Rob,
I have wondered about "play" in the rudder myself and asked, "how much is
too much". I had the rudder out about 5 years ago for rebuild. There was
no scoring on the post and the only wear I could find in the bushings was a
bit of port/stbd ovaling. At the bottom tip of the rudder I get
Yeah, I looked at those needle bearings. To rich for my blood. Of course,
the Delrin bearings lasted for 28 years and are still functional. Just a
little worn longitudinally. When I felt the play in the rudder, I felt the
need to drop it and inspect for any other serious problems. In fact all
Presumably you only need to work on the bushings if the rudder post is flopping
around . . . .
If you have the ‘Velvet Touch’ on the helm, maybe your rudder post is a lot
happier . . . . . Ha . . . .
I’ve designed a couple of needle bearings in my time, so if I was rich, I’d be
trying to get
; Tom Buscaglia
Subject: Stus-List 37+ Rudder Bearing
Gary,
When you get the new bearings(bushings) made – there are better materials out
there for the job.
I have seen graphite lined and different mixtures of materials that are tougher
and more slippery . . .
Cheers,
Rob Ball – C 34
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Cc: Tom Buscaglia
Subject: Re: Stus-List 37+ Rudder Bearing
Gentlemen,
I must admit that I always intend to take lots of pictures to record my
progress, then fail to do it because I am so focused on the goal that I forget
the record keeping. I will try to do better. I have set
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> Well, the rudder
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> Well, the rudder is off. I wasn't easy, but not terrible either. 3 of the
> 4 3/8&q
Keep us posted Gary. I'm quite interested in how this project progresses
from here.
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Mon, Nov 5, 2018, 5:58 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote:
> Well, the rudder is off. I wasn't easy, but not terrible either. 3 of
Well, the rudder is off. I wasn't easy, but not terrible either. 3 of the
4 3/8" bolts that hold the radial wheel in place came out with a lot of
heat and patience. The fourth broke. Fortunately, it broke at the
interface between the two halves of the wheel, so I could easily get the
wheel
I agree with Gary, chances are the stainless bolts are welded to the
aluminum due to galvanic corrosion. This was the case for my quadrant, two
bolts came out with a lot of gentle persuasion, but the other two snapped
off and had to be carefully drilled out of the aluminum. Maybe Joshs
I significantly over-thought removing my rudder. Once I got all the stuff off
the shaft and it was ready to come out, it did not fall on its own. I had to
turn it back and forth and pull down and then it ended up being light enough to
just carry around. All the tackle and lines I rigged ended
y, September 24, 2018 1:44 PM
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> *Cc:* Gary Russell
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 37+ Rudder Bearing
>
> Joel,
> Good idea!
> Thanks,
> Gary
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> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 1:42 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-
: Re: Stus-List 37+ Rudder Bearing
Joel,
Good idea!
Thanks,
Gary
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On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 1:42 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Run a line under the rudder tied to the stern cleat on one side and a winch on
the other so you can
Joel,
Good idea!
Thanks,
Gary
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On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 1:42 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Run a line under the rudder tied to the stern cleat on one side and a
> winch on the other so you can lower it slowly.
>
> Joel
>
> On Mon, Sep 24,
Great! Thank you both.
Gary
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On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 1:39 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Mine was through bolted with SS bolts and nuts. Rudder is probably about
> 75lbs. Too heavy for 1 but not too much for 2.
>
> Josh
>
>
>
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> On Mon, Sep
Run a line under the rudder tied to the stern cleat on one side and a winch
on the other so you can lower it slowly.
Joel
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 1:39 PM bwhitmore via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Agreed. Ours on our 1994 C 37/40+ came off no problem. Be sure to
> check the
Agreed. Ours on our 1994 C 37/40+ came off no problem. Be sure to check the
idler pulley plate!
Bruce Whitmore
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Mine was through bolted with SS bolts and nuts. Rudder is probably about
75lbs. Too heavy for 1 but not too much for 2.
Josh
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 7:24 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Really? Usually when I have stainless steel bolts tapped into an
>
Really? Usually when I have stainless steel bolts tapped into an aluminum
housing, the galvanic corrosion makes them impossible to remove. I hope
you are right! Do you have any idea how much the rudder weighs? In other
words, do I need to put a jack under the rudder to lower it down, or can 1
Loosen the drive cables... Then loosen the quadrant boltsno problem.
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 2:56 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Hi Josh,
> How did you get the quadrant off? My SS bolts look pretty
> corroded. Were you able to save the quadrant?
> Gary
>
Hi Josh,
How did you get the quadrant off? My SS bolts look pretty corroded.
Were you able to save the quadrant?
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA
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On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 2:25 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I removed my
I removed my quadrant to rebuild the rudder. There was nothing
particularly difficult about it. The steering cables will inevitably slip
off the sheaves at the base of the steering pedestal. They can be worked
back on with a helper. If you haven't replaced/inspected the sheave plate
this is
Thank you Mike. There is plenty of room to get at my quadrant, but I'm
sure that getting the quadrant off will be miserable. Thanks for your
input.
Gary
A/V Kaylarah
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On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:53 AM mike amirault via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I replaced the
I'll second that. I have had the rudder out a couple times over the years,
that parts is easy (when the boat is out of the water on its cradle).
Never tried to replace the bearings though.
I don't know if this will help, scroll down to the fourth drawing:
When you figure it out Let me know
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 8:33 PM Gary Russell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Has anyone ever replaced the rudder bearings on a C 37+? How do
> you do it?
>
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
> '90 C
Has anyone ever replaced the rudder bearings on a C 37+? How do you
do it?
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA
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