Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C 25

If you want to get your fanny wet, sail a scow (C or E).  Scow sailors have soggy buns.RonWild CheriC 30-1STL From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 10:14 PM

Re: Stus-List Learning to sail in a small boat

I agree.  I didn't mean to imply I'm against the dinghy; except for beginners.After we learned more on the San Juan 24, a responsive keel boat, we bought a Thistle to race on Sunday.  It was a blast!  You could always tell a Thistle sailor on the lot; wore his knee pads backwards (narrow rail

Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C 25

But then you’ll get your fanny wet. Come on, Bill. From: coltrek via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:46 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: coltrek Subject: Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C 25 If you REALLY want to learn how to sail , buy a 13 - 14 footer and sail for a year or two.

Re: Stus-List Learning to sail in a small boat

I learned to sail in a Columbia 25 MKII.  It was easy because it was forgiving.  My sailboard was a lot more difficult because I had to react quickly.  I do not think it makes much difference in how you learn IF YOU LEARN.  I have sailed boats as small as a Sunfish and as large as a 30 foot

Re: Stus-List 37+ heat

We have Espar (diesel) and Dickinson (LPG) aboard Paikea. Recent work on the Espar reduced the number of heat vents to 3: aft stateroom, Head and under the chart table. Too many heat vents pressure stressed the blower previously and “coked” the unit. Really works well (blows hard) at this

Re: Stus-List Gas/Water key

Have you looked at your local Walmart? https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sea-Dog-Deck-Fill-Key-Nylon/44697222 My local store also offers a Perko metal key and the Sea Dog stainless key that Fred recommended. You'd be surprised how many boaters have lost the key when they come into my marina for a

Stus-List considering C 25

thanks a lot for the additional input, really helpful. Found a surveyor so after I get a tour of the boat on Friday, I'll keep the list posted and probably schedule the survey. Sincerely, Lisle Kingery ___ This list is supported by the generous

Re: Stus-List Learning to sail in a small boat

At my father's sailing school (in Victoria, BC), we taught literally hundreds of people to sail. What kind of boats did we teach on, you ask. We used the best boats my father could find for the purpose, a C 27 and 24. Andy C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA

Re: Stus-List Learning to sail in a small boat

Very good points. Windsurfing will substitute nicely for mall boat sailing. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Neil Andersen via CnC-List > wrote: For what it's worth, many of the sailing schools that I have heard of start

Re: Stus-List Learning to sail in a small boat

For what it's worth, many of the sailing schools that I have heard of start novices out in Catalina/Capri 21's or J24's. Neil Foxfire C 32 Rock Hall, MD Neil Andersen 20691 Jamieson Rd Rock Hall, MD 21661 From: CnC-List on behalf

Stus-List Learning to sail in a small boat

Seems to be interest in this topic. I'm a strange one. I'm a recovering beach cat sailor but I understand the wisdom of learning to sail in a small boat. I greatly improved my sailing acumen with some time on a Laser and again on a Lido (Still have the Lido). Simply put, you can feel the

Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C 25

I'll recant part of my post based on Mark's comments. If you can find a boat with RF and self tailers etc. for under  $5K, get the better equipped boat.   However buying a solid boat like a C instead of a poorer brand, no matter how well equipped will likely be a disappointment.   Sent from my

Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C 25

I'm with Chuck on this.  A couple on the lake bought a Thistle (17ft open craft; very responsive and great in light air)  for their first boat and on the second time out, they dumped it.  Woman would never get back in that or any other boat.We learned in a Venture 21, a very cheap boat, but

Re: Stus-List considering a 1981 C 25 - now head privacy

My 25 Mk1 has folding doors which separate the V-birth from the head, and a curtain to separate the head from the main cabin. I replaced the curtain, slides and slider track. The slides and slider track are RV (as in camper) items. You can find them online at places that supply RV parts.

Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C 25

The only issue I'm familiar with particular to the C 25 Mk2 is the support under the mast in the cabin. While the Mk1 had a substantial beam running across the top of the bulkhead to support the mast, which every Mk1 owner has banged his head on a hundred times, the Mk2 did not. I'm told

Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C 25

In terms of a dinghy, I can only offer-up my experiences - learning the basics with my dad in a small 12-ft and then racing in the 19-ft lightning class, as well as lasers. Like just about any C, the Lightning just 'has it' whether you're speaking of the way she sails or the way she looks doing

Re: Stus-List 1980 Water Systems Questions (Chad Osmond)

I have a 30-2 and both my tanks have leaked. The v-berth was easy as I simply replaced the gray, "RV-like" elbow with a BARBED 90 degree elbow, reinforced tubing, a SS clamp, and plumber's tape. On the starboard tank, the exit hole for the fitting was leaking due to a hairline crack in the

Re: Stus-List 37+ Heat

Daryl, It looks like you're doing it right. Welcome to the list. Just remember not to reply to the digest posts and to trim the message tails. As for your heater. I would suggest that you give it a season or two before you make any changes. You'll find plenty of things that NEED done before

Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C 25

For what it is worth, As a first boat I owned a 13' FJ dinghy that taught me nothing about sailing a 4000lb keelboat. Both that boat and my Laser made me realize that I like to sail and like to swim, just not at the same time. Our 25mk1 allowed us overnight accommodations for a young family and

Stus-List 37+ Heat

Hi all, first time replying to anything here, no idea if I'm doing this right or not. This was our first summer with a 1989 37/40+, it has a Webasto diesel heater mounted in the locker with the engine controls, installed by the previous owner, have never tried it, assuming all works but we have no

Re: Stus-List considering a 1981 C 25 - now head privacy

The reason I thought of (Sailrite) YKK zippers is the abandoned 24 down the slip had the zippers with snaps. I sure can snaps only, the receiving end is already in place. bd On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Bill, > > My 35-1 came with a

Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C 25

If you REALLY want to learn how to sail  , buy a 13 - 14 footer and sail for a year or two. You will learn so much quicker on a small boat. Sorry if I'm raining on your parade! Regards, BillColemanC 39 Original message From: "Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List"

Stus-List considering a 1981 C 25 - now head privacy

Bill, My 35-1 came with a heavy bifold door for V-berth privacy. Removed it and replaced it with a curtain with snaps. Installed snap studs in the headliner on either side of the passageway. We just simply snap the curtain in and snap it out. Fold it and store it. You might consider a

Re: Stus-List 37+ heat

Crazy legs I have a Dickenson heater for sale at mbsc if you'd like to have a look. Message me for info higgs...@hotmail.com Dave Zeilboot 30-1 Sent from my iPhone On Aug 29, 2017, at 12:03 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List considering purchasing a 1981 C 25

Our 25MKII (1981) bought in February, transported from WI, has been fantastic. The decks are good, chain plates dry, and every point I rebed was dry. The OMC saildrive will push us over 7kts and surprised me with how quiet relative to the diesels I've heard. I bought a spare OMC Saildrive just

Re: Stus-List 1980 Water Systems Questions

Isn't it great to be sitting on the low side going upwind with a big grin at 20-25kts?  And yet it will go in lighter air, just might not make the handicap.RonWild CheriC 30-1STL From: Michael Brown via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Michael Brown

Re: Stus-List considering C 25

Lisle, the main thing to be wary of is falling in love with the boat...which you will do...I did, and now I'm on my 4th C(25, 29, 33-II and 37); as are many of the good people on this list.! Do get the survey, and do check out the things needing improvement or repairs, but also know

Re: Stus-List 1980 Water Systems Questions

Must have had great quality control to replicate the same failure ;-) I have been on a few 30-1, no two the same so far but all great boats. I was racing last Tuesday, had the rarely used blade up and a full main at 20 - 25 kts. A wind line took us to 36 kts, eased the main and jib off to sit

Stus-List considering C 25

thanks, Andy. My friend the internet tells me these are good boats. I looked at a Hunter last week and my friend tells me to watch out for those. :) Thanks, Fred - I think you'll be right, my long term fantasy is to buy a worthy cruiser but I need to learn to sail first. I'll be restricted to

Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C 25

Remember to get a survey. The money you spend will more than make up for any problems that a surveyor may find. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi, still figuring out how

Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C 25

Lisle — my first sailboat was a C the first time I stood at the helm, it felt like I was driving a battleship. But the 30mkI is one of the stiffest and most forgiving boats C ever built, and for me it made learning easy, fun, and most of all safe. So don’t worry about a somewhat larger boat;

Re: Stus-List considering 1981 C 25

I think you'll find the 25 is that perfect combination of responsive and forgiving that makes it an ideal boat to learn on. It's also (as I recall) a very stoutly-built boat so it will stand the abuse it will inevitably get. If you're looking at a 25, some friend must be giving you good advice.

Stus-List considering 1981 C 25

Hi, still figuring out how to use/reply on the list so please bear with me here is the add for the C 25 I'm considering: https://fingerlakes.craigslist.org/boa/d/cc-25/6239385891.html I went to take a quick look at it today and other than some slight star cracking on the deck around a few

Re: Stus-List considering purchasing a 1981 C 25

Do you have a link to an ad? We looked at 25s and 30s and settled on a 27. In retrospect, for us a 30 would probably have been the better choice. If the 25 has an inboard ... which is I believe with that age of boat a OMC saildrive, I'd look to the 27 instead. If it's an outboard then no issues

Re: Stus-List 37+ heat

Man up and drill! What is the worst that could happen? (hey...where did all that water come from) Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 1:37 PM To:

Stus-List 37+ heat

Alera came to us from Lake Ontario with no heat. We limit our cruising to the summer months, at least so far. A small electric ceramic heater when at the dock, works great. We also keep a lpropane Buddy on board, though we haven't used it yet. That said, I have wanted to do an hydronic

Re: Stus-List 37+ heat

We had a boat with a wood stove when I was a kid. It beat nothing, but didn’t really warm the boat that much if you were not near it. Espar type heaters blow heat all over the boat. Joe Della Barba Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kevin

Stus-List considering purchasing a 1981 C 25

Hi all, I'm considering purchasing a 1981 C 25, looking at it this Friday. Was curious if anyone has recommendations about particular things to watch out for on this year/make of C? Thank you! Lisle ___ This list is supported by the generous

Re: Stus-List 37+ heat

I don't see how you could go with anything but forced air or radiant with registers. A bulkhead mounted unit on a 30 or slightly bigger with open quarter berths is one thing, but it won't get heat in any kind of meaningful way to the aft cabin on the 37+, even with fans blowing the heat around.

Re: Stus-List 37+ heat

For dry heat, Calder talks about a charcoal fired unit that is wall hung.   Can't find the exact reference right now.RonWild CheriC 30-1STL From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List To: cnc-list Cc: Ken Heaton Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Stus-List Gas/Water key

Many thanks...just sad to lose it too! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > > While the one piece deck keys are OK and cheap, I like the (more expensive) > adjustable deck keys. > >

Re: Stus-List Gas/Water key

Many thanks! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 29, 2017, at 9:16 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List > wrote: > > Liz — try one of these: > >

Re: Stus-List Gas/Water key

While the one piece deck keys are OK and cheap, I like the (more expensive) adjustable deck keys. http://www.go2marine.com/product/387643F/sea-dog-adjustable-deck-plate-key-bronze.html Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Liz Mather via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List Gas/Water key

Google 'spanner wrench' On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Or (in the meantime) a pair of long-nose pliers > > Marek > > ___ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our

Re: Stus-List Recommended Upholsterer for C Mark1?

One of the first things we changed out on Peregrine (1976 33’) when we bought her in 2005 were the cushions. We bought her with the original olefin plaid still in place. We had Brian McMahon in ?Guelph 519-935-2406 make them. He used to be in the Niagara area as he outfitted all the Saga

Re: Stus-List 37+ heat

Hi Josh, A/C ducts would have to be significantly larger in dia than the heater ducts need to be due to the smaller temperature differential for A/C so I don't know if this will help you much. The output for my Espar is only about 3" in dia at the heater and quickly steps down in size as it

Re: Stus-List Exaust elbow replacement

I doubt it. I have had an exhaust elbow made of black pipe on my 2QM15 for over 20 years. When the first one rusted out, I had a new one made just like it. Engine runs great. Gary From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bruno Lachance via CnC-List Sent: Monday,

Re: Stus-List 1980 Water Systems Questions

By 1980, they went with separate tanks. Mine is just like Chad’s, complete with the leak. Gary 1980 30-1 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Brown via CnC-List Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 10:19 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Michael Brown

Re: Stus-List Gas/Water key

Or (in the meantime) a pair of long-nose pliers Marek ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are

Re: Stus-List Gas/Water key

A better (cheaper…) link: http://www.go2marine.com/product/27139F/sea-dog-universal-deck-fill-key-stainless.html — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > On Aug 29, 2017, at 8:16 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List > wrote: >

Re: Stus-List Gas/Water key

Liz — try one of these:

Stus-List Gas/Water key

Hello everyoneI have lost my original key for water and gas for my C 35-1ideas of where I might find a replacement. Many Thanks! Mistral V Sent from my iPhone ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you

Re: Stus-List 37+ heat

Ken, I'm looking to better distribute the A/C in my boat. I'd like to see how your heat is ducted. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Aug 29, 2017 8:38 AM, "Ken Heaton via CnC-List" wrote: > Our 37+ has an Espar Diesel fired forced air furnace, well

Re: Stus-List 37+ heat

Our 37+ has an Espar Diesel fired forced air furnace, well hidden in the lazarette, accessed through the large hatch at the head of the aft berth. This is a forced air unit with outlets in the aft stateroom, the head (in the shower stall), in the main cabin, and in the forward stateroom. We have

Re: Stus-List C 44 twin adjustable backstays

Thanks everyone, I certainly can't complian about having the option to make adjustments based on the conditions, I will just need to get used to it. - I checked my babystay this morning and it has very little tension on it. I think I'll run it up the track close to the mast to help clear it from

Re: Stus-List 37+ heat

It depends on what sort of heat you’re looking for; if you are constantly in cool, wet conditions and would like to have dry heat throughout the boat, I’d suggest a diesel forced-air system like the Espar or Webasto. But these can be expensive to install and maintain. If you would just like