Re: [Clamav-users] Virus detection notification

2005-01-27 Thread Ralf Bosz
[sending notification to receiver] It's possible with Amavisd-new to do this, but if it's wise??? It can confuse the receiver, so inform them good about this kind of messages (or make the message very good). Here we just delete the worms, what is the use of a message that you just received the

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81 default clamd.conf and clamav-milter

2005-01-27 Thread Nigel Horne
On Wednesday 26 Jan 2005 23:41, Kritof Petr wrote: Hi, trying to start clamav-milter from 0.81 I get: Starting clamav-milter: /usr/sbin/clamav-milter: ScanMail not defined in /etc/clamd.conf (needed without --external) What are your clamav-milter options? Petr -- Nigel Horne.

Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamd hanging

2005-01-27 Thread goudal
Tomasz Kojm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:09:59 +0100 Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamd hanging On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:48:08 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thats normal behaviour. A gdb backtrace of each thread when it is hanging is

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81rc1 - html documentation missing, intentional?

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 02:01:28 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tomasz Kojm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There were problems generating HTML documentation (probably due to broken TeX installation in Debian). The tarball now includes clamdoc.tex so you can try to generate it yourself with latex2html.

Re: [Clamav-users] Problem with clamd hanging

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:51:48 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After 24hours with 0.81rc1 compiled with gcc I have not seen any hang-up. And 0.81 is now released officially. -- Brian Morrison bdm at fenrir dot org dot uk GnuPG key ID DE32E5C5 -

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81rc1 - html documentation missing, intentional?

2005-01-27 Thread Jan Pieter Cornet
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 08:10:36AM +, Brian Morrison wrote: The clamdoc.aux file was not found, so sections will not be numbered and cross-references will be shown as icons. Is there a correct command for generating the html docs or the clamdoc.aux file? I'm not very TeX literate I'm

Re: [Clamav-users] Using Clam AV - Perhaps I am not understanding product intent

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 at 13:17:40 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Secondly full file system scanning. [...] The second is easy enough, however, when I used clamdscan the file system scan consumes inordinate amount of CPU resources. I've tried starting clamd with a nice value of 17 and

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81rc1 - html documentation missing, intentional?

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:35:47 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan Pieter Cornet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 08:10:36AM +, Brian Morrison wrote: The clamdoc.aux file was not found, so sections will not be numbered and cross-references will be shown as icons. Is there a

Re: [Clamav-users] Clamav upgrade 0.80-0.81rc1-1

2005-01-27 Thread Gian Carlo
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 10:08:08AM -, Christopher Roberts wrote: I 'had' a beautiful Clamd installation working on a Debian distribution with MIMEDefang. Replacing config file /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf with new version Starting ClamAV virus database updater: ERROR: Number of checks

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81rc1 - html documentation missing, intentional?

2005-01-27 Thread Jan Pieter Cornet
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 10:49:57AM +, Brian Morrison wrote: TeX generates the .aux file itself. Just rerun the command you gave. Done that, same result. I ran latex2html, do I need to run another command first? Hm, I'm not very familiar with latex2html. Maybe you should just run latex

RE: [Clamav-users] Clamav upgrade 0.80-0.81rc1-1

2005-01-27 Thread Christopher Roberts
Check the value of Checks in /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf (defaults to 12, I think) Thanks GC, you're a genius. Or perhaps I'm just stupid - I just never thought to read the error message that literally - it was set to zero and instead I had added freshclam to cron. I have now changed to 12 and

[Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Luca Gibelli wrote: Dear ClamAV users, release 0.81 is now available for download. [ NOTHING ABOUT FUNCTIONALITY UPGRADE ] WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update immediately! WARNING: Current functionality level = 3, required = 4 This is the second time, that this

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Frank Elsner
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:17:16 +0100 Ralph Angenendt wrote: Luca Gibelli wrote: Dear ClamAV users, release 0.81 is now available for download. [ NOTHING ABOUT FUNCTIONALITY UPGRADE ] WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update immediately! WARNING: Current

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:37:33 +0100 Frank Elsner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update immediately! WARNING: Current functionality level = 3, required = 4 This is the second time, that this happened (last time was to 0.80). And it sounds

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:55:33 + Brian Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:42:12 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tomasz Kojm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will ASCII-art flowers printed by freshclam satisfy you as well? Won't your sheep(?) eat them? Actually it's a

Re: [Clamav-users] Clamav upgrade 0.80-0.81rc1-1

2005-01-27 Thread Gian Carlo
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 12:12:09PM -, Christopher Roberts wrote: Check the value of Checks in /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf (defaults to 12, I think) Thanks GC, you're a genius. Or perhaps I'm just stupid - ... Please don't exagerate: you're NOT stupid!!! ;-) bye, gc :-)

Re: [Clamav-users] Clamav upgrade 0.80-0.81rc1-1

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:03:46 +0100 Gian Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 12:12:09PM -, Christopher Roberts wrote: Check the value of Checks in /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf (defaults to 12, I think) Thanks GC, you're a genius. Or perhaps I'm just stupid - ...

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
Tomasz Kojm wrote: Won't your sheep(?) eat them? Actually it's a turtle. I really hate when people confuse it with a sheep! ;-) Ehh? I really thought it was a snail! those two little dots on top, are s like snail antennas. or eyes, whatever. If you've seen Gary, Spongebob Squarepants'

[Clamav-users] Upgrade doc?

2005-01-27 Thread Diane Rolland
Is there an upgrade doc? I want to update to the latest version. Is it best to install over the top of an old version? Or is there a preferred method of upgrade? Thanks! ___ http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users

Re: [Clamav-users] Upgrade doc?

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:16:06 -0600 Diane Rolland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there an upgrade doc? I want to update to the latest version. Is it best to install over the top of an old version? Or is there a preferred method of upgrade? http://wiki.clamav.net/index.php/UpgradeInstructions

Re: [Clamav-users] Directory recursion limit exceeded error in clamd.log file (clamav version 0.80)

2005-01-27 Thread Hal Goldfarb
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 at 3:04:22 -0700, Hal Goldfarb wrote: [...] Problem: When I run clamdscan (which uses the daemon), it generates zillions of errors in the clamd.log file something like Directory recursion limit exceeded at /home/hal/.tvtime. However, when I run

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: [Clamav-announce] announcing ClamAV 0.81

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:57:30 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tomasz Kojm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Won't your sheep(?) eat them? Actually it's a turtle. I really hate when people confuse it with a sheep! ;-) OK, but turtles like flowers too don't they? -- Brian Morrison bdm at fenrir dot

[Clamav-users] Upgrade instructions that ~I~ follow(ed)

2005-01-27 Thread Jeffrey Kroll
Here are the upgrade instructions that I follow(ed)! These do work if you follow them to the t! *oh ya ... Remember to backup your Freshclam.conf and clamd.conf =P~ unpack the old distribution: tar -zxf clamav-0.80.tar.gz run configure cd clamav-0.80 ./configure Unpack

[Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Craig Daters
I'm thinking that someone has submitted this, and we already have the update...but does anyone know for sure if we are safe from this. WORM_BAGLE.AZ is what Trend Net is referring to this as, there message to me this morning follows: As of January 27, 2005 1:42 AM PST (Pacific Standard

Re: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 07:01 -0700, Craig Daters wrote: I'm thinking that someone has submitted this, and we already have the update...but does anyone know for sure if we are safe from this. WORM_BAGLE.AZ is what Trend Net is referring to this as, there message to me this morning follows:

Re: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Craig Daters
Trog wrote: It is detected by Clam as Trojan.Downloader.Small-165, which was added on 8th Nov 2004 by Christoph. Wow, that was some time ago, and TrendNet is only just now putting out an update! That's scarry! Thanks Trog -- Craig Daters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Systems Administrator West Press Print

[Clamav-users] 0.81 - Question on Upgrade

2005-01-27 Thread Sam
Hi List! Please allow me to start by saying I'm relatively new here, having just switched to clam from RAV. I'm very impressed with the responsiveness of the Clam team, and with the Clam product. You guys do a great job. I do have a question on the upgrade(s): Is there typically a period of

RE: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Randal, Phil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trog wrote: It is detected by Clam as Trojan.Downloader.Small-165, which was added on 8th Nov 2004 by Christoph. Wow, that was some time ago, and TrendNet is only just now putting out an update! That's scarry! Thanks Trog -- Craig Daters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81 - Question on Upgrade

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 08:25 -0600, Sam wrote: I do have a question on the upgrade(s): Is there typically a period of time where the old version will work alongside the new version? (I read the faq and saw the mention of missing viruses if one doesn't upgrade). The reason I ask is, in my

RE: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread sk3tch
Craig Daters Wow, that was some time ago, and TrendNet is only just now putting out an update! That's scarry! Thanks Trog What concerns me (if it is true that ClamAV has detected this specific variant since November) is that ClamAV is not performing due diligence and sharing samples to protect

[Clamav-users] v0.81 suddenly says ScanStream: accept() failed

2005-01-27 Thread Paul Bijnens
Upgraded this morning to 0.81, and suddenly I have frequently the error message ScanStream: accept() failed in my logs. I have enable verbose logging, and notice that *most of the time* all is ok, but frequently there is an accept error: Thu Jan 27 16:09:06 2005 - Accepted connection on port

RE: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Randal, Phil
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig Daters Wow, that was some time ago, and TrendNet is only just now putting out an update! That's scarry! Thanks Trog What concerns me (if it is true that ClamAV has detected this specific variant since November) is that ClamAV is not performing due

RE: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 09:13 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig Daters Wow, that was some time ago, and TrendNet is only just now putting out an update! That's scarry! Thanks Trog What concerns me (if it is true that ClamAV has detected this specific variant since November) is that

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Sam wrote: I have yet another question. I have noticed Clam stopping (or at least to me it appears to be stopping) various phishing attempts. Or am I wrong? If this is the case, I will start submitting phishing attemps I see (I probably get 3 - 4 a day). Please don't.

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Jan 27, 2005, at 10:25 AM, Damian Menscher wrote: There was a discussion about this several months ago. Unfortunately, many people (including part of the signature-generation team) are too dogmatic about their feelings that phishing is bad, so we should block it to look at it logically. Can

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Paul Bijnens
Damian Menscher wrote: Please don't. Phishing attempts do not automatically propagate (by infecting a machine and being re-sent) and therefore are generally one-time events. As such, they can be trivially changed to evade any signature-based filter, which must obviously generate a signature

Re: [Clamav-users] v0.81 suddenly says ScanStream: accept() failed

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 16:19 +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: Upgraded this morning to 0.81, and suddenly I have frequently the error message ScanStream: accept() failed in my logs. I have enable verbose logging, and notice that *most of the time* all is ok, but frequently there is an accept error:

Re: [Clamav-users] v0.81 suddenly says ScanStream: accept() failed

2005-01-27 Thread Paul Bijnens
Trog wrote: What software are you using to pass requests/data to clamd? clamscan-procfilter.pl, a little perlprog to be used in procmail essential boiling down to cat themsg | clamdscan --stdout - $tempfile, and examining $tempfile for results. -- Paul Bijnens, Xplanation

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Sam
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Jim Maul wrote: Is it causing you (or anyone for that matter) a problem by clamav catching some phishing attempts as opposed to spamassassin catching them? Whats really the issue here? You just dont believe clamav is the right tool for that job, but is there REALLY a

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 09:45 -0600, Sam wrote: (This is directed more at Trog than anyone...) So if one were to submit phishing attempts, what do you need? I don't think the virus submission page will allow one to submit something without an attachment? Do you need headers? Do you need

Re: [Clamav-users] Clamav upgrade 0.80-0.81rc1-1

2005-01-27 Thread Stephen Gran
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 12:12:09PM -, Christopher Roberts said: Check the value of Checks in /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf (defaults to 12, I think) Thanks GC, you're a genius. Or perhaps I'm just stupid - I just never thought to read the error message that literally - it was set to zero

Re: [Clamav-users] v0.81 suddenly says ScanStream: accept() failed

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 16:44 +0100, Paul Bijnens wrote: Trog wrote: What software are you using to pass requests/data to clamd? clamscan-procfilter.pl, a little perlprog to be used in procmail essential boiling down to cat themsg | clamdscan --stdout - $tempfile, and examining $tempfile

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Jan 27, 2005, at 10:33 AM, Tomasz Kojm wrote: No problem. As a bonus we will create a signature for your domain name ;-) Just kidding! Honest! I'd NEVER think of having Windows thought of as a virus... :-) ___

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:27:00 -0500 Adam Tauno Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just my two cents - I agree with the other guy. CLAM should blocks virii and worms, and leave SPAM to something else. Just think of the Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that really so hard to understand? -- oo

Re: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:35:24 -0500 Don Levey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... Passed right through my setup, without detection. Database updated as recently as 4:am today. So better update your software ASAP. -- oo. Tomasz Kojm [EMAIL PROTECTED] (\/)\.

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Stefan Hornburg
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:29:05 +0100 Tomasz Kojm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:27:00 -0500 Adam Tauno Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just my two cents - I agree with the other guy. CLAM should blocks virii and worms, and leave SPAM to something else. Just think of the

Re: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:35:24 -0500 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don Levey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm... Passed right through my setup, without detection. And your setup is? Database updated as recently as 4:am today. That's more than 7 *hours* ago... -- Brian Morrison bdm at fenrir dot org

Re: [Clamav-users] Are we safe - WORM_BAGLE.AZ

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 at 11:35:24 -0500, Don Levey wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 07:01 -0700, Craig Daters wrote: WORM_BAGLE.AZ is what Trend Net is referring to this as, there message to me this morning follows: It is detected by Clam as

RE: [Clamav-users] Clamav upgrade 0.80-0.81rc1-1

2005-01-27 Thread Christopher Roberts
I'm not sure how that could have happened. Did you choose cron in the debconf setup, or something else? I wouldn't mind getting to the bottom of this. I really don't recall the setup process. I believe I visited http://sial.org/howto/clamav/freshclam/ and took the following sentence to

[Clamav-users] ClamAV 0.81 works great

2005-01-27 Thread GVeri
Hello, I just wanted to give the team a big thank you. All I needed to do was upgrade zlib and compile. Everything is working great. Gord CONFIDENTIALITY WARNING: The information in the e:mail is confidential and privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity it

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:40:25 +0100 Stefan Hornburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you give me a pointer to how Phishing is defined and detected in the context of ClamAV ? See http://www.antiphishing.org/ What is Phishing? Phishing attacks use 'spoofed' e-mails and fraudulent websites designed

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that really so hard to understand? Phishing IS NOT a virus! Is that really so hard to understand? Damian Menscher -- -=#| Physics Grad Student SysAdmin @ U Illinois Urbana-Champaign |#=- -=#| 488 LLP, 1110 W. Green St, Urbana, IL

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Mike Lambert
Tomasz Kojm wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:27:00 -0500 Adam Tauno Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just my two cents - I agree with the other guy. CLAM should blocks virii and worms, and leave SPAM to something else. Just think of the Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that really so hard to understand?

RE: [Clamav-users] ClamAV 0.81 works great

2005-01-27 Thread Nigel Horne
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have received this communication in error, please notify me immediately by telephone or fax and delete all copies of the original message. How can I do that if you don't quote

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:57:27 -0600 (CST) Damian Menscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that really so hard to understand? Phishing IS NOT a virus! Is that really so hard to understand? 95% of internet worms are not viruses as

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Jan 27, 2005, at 11:29 AM, Tomasz Kojm wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:27:00 -0500 Adam Tauno Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just my two cents - I agree with the other guy. CLAM should blocks virii and worms, and leave SPAM to something else. Just think of the Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Maul
Damian Menscher wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that really so hard to understand? Phishing IS NOT a virus! Is that really so hard to understand? Ok, so its not a virus, and its not spam. So neither product should detect it your saying? How about both

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 Damian Menscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: Phishing IS NOT spam! Is that really so hard to understand? Phishing IS NOT a virus! Is that really so hard to understand? 95% of internet worms

RE: [Clamav-users] ClamAV 0.81 works great

2005-01-27 Thread GVeri
Nigel, You are far too detailed. Gord CONFIDENTIALITY WARNING: The information in the e:mail is confidential and privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity it is addressed to. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the authorized

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread C. Bensend
Ok, so its not a virus, and its not spam. So neither product should detect it your saying? How about both products detect it, we have overlap, and users are happy cause they dont have to deal with this crap in their inbox. Personally, I'd love to have it as a config option in clamd.conf.

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Jim Maul wrote: Is it causing you (or anyone for that matter) a problem by clamav catching some phishing attempts as opposed to spamassassin catching them? Whats really the issue here? You just dont believe clamav is the right tool for that job, but is there REALLY a

[Clamav-users] Building clamav 0.81 (broken zlib?)

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Maul
I am building clamav from src rpm from crash-hat. It build just fine but i get the message: configure: WARNING: ** This ClamAV installation may be linked against configure: WARNING: ** a broken zlib version. Please DO NOT report any configure: WARNING: ** stability problems to the

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Maul
Damian Menscher wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Jim Maul wrote: Is it causing you (or anyone for that matter) a problem by clamav catching some phishing attempts as opposed to spamassassin catching them? Whats really the issue here? You just dont believe clamav is the right tool for that job, but

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:08:12 -0600 (CST) Damian Menscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...which is why, in my original email, I referred to things that propagate automatically without intervention from their author. OK, so what about the trojans? ;-) -- oo. Tomasz Kojm [EMAIL

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Dennis Peterson
Sam said: Also to Damian: I understand what you are saying, but tend to agree more with Jim. What does it matter who catches it as long as it's caught? The answer to this is simple: my policy for dealing with spam is quite different than my policy for dealing with viruses. Spam is annoying,

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 Damian Menscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...which is why, in my original email, I referred to things that propagate automatically without intervention from their author. OK, so what about the trojans? ;-) I take the somewhat-unusual

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:27:48 -0600 (CST) Damian Menscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Tomasz Kojm wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 Damian Menscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...which is why, in my original email, I referred to things that propagate automatically without

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Dave Goodrich
Jim Maul wrote: snip If my car is broken usually I take it to a mechanic. But if a friend of mine who happens to be a plumber can fix it also, does it really matter if I bring it to him instead? No. -Jim Ok, I took part in the previous discussion and I accept the developers decision. But I

[Clamav-users] Latest CVS / outdated warning

2005-01-27 Thread Michael Brennen
:01 ... clamd[27135]: clamd daemon devel-20050127 (OS: linux-gnu,ARCH: i386, CPU: i686) # freshclam -V ClamAV devel-20050127/689/Thu Jan 27 07:33:10 2005 # freshclam -v Current working dir is /.../ Max retries == 5 ClamAV update process started at Thu Jan 27 11:49:01 2005 Querying

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread BitFuzzy
You know, this gets old real quick! Back when this debate first started (around November or so) I never thought it would stop. In November I decided to do 2 things 1 log what virus's were being caught, where they were going, and what virus was detected. Out of 446 detected viruses, 167 were

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Ken Jones
From: http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/01/21/04FEphishing_1.html?source=NLC-WS2005-01-26 Phishers are employing increasingly sophisticated techniques, such as malicious code buried in images, keystroke-logging applications that download as soon as an e-mail is opened, and spoofed Web sites

Re: [Clamav-users] ClamAV 0.81 works great

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:59:57 - in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nigel Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have received this communication in error, please notify me immediately by

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 09:25 -0800, Dennis Peterson wrote: We do a lot of on-line commerce. We cannot tolerate many false positives. Phishing exploits are something we deal with through education first, and filtering second. As phishers become more sophisticated and numerous false positives

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Trog wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 09:25 -0800, Dennis Peterson wrote: We do a lot of on-line commerce. We cannot tolerate many false positives. Phishing exploits are something we deal with through education first, and filtering second. As phishers become more sophisticated

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 11:14 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Jim Maul wrote: Is it causing you (or anyone for that matter) a problem by clamav catching some phishing attempts as opposed to spamassassin catching them? Whats really the issue here? You just dont believe

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81 default clamd.conf and clamav-milter

2005-01-27 Thread Kul
trying to start clamav-milter from 0.81 I get: Starting clamav-milter: /usr/sbin/clamav-milter: ScanMail not defined in /etc/clamd.conf (needed without --external) What are your clamav-milter options? Petr Hi Guys Sorry this thread doesn't follow, I have just sbscribed here, and dont have a

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 12:32 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote: And how many Phishing false positives have you had exactly? All of them. ;) Seriously, that's an unfair question. When you're deleting people's email, how would they find out if there was a false positive? With spam, it's

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81 default clamd.conf and clamav-milter

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 18:37 +, Kul wrote: trying to start clamav-milter from 0.81 I get: Starting clamav-milter: /usr/sbin/clamav-milter: ScanMail not defined in /etc/clamd.conf (needed without --external) What are your clamav-milter options? Uncomment the ScanMail option in

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Jim Maul
Damian Menscher wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Trog wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 09:25 -0800, Dennis Peterson wrote: We do a lot of on-line commerce. We cannot tolerate many false positives. Phishing exploits are something we deal with through education first, and filtering second. As phishers

RE: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread John Gallagher
The more tools that you have the likelihood of filtering it out increases. Just because I run ClamAv on the mail exchanger does not mean I do not run AV on our Exchange server and all of our desktop machines. Firewalls can do IDS functions, AV applications for the desktop are now including Anti

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Trog wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 12:32 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote: Seriously, that's an unfair question. When you're deleting people's email, how would they find out if there was a false positive? With spam, it's standard practice to review a junk-mail box for false

Re: [Clamav-users] 0.81 default clamd.conf and clamav-milter

2005-01-27 Thread Nigel Horne
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 18:37, Kul wrote: trying to start clamav-milter from 0.81 I get: Starting clamav-milter: /usr/sbin/clamav-milter: ScanMail not defined in /etc/clamd.conf (needed without --external) What are your clamav-milter options? Petr Hi Guys Sorry this thread

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread jef moskot
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Jim Maul wrote: What if the plumber and the mechanic work on it together? ;) What if the electrician goes to night school to learn ornithology? ___ http://lists.clamav.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 12:45 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote: Another is your assertion that my initial assumptions were incorrect when I suggested that phishing signatures were more likely to create false positives as a result of being more likely to be matching plaintext. Which initial

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Trog wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 12:45 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote: Another is your assertion that my initial assumptions were incorrect when I suggested that phishing signatures were more likely to create false positives as a result of being more likely to be matching

[Clamav-users] Re: clamav-users Digest, Vol 5, Issue 70

2005-01-27 Thread Kul
snip trying to start clamav-milter from 0.81 I get: Starting clamav-milter: /usr/sbin/clamav-milter: ScanMail not defined in /etc/clamd.conf (needed without --external) What are your clamav-milter options? Petr Hi Guys Sorry this thread doesn't follow, I have just sbscribed here, and

Re: [Clamav-users] Re: clamav-users Digest, Vol 5, Issue 70

2005-01-27 Thread Nigel Horne
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 19:12, Kul wrote: Then the restart: Starting clamd: [ OK ] Starting clamav-milter: /usr/local/sbin/clamav-milter: --max-children must be given in internal mode [ ** ] Had to do a roll back to 0.80, but I can install 0.81 on the backup mailserver as nobody will

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 13:05 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote: Oh, ok. Apparently we have a different definition of plaintext. I generally take anything using only the lower 7 bits (ASCII table) to mean plaintext, and things that use the 8th bit to mean binary. Regardless of your definition

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:54:22 -0500 (EST) in [EMAIL PROTECTED] jef moskot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Jim Maul wrote: What if the plumber and the mechanic work on it together? ;) What if the electrician goes to night school to learn ornithology? Electrified owls? --

[Clamav-users] errors using clamav 0.81 with amavisd-new-2.2.1]

2005-01-27 Thread Erik Slooff
Hi all, When using clamav 0.81rc1 with amavisd-new I get these errors: Jan 22 12:05:22 donkeykong amavis[24030]: (24030-07) Mail::ClamAV av-scanner FAILED: statchkdir() only works if a database directory was specified to new() at (eval 35) line 62. clamav is configured in amavisd-new

[Clamav-users] ScanStream: read poll failed error occurs with 0.81 release

2005-01-27 Thread exo dia
Hello, The latest 0.81 release of clamav now displays ERROR: ScanStream: accept() failed. errors in the logs for some incoming e-mails. For example if I send the Test #6: Eicar virus embedded within another MIME segment test from http://www.webmail.us/testvirus it causes this error, where with

Re: [Clamav-users] ScanStream: read poll failed error occurs with 0.81 release

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 11:44 -0800, exo dia wrote: Hello, The latest 0.81 release of clamav now displays ERROR: ScanStream: accept() failed. errors in the logs for some incoming e-mails. For example if I send the Test #6: Eicar virus embedded within another MIME segment test from

Re: [Clamav-users] ScanStream: read poll failed error occurs with 0.81 release

2005-01-27 Thread Trog
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 11:44 -0800, exo dia wrote: Hello, The latest 0.81 release of clamav now displays ERROR: ScanStream: accept() failed. errors in the logs for some incoming e-mails. For example if I send the Test #6: Eicar virus embedded within another MIME segment test from

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Trog wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 13:05 -0600, Damian Menscher wrote: Oh, ok. Apparently we have a different definition of plaintext. I generally take anything using only the lower 7 bits (ASCII table) to mean plaintext, and things that use the 8th bit to mean binary.

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Dennis Peterson
On Thu, 2005-01-27 at 09:25 -0800, Dennis Peterson wrote: =20 We do a lot of on-line commerce. We cannot tolerate many false positives. Phishing exploits are something we deal with through education first, and filtering second. As phishers become more sophisticated and numerous fals= e

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Jason Haar
I don't understand what the fuss is. clamAV (like all other AVs) produces a report stating what the malware is. In the case of Phishing, clamAV tags them as *.Phishing.*. So, change your blocking agents to ignore such matches Don't be surprised if they don't have the option, but if you

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Damian Menscher
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Jason Haar wrote: clamAV (like all other AVs) produces a report stating what the malware is. In the case of Phishing, clamAV tags them as *.Phishing.*. So, change your blocking agents to ignore such matches Don't be surprised if they don't have the option, but if

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:29:06 -0600 (CST) Damian Menscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The simplest solution seems to be to write a wrapper around freshclam. You can patch ClamAV to filter out all *Phishing* sigs in libclamav/readdb.c. It should be simpler and more reliable solution. -- oo

Re: [Clamav-users] Phishing Questions

2005-01-27 Thread Brian Morrison
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:30:56 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tomasz Kojm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 14:29:06 -0600 (CST) Damian Menscher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The simplest solution seems to be to write a wrapper around freshclam. You can patch ClamAV to filter out all

Re: [Clamav-users] ScanStream: read poll failed error occurs with 0.81 release

2005-01-27 Thread exo dia
I apologize -- bad cut and paste in my first e-mail subject. This is the error from my logs: Thu Jan 27 11:28:12 2005 - SelfCheck: Database status OK. Thu Jan 27 11:50:15 2005 - ERROR: ScanStream: accept() failed. Thu Jan 27 11:57:43 2005 - ERROR: ScanStream: accept() failed. Thu Jan 27

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