Stus-List Re: Kite jibing--end for end or dip pole?

2023-11-13 Thread Rod via CnC-List
To: Stus-List Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Stus-List Re: Kite jibing--end for end or dip pole? I favor end for end, too. As the boat gets bigger and wind pipes up perhaps sheets and guys on each clew will help. But the main point (and I’m coming into this chat late so I may have missed

Stus-List Re: Kite jibing--end for end or dip pole?

2023-11-13 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
I favor end for end, too. As the boat gets bigger and wind pipes up perhaps sheets and guys on each clew will help. But the main point (and I’m coming into this chat late so I may have missed it), is it’s all on the helmsman. Just hold the boat downwind until the gybe is complete. Unless you have

Stus-List Re: Kite jibing--end for end or dip pole?

2023-11-12 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
It's a UK sock. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 6:36 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Is it a VF Shaw Chutescoop? > > Bill Coleman > > On Sun, Nov 12, 2023, 18:51 Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > >> Always an interesting

Stus-List Re: Kite jibing--end for end or dip pole?

2023-11-12 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Charlie: As a former fore deck racer familiar with both end for end and dip pole jibbing, my preference for a 35'er would be to dip pole jib. It requires a little more choreography of the crew to lower and raise the pole but if the crew and the helmsman do it properly, for me, it is easier

Stus-List Re: Kite jibing--end for end or dip pole?

2023-11-12 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Is it a VF Shaw Chutescoop? Bill Coleman On Sun, Nov 12, 2023, 18:51 Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > Always an interesting topic. True, conventional wisdom says end for end > (EFE) up to 35 feet. Also agree EFE is faster. Don't disagree that dip > pole (DP) gybing is safer. We do end for

Stus-List Re: Kite jibing--end for end or dip pole?

2023-11-12 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Always an interesting topic. True, conventional wisdom says end for end (EFE) up to 35 feet. Also agree EFE is faster. Don't disagree that dip pole (DP) gybing is safer. We do end for end gybes on Touche'. Our pole is 3.5 inch aluminum. Regardless of EFE or DP gybing, I think the most

Stus-List Re: Kite jibing--end for end or dip pole?

2023-11-12 Thread cenelson--- via CnC-List
Thanks Alan.  I presume you used lazy sheets and guys on the kite as well. Certainly a strong case for doing it one way! Charlie Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Sunday, November 12, 2023, 5:30 PM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List wrote: Dip pole is easier and safer. I started using dip

Stus-List Re: Kite jibing--end for end or dip pole?

2023-11-12 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
Dip pole is easier and safer. I started using dip pole on my previous boat, an Ericson 2-30, and until I stopped racing a year ago, I continued using dip pole gybes (mor than forty years of racing that way. Alan Bergen 35 Mk III Thirsty Rose City YC Portland, OR On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 2:03