Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Hald held radios in the cockpit are not Gybe-proof or Broach-proof.

In the first case had a Cobra submersible handheld sitting in a cupholder on 
the binnacle.  A gybe on a windy day had the main sheet tear it apart!  Antenna 
and all control buttons completely torn off and the battery gone. Despite the 
open transom on the C 115 the radio itself stayed aboard.  The second 
instance was a waterproof handheld situated in a cupholder in the cockpit of 
our J27.  A spectacular broach put some water in the cockpit and the boat 
horizontal briefly at which time the radio fell out of the cupholder.  Luckily 
it stayed aboard.

Our ram mic on persistence is located beneath the helm seat and is out of the 
way of the main sheet and feet and all other lines.  It is attached to the boat 
so does tend to stay aboard …

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

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Cc: Marek Dziedzic
Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

Hard to argue the first point. Things that are not attached have a propensity 
to dive off the boat the very moment you turn your head and often don’t even 
wait for that.

But re the second point, I have a handheld VHF radio (an older Icom) and its 
Lithium battery seems to last forever (usually most of the season, but I bring 
it home to recharge once every couple of months). And it has a 12 V cradle, as 
well, so you could charge it every time your on-board systems are on.

Marek

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Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 12:38
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Frederick G Street<mailto:f...@postaudio.net>
Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

That’s supposed to be a pretty nice radio; but I have an issue with the whole 
wireless remote mic thing.

First, has anyone ever lost overboard something that wasn’t firmly attached to 
the boat?  And secondly, has anyone gone to use a piece of rechargeable 
battery-powered electronics, only to find that the battery was dead?  Neither 
of these scenarios apply to a hard-wired remote mic like the S-H or the Icom.

Otherwise, I’d agree that the Simard was a great option.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks amazing for 
the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two wireless remote 
mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote mike is $139.99.  The 
comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike and cable is $274.98.  So, 
$469.98 vs. $674.97.

Gary
S/V High Maintenance
'90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hey,

I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD radios. Nice 
gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.

My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad because 
NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don’t have any other electronics, 
and don’t plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then don’t worry about it 
and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you think you might want to 
install a chartplotter, and display the AIS information on the plotter screen, 
and / or you plan on interfacing a plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or 
ANYTHING else, I strongly recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface.

With NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny wires 
together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the listener. 
You just plug the cable in and it works.

Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I think 
icom does too

The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless and you 
can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second handset.

Good luck,
Barry



Barry Lenoble
leno...@optonline.net<mailto:leno...@optonline.net>
Deep Blue C, C 110
Mt. Sinai, NY
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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Jim Reinardy via CnC-List]

I had a wired remote mic on my old Catalina 27 with a tiller.  That never 
worked very well for me because the cord kept getting in the way.  When I 
bought Firewater, I installed the Simrad RS25, which is the predecessor to the 
35.  It has the wireless remote, but not AIS.  At that time, the boat had no 
wiring going to the pedestal and I was not wild about drilling the hole in the 
cockpit floor for the first wires.  I have since put a Triton display at the 
helm, so I would be more comfortable with the wired mic if I were buying it 
today.  

 

We have liked the convenience of the wireless, though you do have to monitor 
battery usage.  We do mostly racing and short cruises so it has not been a big 
deal for us.  The sound quality on the 25 remote mic has been great, no 
complaints.  With regard to keeping it on board, I bought one of these: 

http://mobility.snapitproducts.com/snapit-marine/products/v007/v007-handheld-electronics-device-holder

to mount at the helm.  The mic is either in someone’s hand or in the holder and 
we have not had any issues.

 

Regards,

 

Jim Reinardy

C 30-2 “Firewater”

Milwaukee, WI

 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 8:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Rick Brass <rickbr...@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

 

I hear what you are saying, Fred. And I have to agree.

 

Imzadi has a fixed mount VHF at the helm and also a separate fixed mount at the 
nav station. Each is connected to a GPS (the one at the helm is the Garmin 
chartplotter), and each has a dedicated antenna.

 

While I like the redundancy, the real reasons I have 2 fixed mount VHFs are: 

1) a handheld only has a range of a couple of miles on a good day, and 

2) around 50 years of boating experience has led me to the conviction that a 
handheld radio is a holder for dead batteries.

 

For not much more than the cost of the $139 RAM mike you could install a fairly 
good SH VHF radio and a dedicated antenna. And neither would ever fall 
overboard.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 12:38 PM
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Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net <mailto:f...@postaudio.net> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

 

First, has anyone ever lost overboard something that wasn’t firmly attached to 
the boat?  And secondly, has anyone gone to use a piece of rechargeable 
battery-powered electronics, only to find that the battery was dead?  Neither 
of these scenarios apply to a hard-wired remote mic like the S-H or the Icom.

 

 

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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Hi Fred,
 I was thinking the same thing about the wireless mike(having lost a
hand held radio overboard before).  Of course, if you will accept the idea
of a mike with a cord, you can always attach a fabric cord to the wireless
mike to keep it in the boat.  The battery is a different issue.

Thanks for your input,
Gary
S/V High Maintenance
'90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> That’s supposed to be a pretty nice radio; but I have an issue with the
> whole wireless remote mic thing.
>
> First, has anyone ever lost overboard something that wasn’t firmly
> attached to the boat?  And secondly, has anyone gone to use a piece of
> rechargeable battery-powered electronics, only to find that the battery was
> dead?  Neither of these scenarios apply to a hard-wired remote mic like the
> S-H or the Icom.
>
> Otherwise, I’d agree that the Simard was a great option.
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks amazing
> for the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two wireless
> remote mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote mike is
> $139.99.  The comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike and
> cable is $274.98.  So, $469.98 vs. $674.97.
>
> Gary
> S/V High Maintenance
> '90 C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>
> ~~~_/)~~
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>>
>>
>> I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD radios.
>> Nice gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad
>> because NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don’t have any other
>> electronics, and don’t plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then
>> don’t worry about it and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you
>> think you might want to install a chartplotter, and display the AIS
>> information on the plotter screen, and / or you plan on interfacing a
>> plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or ANYTHING else, I strongly
>> recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface.
>>
>>
>>
>> With NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny
>> wires together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the
>> listener. You just plug the cable in and it works.
>>
>>
>>
>> Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I
>> think icom does too
>>
>>
>>
>> The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless
>> and you can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second
>> handset.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Barry Lenoble
>>
>> leno...@optonline.net
>>
>> Deep Blue C, C 110
>>
>> Mt. Sinai, NY
>>
>
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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I agree, Fred.  If you want a wireless remote mic, buy a handheld VHF,
specifically the Standard Horizon HX850S.

No, it won't pump out 25 watts but your wireless remote won't work in your
dinghy away from the boat, either.

I have a hardwired RAM3 at the helm for my Standard Horizon VHF.  Love it.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> That’s supposed to be a pretty nice radio; but I have an issue with the
> whole wireless remote mic thing.
>
> First, has anyone ever lost overboard something that wasn’t firmly
> attached to the boat?  And secondly, has anyone gone to use a piece of
> rechargeable battery-powered electronics, only to find that the battery was
> dead?  Neither of these scenarios apply to a hard-wired remote mic like the
> S-H or the Icom.
>
> Otherwise, I’d agree that the Simard was a great option.
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks amazing
> for the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two wireless
> remote mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote mike is
> $139.99.  The comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike and
> cable is $274.98.  So, $469.98 vs. $674.97.
>
> Gary
> S/V High Maintenance
> '90 C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>
> ~~~_/)~~
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>>
>>
>> I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD radios.
>> Nice gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad
>> because NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don’t have any other
>> electronics, and don’t plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then
>> don’t worry about it and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you
>> think you might want to install a chartplotter, and display the AIS
>> information on the plotter screen, and / or you plan on interfacing a
>> plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or ANYTHING else, I strongly
>> recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface.
>>
>>
>>
>> With NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny
>> wires together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the
>> listener. You just plug the cable in and it works.
>>
>>
>>
>> Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I
>> think icom does too
>>
>>
>>
>> The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless
>> and you can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second
>> handset.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Barry Lenoble
>>
>> leno...@optonline.net
>>
>> Deep Blue C, C 110
>>
>> Mt. Sinai, NY
>>
>
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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Hard to argue the first point. Things that are not attached have a propensity 
to dive off the boat the very moment you turn your head and often don’t even 
wait for that.

But re the second point, I have a handheld VHF radio (an older Icom) and its 
Lithium battery seems to last forever (usually most of the season, but I bring 
it home to recharge once every couple of months). And it has a 12 V cradle, as 
well, so you could charge it every time your on-board systems are on.

Marek

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 12:38
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

That’s supposed to be a pretty nice radio; but I have an issue with the whole 
wireless remote mic thing. 

First, has anyone ever lost overboard something that wasn’t firmly attached to 
the boat?  And secondly, has anyone gone to use a piece of rechargeable 
battery-powered electronics, only to find that the battery was dead?  Neither 
of these scenarios apply to a hard-wired remote mic like the S-H or the Icom.

Otherwise, I’d agree that the Simard was a great option.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

  On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

  Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks amazing for 
the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two wireless remote 
mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote mike is $139.99.  The 
comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike and cable is $274.98.  So, 
$469.98 vs. $674.97. 

  Gary
  S/V High Maintenance
  '90 C 37+
  East Greenwich, RI, USA

  ~~~_/)~~



  On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Hey,



I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD radios. 
Nice gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.



My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad 
because NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don’t have any other 
electronics, and don’t plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then don’t 
worry about it and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you think you 
might want to install a chartplotter, and display the AIS information on the 
plotter screen, and / or you plan on interfacing a plotter to an autopilot, 
wind instrument, or ANYTHING else, I strongly recommend you buy a VHF that has 
NMEA 2000 interface. 



With NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny 
wires together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the 
listener. You just plug the cable in and it works. 



Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I 
think icom does too



The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless and 
you can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second 
handset. 



Good luck,

Barry







Barry Lenoble

leno...@optonline.net

Deep Blue C, C 110

Mt. Sinai, NY
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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Marek,
Agreed.  I have an iCom portable that I've had for several years and
never had a battery problem.  It's all about good design and proper
maintenance, I guess.
Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hard to argue the first point. Things that are not attached have a
> propensity to dive off the boat the very moment you turn your head and
> often don’t even wait for that.
>
> But re the second point, I have a handheld VHF radio (an older Icom) and
> its Lithium battery seems to last forever (usually most of the season, but
> I bring it home to recharge once every couple of months). And it has a 12 V
> cradle, as well, so you could charge it every time your on-board systems
> are on.
>
> Marek
>
> *From:* Frederick G Street via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 8, 2016 12:38
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS
>
> That’s supposed to be a pretty nice radio; but I have an issue with the
> whole wireless remote mic thing.
>
> First, has anyone ever lost overboard something that wasn’t firmly
> attached to the boat?  And secondly, has anyone gone to use a piece of
> rechargeable battery-powered electronics, only to find that the battery was
> dead?  Neither of these scenarios apply to a hard-wired remote mic like the
> S-H or the Icom.
>
> Otherwise, I’d agree that the Simard was a great option.
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks amazing
> for the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two wireless
> remote mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote mike is
> $139.99.  The comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike and
> cable is $274.98.  So, $469.98 vs. $674.97.
>
> Gary
> S/V High Maintenance
> '90 C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>
> ~~~_/)~~
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>>
>>
>> I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD radios.
>> Nice gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad
>> because NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don’t have any other
>> electronics, and don’t plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then
>> don’t worry about it and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you
>> think you might want to install a chartplotter, and display the AIS
>> information on the plotter screen, and / or you plan on interfacing a
>> plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or ANYTHING else, I strongly
>> recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface.
>>
>>
>>
>> With NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny
>> wires together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the
>> listener. You just plug the cable in and it works.
>>
>>
>>
>> Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I
>> think icom does too
>>
>>
>>
>> The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless
>> and you can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second
>> handset.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Barry Lenoble
>>
>> leno...@optonline.net
>>
>> Deep Blue C, C 110
>>
>> Mt. Sinai, NY
>>
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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi all, 
Happy new year! 
My boat came with an old icon vhf that I believed was noon functioning from the 
Surveyor.   It turned out that the antenna was not connected and it does in 
fact work. 
Well,  while I didn't know it was functioning,  I bought the SH with AIS from 
fred but,  never installed it.  I realize the convenience of having a stronger 
solution at the helm tab a handheld,  I've been wondering if it would be a good 
idea to install the new SH in the cockpit. 
The icom, although old,  is considered a nice unit.  I hate to throw it away 
but,  I have this new SH I'm not sure What to do with and I like the AIS 
function.
Any comments or insights? 
Thanks, DannyMattapoisett,  ma


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: 
"Dennis C. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 1/8/2016  2:49 PM  
(GMT-05:00) To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Dennis C." 
<capt...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS 
I'm guessing SH won't be long offering NMEA 2000 units.

Dennis C.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
I like the SH radio, but my boat is wired for NMEA 2000.Gary
~~~_/)~~



On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:
I agree, Fred.  If you want a wireless remote mic, buy a handheld VHF, 
specifically the Standard Horizon HX850S.  

No, it won't pump out 25 watts but your wireless remote won't work in your 
dinghy away from the boat, either.

I have a hardwired RAM3 at the helm for my Standard Horizon VHF.  Love it.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
That’s supposed to be a pretty nice radio; but I have an issue with the whole 
wireless remote mic thing.
First, has anyone ever lost overboard something that wasn’t firmly attached to 
the boat?  And secondly, has anyone gone to use a piece of rechargeable 
battery-powered electronics, only to find that the battery was dead?  Neither 
of these scenarios apply to a hard-wired remote mic like the S-H or the Icom.
Otherwise, I’d agree that the Simard was a great option.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(


On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:
Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks amazing for 
the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two wireless remote 
mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote mike is $139.99.  The 
comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike and cable is $274.98.  So, 
$469.98 vs. $674.97.
GaryS/V High Maintenance'90 C 37+East Greenwich, RI, USA
~~~_/)~~



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Hey, I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD radios. 
Nice gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc. My comment is this: The SH 
radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad because NMEA 2000 is much easier to 
integrate. If you don’t have any other electronics, and don’t plan on 
integrating the radio to a plotter, then don’t worry about it and the SH radio 
is a good choice. However, if you think you might want to install a 
chartplotter, and display the AIS information on the plotter screen, and / or 
you plan on interfacing a plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or ANYTHING 
else, I strongly recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface.  With 
NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny wires 
together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the listener. 
You just plug the cable in and it works.  Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with 
NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I think icom does too The Simrad unit is nice 
because the second station handset is wireless and you can carry it with you. 
The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second handset.  Good luck,Barry   Barry 
Lenoblelenoble@optonline.netDeep Blue C, C 110Mt. Sinai, NY
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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

"I bet 80% of boats have at least some 0183 gear still."

I sure do, and I'm resistant to change to 2000.  I like the MFDs that
incorporate 0183 and 2000 and I think even bridge between the two.  0183
works, is open, and is more or less readable with a standard serial port.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> It might be longer than you think, as NMEA2k certification is a long and
expensive process for the manufacturers… S-H may not want to mess with it.
>>
>> — Fred
>>
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm guessing SH won't be long offering NMEA 2000 units.
>>>
>>> Dennis C.
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

I like the SH radio, but my boat is wired for NMEA 2000.
Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I agree, Fred.  If you want a wireless remote mic, buy a handheld VHF,
> specifically the Standard Horizon HX850S.
>
> No, it won't pump out 25 watts but your wireless remote won't work in your
> dinghy away from the boat, either.
>
> I have a hardwired RAM3 at the helm for my Standard Horizon VHF.  Love it.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> That’s supposed to be a pretty nice radio; but I have an issue with the
>> whole wireless remote mic thing.
>>
>> First, has anyone ever lost overboard something that wasn’t firmly
>> attached to the boat?  And secondly, has anyone gone to use a piece of
>> rechargeable battery-powered electronics, only to find that the battery was
>> dead?  Neither of these scenarios apply to a hard-wired remote mic like the
>> S-H or the Icom.
>>
>> Otherwise, I’d agree that the Simard was a great option.
>>
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks amazing
>> for the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two wireless
>> remote mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote mike is
>> $139.99.  The comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike and
>> cable is $274.98.  So, $469.98 vs. $674.97.
>>
>> Gary
>> S/V High Maintenance
>> '90 C 37+
>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>
>> ~~~_/)~~
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD
>>> radios. Nice gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad
>>> because NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don’t have any other
>>> electronics, and don’t plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then
>>> don’t worry about it and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you
>>> think you might want to install a chartplotter, and display the AIS
>>> information on the plotter screen, and / or you plan on interfacing a
>>> plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or ANYTHING else, I strongly
>>> recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny
>>> wires together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the
>>> listener. You just plug the cable in and it works.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I
>>> think icom does too
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless
>>> and you can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second
>>> handset.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Barry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Barry Lenoble
>>>
>>> leno...@optonline.net
>>>
>>> Deep Blue C, C 110
>>>
>>> Mt. Sinai, NY
>>>
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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

I bet 80% of boats have at least some 0183 gear still.  Heck, I just shut
down a Windows XP machine!

Joel

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> It might be longer than you think, as NMEA2k certification is a long and
> expensive process for the manufacturers… S-H may not want to mess with it.
>
> — Fred
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Jan 8, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I'm guessing SH won't be long offering NMEA 2000 units.
>
> Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Just hang in there, I am sure next year they will have it in 2000 NMEA. Heaven 
forbid they do all this at one time.

When I bought my 2150, I was cursing them for not putting the gps in it, and of 
course, why do that when they can put it in a couple years later and push 
everyone into an upgrade, just like all the computer crap.  That is what makes 
the world go around.

 

Bill Coleman

C 39 

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 2:34 PM
To: C List
Cc: Gary Russell
Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

 

I like the SH radio, but my boat is wired for NMEA 2000.

Gary




~~~_/)~~

 

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

I agree, Fred.  If you want a wireless remote mic, buy a handheld VHF, 
specifically the Standard Horizon HX850S.  

No, it won't pump out 25 watts but your wireless remote won't work in your 
dinghy away from the boat, either.

I have a hardwired RAM3 at the helm for my Standard Horizon VHF.  Love it.

Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83

Mandeville, LA

 

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

That’s supposed to be a pretty nice radio; but I have an issue with the whole 
wireless remote mic thing.

 

First, has anyone ever lost overboard something that wasn’t firmly attached to 
the boat?  And secondly, has anyone gone to use a piece of rechargeable 
battery-powered electronics, only to find that the battery was dead?  Neither 
of these scenarios apply to a hard-wired remote mic like the S-H or the Icom.

 

Otherwise, I’d agree that the Simard was a great option.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

 

Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks amazing for 
the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two wireless remote 
mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote mike is $139.99.  The 
comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike and cable is $274.98.  So, 
$469.98 vs. $674.97.

 

Gary

S/V High Maintenance

'90 C 37+

East Greenwich, RI, USA




~~~_/)~~

 

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Hey,

 

I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD radios. Nice 
gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.

 

My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad because 
NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don’t have any other electronics, 
and don’t plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then don’t worry about it 
and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you think you might want to 
install a chartplotter, and display the AIS information on the plotter screen, 
and / or you plan on interfacing a plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or 
ANYTHING else, I strongly recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface. 

 

With NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny wires 
together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the listener. 
You just plug the cable in and it works. 

 

Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I think 
icom does too

 

The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless and you 
can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second handset. 

 

Good luck,

Barry

 

 

 

Barry Lenoble

leno...@optonline.net

Deep Blue C, C 110

Mt. Sinai, NY

 

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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I'm guessing SH won't be long offering NMEA 2000 units.

Dennis C.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I like the SH radio, but my boat is wired for NMEA 2000.
> Gary
>
> ~~~_/)~~
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree, Fred.  If you want a wireless remote mic, buy a handheld VHF,
>> specifically the Standard Horizon HX850S.
>>
>> No, it won't pump out 25 watts but your wireless remote won't work in
>> your dinghy away from the boat, either.
>>
>> I have a hardwired RAM3 at the helm for my Standard Horizon VHF.  Love it.
>>
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That’s supposed to be a pretty nice radio; but I have an issue with the
>>> whole wireless remote mic thing.
>>>
>>> First, has anyone ever lost overboard something that wasn’t firmly
>>> attached to the boat?  And secondly, has anyone gone to use a piece of
>>> rechargeable battery-powered electronics, only to find that the battery was
>>> dead?  Neither of these scenarios apply to a hard-wired remote mic like the
>>> S-H or the Icom.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, I’d agree that the Simard was a great option.
>>>
>>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks
>>> amazing for the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two
>>> wireless remote mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote
>>> mike is $139.99.  The comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike
>>> and cable is $274.98.  So, $469.98 vs. $674.97.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>> S/V High Maintenance
>>> '90 C 37+
>>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>>
>>> ~~~_/)~~
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hey,



 I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD
 radios. Nice gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.



 My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad
 because NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don’t have any other
 electronics, and don’t plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then
 don’t worry about it and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you
 think you might want to install a chartplotter, and display the AIS
 information on the plotter screen, and / or you plan on interfacing a
 plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or ANYTHING else, I strongly
 recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface.



 With NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny
 wires together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the
 listener. You just plug the cable in and it works.



 Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I
 think icom does too



 The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless
 and you can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second
 handset.



 Good luck,

 Barry







 Barry Lenoble

 leno...@optonline.net

 Deep Blue C, C 110

 Mt. Sinai, NY

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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

It might be longer than you think, as NMEA2k certification is a long and 
expensive process for the manufacturers… S-H may not want to mess with it.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
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> On Jan 8, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm guessing SH won't be long offering NMEA 2000 units.
> 
> Dennis C.

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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

I hear what you are saying, Fred. And I have to agree.

 

Imzadi has a fixed mount VHF at the helm and also a separate fixed mount at the 
nav station. Each is connected to a GPS (the one at the helm is the Garmin 
chartplotter), and each has a dedicated antenna.

 

While I like the redundancy, the real reasons I have 2 fixed mount VHFs are: 

1) a handheld only has a range of a couple of miles on a good day, and 

2) around 50 years of boating experience has led me to the conviction that a 
handheld radio is a holder for dead batteries.

 

For not much more than the cost of the $139 RAM mike you could install a fairly 
good SH VHF radio and a dedicated antenna. And neither would ever fall 
overboard.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 12:38 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

 

First, has anyone ever lost overboard something that wasn’t firmly attached to 
the boat?  And secondly, has anyone gone to use a piece of rechargeable 
battery-powered electronics, only to find that the battery was dead?  Neither 
of these scenarios apply to a hard-wired remote mic like the S-H or the Icom.

 

 

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Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Barry Lenoble via CnC-List]

Hey,

 

I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD radios.
Nice gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.

 

My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad
because NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don't have any other
electronics, and don't plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then
don't worry about it and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you
think you might want to install a chartplotter, and display the AIS
information on the plotter screen, and / or you plan on interfacing a
plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or ANYTHING else, I strongly
recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface. 

 

With NMEA 2000 you don't have to worry about connecting the little tiny
wires together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the
listener. You just plug the cable in and it works. 

 

Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I think
icom does too

 

The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless and
you can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn't support the second
handset. 

 

Good luck,

Barry

 

 

 

Barry Lenoble

leno...@optonline.net  

Deep Blue C, C 110

Mt. Sinai, NY

 

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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

That only holds true if you have a NMEA 2000 plotter. My plotter and computer 
are both 0183, so a 2000 radio would do nothing for me.
Also note that the AIS integrated radio is redundant if you have or are going 
to get AIS transmitting gear.
Joe
Coquina

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Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 9:21 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Barry Lenoble
Subject: Stus-List VHF / AIS

Hey,

I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD radios. Nice 
gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.

My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad because 
NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don't have any other electronics, 
and don't plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then don't worry about it 
and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you think you might want to 
install a chartplotter, and display the AIS information on the plotter screen, 
and / or you plan on interfacing a plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or 
ANYTHING else, I strongly recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface.

With NMEA 2000 you don't have to worry about connecting the little tiny wires 
together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the listener. 
You just plug the cable in and it works.

Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I think 
icom does too

The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless and you 
can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn't support the second handset.

Good luck,
Barry



Barry Lenoble
leno...@optonline.net<mailto:leno...@optonline.net>
Deep Blue C, C 110
Mt. Sinai, NY

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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Thanks, Joel.  Exactly what I needed,
Gary

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> http://www.panbo.com/archives/2014/07/simrad_rs35_vhf_hs35_wireless_handset_testing_pretty_well.html
>
> Joel
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks amazing
>> for the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two wireless
>> remote mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote mike is
>> $139.99.  The comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike and
>> cable is $274.98.  So, $469.98 vs. $674.97.
>>
>> Gary
>> S/V High Maintenance
>> '90 C 37+
>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>>
>> ~~~_/)~~
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD
>>> radios. Nice gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad
>>> because NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don’t have any other
>>> electronics, and don’t plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then
>>> don’t worry about it and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you
>>> think you might want to install a chartplotter, and display the AIS
>>> information on the plotter screen, and / or you plan on interfacing a
>>> plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or ANYTHING else, I strongly
>>> recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny
>>> wires together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the
>>> listener. You just plug the cable in and it works.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I
>>> think icom does too
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless
>>> and you can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second
>>> handset.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Barry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Barry Lenoble
>>>
>>> leno...@optonline.net
>>>
>>> Deep Blue C, C 110
>>>
>>> Mt. Sinai, NY
>>>
>>>
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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Frederick G Street via CnC-List]

That’s supposed to be a pretty nice radio; but I have an issue with the whole 
wireless remote mic thing.

First, has anyone ever lost overboard something that wasn’t firmly attached to 
the boat?  And secondly, has anyone gone to use a piece of rechargeable 
battery-powered electronics, only to find that the battery was dead?  Neither 
of these scenarios apply to a hard-wired remote mic like the S-H or the Icom.

Otherwise, I’d agree that the Simard was a great option.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks amazing for 
> the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two wireless remote 
> mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote mike is $139.99.  
> The comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike and cable is 
> $274.98.  So, $469.98 vs. $674.97.
> 
> Gary
> S/V High Maintenance
> '90 C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
> 
> ~~~_/)~~
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List 
> > wrote:
> Hey,
> 
>  
> 
> I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD radios. 
> Nice gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.
> 
>  
> 
> My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad because 
> NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don’t have any other 
> electronics, and don’t plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then don’t 
> worry about it and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you think you 
> might want to install a chartplotter, and display the AIS information on the 
> plotter screen, and / or you plan on interfacing a plotter to an autopilot, 
> wind instrument, or ANYTHING else, I strongly recommend you buy a VHF that 
> has NMEA 2000 interface.
> 
>  
> 
> With NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny wires 
> together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the listener. 
> You just plug the cable in and it works.
> 
>  
> 
> Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I think 
> icom does too
> 
>  
> 
> The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless and 
> you can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second 
> handset.
> 
>  
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Barry
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Barry Lenoble
> 
> leno...@optonline.net 
> Deep Blue C, C 110
> 
> Mt. Sinai, NY
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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

http://www.panbo.com/archives/2014/07/simrad_rs35_vhf_hs35_wireless_handset_testing_pretty_well.html

Joel

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks amazing
> for the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two wireless
> remote mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote mike is
> $139.99.  The comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike and
> cable is $274.98.  So, $469.98 vs. $674.97.
>
> Gary
> S/V High Maintenance
> '90 C 37+
> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>
> ~~~_/)~~
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>>
>>
>> I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD radios.
>> Nice gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad
>> because NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don’t have any other
>> electronics, and don’t plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then
>> don’t worry about it and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you
>> think you might want to install a chartplotter, and display the AIS
>> information on the plotter screen, and / or you plan on interfacing a
>> plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or ANYTHING else, I strongly
>> recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface.
>>
>>
>>
>> With NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny
>> wires together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the
>> listener. You just plug the cable in and it works.
>>
>>
>>
>> Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I
>> think icom does too
>>
>>
>>
>> The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless
>> and you can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second
>> handset.
>>
>>
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Barry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Barry Lenoble
>>
>> leno...@optonline.net
>>
>> Deep Blue C, C 110
>>
>> Mt. Sinai, NY
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

[Gary Russell via CnC-List]

Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks amazing
for the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two wireless
remote mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote mike is
$139.99.  The comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike and
cable is $274.98.  So, $469.98 vs. $674.97.

Gary
S/V High Maintenance
'90 C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

~~~_/)~~


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hey,
>
>
>
> I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD radios.
> Nice gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.
>
>
>
> My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad
> because NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don’t have any other
> electronics, and don’t plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then
> don’t worry about it and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you
> think you might want to install a chartplotter, and display the AIS
> information on the plotter screen, and / or you plan on interfacing a
> plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or ANYTHING else, I strongly
> recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface.
>
>
>
> With NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny
> wires together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the
> listener. You just plug the cable in and it works.
>
>
>
> Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I
> think icom does too
>
>
>
> The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless and
> you can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second
> handset.
>
>
>
> Good luck,
>
> Barry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Barry Lenoble
>
> leno...@optonline.net
>
> Deep Blue C, C 110
>
> Mt. Sinai, NY
>
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Re: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

[Curtis]

. The AIS system uses your information to determine possible
 collisions with other vessels based on the information it gets from AIS
 transceivers in the vicinity, and displays a graphic showing the traffic
 around you. You still need a chart plotter for depth information and to see
 obstructions, hazards, etc.



 The GPS position information appears on the display of my radio, so I
 presume it will for you, but it doesn't replace the plotter for navigation.
 Though I suppose you could take the position off the radio display and plot
 it onto a paper chart



 One other thing. I know you plan to sail offshore, so you should get a
 ship station license from the FCC and get your MMSI number from them as
 part of the package. You can get an MMSI number from Boat/US, and if the
 USCG gets a distress call from your radio they can look into the Boat/US
 MMSI database to see who you are and get particulars about you and your
 boat. But the Boat/US MMSI numbers are not shared with the international
 SARSAT people. So your Boat/US issued MMSI number will be meaningless to
 anyone outside the US. Only an MMSI number issued by the FCC will be
 recognized if you are offshore - but then you are supposed to have a ship
 station license if you use your VHF, radar, SSB, etc. when you are in
 international waters anyway.





 Rick Brass

 Washington, NC





 *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *
 Curtis
 *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2014 6:37 PM
 *To:* CnC-List@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200



 I have ordered a new radio today.  MATRIX AIS/GPS *GX2200*



 *The reason was to have a stand alone GPS radio in case of
 equipment failure.  Has anybody installed one? Is there any drawbacks? I
 was going to hook it to the Garmin 50S so I could see comm traffic at the
 helm. I would only use it as an Aid to Navigation I want to start my off
 shore training this spring with as much help as I can afford.*

 *I will love to have a radar but that will come later. So if you
 are familiar with this type of set up I would love to here your pros and
 con's.*

 *Thanks,*


 *LT *



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Re: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

[Rick Brass]

Curtis;

 

Reading the section in the radio manual about outputting the AIS display
information is certainly the right thing to do. And your Garmin 50s plotter
is newer than my 541a, so you will need to read that manual also. The two
manuals will certainly explain the process of connecting the two devices.

 

I would assume the two devices are probably similar to my 541 and GX2150. My
radio has a single input for the GPS information (it requires a separate
GPS) which can be either NEMA183 or NEMA 2000. There is one output
connection for the AIS display information. The output BAUD rate is
something like 18000, which is much higher than the NEMA183. I presume your
radio will not have a GPS input connection because the GPS is built into the
radio.

 

My 541 plotter has both a NEMA2000 and (2) NEMA183 connections. The
instructions for connecting the AIS to the GPS display call for connecting
the AIS output (which is a single wire) to a single wire on the 2nd NEMA183
port, and then reconfiguring the port to accept the AIS input (it's a choice
in the setup screen of the 541). The AIS display shows the range rings
around my location and the positions of nearby ships, with warnings about
possible collisions, superimposed on the normal GPS chart display. 

 

BTW, have you thought about buying a Standard Horizon RAM3 mike to go with
the radio? You will want to have the ability to use VHF radio from the helm
to contact bridges, marinas, other boats, etc. The RAM mike will put access
to the fixed VHF radio out at the helm, which gives you a lot more range and
better reliability than using a hand held VHF, and it will also show all of
the information that is on the screen of the GX2200 out at the helm. You
will be able to see the AIS display or all the information on the radio
display while steering the boat. Your wife will be able to make a distress
call while she steers the boat back to pick you up, if she loses you to
Neptune. And you would not have to connect the radio to the 50s unless you
wanted to see a larger AIS display at the helm.

 

One other thing I like about the GX2150/GX2200 radios is the built in
loudhailer and fog warning signals. One of my future projects will be to put
a speaker on the boat so I can use the loudhailer function. And after you
put your boat information into the radio, if you turn on the fog signal
function it automatically puts out the correct sound signal for the size and
type of boat you have at the correct intervals using the loudhailer
function, which is pretty cool and useful if you travel north in your
cruises.

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Curtis
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:38 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

 

Your right on the redundancy thought. Remember it is not a plotter with
includes chart data. It provides GPS position course and speed input to the
AIS system in the radio 

 

Its own GPS gives me a display on the face of the radio of my COG, SOG,
Heading LON, LAT, and speed all on the radio. If I have Failure at the helm
with the Garmin and my hand held is not close I will have the radio for pert
information. The other thing I like,  If I need help I'm at the radio inside
the cabin on the radio I can not see the GPS at the helm at the same time.
If my wife has lost lost me to Neptune or old age she now can stand at the
radio and have all the information in front of her.

 

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Re: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

[Stevan Plavsa]

I was considering the SH GX2200 with a RAM mic and now I'm sold.
I don't have a chartplotter but I'm going to be either using a laptop with
OpenCPN or I'll hack together some low power on-board CPU using an Intel
NUC or some such thing. I already have the laptop I'de just rather not have
one on board preferring something built in. Anyway, having the AIS info
would be super cool though not sure how useful on Lake Ontario. We do plan
to do overnight sails and there are freighters and things so more info is
always better. My current VHF doesn't have GPS and it'll cost me to hook
one up ... if I'm already outlaying some cash I might as well just get'er
done.

Steve
www.sv-suhana.com
Toronto



On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Curtis;



 Reading the section in the radio manual about outputting the AIS display
 information is certainly the right thing to do. And your Garmin 50s plotter
 is newer than my 541a, so you will need to read that manual also. The two
 manuals will certainly explain the process of connecting the two devices.



 I would assume the two devices are probably similar to my 541 and GX2150.
 My radio has a single input for the GPS information (it requires a separate
 GPS) which can be either NEMA183 or NEMA 2000. There is one output
 connection for the AIS display information. The output BAUD rate is
 something like 18000, which is much higher than the NEMA183. I presume your
 radio will not have a GPS input connection because the GPS is built into
 the radio.



 My 541 plotter has both a NEMA2000 and (2) NEMA183 connections. The
 instructions for connecting the AIS to the GPS display call for connecting
 the AIS output (which is a single wire) to a single wire on the 2ndNEMA183 
 port, and then reconfiguring the port to accept the AIS input (it's
 a choice in the setup screen of the 541). The AIS display shows the range
 rings around my location and the positions of nearby ships, with warnings
 about possible collisions, superimposed on the normal GPS chart display.



 BTW, have you thought about buying a Standard Horizon RAM3 mike to go with
 the radio? You will want to have the ability to use VHF radio from the helm
 to contact bridges, marinas, other boats, etc. The RAM mike will put access
 to the fixed VHF radio out at the helm, which gives you a lot more range
 and better reliability than using a hand held VHF, and it will also show
 all of the information that is on the screen of the GX2200 out at the helm.
 You will be able to see the AIS display or all the information on the radio
 display while steering the boat. Your wife will be able to make a distress
 call while she steers the boat back to pick you up, if she loses you to
 Neptune. And you would not have to connect the radio to the 50s unless you
 wanted to see a larger AIS display at the helm.



 One other thing I like about the GX2150/GX2200 radios is the built in
 loudhailer and fog warning signals. One of my future projects will be to
 put a speaker on the boat so I can use the loudhailer function. And after
 you put your boat information into the radio, if you turn on the fog signal
 function it automatically puts out the correct sound signal for the size
 and type of boat you have at the correct intervals using the loudhailer
 function, which is pretty cool and useful if you travel north in your
 cruises.





 Rick Brass

 Washington, NC









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 Curtis
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:38 AM
 *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200



 Your right on the redundancy thought. Remember it is not a plotter with
 includes chart data. It provides GPS position course and speed input to the
 AIS system in the radio



 Its own GPS gives me a display on the face of the radio of my COG, SOG,
 Heading LON, LAT, and speed all on the radio. If I have Failure at the helm
 with the Garmin and my hand held is not close I will have the radio for
 pert information. The other thing I like,  If I need help I'm at the radio
 inside the cabin on the radio I can not see the GPS at the helm at the same
 time.  If my wife has lost lost me to Neptune or old age she now
 can stand at the radio and have all the information in front of her.



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Re: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

[Curtis]

Yes I love the the built in loudhailer and fog warning
signal capability and it will be a add on project along with the mic at the
helm.  I have to do a little at the time.
I don't know if you know the story of my boat? I found her wasting away on
a mooring ball in the river with no one looking at her for over 5 years.  I
have done a great deal of work to her and have spent a lot of money getting
her back up to shape.
New running rigging, New engine, New Bimini top's. New GPS and now a new
radio. But if not for the money I would have purchased the mic as well. It
will have to be summer.
They will speak to one another. my Garmin Echo50s will speak 0183 and so
will the radio. So from what i read it will be a good fit.
Thanks



On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Curtis;



 Reading the section in the radio manual about outputting the AIS display
 information is certainly the right thing to do. And your Garmin 50s plotter
 is newer than my 541a, so you will need to read that manual also. The two
 manuals will certainly explain the process of connecting the two devices.



 I would assume the two devices are probably similar to my 541 and GX2150.
 My radio has a single input for the GPS information (it requires a separate
 GPS) which can be either NEMA183 or NEMA 2000. There is one output
 connection for the AIS display information. The output BAUD rate is
 something like 18000, which is much higher than the NEMA183. I presume your
 radio will not have a GPS input connection because the GPS is built into
 the radio.



 My 541 plotter has both a NEMA2000 and (2) NEMA183 connections. The
 instructions for connecting the AIS to the GPS display call for connecting
 the AIS output (which is a single wire) to a single wire on the 2ndNEMA183 
 port, and then reconfiguring the port to accept the AIS input (it's
 a choice in the setup screen of the 541). The AIS display shows the range
 rings around my location and the positions of nearby ships, with warnings
 about possible collisions, superimposed on the normal GPS chart display.



 BTW, have you thought about buying a Standard Horizon RAM3 mike to go with
 the radio? You will want to have the ability to use VHF radio from the helm
 to contact bridges, marinas, other boats, etc. The RAM mike will put access
 to the fixed VHF radio out at the helm, which gives you a lot more range
 and better reliability than using a hand held VHF, and it will also show
 all of the information that is on the screen of the GX2200 out at the helm.
 You will be able to see the AIS display or all the information on the radio
 display while steering the boat. Your wife will be able to make a distress
 call while she steers the boat back to pick you up, if she loses you to
 Neptune. And you would not have to connect the radio to the 50s unless you
 wanted to see a larger AIS display at the helm.



 One other thing I like about the GX2150/GX2200 radios is the built in
 loudhailer and fog warning signals. One of my future projects will be to
 put a speaker on the boat so I can use the loudhailer function. And after
 you put your boat information into the radio, if you turn on the fog signal
 function it automatically puts out the correct sound signal for the size
 and type of boat you have at the correct intervals using the loudhailer
 function, which is pretty cool and useful if you travel north in your
 cruises.





 Rick Brass

 Washington, NC









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 Curtis
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 Your right on the redundancy thought. Remember it is not a plotter with
 includes chart data. It provides GPS position course and speed input to the
 AIS system in the radio



 Its own GPS gives me a display on the face of the radio of my COG, SOG,
 Heading LON, LAT, and speed all on the radio. If I have Failure at the helm
 with the Garmin and my hand held is not close I will have the radio for
 pert information. The other thing I like,  If I need help I'm at the radio
 inside the cabin on the radio I can not see the GPS at the helm at the same
 time.  If my wife has lost lost me to Neptune or old age she now
 can stand at the radio and have all the information in front of her.



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Re: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

[Rick Brass]

Curtis;

 

The Garmin 50s and the SH radio will not need to be connected using NEMA
183. The radio already has the GPS built into it, and does not use a
separate GPS input. 

 

The connection from the AIS to the 50s will only be the AIS output
information from the radio. That information is transmitted over a single
wire, which gets connected to one of the wires in the 2nd NEMA 183 port on
the plotter. The output from the AIS is at something like 18,600 Baud -
which is way higher than 183, and I think higher than NEMA2000. The port on
the 50s will get configured for the AIS information by a selection in the
setup menu for the plotter. You won't need to make either a NEMA 183 or a
NEMA 2000 connection.

 

Rick

 

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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

 

Yes I love the the built in loudhailer and fog warning signal capability and
it will be a add on project along with the mic at the helm.  I have to do a
little at the time. 

I don't know if you know the story of my boat? I found her wasting away on a
mooring ball in the river with no one looking at her for over 5 years.  I
have done a great deal of work to her and have spent a lot of money getting
her back up to shape. 

New running rigging, New engine, New Bimini top's. New GPS and now a new
radio. But if not for the money I would have purchased the mic as well. It
will have to be summer. 

They will speak to one another. my Garmin Echo50s will speak 0183 and so
will the radio. So from what i read it will be a good fit.

Thanks 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

[Frederick G Street]

Rick  Curt:  AIS info on NMEA0183 goes at 38,400 baud, which is usually the 
highest setting for NMEA0183.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Feb 18, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Curtis;
  
 The Garmin 50s and the SH radio will not need to be connected using NEMA 183. 
 The radio already has the GPS built into it, and does not use a separate GPS 
 input.
  
 The connection from the AIS to the 50s will only be the AIS output 
 information from the radio. That information is transmitted over a single 
 wire, which gets connected to one of the wires in the 2nd NEMA 183 port on 
 the plotter. The output from the AIS is at something like 18,600 Baud – which 
 is way higher than 183, and I think higher than NEMA2000. The port on the 50s 
 will get configured for the AIS information by a selection in the setup menu 
 for the plotter. You won’t need to make either a NEMA 183 or a NEMA 2000 
 connection.
  
 Rick

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Re: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

[Rick Brass]

I stand corrected, Fred.

 

When the Garmin rep had me change the setting for the NEMA port 2 from NEMA
to AIS Input, I thought it was due to the baud rate. Now I'm guessing it is
about the format of the data being received. And I also thought there was
some significance to the fact that the AIS is only connected to one of the
wires on the 541's second NEMA183 port.

 

Rick 

 

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G Street
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:31 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

 

Rick  Curt:  AIS info on NMEA0183 goes at 38,400 baud, which is usually the
highest setting for NMEA0183.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

On Feb 18, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote:





Curtis;

 

The Garmin 50s and the SH radio will not need to be connected using NEMA
183. The radio already has the GPS built into it, and does not use a
separate GPS input.

 

The connection from the AIS to the 50s will only be the AIS output
information from the radio. That information is transmitted over a single
wire, which gets connected to one of the wires in the 2nd NEMA 183 port on
the plotter. The output from the AIS is at something like 18,600 Baud -
which is way higher than 183, and I think higher than NEMA2000. The port on
the 50s will get configured for the AIS information by a selection in the
setup menu for the plotter. You won't need to make either a NEMA 183 or a
NEMA 2000 connection.

 

Rick

 

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Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

[Curtis]

I have ordered a new radio today.  MATRIX AIS/GPS GX2200

*The reason was to have a stand alone GPS radio in case of
equipment failure.  Has anybody installed one? Is there any drawbacks? I
was going to hook it to the Garmin 50S so I could see comm traffic at the
helm. I would only use it as an Aid to Navigation I want to start my off
shore training this spring with as much help as I can afford.*
*I will love to have a radar but that will come later. So if you
are familiar with this type of set up I would love to here your pros and
con's.*
*Thanks,*

*LT *

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Re: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

[Joel Aronson]

Curtis
Is it Nmea 2000? Is your plotter?  Be sure they are compatible. The 2150
was nmea 183.
Remember this is a receiver only. If you want to broadcast your position
you need a transceiver.

Joel

On Monday, February 17, 2014, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have ordered a new radio today.  MATRIX AIS/GPS GX2200

 *The reason was to have a stand alone GPS radio in case of
 equipment failure.  Has anybody installed one? Is there any drawbacks? I
 was going to hook it to the Garmin 50S so I could see comm traffic at the
 helm. I would only use it as an Aid to Navigation I want to start my off
 shore training this spring with as much help as I can afford.*
 *I will love to have a radar but that will come later. So if you
 are familiar with this type of set up I would love to here your pros and
 con's.*
 *Thanks,*

 *LT  *

 --
 All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty
 recesses of their minds wake up in the day to find it was vanity, but the
 dreamers of the day are dangerous men,for they may act their dreams with
 open eyes, to make it possible.

 T. E. Lawrence

 .





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Re: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

[Rick Brass]

Curtis;

 

When I went to Bermuda on a friend's boat a couple of years ago I was
greatly impressed by the benefit of his AIS receiver when offshore. It was
amazing how close a ship could pass and not be visible, and the AIS receiver
would show other vessels (commercial ships over 300 tons and some larger
recreational vessels with an AIS transceiver - you still need to keep a
lookout for traffic because most of the boats you will encounter will not
have AIS) many miles distant - and sound an alarm if there was a chance that
the other vessel would get close. I said to myself Self, I gotta get one of
these.

 

Now an AIS transceiver doesn't seem like a good investment to me. Big ships
are not going to get out of the way of a 40 foot sailboat, so you basically
need to be aware of them and get out of THEIR way. So I started looking at
options for AIS receivers.

 

I ended up putting a SH Matrix GX2150 in the cockpit of my boat. 

 

I have a prejudice against handheld radios (except in the dinghy or the
ditch bag). The realistic range for a hand held is 2 miles or less, and in
my experience a handheld VHF is a holder for dead batteries. So I have two
fixed mount VHF radios with redundant antennas on the boat. One is a
Raymarine DSC radio with dedicated GPS connected that is at the nav station.
The second is the SH GX2150 at the helm, connected to the Garmin 541s
plotter on the pedestal.

 

I initially only connected the NEMA 183 output from the GPS to the input on
the radio, which is a pretty easy thing to do. But I found that the AIS
display on the radio is pretty small for my old eyes to see, so I have now
connected the output from the AIS onto one of the inputs for the Garmin
plotter. It is only a one wire connection from the radio to the plotter. I
also had to configure the input to the plotter for the AIS; apparently the
output from the AIS to the display is a very high baud rate. The
instructions for wiring were in both the Standard Horizon and Garmin
instructions, as were the instructions for configuring the input for the AIS
to display on the plotter. I was a bit iffy about the configuration
procedure, so I called Garmin and their tech rep talked me through the
process. Now my AIS display is overlaid on the 5 chart plotter display in
front of the wheel.

 

I've been very pleased by the performance of the radio and the ease of
installation/connection. There are not a lot of AIS targets here in North
Carolina. I did see quite a few when in the Chesapeake last summer, though
none were threateningly close. But then I was not offshore in the dark off
Florida, where there is a LOT of traffic to worry about.

 

Your installation should be easier because there is a GPS built into the
radio, so you only need to wire the output from the AIS to the input for
your plotter. 

 

You seem to be saying that you intend the radio to be a redundant GPS for
the boat. Remember it is not a plotter with includes chart data. It provides
GPS position course and speed input to the AIS system in the radio. The AIS
system uses your information to determine possible collisions with other
vessels based on the information it gets from AIS transceivers in the
vicinity, and displays a graphic showing the traffic around you. You still
need a chart plotter for depth information and to see obstructions, hazards,
etc.

 

The GPS position information appears on the display of my radio, so I
presume it will for you, but it doesn't replace the plotter for navigation.
Though I suppose you could take the position off the radio display and plot
it onto a paper chart

 

One other thing. I know you plan to sail offshore, so you should get a ship
station license from the FCC and get your MMSI number from them as part of
the package. You can get an MMSI number from Boat/US, and if the USCG gets a
distress call from your radio they can look into the Boat/US MMSI database
to see who you are and get particulars about you and your boat. But the
Boat/US MMSI numbers are not shared with the international SARSAT people. So
your Boat/US issued MMSI number will be meaningless to anyone outside the
US. Only an MMSI number issued by the FCC will be recognized if you are
offshore - but then you are supposed to have a ship station license if you
use your VHF, radar, SSB, etc. when you are in international waters anyway.

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

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Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:37 PM
To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List VHF AIS Standard Horizon 2200

 

I have ordered a new radio today.  MATRIX AIS/GPS GX2200

 

The reason was to have a stand alone GPS radio in case of equipment failure.
Has anybody installed one? Is there any drawbacks? I was going to hook it to
the Garmin 50S so I could see comm traffic at the helm. I would only use it
as an Aid to Navigation I want to start my off shore training this spring
with as much help as I can afford.

I