Re: Stus-List Fwd: Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Glen Eddie via CnC-List
If you purchase, where will you be keeping her if you go ahead with the deal. Glen Eddie Tel: 416-777-5357 Fax: 1-888-812-2557 Torkin Manes LLP Barristers & Solicitors This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain content that

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
An A4 does not a dealbreaker make. I looked at the issue of A4 vs Diesel this way: 30 year old diesel or 30 old gasser. The boats with the 30 year old diesel had about on average, a 5k markup over their A4 brethren. A 30 year old motor, is a 30 year old motor, is a 30 year old motor. Gas or

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I was not suggesting an A4 was a bad thing – the old diesel would have no parts or support at all and the A4 is very well supported. Just that if the engine – of ANY kind – is RWC and the boat was used in salt water to keep in mind that is a long time for an engine to last in salt. My original

Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
There are lots of resources for prop calculators but try the one below. You'll have to know your engine max rpm and transmission gear ratio. It will also be help to know the clearance from the shaft to the hull. Consider a 3 blade for less slip. This is also a good time to seriously consider a

Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-03 Thread Sam Wheeler via CnC-List
Hi everyone, I recently bought a 35-3, and one of the projects it came with was the prop had galvanic corrosion and needed to be replaced. It's a fixed two blade. The previous owners adjusted the pitch on it, apparently from 10 to 8. They seemed to think that improved performance but the

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Are you using a broker? Did you exchange money? Did you sign a contract? A typical brokered deal will follow an AYBA flowpath. The "deal" would be signing a contract and putting 10% down (held in escrow). This earns you a contracted amount of time (usually 30 days) to get a survey and a loan

Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-03 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
Sam, IIRC, I’m swinging a 10x16 Martec elliptical prop. Good forward performance. Reverse requires a lot of rpms to get a response, but it works for me. I’m just a high speed – low drag racer anyway. Jake Jake Brodersen C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” Hampton VA From:

Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Joel reminded me, I forgot to mention that a properly pitched prop will reach max engine RPM. My Yanmar has an instantaneous rating of 3600rpm, a 1 hour rating of 3400rpm, and a continuous rating of 3200rpm. The correlating horse power changes with each rating. I chose the 1 hour rating when

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Rino Granito via CnC-List
I would add that a 30 year old diesel that is well taken of, and is operated within its parameteres is virtually indestructable.. But run a diesel cold, forget to change oil, put in the wrong oil.. and you have a dead weight within 10 years.. AAn Atomic 4 is a great engine, its very forgiving,

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Rino Granito via CnC-List
For the next two years we will be at the Royal St Lawrence in Montreal, then its off to Marigot St Martin for a year or so, then les Azores , after that the Netherlands, then we shall see. but my dream is the northern passage (in a convoy) but time will tell, how far we get once in St martin..

Re: Stus-List Advice needed on Rigging Maintenance

2016-02-03 Thread kelly petew via CnC-List
Thanks very much for the information. As always, it is most helpful. Fair Winds, Pete W.Siren Song1991 30-2Deltaville, VA From: kellype...@msn.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Advice needed on Rigging Maintenance Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 16:17:51 -0500 My 30-2 is now 25 years old

Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-03 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Sam, Congrats! It shows you are a man of intellect and taste! My MaxProp 2 blade is set to 14 degrees. Prior owners tried 12 and 16 before settling on 14. It depends on the diameter of the prop as well as the pitch. If the engine revs to max RPM with a clean bottom it is pitched properly. 8

Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding

2016-02-03 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
After rain recently I noticed a little rust-colored water leaking out from behind my chainplate on the port bulkhead on the interior. The chainplates themselves look shiny and new, but I'm afraid some water ingress has rusted some of the bolts through the bulkhead. I resealed where both

Re: Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding

2016-02-03 Thread Joseph Bognar via CnC-List
My 1979 C had leaking chain Plates. It rotted out the balsa core and I had a 2 ft square area around the chain plates re done . Access to the chain plates is really easy . You can reach the fasteners from the lockers on each side Sent from Joe Bognar > On Feb 3, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Ryan Doyle

Re: Stus-List repairing large wet deck core areas

2016-02-03 Thread phorvati . via CnC-List
Thanks guys, I will try to tap and sound my way to see how far away from genoa track the rot extends. I have oversized the backing plate back in 2004. I have 2" wide x 3/8" thick aluminum bars as opposed to original which I believe was 1"x1/4". If tapping does not work, I will drill to find

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I could survey a MK I at least better than most professionals IMHO just because I have fixed everything that breaks twice now! Joe Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 11:27 AM To:

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
Peter McGuire, Fastnet Yacht Services. He did mine. I wasn't unhappy with the work but since then I've questioned the value of surveys in general. He didn't tell me anything I didn't know. He did a good job but stayed within his scope. I can send you my survey if you want a sample of the work. I

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Tim Sippel via CnC-List
I would second Peter , and while I agree with Steve’s “He didn’t tell me anything I didn’t know” (I’m guessing in reference to an insurance survey after owning the boat for a period of time) , when it comes to the initial purchase , I’d prefer to go with the “Pro” and attend if possible. IMHO

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
For *insurance* surveys, you want the blind guy that does the survey from the dock. For pre-purchase, you want the guy that wriggles in behind the engine with a light and a mirror. Joe Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Sippel via CnC-List Sent:

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Regardless of the surveyor that you choose, you may want to read and fully understand his disclaimers in his contract before you use him or her. Jack Fitzgerald HONEY - C 39 TM US12788 Savannah, GA On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Rino Granito via CnC-List
Good day.. It has a 3GM Indirect cooling from what I can tell and a Monel fuel tank... again I need to validate this.. Now for the kicker, and please no flaming :( I made an offer based on a discussion and photos , I did not see in person the boat yet.. We already had been on a few 35Mk2 before

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
Echo Steve's comments. Firefly's A4 is 40 years old. Still reliable as hell. Marvel Mystery Oil gets some of the credit Mid-range fuel is better now that there's no lead.. -Original Message- From: "Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List" Sent: ‎2016-‎02-‎03 3:32 PM To:

Re: Stus-List Chainplate inspection/possibly re-bedding

2016-02-03 Thread Ryan Doyle via CnC-List
Thanks so much Joseph. Was this an MK I or an MK II? The balsa core was in your deck? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2016, at 22:16, Joseph Bognar via CnC-List > wrote: > > My 1979 C had leaking chain Plates. It rotted out the balsa core and I > had a 2 ft square

Re: Stus-List Propeller Question for 35-3

2016-02-03 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
I have a spare prop I took off when I replaced it with a Max Prop, 17 X 10 RH. We can talk. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LKRe8QHE_x8/VrLWbGMeEWI/EKU/Zl7I9s_8bVw/s912-Ic42/IMG_7534.JPG Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 3 February 2016 at 16:35, Jake Brodersen

Re: Stus-List repairing large wet deck core areas

2016-02-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
It sounds like you have removed the track? Have you excavated the holes? I would. You may find that any rot doesn't extend too far under. I have found that many of my original fittings have inadequate backing plates. You could excavate the holes, refilled with thickened epoxy and then ensured

Stus-List repairing large wet deck core areas

2016-02-03 Thread Petar Horvatic via CnC-List
Hi all, I am getting ready to tackle the wet deck along the port genoa track and before I start cutting, I have few questions for the group. Gelcoat cracks and delamination is appearing almost the length of the track on my 38 Mk2. I realize that not all spider cracks are due to wet

Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
I used Gert Tiel...not much detail but I knew Alera was my boat when I saw it and just needed something for the valuation re insurance. Besides, who better to survey a C? Tom B Tom Buscaglia SV Alera 1990 C 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.com At 08:48 AM 2/3/2016, you

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Most surveys (pre-purchase and pre-insurance) don't include the rig or the engine. Both can cause significant costs and risks. Each survey is in addition to the basic for about $300 each. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Feb 2, 2016 7:07 PM, "Rino Granito via CnC-List"

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I have had a couple of insurance surveys. If we did a pre-purchase back in 1977 I cannot find it. I had to fight with the insurance surveyors about things related to water/gas tight engine spaces that did not exist in 1973, but other than that no big deal. They also really don’t like CNG unless

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
I only ever had one survey and it was the pre-purchase. Steve Suhana, C 32 Toronto On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I used Gert Tiel...not much detail but I knew Alera was my boat when I saw > it and just needed something for the

Stus-List Fwd: Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Dave Syer via CnC-List
Gert Tiel - that's the Dutch name I could not remember! He worked there. In the plant? Nice guy who generously gave me great advice in a lengthy conversation over the phone as I was evaluating a 35i .(Mystic) Very intimate knowledge of the construction of the boat.Ultimately I took his

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Dave Syer via CnC-List
Rino, Agreed with Steve, after reviewing MANY surveys over and crawling around many boats, over 3 decades, I find most are very superficial indeed.To be fair, most surveyors cannot realistically know the specific issues to look for in each model. That said, we are in C land and several of

Re: Stus-List repairing large wet deck core areas

2016-02-03 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Petar This link shows a recoring project on our former boat http://users.eastlink.ca/~mhoyt/Projects/recore/recore.htm Initially we had 4 stanchions that had cracked deck (not just gelcoat) at the stanchion bases. The first year I recored these four areas only. The link above details that

Re: Stus-List Made an offer on a C 35 mk2

2016-02-03 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
What engine does the boat have? An original A4, if RWC, can be considered fully depreciated by now and most of them are RWC. The optional diesel as a creation made by Westebeake from MG Midget engine blocks. From all I have read, it made a nice little engine but parts are almost impossible to

Re: Stus-List repairing large wet deck core areas

2016-02-03 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
Petar, Based on repairing significant areas of rotten and wet core on Calypso I agree with what Mike Hoyt posted. I did most of Calypso’s repairs from the inside owing to the ease of access and the many contoured areas involved. With a repair under a genoa track, especially if your access to