Just noticed this. No thanks, Chuck! Done that 3 times.
Rich
On Jul 7, 2014, at 23:22, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote:
Hi Ryan,
Keep the 30 to learn and daysail and race. Buy the 42 to cruise with a gang or
live aboard. You're young. You can handle both. "Easy payments."
2nd tip: Marry ri
Paul -
I have a 1.5 inch long metal stud sticking out of the bottom of my hull
about six inches in front of the rudder. Somewhere I have a picture,
but never put it on a web page. Every time I haul I wonder if I
shouldn't just cut it off, but figure what the heck it's not causing a
problem
Bob Perry impression:
I am a big fan of Bob Perry usually while dreaming of boats I can't afford.
He admitted several times that his written reviews were based on looking at
drawings, not sailing the boats. His reviews in the magazines and the many
publications or 20 best boats, etc, were all b
Consider your slip fees. They go up as the size increases.
Every time I prep the bottom of my boat I'm thankful it's only 27 feet.
Anti-fouling paint is pricy and you'll more than double the amount needed and
4x the time involved. Substantial upgrades on a 30 vs a 42 are easier. Consider
replac
That was also my solution. I now have the two original batteries as a bank
of house batteries and a third battery that is isolated as a starting
battery. The system works very well and has also made managing the
batteries much easier.
Steve Sharkey
Impromptu
-Original Message-
From
High Skip,
I use a rig to run my engine on the hard. It greatly improves confidence
(reduces embarrassing moments) when they lift the boat into the water.
It is a simple 3' length of hose with a female connection on one end, a ball
valve, and a short length of hose that adapts to my raw water
Hi Ryan,
Keep the 30 to learn and daysail and race. Buy the 42 to cruise with a gang or
live aboard. You're young. You can handle both. "Easy payments."
2nd tip: Marry rich.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
- Original Message -
From: "CNC boat owners, c
I own my first diesel-powered sailboat after many years of dealing with the
headaches and expenses of outboards on smaller sailboats.
Safety issues aside, I do have to say I am in awe of diesels. My Yanmar 2GM20F
is, hands down, the most reliable and easy-to-maintain engine I have ever
encounte
I'm with you, I once saw a car crash and kill all four passengers- I sold my
car and walk everywhere I go now.
James
S/V Delaney
1976 C&C 38
Oriental, NC
Sorry for the smart ass reply, but this thread has put me in the mood
- Original Message -
From: Jimmy Kelly via CnC-List
I'm with Joe here and have been on the receiving end of that lecture many
times. If you really want to shut them up quick, ask them how long it has been
since they actually check the proper operation of the propane solenoid valve! I
don't go on forums and lecture people that they shouldn't have
Same here. Extends below the top of the rudder
Joel
On Monday, July 7, 2014, Edd Schillay via CnC-List
wrote:
> Paul,
>
> The one on the Enterprise is about 3-4 inches, sticking straight down.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Edd
>
>
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-
Only problem, you usually dont know it is leaking into the bilge, , (My
case) and then float kicks the pump on. I have one of those See Witch
electronic switches, and it WONT pump oil. I dont know about gas. But it
didnt pump a drop of my diesel overboard.
Never mind, it is a Water Witch,
I am going to suggest that getting rid of gasoline in the boat with electric
bilge pumps is not the best way to go.
I did all my cleanup with the batteries off and nothing was turned on until
the boat was spotless clean and smelling of nothing but Joy dish soap.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: C
one nearby boat gas fuel explosionyou realize the real dangerearly
in my sailing ownerships...had experience leaking gas fuel dripping on
water jacked muffler ..noticed when engine shutdown to begin distance
race,,fuel smell,,it didnt take long for a crew of 11 to get pails..riggers
bucket
I do NOT rely on the float valve to keep the gas in the tank. I shut my fuel
pump off and let the engine run until it quits. The fact that it does quit
means there is no active siphon too. A habit I got into with airplanes long ago
– we usually shut them off by cutting the fuel, not the ignition
I need a stick-out-tongue emoticon in here someplace…pffftt
I don’t want to count on luck – not that I would turn it down, but having had
many gasoline powered boats and only one diesel, the safe operating habits are
very well ingrained at this point.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: CnC-List
Were there any diesel powered British sports cars? :-)
Bill Bina
On 7/7/2014 3:23 PM, Peter Fell via CnC-List wrote:
I think this discussion has been exhausted numerous times before on
numerous forums.
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I think this discussion has been exhausted numerous times before on numerous
forums.
However, diesel or gas ... if the tanks higher than the engine, how many of you
have an anti-siphon valve at the tank? And how old is your fuel tank?
From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014
That is no fun! I know of homes who transitioned off oil heat, had the inside
tank removed BUT did not remove the outside fill pipe.
A basement flooded with heating oil is a slippery slope of darkness
"I might just remove the diesel filler plate"
Don
> On Jul 7, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Burt
Respectfully, I have heard that argument and it has merit. My opinion is that
it only takes a little vapor in the wrong place at the wrong time to cause an
explosive issue. I am used to having (3) gasoline fired engines below my decks
and (3) tanks that can carry almost 300 gallons of fuel. It i
If I'm buying a new boat, yeah diesel all the way. If I'm buying a 30 year
old boat assuming the same boat, one with a 30 year old diesel and one with
a 30 year old atomic 4 .. the diesel will likely be asking about 5k more on
the resale, if not more. That was my experience when shopping around and
Paul,
The one on the Enterprise is about 3-4 inches, sticking straight down.
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
On Jul 7, 201
Nate,
This weekend I used a rag soaked with Naphtha to clean the old grease from the
rudder tube. During the process I also noticed that Naphtha cleans up butyl
quite easily.
-
Paul Eugenio
1981 C&C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL
On Jul 2, 2014, at 12:00 PM, cnc-list-requ.
Ouch, C’mon Joe, I said with all due respect, that is supposed to isolate me
from retribution!
I realize these occurrences are very rare, but they do happen.
And I am so forgetful, I spend half my day chasing around looking for stuff or
what I was doing, I wouldn’t trust myself with such a resp
Even scarier are people who store those one-pound camping propane bottles below
on their boat.
These are $4 bottles with no safety gear on them. I’ve seen old ones empty
themselves of propane after a bad fit on a stove. (Luckily, outdoors.)
I keep one canister on deck in a capped propane pipe w
Thanks Edd.
Do you know if the rod should have a bend to it or should it be a straight
piece just a few inches in length?
Paul
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Paul Eugenio
1981 C&C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL
On Jul 7, 2014, at 2:11 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 1
Have you checked how low the battery voltage is dropping when you crank the
engine?
Marek (in Ottawa)
-Original Message-
From: Colomba via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:40 PM
To: Della Barba, Joe ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List E7 chartplotter reboots when I st
With all due respect, having watched a power boat blow up, that is and was the
primary reason I always wanted diesel.
Followed by better mileage, and longer life. And probably more dependable.
Unless you have a newer fuel injected gas engine.
On the down side, noisier, heavier, and more expe
We can assume you have no propane stove then?
I once got a lecture from a Cabo Rico 38 owner about the dangers of gasoline
engines. I noticed he had a propane stove and Clorox bottle full of gasoline
for the dinghy stuffed in the engine room!
YIKES!!!
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: CnC-List [mai
A friend of mine had that problem, and he bought a little widget to isolate
the chartplotter and maintain voltage, kind of like a little voltage
conditioner.
Search on defender or West.
Bill Coleman
C&C 39
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf
According to Raymarine documentation, the E7 operating voltage range is
10.2 - 15.6 volts.
Bill Bina
On 7/7/2014 12:18 PM, Eric Frank via CnC-List wrote:
My new E7 Raymarine chartplotter reboots when I start the engine (a Perkins
diesel). Cat's Paw's batteries are quite new, fully char
Along with all the advice already given to avoid voltage drop, check for any
chart plotter wiring run close to high current wiring.
On Calypso, some sensitive electronics have had issues if I ran any of their
power or sensor cables/wires very close to the engine starting or charging
circuits.
would say, your battery is low (more or less damaged). In this case
voltage will decrease during starting the engine and computer will shut
down. I had same last year, new battery, everything fine again.
best regards
Peter
Am 07.07.2014 19:31, schrieb Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List:
Yes! I ca
Yes! I can start my engine all day and none of the boat equipment knows the
difference.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 12:23 PM
To: Eric Frank; cnc-list@c
Better to check the wiring to the engine and reduce the voltage drop.
Joel
On Monday, July 7, 2014, Eric Frank via CnC-List
wrote:
>My new E7 Raymarine chartplotter reboots when I start the engine (a
> Perkins diesel). Cat's Paw's batteries are quite new, fully charged, and
> hold their cha
Time to re wire your boat to have an isolated starting battery and a house
battery. That will eliminate most of your charging/starting/low voltage
problems.
Here's my take on it:
http://www.sailpower.ca/pleasure-boat-primary-wiring/
Rich
> On Jul 7, 2014, at 13:18, Eric Frank via CnC-List
>
Sounds like your motor is good and healthy. 85 across all four cold is a
good number. I love my atomic four. I don't understand why a 30 year old
diesel powered boat warrants a higher resale than a 30 year old A4 powered
boat. The A4 is a whole lot smoother and quieter than it's 30 year old
diesel
My new E7 Raymarine chartplotter reboots when I start the engine (a Perkins
diesel). Cat's Paw's batteries are quite new, fully charged, and hold their
charge well. But obviously the voltage drops when cranking the engine. None
of my other electronics is affected this way, including an old
Paul,
Yes, there should be a rod coming out of that hull, and you should
replace it.
It’s purpose is to deflect seaweed and other items from getting caught
in your rudder post as you move through the water.
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
S
Hi,
I have come across a small pencil-sized hole in my LF38 hull located a few
inches forward of the rudder tube. I am not certain of the intent of this
hole, but I do recall that on my old 29-1 that it had a short stainless rod
coming out of the hull from about the same location(a line divert
You should have an oil pressure safety switch installed into the block (or is
it oil pan can’t recall) just behind the fuel pump (assuming yours is not
bulkhead mounted). Wired between the coil and the fuel pump (with an inline
fuse – 5 amp I believe). The safety switch won’t send power to
Hi, I have a Viking 33 with an Atomic 4. I can only comment from my
experience with this one boat and Atomic 4 (well 2 as I replaced the original)
Comments below in bold type 1. Is there
generally an “off” or kill switch other than the ignition key? I
have read in other posts about an
You all drifted off a couple pieces to this puzzle:
1. The OP is new to sailing and boat ownership
2. The bigger boat in question is a *$16,000* 42 foot boat.
The C&C 30 is a GREAT boat to learn to sail AND to learn to be a boat owner.
The scale of the repairs, if needed, both in cost and physica
For two days difference, I would get one of those water bags. Or they may be
lift bags that they put water in
to Lay it over a little like the popular video of the ketch going under the ICW
Bridges.
Bill Coleman
C&C 39
-Original Message-
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list
Hi All,
This may seem to be a very dumb question but the knowledge on this site is
just too tempting to resist.
I am going through my new-to me 1974 33 3/4tonner with the hope of launching
her next weekend. I have the hull in reasonably good condition below the
waterline (through hull fitti
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