you tell us why you used clamscan instead of clamd/clamdscan

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-17 Thread Peter Boosten
Eric Rostetter wrote: > > 1) Yes, it is slow. > 2) Yes, it wasn't always like this (and hence you could down-grade to an older > version if you needed). > 3) Newer versions are faster (see below). > 4) Yes, it still can be used for a mail server (I know, as I'm still > using it). The latt

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-17 Thread Eric Rostetter
>> > I posted on another list as well, but thought this may gets more >> > attention from the developers: They are well aware of it. >> > Clamscan is extremely slow and CPU hungry. clamscan a pdf file of about >> > 1.2 MB and it takes about 1 minute. Same file with a commercial scanner >> > take

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-17 Thread Rick Cooper
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Thomas Spuhler > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:37 PM > To: clamav-users@lists.clamav.net > Subject: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow > > I posted o

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-17 Thread Gerard
On Sunday June 17, 2007 at 03:07:52 (PM) Thomas Spuhler wrote: {snip] > Thanks for clarification. I saw a similar thread on the Mandriva cooker > mailing list. > The commercial antivirus program isn't the demonized. I don't want to list > the > name on a mailing list. I think I can safely say

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-17 Thread Thomas Spuhler
On Sunday 17 June 2007 11:52, Daniel Staal wrote: > --As of June 17, 2007 11:44:04 AM -0700, Thomas Spuhler is alleged to have > > said: > >> Use clamdscan instead of clamscan. > > > > That doesn't improve clamscan. > > (I can use a free commercial that is really fast) > > --As for the rest, it is

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-17 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of June 17, 2007 11:44:04 AM -0700, Thomas Spuhler is alleged to have said: >> Use clamdscan instead of clamscan. > > That doesn't improve clamscan. > (I can use a free commercial that is really fast) --As for the rest, it is mine. Your problem is the startup time of clamscan, and has been

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-17 Thread Thomas Spuhler
On Sunday 17 June 2007 08:43, Török Edvin wrote: > On 6/17/07, Thomas Spuhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I posted on another list as well, but thought this may gets more > > attention from the developers: > > Clamscan is extremely slow and CPU hungry. clamscan a pdf file of about > > 1.2 MB and

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-17 Thread Török Edvin
On 6/17/07, Thomas Spuhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I posted on another list as well, but thought this may gets more attention > from the developers: > Clamscan is extremely slow and CPU hungry. clamscan a pdf file of about 1.2 MB > and it takes about 1 minute. Use clamdscan instead of clamsca

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-17 Thread Thomas Spuhler
On Saturday 16 June 2007 19:07, Dennis Peterson wrote: > Thomas Spuhler wrote: > > I posted on another list as well, but thought this may gets more > > attention from the developers: > > Clamscan is extremely slow and CPU hungry. clamscan a pdf file of about > > 1.2 MB and it takes about 1 minute.

Re: [Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-16 Thread Dennis Peterson
Thomas Spuhler wrote: > I posted on another list as well, but thought this may gets more attention > from the developers: > Clamscan is extremely slow and CPU hungry. clamscan a pdf file of about 1.2 > MB > and it takes about 1 minute. Same file with a commercial scanner takes 2 sec. > This wasn

[Clamav-users] clamscan extremly slow

2007-06-16 Thread Thomas Spuhler
I posted on another list as well, but thought this may gets more attention from the developers: Clamscan is extremely slow and CPU hungry. clamscan a pdf file of about 1.2 MB and it takes about 1 minute. Same file with a commercial scanner takes 2 sec. This wasn't always like this. As a result, c