Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

[Alexander Neundorf]

Hi,

On 2018 M02 14, Wed 22:16:54 CEST Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> On 2018 M02 14, Wed 18:46:52 CET Saeed, Khurram wrote:
> > Thanks Alex.
> > Yes it does support generating the project in the build dir. It also works
> > while generating in a subdir of the source dir. Eclipse version control
> > plugin also works (I am using git).
> 
> Interesting.
> How did you get that working ?
> 
> Let's say the directories look like this:
> 
> src/CMakeLists.txt
> build/CMakeCache.txt
> build/.project
> build/.cproject
> 
> I guess this is what you generate, right ?
> How do you get the source tree into this project ?
> The Eclipse-generator in cmake uses a "linked resource" to the source dir,
> but the version control plugin is not activated for those files.
> According to the Subversion-Plugin developers this is because the source
> files are then outside the "project directory", i.e. no below the directory
> where the .project file is located.
> 
> So I'm really interested how you got that working.
> Can you send the .project and .cproject files for a simple hello-world
> project, built out-of-source ?

any news here ?

Alex

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Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

[Alexander Neundorf]

On 2018 M02 14, Wed 18:46:52 CET Saeed, Khurram wrote:
> Thanks Alex.
> Yes it does support generating the project in the build dir. It also works
> while generating in a subdir of the source dir. Eclipse version control
> plugin also works (I am using git).

Interesting.
How did you get that working ?

Let's say the directories look like this:

src/CMakeLists.txt
build/CMakeCache.txt
build/.project
build/.cproject

I guess this is what you generate, right ?
How do you get the source tree into this project ?
The Eclipse-generator in cmake uses a "linked resource" to the source dir, but 
the version control plugin is not activated for those files.
According to the Subversion-Plugin developers this is because the source files 
are then outside the "project directory", i.e. no below the directory where 
the .project file is located.

So I'm really interested how you got that working.
Can you send the .project and .cproject files for a simple hello-world project, 
built out-of-source ?

Alex

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Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

[Saeed, Khurram]

Thanks Alex. 
Yes it does support generating the project in the build dir. It also works 
while generating in a subdir of the source dir. Eclipse version control plugin 
also works (I am using git). 

Best Regards,
Khurram

-Original Message-
From: Alexander Neundorf [mailto:neund...@kde.org] 
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2018 1:03 AM
To: Saeed, Khurram 
Cc: cmake-developers@cmake.org
Subject: Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

Hi,

On 2018 M02 9, Fri 13:16:19 CET Saeed, Khurram wrote:
> Hi Alex,
> 
> I have not made it available anywhere so far. Although my target while 
> writing this generator was only to make it work for ReadyStart projects.
> However, I think with some effort down the road it might be possible 
> to use it for normal Eclipse CDT projects as well.
> 
> We want to make it available to general public but we have been 
> wondering whether or not it would be "acceptable" to have a generator 
> that generates managed Eclipse CDT projects?

well, Brad is the maintainer.
I think in general a "real" Eclipse CDT project generator would be preferred 
over the existing one which generates a makefile-based project for Eclipse.

I could try to support you a bit.

Does it support generating the project in the build dir, i.e. outside the 
source dir (or in a subdir of the source dir), and does then the Eclipse 
version control plugin (svn/git) work ?

Alex

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Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

[Alexander Neundorf]

Hi,

On 2018 M02 9, Fri 13:16:19 CET Saeed, Khurram wrote:
> Hi Alex,
> 
> I have not made it available anywhere so far. Although my target while
> writing this generator was only to make it work for ReadyStart projects.
> However, I think with some effort down the road it might be possible to use
> it for normal Eclipse CDT projects as well.
> 
> We want to make it available to general public but we have been wondering
> whether or not it would be "acceptable" to have a generator that generates
> managed Eclipse CDT projects?

well, Brad is the maintainer.
I think in general a "real" Eclipse CDT project generator would be preferred 
over the existing one which generates a makefile-based project for Eclipse.

I could try to support you a bit.

Does it support generating the project in the build dir, i.e. outside the 
source dir (or in a subdir of the source dir), and does then the Eclipse 
version control plugin (svn/git) work ?

Alex

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Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

[Saeed, Khurram]

Hi Alex,

I have not made it available anywhere so far. Although my target while writing 
this generator was only to make it work for ReadyStart projects. However, I 
think with some effort down the road it might be possible to use it for normal 
Eclipse CDT projects as well.

We want to make it available to general public but we have been wondering 
whether or not it would be "acceptable" to have a generator that generates 
managed Eclipse CDT projects?

Best Regards,
Khurram 

-Original Message-
From: Alexander Neundorf [mailto:neund...@kde.org] 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 2:03 AM
To: Saeed, Khurram 
Cc: cmake-developers@cmake.org
Subject: Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

Hi Kurram,

On 2018 M02 7, Wed 12:09:54 CET Saeed, Khurram wrote:
> Hi Neundorf,
> This generator can only be used for generating Nucleus ReadyStart IDE 
> projects. It generates Eclipse CDT project files that use ReadyStart 
> specific plugins and configurations.

I have the impression Brad was not overly excited.
On the other I have the impression that the Eclipse CDT team is also not overly 
excited of the cmake server mode (at least 2 years ago when I was on the 
mailing list).

Would it be hard to extend your generator so that it can also be used for 
"normal" Eclipse CDT projects ? Is it already available somewhere, e.g. github ?

Alex

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Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

[Saeed, Khurram]

Hi Brad,

Yes those files are driving the actual build. I cannot use one of the existing 
generators because Nucleus ReadyStart projects are built using Eclipse CDT 
managed build system.

Best Regards,
Khurram


-Original Message-
From: cmake-developers [mailto:cmake-developers-boun...@cmake.org] On Behalf Of 
Brad King
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 5:35 PM
To: cmake-developers@cmake.org
Subject: Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

On 02/02/2018 10:05 AM, Saeed, Khurram wrote:
> In this generator we are generating .project and .cproject files for 
> Nucleus ReadyStart application.

Are those files driving the actual build?

These days the way to support IDEs tends to be using the cmake server mode:

  https://cmake.org/cmake/help/v3.10/manual/cmake-server.7.html

along with one of the existing generators.

-Brad
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Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

[Alexander Neundorf]

Hi Kurram,

On 2018 M02 7, Wed 12:09:54 CET Saeed, Khurram wrote:
> Hi Neundorf,
> This generator can only be used for generating Nucleus ReadyStart IDE
> projects. It generates Eclipse CDT project files that use ReadyStart
> specific plugins and configurations.

I have the impression Brad was not overly excited.
On the other I have the impression that the Eclipse CDT team is also not 
overly excited of the cmake server mode (at least 2 years ago when I was on 
the mailing list).

Would it be hard to extend your generator so that it can also be used for 
"normal" Eclipse CDT projects ? Is it already available somewhere, e.g. github 
?

Alex

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Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

[Saeed, Khurram]

Hi Neundorf,
This generator can only be used for generating Nucleus ReadyStart IDE projects. 
It generates Eclipse CDT project files that use ReadyStart specific plugins and 
configurations.

Best Regards,
Khurram

-Original Message-
From: Alexander Neundorf [mailto:neund...@kde.org] 
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 2:50 AM
To: cmake-developers@cmake.org
Cc: Saeed, Khurram 
Subject: Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

Hi Saeed,

On 2018 M02 2, Fri 15:05:19 CET Saeed, Khurram wrote:
> Hi,
> Nucleus
> ReadyStart<https://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/nucleus/readystart
> /> is an eclipse<https://www.eclipse.org/ide/> based IDE by Mentor 
> Embedded(tm).
> It is used for creating and building C/C++ based Nucleus 
> RTOS<https://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/nucleus/> projects for 
> embedded devices. We have added a new generator in CMake to give the 
> option of generating Nucleus ReadyStart based projects to our 
> customers. This is not a 'make-based' generator as Nucleus ReadyStart 
> projects are built using Eclipse CDT managed build system. In this 
> generator we are generating .project and .cproject files for Nucleus 
> ReadyStart application.
> 
> Do you think we can contribute this generator to community?

does that mean it also works for "normal" Eclipse CDT, or only for ReadyStart ?
If it works for Eclipse in general, I would happily remove the current Eclipse 
CDT generator (which I wrote).
Do all tests pass using your generator ?

Alex

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Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

[Brad King]

On 02/02/2018 10:05 AM, Saeed, Khurram wrote:
> In this generator we are generating .project and .cproject files
> for Nucleus ReadyStart application.

Are those files driving the actual build?

These days the way to support IDEs tends to be using the
cmake server mode:

  https://cmake.org/cmake/help/v3.10/manual/cmake-server.7.html

along with one of the existing generators.

-Brad
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Re: [cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

[Alexander Neundorf]

Hi Saeed,

On 2018 M02 2, Fri 15:05:19 CET Saeed, Khurram wrote:
> Hi,
> Nucleus
> ReadyStart is
> an eclipse based IDE by Mentor Embedded(tm).
> It is used for creating and building C/C++ based Nucleus
> RTOS projects for
> embedded devices. We have added a new generator in CMake to give the option
> of generating Nucleus ReadyStart based projects to our customers. This is
> not a 'make-based' generator as Nucleus ReadyStart projects are built using
> Eclipse CDT managed build system. In this generator we are generating
> .project and .cproject files for Nucleus ReadyStart application.
> 
> Do you think we can contribute this generator to community?

does that mean it also works for "normal" Eclipse CDT, or only for ReadyStart 
?
If it works for Eclipse in general, I would happily remove the current Eclipse 
CDT generator (which I wrote).
Do all tests pass using your generator ?

Alex

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[cmake-developers] Adding a non-make based generator

[Saeed, Khurram]

Hi,
Nucleus 
ReadyStart is an 
eclipse based IDE by Mentor Embedded(tm). It is 
used for creating and building C/C++ based Nucleus 
RTOS projects for embedded 
devices.
We have added a new generator in CMake to give the option of generating Nucleus 
ReadyStart based projects to our customers. This is not a 'make-based' 
generator as Nucleus ReadyStart projects are built using Eclipse CDT managed 
build system. In this generator we are generating .project and .cproject files 
for Nucleus ReadyStart application.

Do you think we can contribute this generator to community?

Thanks and Best Regards,
Khurram Saeed, Senior Technical Lead, Mentor Graphics
khurram_sa...@mentor.com
www.mentor.com

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