As always, check with your local handicapping authority and carefully read
the sailing instructions for each race/regatta. I seem to recall specific
instructions on related issues in some event documents.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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all straightened out.
From: Michael Brown via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2018 12:00 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Michael Brown
Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement (now RRS 50.3)
Thanks for pointing out the case study, looks to be pretty clear on the topic.
I had
a
person leaning out holding a sheet is also not an outrigger.
From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 12:09 PM
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement (now RRS 50.3)
Michael:
I assume that you sent your note b
: there are two reported cases indicating that a
person leaning out holding a sheet is also not an outrigger. From: Matthew L.
Wolford via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 12:09 PMTo:
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching
Strut Pole replacement (now
Reaching Strut Pole replacement (now RRS 50.3)
Michael:
I assume that you sent your note below about there being no exception for
reaching struts before I sent my note about Case 97. I don’t know who decides
cases arising under the Rules these days (I used to follow Cases and US Sailing
” as not applying to jockey poles (i.e., reaching
struts). Am I missing something?
Matt Wolford
C 42 Custom
From: Michael Brown via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 5:55 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement
The topic
Forgot to mention that we still laugh about the second event as the
helmsman was on his knees behind the wheel, waist deep in water, with
the white of his eyes showing around his sunglasses. This after a Off
Soundings race, heading from Gardner's Bay to Block Island, some ten
years ago.
Don
Been there, done that!
In the two instances was after racing, running home (both times 5 hour
of sailing), crew relaxing with beers, helmsman being not that
experienced. Each time dug the pole into the ocean. First time bent the
pole's closing pin at the mast and bent the mast fitting, both
In addition to what Don said, using the lazy guy instead of the sheet,
pulls the clew down, and then you can even the clews by moving the pole
down at the mast, easing the topping lift and tightening the foreguy. All
of these adjustments move the center of effort down, further lessening the
Jockey poles and reaching struts are the same thing, and legal. I’ll take it.
From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 5:36 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Coleman
Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement
These are what I consider outriggers
The topic of outriggers came up a while back and I asked specifically about any
disclaimers
for a reaching strut. I agree that it is a safety and rigging saving
consideration as opposed to
something that improves performance. I have not found an exception so it looks
like it falls
under the
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Matthew L.
Wolford via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 5:19 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Matthew L. Wolford
Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement
FYI, from the RRS interpretative case law:
Case 97
Rule 50.3
hat exerts "outward pressure on a sheet or sail".
I believe what the case refers to as a “jockey pole” is the same thing as a
“reaching strut.”
From: Michael Brown via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 4:16 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Re: Stus-List
I was unaware of this Rule, which I just reviewed. It doesn’t make sense to me
to bar a reaching strut, but it sure looks like you are correct.
From: Michael Brown via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 4:16 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement - death roll
Our rule to minimize the possibility of a death roll is to NEVER, EVER let the
center seam of the chute be to windward of the forestay in heavy breeze.
That's on the guy trimmer. It's one of the few things one
I have a reaching strut out in the pole barn from my old Redwing 35 (C
35-1). It breaks down into three pieces. Anyone that is willing to pay
shipping cost, it's yours.
Neil Schiller
C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
On 12/7/2018 12:03 PM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List wrote:
Our rule to minimize the possibility of a death roll is to NEVER, EVER let
the center seam of the chute be to windward of the forestay in heavy
breeze. That's on the guy trimmer. It's one of the few things one can do
on Touche' where you get yelled at by me.
Ease the pole forward so the center
I had taken it from the RRS 50.3 that a reaching strut in not allowed in a race.
Michael Brown
Windburn
C 30-1
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2018 13:53:44 -0500
From: "Matthew L. Wolford"
Yes, the inboard end attaches to a fitting (usually a ring) on the mast. There
should be a fitting on
I race quite a bit (more than I cruise) and I have not used the reaching
strut in years, though it carried below on the shelf above the v-berth.
We use both a sheet and a guy attached to each clue. The sheet is lead
to a turning blocks at the aft most opening on the toe rail, the guy is
lead
locker.
From: dwight veinot via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 1:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dwight veinot
Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement
I got a reaching strut with Alianna. Never used it but i thought its inboard
end was supposed to attach to a ring
L. Wolford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> That’s awesome – thanks. Do you know if it’s similar grade (thickness)
>> and anodized?
>>
>> *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 07, 2018 12:27 PM
>> *To:* CnClist
nt:* Friday, December 07, 2018 12:27 PM
> *To:* CnClist
> *Cc:* Dennis C.
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement
>
> BTW, you can buy 7 feet of 3.5 aluminum tubing for $102 online at:
>
>
> https://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=4740=4=inch
December 07, 2018 12:23 PM
> *To:* CnClist
> *Cc:* Dennis C.
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement
>
> I sold Touche's reaching strut to a fellow lister. He never used it.
>
> We use tweakers (twings).
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
&g
That’s awesome – thanks. Do you know if it’s similar grade (thickness) and
anodized?
From: Dennis C. via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 12:27 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement
BTW, you can buy 7 feet of 3.5 aluminum tubing for $102
Lots of old spin poles at places like Bacon's. Cut one down, switch ends.
But a new tube might be cheaper.
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 12:28 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> BTW, you can buy 7 feet of 3.5 aluminum tubing for $102 online at:
>
>
>
, December 07, 2018 12:23 PM
To: CnClist
Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement
I sold Touche's reaching strut to a fellow lister. He never used it.
We use tweakers (twings).
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:04 AM Matthew L. Wolford
BTW, you can buy 7 feet of 3.5 aluminum tubing for $102 online at:
https://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=4740=4=inches=71_cat=0
Just make sure you are buying the correct ID and OD.
Dennis C.
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:04 AM Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I sold Touche's reaching strut to a fellow lister. He never used it.
We use tweakers (twings).
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:04 AM Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Listers:
>
> Different topic for the collective wisdom
Listers:
Different topic for the collective wisdom of the group. The reaching strut
that came with my boat did not match up with the deck mounts, both in terms of
the end fittings and pole length. I bought replacement deck mount fittings and
was going to mount them closer together, but
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