Re: Stus-List Max-Prop settings

2014-08-15 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Sounds like you nailed it. I wouldn't change anything. Joel On Friday, August 15, 2014, Bill Hoyne via CnC-List wrote: > Hi > > The max RPM is 3200 and we could get to that value no problem, didn’t want > to hold it there for too long, just a few minutes. We did a 20 min test at > 3000 RPM wher

Re: Stus-List Nice sail but dangerous waters in harbor

2014-08-15 Thread Jack Brennan via CnC-List
Gators are a lot more docile than you think. When my younger daughter was about 11, she did a school report on the Everglades. I took her on an 18-mile bike trip through Shark Valley in Everglades National Park. Well, the cover of the report was a photo of her standing there in her bike helmet

Re: Stus-List Prop size/pitch for a Yanmar 1GM10 in a 27 MkII

2014-08-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
It is hard to say but a dirty bottom CAN be that big of an effect. Josh On Aug 15, 2014 6:20 PM, "Paul Baker via CnC-List" wrote: > Hi Folks, > Any 27MkII folks out there with a Yanmar 1GM10 diesel? What prop do you > have on there, and is it able to achieve max rpm under load? I can't > recal

Re: Stus-List Nice sail but dangerous waters in harbor

2014-08-15 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
The best I can do is while nearly asleep in the quarterberth at my slip, I heard the unmistakable sound of a carp slamming full speed into the rudder. The next morning it lay dead in the water near my boat. Big too. No alligators in Lake Winnipeg, just sea monsters. Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg

Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue.

2014-08-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I just worked on a Yanmar (model unknown) starter. There was a relay or something on the side of the block under the starter. The wire (white) from the start side of the key switch went to the relay. Another wire (orange) went from the relay to the solenoid. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandevil

Re: Stus-List Nice sail but dangerous waters in harbor

2014-08-15 Thread schiller via CnC-List
So, what exactly is a "moderately sized alligator"? To me, anything bigger than a pet store size is bigger than a "moderately sized alligator". We don't have much in Lake Michigan that wants to eat us! Neil Schiller 1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7 (C&C 35, Mark I) "Corsair" 538243 On 8/15/2014 8:42

Stus-List Prop size/pitch for a Yanmar 1GM10 in a 27 MkII

2014-08-15 Thread Paul Baker via CnC-List
Hi Folks, Any 27MkII folks out there with a Yanmar 1GM10 diesel? What prop do you have on there, and is it able to achieve max rpm under load? I can't recall what I have (3 blade but don't know size/pitch) but at 2700rpm I am billowing black smoke and still only doing 5kts. Dirty bottom is go

Re: Stus-List Max-Prop settings

2014-08-15 Thread Bill Hoyne via CnC-List
Hi The max RPM is 3200 and we could get to that value no problem, didn’t want to hold it there for too long, just a few minutes. We did a 20 min test at 3000 RPM where we held 6.8 knots. No problems were found and although very loud she ran well. There was no current, wind or waves to speak o

Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue.

2014-08-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The fuse to which we are all refering is upstream of the key switch. If you hear a buzzer/low oil pressure alarm then the fuse is fine. I would check voltage going to the panel and voltage back to the start solenoid. As Dwight suggested the button could be bad so a resistance check across the but

Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue.

2014-08-15 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Check the starter button. Also inline fuses. bad contacts,not just blow fuses can cause this. On Friday, August 15, 2014, Brad Crawford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I switch the key on, the alarm buzzer buzzes as normal, I depress the > start button, and the only thing I see

Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue.

2014-08-15 Thread Brad Crawford via CnC-List
I switch the key on, the alarm buzzer buzzes as normal, I depress the start button, and the only thing I see or hear, is the lights light up on the control panel. No clicking sounds, no starter sounds, nothing. I will check out and go through the start circuit wiring. Thanks, Brad C&C

Re: Stus-List Max-Prop settings

2014-08-15 Thread dwight via CnC-List
Bill Are those speeds in flat water with no significant current? I can't comment specifically on the Max prop but I have a nominal 30 hp Universal M4-30 diesel engine in my 35 MKII and I use a 3 blade Autoprop, which is self pitching so it chooses for itself what is the proper pitch for a

Re: Stus-List Max-Prop settings

2014-08-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Oh and resetting the pitch means another haul (more money). Live with it at least till next season's haul. Josh On Aug 15, 2014 12:30 PM, "Bill Hoyne via CnC-List" wrote: > Hi All, > Here are the results of my Max Prop issues. > > I have a C&C 35 Mk II with a Volvo Penta 2003 28hp with a 2.4:1

Re: Stus-List Max-Prop settings

2014-08-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Be careful over pitching it cause continuously running the engine below 80% of full load can cause other problems such as coking up the exhaust elbow and glazing the cylinders. Lots of people like the idea of over pitching the prop to run a little faster at a lower rpm. I say, the difference in s

Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue.

2014-08-15 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
> Could it be heat related. As the temp rises so does the DC resistance. If the start / run wiring has loose or corroded connections or undersized / corroded wires they may pass enough voltage and current to work at lower temperatures but not when hot. A starter solenoid may suffer from voltag

Re: Stus-List Max-Prop settings

2014-08-15 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Bill, Couple thoughts: If you are getting a max of 3000 rpm you already have too much pitch. I would not go up; I might go down one click. You should cruise at 80% of max rpm or 2500-2600 rpm. I have a 35/3 with a max-prop set to 14 degrees, but my reduction gear is 2.6:1 I get to 3500 rpm with

Stus-List blown alternator diode

2014-08-15 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
When I blew my diodes, the engine controls charging light came on... The guy I bought my alternator from is still on Ebay Just search for Yanmar 3GM30 Alternator on eBay. He's selling them for $120.00 free shipping for a 55 or 60 amp brand new fully insulated Hitachi. I think Hitachi is the O

Re: Stus-List Max-Prop settings

2014-08-15 Thread Bill Hoyne via CnC-List
Hi All, Here are the results of my Max Prop issues. I have a C&C 35 Mk II with a Volvo Penta 2003 28hp with a 2.4:1 reduction MS2B transmission max RPM is 3200. The prop is a left rotation. The Max Prop is 14” and set to 24 deg (X=C, Y=E). This gives 11.6” pitch. The original settings were way

Re: Stus-List blown alternator diode

2014-08-15 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List
I read that here on an earlier C&C thread - but I thought that you could switch between 1 - both - 2 without a problem - just don't flip through the "off" position. I did find a MaineSail article on SailBoat Owners where he describes re-wiring the sw

Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue.

2014-08-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sorry, I guess I should have more accurately referred to it as a secondary starting solenoid. Josh On Aug 15, 2014 11:00 AM, "Josh Muckley" wrote: > Do you have a separate starting relay? I think it was on this list that > someone was saying that the wires, push button and key switch are not >

Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue.

2014-08-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Do you have a separate starting relay? I think it was on this list that someone was saying that the wires, push button and key switch are not robust enough for the starter. A secondary relay solves this and prevents drawing too much current. You'll probably never have to even look at the fuse ag

Re: Stus-List blown alternator diode

2014-08-15 Thread dwight via CnC-List
Thought most were make before break switches Dwight Veinot C&C 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Tauber via CnC-List Sent: August 15, 2014 10:34 AM To: j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com; cnc-list

Re: Stus-List blown alternator diode

2014-08-15 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
Too true, and the alternator can seem ok while charging. Happened to us on a friend's boat in Florida this winter. Took the alternator to a Miami alternator shop, they put it on a machine, it produced 14.7 V and they said it was ok. We later discovered that the alternator was getting warm every

Re: Stus-List blown alternator diode

2014-08-15 Thread Petar Horvatic via CnC-List
Lower output in measured DC Amps. For the more electrically savvy, higher ripple as now you have less than 6 diodes rectifying. On a better quality and higher output alternators, like balmar, amptech etc, you can see them built into the body, shiny circles with numbers on them, sometimes

Re: Stus-List blown alternator diode

2014-08-15 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
The most common cause of diode failure on older boats is turning the battery 1-2-all switch while the engine is running. This causes a brief period of no load on the alternator and blows the diodes. Jerry C&C 27 V -Original Message- From: Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List To: Burt Strat

Re: Stus-List Nice sail but dangerous waters in harbor

2014-08-15 Thread Curtis via CnC-List
Got to love it. Adventure !!! On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Finished a couple boat jobs yesterday and decided to go out on the lake > for a late afternoon sail. Not much breeze but a pleasant sail nonetheless. > > After the pleasant un

Re: Stus-List blown alternator diode

2014-08-15 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Also, you will notice that your batteries will discharge much faster than normal when used sail if it is the blocking diodes that have failed as the alternator will become a very large drain. Jack Fitzgerald C&C 39 TM Savannah, GA On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List < cnc

Stus-List Nice sail but dangerous waters in harbor

2014-08-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Finished a couple boat jobs yesterday and decided to go out on the lake for a late afternoon sail. Not much breeze but a pleasant sail nonetheless. After the pleasant uneventful sail, I entered Mandeville Harbor afterwards (30 20' 50", 90 03' 46"). There was a guy on the seawall fighting a fish.

Re: Stus-List blown alternator diode

2014-08-15 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
Simple answer: Most do have internal diodes. To be sure you can google the part number of the alternator or look it up on the manufacturers web site. You should see around 13.5 to 14 ish volts across your starting battery terminals when running. It will vary a little depending on the cond

Re: Stus-List blown alternator diode

2014-08-15 Thread wwadjourn
The thread on alternators got me to ask myself, "how do you known if you have an internal diode on alternator, and how do you know if "blown?" I am, electrically challenged, admittedly. Bill Walker CnC 36 Sent from my HTC ___ This List is provided by

Re: Stus-List Alternator for Yanmar 3GM30

2014-08-15 Thread s/v Johanna Rose via CnC-List
Take a look at Spider Marine. They have a new Hitachi 60Amp alternator for the 3GM30 listed for $120. http://www.spidermarine.com/inventory/search/make/yanmar%20marine/model-and-submodel/3gm30/year//liters/0/engine-type/any/fuel-type/any/aspiration/a -- Paul E C&C Landfall 38 S/V Johanna Ro

Stus-List Alternator for Yanmar 3gm30

2014-08-15 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
Hi, I bought mine on ebay last year. I paid 85-90 bucks shipped. It's a genuine Hitachi 55 or 60 amps fully insulated with the exact same connections / look / mounting as the original Yanmar (I think they are made by Hitachi). I took the opportunity to throw in a new belt as well. It was a plug and

Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue.

2014-08-15 Thread Raymond Macklin via CnC-List
Everyone: Thanks for the input. I replaced the 30 amp fuse like i was instructed and it started up right away. Brad brings up a good point. Could it be heat related. I guess I should have tried starting it before replacing the fuse, but i immediately changed the fuse and it worked. I looked at