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2021-02-18 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
, Mike; Dave S Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck another trick to removing core is using a ground down Allen key chucked in a drill, working from above. http://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2019/07/deck-fill-core-removal-and-reinforcement.html?m=1 To keep the epoxy in place make

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2021-02-17 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
> > TAPE FULLY COVERS THE HOLE AND IS ON FIRMLY (or you will have a big > > > > mess on your hands). You’ll lose a little volume after the pour as the > > > > epoxy works its way into the wood core. I usually go back and top it > > > > off. If you lose

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2021-02-17 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
ia CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: February 16, 2021 7:26 PM To: Matthew via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Ronald B. Frerker mailto:rbfrer...@yahoo.com>> Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck Do you do anything special to keep the epoxy in plac

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2021-02-17 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
nd pour straight West >> System. Use the slow hardener, and MAKE SURE THE TAPE FULLY COVERS THE >> HOLE AND IS ON FIRMLY (or you will have a big mess on your hands). You’ll >> lose a little volume after the pour as the epoxy works its way into the >> wood core. I usually go

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2021-02-17 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
he tape. If there is no leak at the tape, some > internal communication is going on. > > > > Good luck. > > > > Matt > > > > *From:* Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2021 8:16 AM > *To:* 'Stus-List' > *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike &g

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2021-02-17 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
is no leak at the tape, some internal > communication is going on. > > > > Good luck. > > > > Matt > > > > From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 8:16 AM > To: 'Stus-List' > Cc: Hoyt, Mike &

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2021-02-17 Thread Matthew via CnC-List
CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 8:16 AM To: 'Stus-List' Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck Put tape on the underside to cover the holes before filling with thickened epoxy. Then once cured drill appropriate sized hole in the epoxy for the fastener

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2021-02-17 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
gt; Mike Hoyt > Persistence > Halifax, NS > > From: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List > Sent: February 16, 2021 7:26 PM > To: Matthew via CnC-List > Cc: Ronald B. Frerker > Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck > > Do you do anything special to keep the epo

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2021-02-17 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
: Ronald B. Frerker Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck Do you do anything special to keep the epoxy in place until you can put some tape under the glob? Ron Wild Cheri C 30-1 STL On Sunday, January 24, 2021, 01:31:10 PM CST, Matthew via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>

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2021-02-16 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
> Martin DeYoung > > Calypso > > 1971 C 43 > > Now Seattle > > Soon Port Ludlow (after 2 months in the Port Townsend yard for paint) > > > > From: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Sent: Tue

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2021-02-16 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
:26 PM To: Matthew via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Ronald B. Frerker<mailto:rbfrer...@yahoo.com> Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck Do you do anything special to keep the epoxy in place until you can put some tape under the glob? Ron Wild Cheri C 30-1

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2021-02-16 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
Do you do anything special to keep the epoxy in place until you can put some tape under the glob?RonWild CheriC 30-1STL On Sunday, January 24, 2021, 01:31:10 PM CST, Matthew via CnC-List wrote: Regarding Dennis’ comment about overbored holes being hidden by the track, a trick I

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2021-01-24 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
I got tracks on my 35 MKII. I will send a pic when i uncover in sting. If you remind e On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 12:47 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Our 35-2 has track, but it is too short for either the 95 jib or the genoa > (which is currently on toerail), so I

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2021-01-24 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
the hole on the > deck surface stays the same size. In addition, you know precisely where to > place the deck fitting and drill the new hole. > > > > *From:* Dennis C. via CnC-List > *Sent:* Sunday, January 24, 2021 12:44 PM > *To:* Stus-List > *Cc:* Dennis C. > *Subjec

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2021-01-24 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
Dwight, I was going ask the same question as Chuck.  My 35 Mk2 is old school, no roller furler racing genoas, but does have a cruising roller furl #2. All racing genoas are deck sweepers and are lead inboard of the lifelines which requires on each tack that the foredeck "skirts" the sails. I

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2021-01-24 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
Shawn, I answered Bob's email and added a drawing of my deck layout - of course it was too big and got rejected. Below are the two emails that were sent directly to Bob and a Dropbox url with the files (first time for dropbox) Let me know if you can't view them.  I also revised that the boat

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2021-01-24 Thread Nathan Post via CnC-List
It is also possible with a balsa core to pick out the core with a bent wire or other steel curved hook going into the side wall of the hole so you don’t have to over drill from either side. You have to make sure you get it all so the epoxy will seal the core. Hard to do with a small <1/4”

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2021-01-24 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Hi Dwight, Do you ever trim the genoa so that it is entirely inside the lifelines? Chuck S > On 01/24/2021 7:38 AM dwight veinot via CnC-List > wrote: > > > The beam of the Mk I is the same as the beam of my Mk II at 10.5 feet. A > high cut clew will help but the sheets

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2021-01-24 Thread Matthew via CnC-List
where to place the deck fitting and drill the new hole. From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 12:44 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck IMHO, I think there are three tricks to mounting genoa or jib tracks. 1. Cut away

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2021-01-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
IMHO, I think there are three tricks to mounting genoa or jib tracks. 1. Cut away the headliner so the backing plate is against the underside of the deck. I've seen too many folks simply crush the headliner against the underdecking. 2. Make sure the backing plate(s) is adequately thick and

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2021-01-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Bob, If you install the inner tracks, I suggest you make up an "outer sheet" (or Barber hauler or whatever folks want to call it). Touche's is a length of line with a snap shackle on the end. I rig it to the toe rail with a snatch block just a bit forward of where the primary sheet crosses over

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2021-01-24 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
- From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List To: Stus-List Cc: Bob Mann ; CHARLES SCHEAFFER Sent: Sat, Jan 23, 2021 11:33 pm Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck I imagine the toerail block isn't giving you the sheeting angle you want and that's why you want to add a track      I'd

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2021-01-24 Thread Bob Mann via CnC-List
The measurements I listed were provided by a sailmaker. He's been in the business for decades. I talked with him several years ago about using rings and athwartship tracks, which is why those measurements were included. I never did include tracks, but now it has become more important. Bob

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2021-01-24 Thread Shawn Wright via CnC-List
Our 35-2 has track, but it is too short for either the 95 jib or the genoa (which is currently on toerail), so I am looking to add a longer track. I am curious how you arrived at the measurements? Based on the foot length of the sail? Were they done on paper, or with the actual sail on the boat?

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2021-01-24 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Tracks often lead to leaks. Rings sound like a good idea On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 12:33 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I imagine the toerail block isn't giving you the sheeting angle you want > and that's why you want to add a track > > I'd look into using

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2021-01-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Bob, I use that track for my 155% and 125% headsails. I use a small track by the shrouds for a 95%. I'll send you more pics off list. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 8:57 AM Bob Mann via CnC-List wrote: > I'm also curious what cabin interiors look like

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2021-01-24 Thread Bob Mann via CnC-List
I'm also curious what cabin interiors look like where all the track bolts have come through. If you have pictures, feel free to email me directly. Bob > On 01/23/2021 10:43 PM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List > wrote: > > > Before I switched to a furling 135% genoa, which I use

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2021-01-24 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Bob, You'll find that your cabinetry may limit where you can locate the tracks. Here's a pic of Touche's genoa track. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_sb5TfIENvselJxa3llT0xQZzA/view?usp=sharing Feel free to holler at me off list if you want. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On

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2021-01-24 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
The beam of the Mk I is the same as the beam of my Mk II at 10.5 feet. A high cut clew will help but the sheets will still chafe hard on the life lines under some points of sail. My boat has inboard genoa tracks but there is a limit on how close you can sail to apparent wind angle (point) and

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2021-01-23 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
I imagine the toerail block isn't giving you the sheeting angle you want and that's why you want to add a track I'd look into using Low Friction Rings and avoid adding tracks. They've gotten the strength up on the rings and race boats are using these instead of blocks on tracks. They

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2021-01-23 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
Before I switched to a furling 135% genoa, which I use for racing and cruising, I raced with a 105% genoa. My tracks are right up against the cabin, and run from just aft of the shrouds to just forward of the companionway. With the 105, I got a PHRF rating of nine seconds more than with a 155, and