Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-21 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
list" To: "a burton sailor" , "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 9:30:13 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats Okay so, I'm concentrating on the 34plus and the 37plus. I think either of these boats could fit the bill. I just need to

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-20 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:42 AM To: Paul Baker; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats I'm not sure how many of our "classic" C&C hulls did not have cored hull

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-20 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
On Behalf Of Rick > Brass via CnC-List > Sent: August 20, 2014 11:42 AM > To: Paul Baker; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats > > I'm not sure how many of our "classic" C&C hulls did not have cored hulls. > > Someone on the list

Re: Stus-List Upsizing Boats - now cored hulls

2014-08-20 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
A gentleman I work with has a C&C 43 custom (early 80s design) with a cored hull. He paid over 10k to have delimitation fixed. Not sure how the water got in, but it did. Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > An

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-20 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
gust 20, 2014 10:42 AM > To: Paul Baker; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats > > I'm not sure how many of our "classic" C&C hulls did not have cored hulls. > > Someone on the list can probably determine the date when C&C started using >

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-20 Thread dwight via CnC-List
:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: August 20, 2014 11:42 AM To: Paul Baker; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats I'm not sure how many of our "classic" C&C hulls did not have cored hulls. Someone on the list can probab

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-20 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
MK I -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Brass via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:42 AM To: Paul Baker; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats I'm not sure how many of our "classic" C&a

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-20 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
I'm not sure how many of our "classic" C&C hulls did not have cored hulls. Someone on the list can probably determine the date when C&C started using balsa core, but I'd guess it was on new designs that went into production around 74 or 75. My 38 is balsa core. The 33 is cored. The 37 if I'm n

Re: Stus-List Upsizing Boats - now cored hulls

2014-08-20 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
I have a cored hull under the waterline. No problems. The bow, stern, keel area, and every place that could get damaged in a collision are solid glass. The comment about C&C knowing how to build cored hulls is true. IMHO, most of the horror stories are really about power boats with cored h

Re: Stus-List Upsizing Boats - now cored hulls

2014-08-20 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
And just to add some contrarian experience on C&C build quality; I have had repaired (at considerable expense) both wet core in the deck (which I knew about from the purchase survey) and wet / rotten core in the hull (which was not highlighted in the survey). I would estimate the hull core replace

Re: Stus-List Upsizing Boats

2014-08-20 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
7;m lining up a couple to look at. > > Danny > Lolita > 1973 Viking 33 > Westport Point, MA > > > -- Original Message -- > From: Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Upsizing Boats > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 20

Re: Stus-List Upsizing Boats

2014-08-20 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
So, what would be a fair price for a, hasn't been upgraded in over 10 years, 37plus? I'm lining up a couple to look at. DannyLolita1973 Viking 33Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject:

Stus-List Upsizing Boats - now cored hulls

2014-08-20 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
I am now on my second boat with a cored hull. In both boats the hull was dry. When purchasing a boat with a cored hull it is extremely important to have a good out of water survey done prior to purchase. The hull is likely dry but if it had been involved in an incident of some sort it could be

Stus-List Upsizing Boats

2014-08-20 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
I was worried about the Internet horror stories on cored hulls too before I bought my boat. Then I talked to experts who work on boats for a living.. Here's what they said: 1st the likelihood that you get severe delamination is pretty slim. This spring I had my bottom stripped to the bare gel

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread Paul Baker via CnC-List
So which one do all the "classic" C&Cs fall into with their solid hulls? ;-) Paul. Orange Crush 27MkII, Sidney, BC On 14-08-19 07:38 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List wrote: Not really, IMHO. Just about any modern sailboat (or performance oriented power boat of any size) is going to have a cored hu

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Nothing wrong with a cored hull - significantly lighter and stronger than a solid hull. Each core material has advantages & disadvantages. The common theme to all is the potential for de-lamination. Balsa is probably still the best in terms of strength but it has a nasty habit of rotting sho

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Not really, IMHO. Just about any modern sailboat (or performance oriented power boat of any size) is going to have a cored hull. And any sailboat without a cored hull is likely to fall into one of two categories: heavy as crap and slow, or light and really bendy. I hear a lot today about cored

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
urton via CnC-List To: Marek Dziedzic , "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:28:28 -0400 too much fun doing it on its own bottom to send the boat overland. AndyC&C 40Peregrine On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Marek Dziedzic v

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
anny Haughey via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:02 PM > *To:* jfriv...@us.ibm.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats > > Okay, that is Beautiful!! > > I wonder what it would take to get a boat from there to here? > > &

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Fred, I thought the cushions looked fairly new, but you are right about updating the electronics. The boat looked like the owners had spent money on her before they brought her down from DC area about three years ago. Seemed like nice folks when they joined the country club about three years ag

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
ehalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 2:25 PM To: j...@svpaws.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats I saw this boat on line and I love it...I would even keep the name! I saw that it was in Ohio and stopped looking but, I may be cha

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
-- Original Message -- From: John Pennie via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:10:20 -0400 Or - For just a little more you can go with the next generation� http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1999/C%26C-110-2733617

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List
-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Upsizing boats > Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 11:38:02 -0500 > > I second Pierre's suggestion > > That C&C 36XL in Toronto looks really good. > > http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1996/C%26C-36X

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
ke to get a boat from there to here? > > > -- Original Message -- > From: Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Upsizing boats > Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 11:38:02 -0500 > > > I second Pierre's sugg

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Danny — +1 on Rick Brass’ suggestion of the Landfall 38. But I’m kinda biased… :^) And I can speak from experience that they’ll sail nearly as well as a straight 38. The one Rick gave the link to would need new cushions, and definitely new electronics (I know where you can get those…), but

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
overland? some $5-$6k. Unless you find some special deals. Marek From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:02 PM To: jfriv...@us.ibm.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats Okay, that is Beautiful!! I wonder what it would take to get a boat

Re: Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Okay, that is Beautiful!! I wonder what it would take to get a boat from there to here? -- Original Message -- From: Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Upsizing boats Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 11:38:02 -0500 I second Pierre&#

Stus-List Upsizing boats

2014-08-19 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
I second Pierre's suggestion That C&C 36XL in Toronto looks really good. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1996/C%26C-36XL-2527557/toronto/Canada#.U_NvE010zmE As a current owner of a 34+ (Same boat, might have a slightly different rig)It seems it would fit the bill. Points like nobody's business,