Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table and C 30-2 vs Tartan 31

We’ll need to discuss over a beer the finer points of what “comes with” a 35-year old custom boat. And I didn’t just remove water ballast, I replaced a lot of it with West System (more than a teak table’s worth, I might add), followed by 8-10 coats of Interprotect. But I digress. From:

Re: Stus-List 1983 c 40 std rig spreaders

If there is enough meat left on them, you might be able to just build up what's missing with filler aluminum weld. Otherwise, just cut them off and weld some more aluminum on, either 5000 series marine-grade, or 6061. You should be able to whittle it back into shape, aluminum isn't that

Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table and C 30-2 vs Tartan 31

Haha, nice try counselor. I think the rule  reads, whatever came with a boat,   stock. You did, however, remove a lot of water ballast that came with the boat... okay, that didn't come with the  boat.  Regards, Bill Coleman  C 39 Original message From: "Matthew L.

Re: Stus-List C 37 Centerboard

I propose we all bring our boats to Rick's place. We can have biweekly C rendezvous all winter! I'm seriously tempted. Let's discuss bringing Peregrine down for next year, Rick...if you can accommodate 7 1/2'. Andy C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840

Re: Stus-List 1983 c 40 std rig spreaders

I had the same problem on my 1980 C 40. Zern Rigging in Pensacola, FL has a machine shop, and they retipped the spreader ends. They are beefier now than stock, and will probably outlive the boat. He went through all the possible speaker tip vendors looking for something that could be readily

Re: Stus-List C 37 Centerboard

Trekkie, Trekker, it’s just another example of the Vulcan principal of infinite diversity in infinite combinations. And you can avoid the winter depression by bringing Enterprise down to Washington. I’ll find you a slip close to Imzadi, you can come down and sail Enterprise on weekends

Re: Stus-List Cetol Natural Teak vs Cetol Marine

And for comparison, Jerrod Milton on my crew made an awesome set of custom teak drink holders for Grenadine’s cockpit and cabintop (inboard of her dorade boxes). These he insisted on treating only with teak oil. And they have weathered some in the course of just one season. Cheers, Randy >

Re: Stus-List Cetol Natural Teak vs Cetol Marine

I used natural teak on The Office. It looked ok and held up well but I’m now a fan of Epiphanes fast drying varnish. Comes in clear and tinted. Joel On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 8:47 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Cetol come in 4 formulations; Marine, Gloss, Light and

Re: Stus-List Cetol Natural Teak vs Cetol Marine

Yes. This past spring for Grenadine’s new cabintop handrails, and for refinishing her traveler bar and taffrails, I used 3-5 coats Cetol Marine Natural Teak followed by 2-3 coats of Cetol Marine Gloss. I liked the color and finish of the result - it looks pretty natural. I’m only six months

Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table and C 30-2 vs Tartan 31

My table hasn’t been on board since I bought the boat. I guess I’m grandfathered. You, on the other hand... From: coltrek via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:24 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: coltrek Subject: Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table and C 30-2 vs Tartan 31

Stus-List Cetol Natural Teak vs Cetol Marine

Cetol come in 4 formulations; Marine, Gloss, Light and now Natural Teak. Touche's teak has 5 coats of Cetol Marine followed by an indeterminate number of coats of Cetol Gloss, applied twice a year. It still looks good after many years but, at some point, it will need to be redone. Maybe another

Re: Stus-List 1983 c 40 std rig spreaders

Thanks for info Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 11, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Mike Brannon via CnC-List > wrote: > > I had my spreaders re-tipped at one time. A local guy did it.I now do > rigging work and have a local machinist who is able to fabricate spreaders. >

Re: Stus-List Chart Light...

Probably a BA9S mini bayonet base. http://store.marinebeam.com/ba9s-miniature-bayonet/ Dennis C. On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 4:32 PM, David via CnC-List wrote: > So I have the old school wand chart light with a little light bulb (3/4" > long single bayonet) giving very

Re: Stus-List Chart Light...

Having replaced most of the bulbs in our 37/40+ with Less, the steps are as follows: 1.  Identify the bulb by number of possible and look up an equivalent LED. 2.  If there is no number stamped in the bulb base, identify the base and number by pixtures/drawings.  For those bulbs with 2 contacts

Re: Stus-List Chart Light...

I did. Works substantially better (and uses much less current). A small picture included, but I am not sure if it would go through). [cid:image001.jpg@01D342CF.080316C0] I bought it from this guy: http://www.marineledscanada.ca/ I am not sure though, if you have the same reading (charts) light

Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table and C 30-2 vs Tartan 31

Mine too -I guess we can't protest each other over removing weight for our boats, can we!. Bill ColemanC 39 Original message From: "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" Date: 10/11/17 14:02 (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Matthew L.

Re: Stus-List 1983 c 40 std rig spreaders

I had my spreaders re-tipped at one time. A local guy did it.I now do rigging work and have a local machinist who is able to fabricate spreaders. Your rigger should know someone who does that sort of work. Sail Safe, Mike. Virginia Lee, 1978 C 31-1 CB Virginia Beach, VA Sent from

Stus-List Chart Light...

So I have the old school wand chart light with a little light bulb (3/4" long single bayonet) giving very little light. In fact I never use it. But it is there and working and I was wondering instead of the BS of replacing and moving the wiring to accommodate the fixture (which I already

Re: Stus-List 1983 c 40 std rig spreaders

Thanks will check it out Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 11, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > > Might be a Klacko. See if it matches one of these: > > http://www.klackospars.com/services/mast-extrusions.html > > Dennis C. > >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017

Re: Stus-List 1983 c 40 std rig spreaders

Might be a Klacko. See if it matches one of these: http://www.klackospars.com/services/mast-extrusions.html Dennis C. On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:36 PM, PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > It just says C spars on the side of the mast saw no other names > > Hopefully

Re: Stus-List LED Interior Flourescent replacements

If you're a little more DIY, you can buy 3x of these: https://www.ledsupply.com/leds/cree-xlamp-xm-l2-leds and one of these at 1000ma https://www.ledsupply.com/led-drivers/buckblock-dc-led-driver Hook them up, the result is a nice warm light, with ample brightness, and 1 amp power draw. They are

Re: Stus-List 1983 c 40 std rig spreaders

It just says C spars on the side of the mast saw no other names Hopefully rigger might know Thanks Peter Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 11, 2017, at 2:36 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > > Depending on the shape, rigrite or Dwyer Mast may have them. If they

Re: Stus-List 1983 c 40 std rig spreaders

Depending on the shape, rigrite or Dwyer Mast may have them. If they were made by a rigging vendor still in business, they might have them. The key will be identifying the original manufacturer. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:51 AM, PETE via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table and C 30-2 vs Tartan 31

One other item no one has mentioned. The aft head. Priceless. Good use of space and perfect for hanging wet clothes shed at the bottom of the companionway. The toilet faces fore and aft so is good on either tack. Additionally, having the head forward (as is shown in the Tartan), essentially in the

Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table and C 30-2 vs Tartan 31

A couple of comments here. First, I can confirm that the chainplates on the 30-2 are mounted to the bulkhead behind the settee cushion rather than to the hull itself. However, the load is transferred by a beefy aluminum casting, the bulkhead is quite thick and the casting is secured by 5

Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table and C 30-2 vs Tartan 31

I’ll add one more perspective. I have a beautiful teak table sitting in my basement. The cabin is much roomier without it, and no one seems to miss it. Again, it’s all about how you use the boat. From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:52 PM To:

Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table and C 30-2 vs Tartan 31

Hi Lisle and also others I think fixed table or fold up table has a lot to do with how you intend to use the boat. We have raced on a C 115 which had the fixed table. Very nice layout when spending time below but when racing the fixed table makes packing a spinnaker more arduous. Our current

Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table

We happen to have owned a C 1980 30-1 dinette for the last dozen years and still own and love her, and also now own a 1994 Tartan 31. The older 30-1 isn't the same as the 30-2, but the dinette vs foldup, etc., and some other issues seem the same. The Tartan does have bulkhead mounted chainplates,

Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table

Lisle, For what it’s worth... My kids are the same age as yours (girl, boy), and we got our boat this summer, so they are completely new to sailing. I can tell you from heavy parent observation this summer, they don’t run around under sail. If they are hanging out below they’re stationary

Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table

FYI – if you turn the 35 MK I table 90 degrees you can have people eating on both sides of the boat. Joe Coquina C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 12:38 PM To: CnClist

Stus-List 1983 c 40 std rig spreaders

Hello all Just had rig pulled and lower spreader tips are severely corroded upon removal by yard there are chunks missing my rigger has not looked at them yet My questions are: 1. can they be re-tipped 2. does anyone know where they can purchased if replacement needed thanks PETER

Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table

Lisle, One other thing you might ask yourself is why is the C's table a fold down vs the Tartan's fold up bulkhead mount. The answer lies in the location of the forward bulkhead and mast. Where does that 2-3 feet go? In the C, it's part of the dinette. The bulkhead is more forward opening up

Re: Stus-List Flourescent LED Lights

Thanks to all for your feedback. Great group! Fair Winds, Pete W. Siren Song '91 C Deltaville, VA. ___ The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider

Re: Stus-List opinion on cabin table

Check the chain plates and bulkhead carefully. They are a concern. Joel On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:25 AM Randy Stafford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Whoops here’s the picture of my starboard settee: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTU3ZycUs0YzQwSHM > > On Oct 11,

Re: Stus-List opinion on cabin table

Whoops here’s the picture of my starboard settee: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTU3ZycUs0YzQwSHM > On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Randy Stafford via CnC-List > wrote: > > Regarding the chainplates on the 30 MK II, from the pictures at >

Re: Stus-List opinion on cabin table

Regarding the chainplates on the 30 MK II, from the pictures at http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1987/C%26C-30-3079275/Rochester/NY/United-States#.Wd40ia2ZO8V I’d guess they attach to a fiberglass “knee” behind the settees - not to the hull directly - but to be sure you’d have to pull off the

Re: Stus-List opinion on cabin table

Lisle- buy the C! :) > On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Lisle Kingery, PhD via CnC-List > wrote: > > > Thanks, Dennis, I hadn't thought about the issue of sail load support. > > From what I can tell, it appears the Tartan 31 chainplates are attached to > the bulkhead vs.

Stus-List opinion on cabin table

> > > Thanks, Dennis, I hadn't thought about the issue of sail load support. > > From what I can tell, it appears the Tartan 31 chainplates are attached to > the bulkhead vs. the C 30mkii are attached to the hull. I have the Tartan > 31 manual but I don't see that specified anywhere, but looking

Re: Stus-List boat show thoughts

There is an auction of remaining assets scheduled. Joel On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:56 AM Neil Gallagher via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2017/07/24/u-s-watercraft-receivership/ > > Appears it has gone into receivership. > > Neil Gallagher >

Re: Stus-List boat show thoughts

http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2017/07/24/u-s-watercraft-receivership/ Appears it has gone into receivership. Neil Gallagher Weatherly, 35-1 Glen Cove, NY On 10/11/2017 10:18 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: Is C bankrupt again? I kind of lost track and they definitely were not

Stus-List boat show thoughts

Is C bankrupt again? I kind of lost track and they definitely were not at the show. Speaking of which, the show was kind of depressing. Monday was very lightly attended and one could think from the show that sailing is 99% catamaran charters and some French cruising boats. The Catalina lineup

Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table

Everyone's criteria is different. How folks use their boats is also a consideration. Both boats look nice. Both are quality built. I guess I'm strange but my starting point is always the rig and how the sailing load is supported. Are the chain plates attached to a bulkhead or are the shroud

Re: Stus-List opinions about cabin table

Lisle, Here are a couple of considerations both ways (and both boat interiors look great)… We recently switched from a C 34 (table similar to C 30), to a Sabre 38 (table similar to Tartan 31). I much prefer that I can swing the table up on the bulkhead. That is now our standard configuration

Re: Stus-List LED Interior Flourescent replacements

I replaced each fixture with a pair of these: https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/swivel-led/135-swivel-utility-led-light-bar-with-rocker-switch/1434/4518/#/attributes/10854 They were not available in the warm color so I got the "natural" color which was fairly harsh. On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at

Stus-List opinions about cabin table

Thanks for all the helpful replies on cabin table options. I've pretty much narrowed my boat choices down to either a C 30MKii or a Tartan 31 at this point. The Tartan's interior appears more open with the folding table mounted on the bulkhead vs. the fixed table on the C I will mainly be