Re: Stus-List getting seasick
Personally, I have always been convinced that the statement in the ads is a really smart and subtle promotional message and not a serious health warning. Put there to impress us with the results we might get. But I vote that we don't add comments on the effectiveness of ED meds to foredeck cows and British sports cars as topics for the list. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad On Jun 24, 2014, at 21:16, Sam Salter via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: If I had an erection lasting more than 4 hours I'd call the Guinness Book of Records first! sam :-) Original Message From: Jake Brodersen via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:47 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: Jake Brodersen Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Wal, Some side effects can be severe. For erections lasting more than four hours, you should see a doctor. I carried some Stugeron to Bermuda, but thankfully didn't need it. Jake Jake Brodersen Midnight Mistress CC 35 Mk-III Hampton Va -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:24 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Stugeron (cinnarizine) gets my vote. No more than 15mg, and no side effects. I don't use it much, and the stuff I have on board is six years old. You can't get it in the US, but I ordered it mail order through Canada. In Mexico they only have 75mg tablets, so one has to cut them into quarters, because too strong a dose will have side effects. Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick (and yes more of my drivel)
Jake wrote: Some side effects can be severe. snip Okay, here's a Stugeron side effect story. July of 2010 I was up at Bahia de Los Angeles (28.954N 113.548W) and I don't want to say it was rustic but the village was proud of having had electricity for four years, and getting diesel meant a two mile hike carrying jerry cans in 105F sunshine. I had invited a friend I'd known for 25 years to drive down (with a pickup load of spare parts) and go cruising the nearby islands for a week, doing some diving and snorkeling and fishing. He wasn't a sailor, but I don't need crew. He did send an email asking if he could bring a friend, and I said 'sure, but three is about all that can fit on the boat right now.' Apparently he didn't get the memo. Imagine my surprise when four guys showed up, three of which were primed for a party weekend in Cabo San Lucas. I was thinking 'this is going to be very interesting.' One guy asked 'where's the nearest t_t_y bar' and I said 'Ensenada, you drove through it about 400 miles back.' Eventually I got them on the boat (it was like herding drunken cats) and got under way. Fast forward 36 hours, after two guys decided to have a food fight in the cockpit (which I stopped by explaining that we were 100 miles from the nearest place where I could wash the boat down) and we'd swamped the dinghy (which actually *can* carry five grown men but only if you don't make any sudden moves) and two of my shot glasses were overboard. One guy admitted that he couldn't swim, which is a drag because the only way to get comfortable there in July is to jump overboard. I knew an island with a little two foot deep tidal pool, so I headed there. I explained that it was full of baby sting rays, so shuffle the feet. He didn't have a good time. I told him that uric acid would relieve the pain. He told me that he had always hated boats and the ocean, and even when he lived in a beach town never actually touched the water. I refrained from asking what he was thinking when he decided to spend time with a guy who lives on a boat on the ocean. I asked them all what they wanted to do next, and there was a universal '*I wanna go home*' with the exception of the friend that I had actually invited, who was feeling pretty bad about the situation. He knew that we could have had a great time diving, snorkeling and fishing, but he'd blown it. So we motored back to the truck. Here's the Stugeron part of the story. We're motoring in dead calm, with the sea like glass. One of the guys says 'I'm feeling seasick' and my first reaction was to laugh and say 'dude, you don't know what seasick is...' but I'd been mollycoddling those boys for long enough that I was just tired of it. So I told them where the Stugeron was, in the medicine cabinet in the head. It was like watching bait fish feed on puke. I'm serious, it was dead calm with sea like glass. After they'd passed the Stugeron around, the non-swimmer asked 'Should I take TWO?' At which point I made an executive decision and decided to mess with this guy's head. I explained that Stugeron was banned in the USA, and I had to get it through a Canadian company that exported it from Europe. (*the joke starts here..*) The reason that it was banned in the USA was because it works by constricting blood vessels in male genitalia and sending the blood to the inner ear. One pill will prevent seasickness but will also prevent the man from achieving manhood for two weeks. If one takes two pills, then the blood constriction in the genitalia will be too great, and will create a gangrenous situation that can only be resolved by surgical removal of the genitalia. So they gave me my Stugeron back, and I put it back in the medicine cabinet. Wal PS. Don't ever play Dominoes with me. I tried to tell these folks today that I just wanted to have fun, but they insisted that we play for money. I really just want to have fun, but if you want to take my money I can only smile... -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick (and yes more of my drivel)
Wally We never tire of your stories Mike -Original Message- From: CnC-List on behalf of Wally Bryant via CnC-List Sent: Thu 26/06/2014 12:02 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick (and yes more of my drivel) Jake wrote: Some side effects can be severe. snip Okay, here's a Stugeron side effect story. July of 2010 I was up at Bahia de Los Angeles (28.954N 113.548W) and I don't want to say it was rustic but the village was proud of having had electricity for four years, and getting diesel meant a two mile hike carrying jerry cans in 105F sunshine. I had invited a friend I'd known for 25 years to drive down (with a pickup load of spare parts) and go cruising the nearby islands for a week, doing some diving and snorkeling and fishing. He wasn't a sailor, but I don't need crew. He did send an email asking if he could bring a friend, and I said 'sure, but three is about all that can fit on the boat right now.' Apparently he didn't get the memo. Imagine my surprise when four guys showed up, three of which were primed for a party weekend in Cabo San Lucas. I was thinking 'this is going to be very interesting.' One guy asked 'where's the nearest t_t_y bar' and I said 'Ensenada, you drove through it about 400 miles back.' Eventually I got them on the boat (it was like herding drunken cats) and got under way. Fast forward 36 hours, after two guys decided to have a food fight in the cockpit (which I stopped by explaining that we were 100 miles from the nearest place where I could wash the boat down) and we'd swamped the dinghy (which actually *can* carry five grown men but only if you don't make any sudden moves) and two of my shot glasses were overboard. One guy admitted that he couldn't swim, which is a drag because the only way to get comfortable there in July is to jump overboard. I knew an island with a little two foot deep tidal pool, so I headed there. I explained that it was full of baby sting rays, so shuffle the feet. He didn't have a good time. I told him that uric acid would relieve the pain. He told me that he had always hated boats and the ocean, and even when he lived in a beach town never actually touched the water. I refrained from asking what he was thinking when he decided to spend time with a guy who lives on a boat on the ocean. I asked them all what they wanted to do next, and there was a universal '*I wanna go home*' with the exception of the friend that I had actually invited, who was feeling pretty bad about the situation. He knew that we could have had a great time diving, snorkeling and fishing, but he'd blown it. So we motored back to the truck. Here's the Stugeron part of the story. We're motoring in dead calm, with the sea like glass. One of the guys says 'I'm feeling seasick' and my first reaction was to laugh and say 'dude, you don't know what seasick is...' but I'd been mollycoddling those boys for long enough that I was just tired of it. So I told them where the Stugeron was, in the medicine cabinet in the head. It was like watching bait fish feed on puke. I'm serious, it was dead calm with sea like glass. After they'd passed the Stugeron around, the non-swimmer asked 'Should I take TWO?' At which point I made an executive decision and decided to mess with this guy's head. I explained that Stugeron was banned in the USA, and I had to get it through a Canadian company that exported it from Europe. (*the joke starts here..*) The reason that it was banned in the USA was because it works by constricting blood vessels in male genitalia and sending the blood to the inner ear. One pill will prevent seasickness but will also prevent the man from achieving manhood for two weeks. If one takes two pills, then the blood constriction in the genitalia will be too great, and will create a gangrenous situation that can only be resolved by surgical removal of the genitalia. So they gave me my Stugeron back, and I put it back in the medicine cabinet. Wal PS. Don't ever play Dominoes with me. I tried to tell these folks today that I just wanted to have fun, but they insisted that we play for money. I really just want to have fun, but if you want to take my money I can only smile... -- s/v Stella Blue www.wbryant.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com winmail.dat___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick -- cow's race week
Hey all, I think I found where foredeck cowes started: http://www.cowes.co.uk/ Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 10:15 AM 25/06/2014, you wrote: Personally, I have always been convinced that the statement in the ads is a really smart and subtle promotional message and not a serious health warning. Put there to impress us with the results we might get. But I vote that we don't add comments on the effectiveness of ED meds to foredeck cows and British sports cars as topics for the list. Rick Brass ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick
Stugeron (cinnarizine) gets my vote. No more than 15mg, and no side effects. I don't use it much, and the stuff I have on board is six years old. You can't get it in the US, but I ordered it mail order through Canada. In Mexico they only have 75mg tablets, so one has to cut them into quarters, because too strong a dose will have side effects. Wal you wrote: any pointers to or lists of possible MEDS? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick
PS. I've heard about Ginger but never tried it. Has anyone ever tried Pickled Ginger, like for Sushi? I always keep that on board, but in those rare moments of seasick don't want to experiment. (Especially when single handing.) Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick
Yes, pickled ginger works just as well as candied/crystallized. Ed On Jun 24, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Wally Bryant w...@wbryant.com wrote: PS. I've heard about Ginger but never tried it. Has anyone ever tried Pickled Ginger, like for Sushi? I always keep that on board, but in those rare moments of seasick don't want to experiment. (Especially when single handing.) Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick
My wife swears by ginger. Ginger candy, ginger snaps, ginger this, ginger that. Always has it on board. Danny From my Android phone Original message From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 06/24/2014 10:21 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick PS. I've heard about Ginger but never tried it. Has anyone ever tried Pickled Ginger, like for Sushi? I always keep that on board, but in those rare moments of seasick don't want to experiment. (Especially when single handing.) Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick
I have had flight students use electric wrist band to good effect. Most seasick drugs not approved for flight. One of my dogs got very sick first time out and threw up on my wife :( I taught her to look at the horizon and she is never sick again. You could see her tail go when I pointed where to look thanks master this is a relief. Joe Coquina Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2014, at 13:54, Danny Haughey via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: My wife swears by ginger. Ginger candy, ginger snaps, ginger this, ginger that. Always has it on board. Danny From my Android phone Original message From: Wally Bryant via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: 06/24/2014 10:21 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick PS. I've heard about Ginger but never tried it. Has anyone ever tried Pickled Ginger, like for Sushi? I always keep that on board, but in those rare moments of seasick don't want to experiment. (Especially when single handing.) Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick
Wal, Some side effects can be severe. For erections lasting more than four hours, you should see a doctor. I carried some Stugeron to Bermuda, but thankfully didn't need it. Jake Jake Brodersen Midnight Mistress CC 35 Mk-III Hampton Va -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:24 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Stugeron (cinnarizine) gets my vote. No more than 15mg, and no side effects. I don't use it much, and the stuff I have on board is six years old. You can't get it in the US, but I ordered it mail order through Canada. In Mexico they only have 75mg tablets, so one has to cut them into quarters, because too strong a dose will have side effects. Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick
There is treatment for chronic priapism now. Do you have access to lots of ice? Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 24 June 2014 17:46, Jake Brodersen via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Wal, Some side effects can be severe. For erections lasting more than four hours, you should see a doctor. I carried some Stugeron to Bermuda, but thankfully didn't need it. Jake Jake Brodersen Midnight Mistress CC 35 Mk-III Hampton Va -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:24 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Stugeron (cinnarizine) gets my vote. No more than 15mg, and no side effects. I don't use it much, and the stuff I have on board is six years old. You can't get it in the US, but I ordered it mail order through Canada. In Mexico they only have 75mg tablets, so one has to cut them into quarters, because too strong a dose will have side effects. Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick
If I had an erection lasting more than 4 hours I'd call the Guinness Book of Records first! sam :-) Original Message From: Jake Brodersen via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 6:47 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Reply To: Jake Brodersen Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Wal, Some side effects can be severe. For erections lasting more than four hours, you should see a doctor. I carried some Stugeron to Bermuda, but thankfully didn't need it. Jake Jake Brodersen Midnight Mistress CC 35 Mk-III Hampton Va -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 9:24 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick Stugeron (cinnarizine) gets my vote. No more than 15mg, and no side effects. I don't use it much, and the stuff I have on board is six years old. You can't get it in the US, but I ordered it mail order through Canada. In Mexico they only have 75mg tablets, so one has to cut them into quarters, because too strong a dose will have side effects. Wal ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List getting seasick
Just noticed Joel saying he'd had to turn around because a crewmember was so sick on the way home from Bermuda. (Welcome home, Joel!) *This is a public service message*. As one who suffered for three days on his first offshore passage, I know how bad being seasick can be. Since that time I've racked up more miles under sail than most. I've also introduced a lot of crewmembers and clients to offshore sailing-- where getting seasick is a constant hazard. I have found out what works and what doesn't. I will share it with you for the low, low one-time price of...oh wait, that would mean Stunevermind. During my offshore sailing program where I took sailors to sea for their first offshore experiences, I once had 54 newbies leaving Newport on 10 different boats. our departure was delayed for three days. Each day, we thought we would leave the next day, so everyone took their seasick medication. By the time we finally got out on the water, each crewmember had three days worth of their preferred medication in their system. As a result, only one person was sick in the fairly rough conditions we encountered the first couple of days, and the guy who was sick was a mighty man of the sea who never got seasick and didn't take any meds. It did not matter what kind of meds the sailors were using, as long as it was well into their system. Normally, I would have expected at least 65-75% attrition in those conditions. The above even works for my bride, who gets sick if she looks at a puddle on a windy day. Andy CC 40 Peregrine -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick
any pointers to or lists of possible MEDS? On Jun 23, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Just noticed Joel saying he'd had to turn around because a crewmember was so sick on the way home from Bermuda. (Welcome home, Joel!) This is a public service message. As one who suffered for three days on his first offshore passage, I know how bad being seasick can be. Since that time I've racked up more miles under sail than most. I've also introduced a lot of crewmembers and clients to offshore sailing-- where getting seasick is a constant hazard. I have found out what works and what doesn't. I will share it with you for the low, low one-time price of...oh wait, that would mean Stunevermind. During my offshore sailing program where I took sailors to sea for their first offshore experiences, I once had 54 newbies leaving Newport on 10 different boats. our departure was delayed for three days. Each day, we thought we would leave the next day, so everyone took their seasick medication. By the time we finally got out on the water, each crewmember had three days worth of their preferred medication in their system. As a result, only one person was sick in the fairly rough conditions we encountered the first couple of days, and the guy who was sick was a mighty man of the sea who never got seasick and didn't take any meds. It did not matter what kind of meds the sailors were using, as long as it was well into their system. Normally, I would have expected at least 65-75% attrition in those conditions. The above even works for my bride, who gets sick if she looks at a puddle on a windy day. Andy CC 40 Peregrine -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick
Thank you Veddy Veddy Much for that PSA on STDs (Sea Transmitted Disease) I have forwarded that to all my Mal de Mar friends. Bill Coleman CC 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List getting seasick Just noticed Joel saying he'd had to turn around because a crewmember was so sick on the way home from Bermuda. (Welcome home, Joel!) This is a public service message. As one who suffered for three days on his first offshore passage, I know how bad being seasick can be. Since that time I've racked up more miles under sail than most. I've also introduced a lot of crewmembers and clients to offshore sailing-- where getting seasick is a constant hazard. I have found out what works and what doesn't. I will share it with you for the low, low one-time price of...oh wait, that would mean Stunevermind. During my offshore sailing program where I took sailors to sea for their first offshore experiences, I once had 54 newbies leaving Newport on 10 different boats. our departure was delayed for three days. Each day, we thought we would leave the next day, so everyone took their seasick medication. By the time we finally got out on the water, each crewmember had three days worth of their preferred medication in their system. As a result, only one person was sick in the fairly rough conditions we encountered the first couple of days, and the guy who was sick was a mighty man of the sea who never got seasick and didn't take any meds. It did not matter what kind of meds the sailors were using, as long as it was well into their system. Normally, I would have expected at least 65-75% attrition in those conditions. The above even works for my bride, who gets sick if she looks at a puddle on a windy day. Andy CC 40 Peregrine -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick
Interesting...I have never been seasick, even while cleaning up holding tank backflow down below after rounding Cape Scott, so on the latest trip (Friday Harbor to San Francisco) I thought I'd better take some precautions. I used Bonine for the first two days and felt queasy the whole time. I stopped using Bonine after Day 2 and felt much better, as in normal. The next leg (Hawaii to Friday Harbor) I'm going to skip the Bonine and go with my natural iron gut and see how that works out. : ) Jim Watts Paradigm Shift CC 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 23 June 2014 11:00, Bill Coleman via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Thank you Veddy Veddy Much for that PSA on STD’s (Sea Transmitted Disease) I have forwarded that to all my Mal de Mar friends. Bill Coleman CC 39 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Burton via CnC-List *Sent:* Monday, June 23, 2014 12:58 PM *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Stus-List getting seasick Just noticed Joel saying he'd had to turn around because a crewmember was so sick on the way home from Bermuda. (Welcome home, Joel!) *This is a public service message*. As one who suffered for three days on his first offshore passage, I know how bad being seasick can be. Since that time I've racked up more miles under sail than most. I've also introduced a lot of crewmembers and clients to offshore sailing-- where getting seasick is a constant hazard. I have found out what works and what doesn't. I will share it with you for the low, low one-time price of...oh wait, that would mean Stunevermind. During my offshore sailing program where I took sailors to sea for their first offshore experiences, I once had 54 newbies leaving Newport on 10 different boats. our departure was delayed for three days. Each day, we thought we would leave the next day, so everyone took their seasick medication. By the time we finally got out on the water, each crewmember had three days worth of their preferred medication in their system. As a result, only one person was sick in the fairly rough conditions we encountered the first couple of days, and the guy who was sick was a mighty man of the sea who never got seasick and didn't take any meds. It did not matter what kind of meds the sailors were using, as long as it was well into their system. Normally, I would have expected at least 65-75% attrition in those conditions. The above even works for my bride, who gets sick if she looks at a puddle on a windy day. Andy CC 40 Peregrine -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I am soon to depart for Bermuda to help bring a J/133 home. I can be prone to seasickness especially if I am down below trying to navigate / read etc in poor conditions. I had heard before about the three day ahead dosing trick so will be taking Stugeron from Thursday onwards. Unfortunately Stugeron is not available in the States (I get mine brought over from the UK) -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Jun 23, 2014, at 13:01, D Harben via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: any pointers to or lists of possible MEDS? On Jun 23, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Just noticed Joel saying he'd had to turn around because a crewmember was so sick on the way home from Bermuda. (Welcome home, Joel!) This is a public service message. As one who suffered for three days on his first offshore passage, I know how bad being seasick can be. Since that time I've racked up more miles under sail than most. I've also introduced a lot of crewmembers and clients to offshore sailing-- where getting seasick is a constant hazard. I have found out what works and what doesn't. I will share it with you for the low, low one-time price of...oh wait, that would mean Stunevermind. During my offshore sailing program where I took sailors to sea for their first offshore experiences, I once had 54 newbies leaving Newport on 10 different boats. our departure was delayed for three days. Each day, we thought we would leave the next day, so everyone took their seasick medication. By the time we finally got out on the water, each crewmember had three days worth of their preferred medication in their system. As a result, only one person was sick in the fairly rough conditions we encountered the first couple of days, and the guy who was sick was a mighty man of the sea who never got seasick and didn't take any meds. It did not matter what kind of meds the sailors were using, as long as it was well into their system. Normally, I would have expected at least 65-75% attrition in those conditions. The above even works for my bride, who gets sick if she looks at a puddle on a windy day. Andy CC 40 Peregrine -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Jonathan, I am off on Monday to bring an X 44 to her home in Stonington. See you there! Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am soon to depart for Bermuda to help bring a J/133 home. I can be prone to seasickness especially if I am down below trying to navigate / read etc in poor conditions. I had heard before about the three day ahead dosing trick so will be taking Stugeron from Thursday onwards. Unfortunately Stugeron is not available in the States (I get mine brought over from the UK) -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Jun 23, 2014, at 13:01, D Harben via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: any pointers to or lists of possible MEDS? On Jun 23, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Just noticed Joel saying he'd had to turn around because a crewmember was so sick on the way home from Bermuda. (Welcome home, Joel!) *This is a public service message*. As one who suffered for three days on his first offshore passage, I know how bad being seasick can be. Since that time I've racked up more miles under sail than most. I've also introduced a lot of crewmembers and clients to offshore sailing-- where getting seasick is a constant hazard. I have found out what works and what doesn't. I will share it with you for the low, low one-time price of...oh wait, that would mean Stunevermind. During my offshore sailing program where I took sailors to sea for their first offshore experiences, I once had 54 newbies leaving Newport on 10 different boats. our departure was delayed for three days. Each day, we thought we would leave the next day, so everyone took their seasick medication. By the time we finally got out on the water, each crewmember had three days worth of their preferred medication in their system. As a result, only one person was sick in the fairly rough conditions we encountered the first couple of days, and the guy who was sick was a mighty man of the sea who never got seasick and didn't take any meds. It did not matter what kind of meds the sailors were using, as long as it was well into their system. Normally, I would have expected at least 65-75% attrition in those conditions. The above even works for my bride, who gets sick if she looks at a puddle on a windy day. Andy CC 40 Peregrine -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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The couple of times I’ve been sick, the Stugeron worked well — even AFTER the onset of symptoms. Your mileage may vary; and know that it’s NOT approved for use in the U.S. But widely available in most of the rest of the world. And online via canadianpharmacyonline.com… As a disclaimer, I’m not a physician (although the Admiral is). I’m not advocating this for everyone. I’m just passing on personal experience… check with your doctor before dosing yourself with anything. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 23, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am soon to depart for Bermuda to help bring a J/133 home. I can be prone to seasickness especially if I am down below trying to navigate / read etc in poor conditions. I had heard before about the three day ahead dosing trick so will be taking Stugeron from Thursday onwards. Unfortunately Stugeron is not available in the States (I get mine brought over from the UK) -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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But Andy, What's the order of your prescriptions? Minor to Stergeron, almost all choices only work for 20% of the population. I do fine with Bomine in my system, and we all are a little sluggish the first couple days. We did have a doc suggest cutting the patches in half - you may not need the whole dose. 2 cents, Lee Thank you Veddy Veddy Much for that PSA on STD's (Sea Transmitted Disease) I have forwarded that to all my Mal de Mar friends. Bill Coleman CC 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List getting seasick Just noticed Joel saying he'd had to turn around because a crewmember was so sick on the way home from Bermuda. (Welcome home, Joel!) This is a public service message. As one who suffered for three days on his first offshore passage, I know how bad being seasick can be. Since that time I've racked up more miles under sail than most. I've also introduced a lot of crewmembers and clients to offshore sailing-- where getting seasick is a constant hazard. I have found out what works and what doesn't. I will share it with you for the low, low one-time price of...oh wait, that would mean Stunevermind. During my offshore sailing program where I took sailors to sea for their first offshore experiences, I once had 54 newbies leaving Newport on 10 different boats. our departure was delayed for three days. Each day, we thought we would leave the next day, so everyone took their seasick medication. By the time we finally got out on the water, each crewmember had three days worth of their preferred medication in their system. As a result, only one person was sick in the fairly rough conditions we encountered the first couple of days, and the guy who was sick was a mighty man of the sea who never got seasick and didn't take any meds. It did not matter what kind of meds the sailors were using, as long as it was well into their system. Normally, I would have expected at least 65-75% attrition in those conditions. The above even works for my bride, who gets sick if she looks at a puddle on a windy day. Andy CC 40 Peregrine -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Lee Youngblood l...@1gigharbor.com (425) 444-9109 Your Shilshole Sailboat Broker Gig Harbor Yacht Sales | Seattle Office @ Dockside Solutions 7001 Seaview Avenue NW #160 Seattle, WA 98117 New Office Phone (206) 707-1778 GHYS website: http://www.1gigharbor.com/ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I'm somewhat prone to seasickness. I found through personal experience when I was much younger the following three precautions that I try my best to follow: 1. Get enough sleep the night before boating. Being sleepy is similar to dizziness (at least for me) and sleepiness can make seasickness (unless it is caused by Bonine) more likely (unless you can just sleep) 2. Don't be hung-over. Same as sleepiness but with nausea added. Starting out like that is a bad move. 3. Eat a decent breakfast. Low blood sugar and/or a stomach full of junk (candy bars, Fritos, donuts) can cause dizziness and nausea which the gentle motion of the sea will push squarely into the red zone. I've tried ginger in various forms and am not quite convinced of its effectiveness. Never heard of Stugeron but am now interested in trying it. I see online that the active ingredient is an antihistamine: Cinnarzine. How is the drowsiness compared to that of Bonine (meclizine)? I see that the brain has a vomit center. The trick is to prevent signals originating in the inner ear from reaching the VC. Apparently antihistamines are able to do this. And, it seems, they always make you more or less sleepy. Ron On Jun 23, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The couple of times I’ve been sick, the Stugeron worked well — even AFTER the onset of symptoms. Your mileage may vary; and know that it’s NOT approved for use in the U.S. But widely available in most of the rest of the world. And online via canadianpharmacyonline.com… As a disclaimer, I’m not a physician (although the Admiral is). I’m not advocating this for everyone. I’m just passing on personal experience… check with your doctor before dosing yourself with anything. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 23, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am soon to depart for Bermuda to help bring a J/133 home. I can be prone to seasickness especially if I am down below trying to navigate / read etc in poor conditions. I had heard before about the three day ahead dosing trick so will be taking Stugeron from Thursday onwards. Unfortunately Stugeron is not available in the States (I get mine brought over from the UK) -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I noticed that it didn't seem to matter what people took as long as they took something. Andy CC 40 Peregrine On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Lee Youngblood via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: But Andy, What's the order of your prescriptions? Minor to Stergeron, almost all choices only work for 20% of the population. I do fine with Bomine in my system, and we all are a little sluggish the first couple days. We did have a doc suggest cutting the patches in half - you may not need the whole dose. 2 cents, Lee Thank you Veddy Veddy Much for that PSA on STD's (Sea Transmitted Disease) I have forwarded that to all my Mal de Mar friends. Bill Coleman CC 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List getting seasick Just noticed Joel saying he'd had to turn around because a crewmember was so sick on the way home from Bermuda. (Welcome home, Joel!) This is a public service message. As one who suffered for three days on his first offshore passage, I know how bad being seasick can be. Since that time I've racked up more miles under sail than most. I've also introduced a lot of crewmembers and clients to offshore sailing-- where getting seasick is a constant hazard. I have found out what works and what doesn't. I will share it with you for the low, low one-time price of...oh wait, that would mean Stunevermind. During my offshore sailing program where I took sailors to sea for their first offshore experiences, I once had 54 newbies leaving Newport on 10 different boats. our departure was delayed for three days. Each day, we thought we would leave the next day, so everyone took their seasick medication. By the time we finally got out on the water, each crewmember had three days worth of their preferred medication in their system. As a result, only one person was sick in the fairly rough conditions we encountered the first couple of days, and the guy who was sick was a mighty man of the sea who never got seasick and didn't take any meds. It did not matter what kind of meds the sailors were using, as long as it was well into their system. Normally, I would have expected at least 65-75% attrition in those conditions. The above even works for my bride, who gets sick if she looks at a puddle on a windy day. Andy CC 40 Peregrine -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/htt p://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Lee Youngblood l...@1gigharbor.com (425) 444-9109 Your Shilshole Sailboat Broker Gig Harbor Yacht Sales | Seattle Office @ Dockside Solutions 7001 Seaview Avenue NW #160 Seattle, WA 98117 New Office Phone (206) 707-1778 GHYS website: http://www.1gigharbor.com/ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I recommend Zofran,an anti nausea drug. Only needed it twice this time, but I was glad I had it. I also use the scolpalamine patch. Joel On Monday, June 23, 2014, Ron Kaye via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I'm somewhat prone to seasickness. I found through personal experience when I was much younger the following three precautions that I try my best to follow: 1. Get enough sleep the night before boating. Being sleepy is similar to dizziness (at least for me) and sleepiness can make seasickness (unless it is caused by Bonine) more likely (unless you can just sleep) 2. Don't be hung-over. Same as sleepiness but with nausea added. Starting out like that is a bad move. 3. Eat a decent breakfast. Low blood sugar and/or a stomach full of junk (candy bars, Fritos, donuts) can cause dizziness and nausea which the gentle motion of the sea will push squarely into the red zone. I've tried ginger in various forms and am not quite convinced of its effectiveness. Never heard of Stugeron but am now interested in trying it. I see online that the active ingredient is an antihistamine: Cinnarzine. How is the drowsiness compared to that of Bonine (meclizine)? I see that the brain has a vomit center. The trick is to prevent signals originating in the inner ear from reaching the VC. Apparently antihistamines are able to do this. And, it seems, they always make you more or less sleepy. Ron On Jun 23, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: The couple of times I’ve been sick, the Stugeron worked well — even AFTER the onset of symptoms. Your mileage may vary; and know that it’s NOT approved for use in the U.S. But widely available in most of the rest of the world. And online via canadianpharmacyonline.com… As a disclaimer, I’m not a physician (although the Admiral is). I’m not advocating this for everyone. I’m just passing on personal experience… check with your doctor before dosing yourself with *anything*. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 23, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com'); wrote: I am soon to depart for Bermuda to help bring a J/133 home. I can be prone to seasickness especially if I am down below trying to navigate / read etc in poor conditions. I had heard before about the three day ahead dosing trick so will be taking Stugeron from Thursday onwards. Unfortunately Stugeron is not available in the States (I get mine brought over from the UK) -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','CnC-List@cnc-list.com'); To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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Not as many miles as Andy, but 8 Bermuda round trips a dozen round-trips Maine to Florida/Carribean et al... Sturgeron has been the drug of choice all those times for those prone. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 13:02:29 -0700 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick/ choices? From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com But Andy, What's the order of your prescriptions? Minor to Stergeron, almost all choices only work for 20% of the population. I do fine with Bomine in my system, and we all are a little sluggish the first couple days. We did have a doc suggest cutting the patches in half - you may not need the whole dose. 2 cents, Lee Thank you Veddy Veddy Much for that PSA on STD's (Sea Transmitted Disease) I have forwarded that to all my Mal de Mar friends. Bill Coleman CC 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:58 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List getting seasick Just noticed Joel saying he'd had to turn around because a crewmember was so sick on the way home from Bermuda. (Welcome home, Joel!) This is a public service message. As one who suffered for three days on his first offshore passage, I know how bad being seasick can be. Since that time I've racked up more miles under sail than most. I've also introduced a lot of crewmembers and clients to offshore sailing-- where getting seasick is a constant hazard. I have found out what works and what doesn't. I will share it with you for the low, low one-time price of...oh wait, that would mean Stunevermind. During my offshore sailing program where I took sailors to sea for their first offshore experiences, I once had 54 newbies leaving Newport on 10 different boats. our departure was delayed for three days. Each day, we thought we would leave the next day, so everyone took their seasick medication. By the time we finally got out on the water, each crewmember had three days worth of their preferred medication in their system. As a result, only one person was sick in the fairly rough conditions we encountered the first couple of days, and the guy who was sick was a mighty man of the sea who never got seasick and didn't take any meds. It did not matter what kind of meds the sailors were using, as long as it was well into their system. Normally, I would have expected at least 65-75% attrition in those conditions. The above even works for my bride, who gets sick if she looks at a puddle on a windy day. Andy CC 40 Peregrine -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Lee Youngblood l...@1gigharbor.com (425) 444-9109 Your Shilshole Sailboat Broker Gig Harbor Yacht Sales | Seattle Office @ Dockside Solutions 7001 Seaview Avenue NW #160 Seattle, WA 98117 New Office Phone (206) 707-1778 GHYS website: http://www.1gigharbor.com/ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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I don¹t have much opportunity to get seasick here on Lake Champlain, but on the cold, stormy North Pacific in Alaska, where I lived for years (my brother still has a fishing boat on Prince William Sound) I was always seasick. Sailing on the Tustumena from Homer to Kodiak, often meant 9 hours of 30 foot seas and 40-50 know wind. Dramamine didn¹t work for me, although I¹m intrigued by the 3 day previous idea, but since then I found ginger. Not the tiny amount in ginger ale or ginger snaps, but the chewable wafers that melt in your mouth that contain lots of real ginger. If you can¹t find those, then crystallized ginger can be found in health food stores and co-ops and also works well. My partner Kathy gets seasick watching boats from shore, and the ginger really works for her. Ed From: D Harben sailadventu...@rogers.com Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 13:01:17 -0400 To: Andrew Burton a.burton.sai...@gmail.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick any pointers to or lists of possible MEDS? On Jun 23, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Just noticed Joel saying he'd had to turn around because a crewmember was so sick on the way home from Bermuda. (Welcome home, Joel!) This is a public service message. As one who suffered for three days on his first offshore passage, I know how bad being seasick can be. Since that time I've racked up more miles under sail than most. I've also introduced a lot of crewmembers and clients to offshore sailing-- where getting seasick is a constant hazard. I have found out what works and what doesn't. I will share it with you for the low, low one-time price of...oh wait, that would mean Stunevermind. During my offshore sailing program where I took sailors to sea for their first offshore experiences, I once had 54 newbies leaving Newport on 10 different boats. our departure was delayed for three days. Each day, we thought we would leave the next day, so everyone took their seasick medication. By the time we finally got out on the water, each crewmember had three days worth of their preferred medication in their system. As a result, only one person was sick in the fairly rough conditions we encountered the first couple of days, and the guy who was sick was a mighty man of the sea who never got seasick and didn't take any meds. It did not matter what kind of meds the sailors were using, as long as it was well into their system. Normally, I would have expected at least 65-75% attrition in those conditions. The above even works for my bride, who gets sick if she looks at a puddle on a windy day. Andy CC 40 Peregrine -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List getting seasick
I’ve had very good luck with Stugeron. I took it once during an ocean race where I was below for an extended period doing a bunch of clean up in rough conditions and was feeling better pretty quickly I’ve also seen it work with people that are prone to seasickness. I have not had a problem with drowsiness. Steve Sharkey Impromptu From: Ron Kaye via CnC-List Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 4:11 PM To: Frederick G Street ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List getting seasick I'm somewhat prone to seasickness. I found through personal experience when I was much younger the following three precautions that I try my best to follow: 1. Get enough sleep the night before boating. Being sleepy is similar to dizziness (at least for me) and sleepiness can make seasickness (unless it is caused by Bonine) more likely (unless you can just sleep) 2. Don't be hung-over. Same as sleepiness but with nausea added. Starting out like that is a bad move. 3. Eat a decent breakfast. Low blood sugar and/or a stomach full of junk (candy bars, Fritos, donuts) can cause dizziness and nausea which the gentle motion of the sea will push squarely into the red zone. I've tried ginger in various forms and am not quite convinced of its effectiveness. Never heard of Stugeron but am now interested in trying it. I see online that the active ingredient is an antihistamine: Cinnarzine. How is the drowsiness compared to that of Bonine (meclizine)? I see that the brain has a vomit center. The trick is to prevent signals originating in the inner ear from reaching the VC. Apparently antihistamines are able to do this. And, it seems, they always make you more or less sleepy. Ron On Jun 23, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: The couple of times I’ve been sick, the Stugeron worked well — even AFTER the onset of symptoms. Your mileage may vary; and know that it’s NOT approved for use in the U.S. But widely available in most of the rest of the world. And online via canadianpharmacyonline.com… As a disclaimer, I’m not a physician (although the Admiral is). I’m not advocating this for everyone. I’m just passing on personal experience… check with your doctor before dosing yourself with anything. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 23, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Indigo via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: I am soon to depart for Bermuda to help bring a J/133 home. I can be prone to seasickness especially if I am down below trying to navigate / read etc in poor conditions. I had heard before about the three day ahead dosing trick so will be taking Stugeron from Thursday onwards. Unfortunately Stugeron is not available in the States (I get mine brought over from the UK) -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
